Hello hello, I’m back. Sorry, was battling the grey hair into submission in the bathroom so am now youthful looking (albeit with a runny nose and purple ears).

Now, fish cakes. Pop and egg white in to bind it. And keep your chickpeas a little more chunky.

The flatbreads… Hmm. Lucky and Tokyo already know that I have discovered the farty smell seems to linger AFTER cooking. I tried an off cut and it tasted a bit farty/cauliflower like. But I will reserve judgment until I have made it into an open sandwich tomorrow! The wraps are lurking in the fridge for tonight..

Yoga? I once was asked to leave a Pilates lesson as my friend and I couldn’t control our giggles when a fellow participant accidentally passed wind during a move!! I did a bit of Body Balance too. That’s a cop out version of Pilates/ tai chi and yoga.

And guess what star sign I am (not that I really believe that stuff)…. LEO!!! Gotta be the centre of attention? Surely not!!

so countdown to tomorrows weigh in !!!!
end of week four and so far all i gained are you thelma and louise !!!!!!!!
fair trade tho for bread biscuits pasta potatoes !!! ( although not sure bout biscuit trade !!!)
a good old fry up for tea tonight no fritatta in sight !!!!!! may that word not be mentioned again !!!

that was quick how did you find that, looks quite high in carbs i would guess thats for about 1 slice what do you think

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3428948/I-thought-big-bend-Plus-size-yogi-battled-binge-eating-anxiety-reveals-twisting-body-complex-poses-helped-learn-love-again.html

I’ll be deactivating my Twitter while you’re away then Tokyo 😛 😉

I was wondering how to phrase that, would I have to be terribly politically correct???

I’ll be licking the screen Tokyo 😂😂😂😂😹

Should t matter in a good yoga class what size anyone is. There’s this lady, think she’s American, who is now a teacher and she is still bigger than typical yoga types but obviously gets loads out of it – should look her up with my not very helpful intro😹 She seems inspiring though. Not sure what complimentary description you’d have to put into google to find her though..😳

whilst i love this way of eating and appreciate its many health benefits i am not going to be strict forever and i am going to enjoy life !! so if that means eat the choc i jolly well enjoy it i shall !!!!
i may even taunt you with pics !!!!!

Ha ha ha Tokyo, well you ll be grand so, sounds like a plan👏👏👏😹 And no doubt you’ll be looking fab while doing it

Josie, this one?
Low GI Multiseed Bread

Typical Values per
100g
:
Energy
1206kJ/287kcal
Fat
8.5g
Of which saturates
1.0g
Carbohydrate
36.0g
Of which sugars
3.8g
Fibre
6.9g
Protein
13.2g
Salt
0.9g
Allergens:
For allergens, including cereals containing gluten, see ingredients in
bold
.
Useful Information:
Suitable for Vegetarians

I’d imagine it’ll take a lot less now to make you feel sick than before, Tokyo. Which is good 🙂 Being able to enjoy something without taking it to excess. Maybe one day I will be like that about wine… 😉

before all of this started i had bought low G I bread at Lidl but couldn’t find out what the carbs were so stopped eating it. Anyone got any ideas

I can’t tell, they’re Janey’s to spill the beans about 😉 Yes, I think it’s something I’m going to look into now, feeling a bit more confident about my body, still big but at least I won’t be waddling into there!

Looking at all these posts I am so glad we haven’t got passports and holiday in the UK or I would be in huuuuuuge trouble! Thankfully I only have Llangollen and Norwich to negotiate between now and September 😀 Thank God I’m not going to Devon this year, I need a bit more time and experience (and weightloss) under my belt before I could inflict that on me again. I think the closest I came to fruit and veg for the whole fortnight was the wine (grapes) and the clotted cream ice cream (blackcurrant). Oh, and the salad on my kebab. My word, I was awful.

I had to buy another 2 kilo yesterday Josie, because the ones I bought won’t make the chickpea wraps lol, they just stick to the frying pan, and it’s a really good non stick one. I had to throw about 6 of every ten I cooked.

i am afraid i shall be eating as much beguim choc as is physically possible to ram in my very large and loud gob and if i feel sick i shall blinking enjoy it !!!
by that time i shall hopefully be in many cinderella outfits !!! specially put away for hols !!!!
every night i get up middle of night now !!! to nip to the loo so this water just go straight thru !!!!!

bloody hell i have only got 1 kilo and was wondering the same, i can tell you it did nothing for the fishcakes

Josie I was on France in April and it was partly what prompted me to start this!! Felt sick and bloated and unhealthy after a week of cheese and bread and pain au chocolates (I’m clearly not made for bread I think) and wS determined to change! So it’s all over rated is what trying to say and you’ll be so much better off if you have to avoid or limit it, everything looks waaaaay better than it tastes anyway. Few glasses of red wine will be delicious with some nice cheese👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Sounds great Tokyo, by then you might even be able to afford a few chips and them get back onto it again, or a bit of chocolate, you’ll probably feel sick after so little anyway!!😂At least you’ll know what to do to get going again after holidays. Have to be able to live too. Ah holidays, wedding in Italy in September is mine, can’t wait. Focusing on floaty dresses every time I think of chocolate

so i am 5 weeks in and go on holiday to France on the 15th August, when i return i am due to have my bloods done so am definitely not able to eat the bread but can have a glass of red!!! Oh well

Ha ha yes it’s funny I know, even though some bit of me thinks it can’t mean anything, it’s weird how often my friends are all born Around the same few times of the year!

Oooo you’ll have to try yoga Lucky, it’s sooo great. Just mKe sure you get a nice relaxing class to start out with, and avoid ones where people are more concerned with their outfits.. Loads of good classes for free on you tube too, beginner ones too👏👏

I’m intrigued about the flat bread hee hee it’s not that it smells pretty bad before it’s cooked is it??? Broccoli stink 😹😹👏

I’ve got 4 kilos of bloody chickpea flour… how long is it going to take to use all that up???

Well, we’re definitely experiencing a Tokyo deficiency! Well done on resisting the goodies (or baddies, should I say) long may it last!

The liquid thing is doing me too. My midwife warned me, she warned me that if I didn’t do my pelvic floor exercises I would be like an 80 year old woman by the time I was 40. That’s how bloody lazy I was, I wouldn’t even do exercise that was clenching muscles. Everything I drink goes straight through me in the day, but I seem to be ok at night, oddly enough.

Ooooooooh that sounds lovely Tokyo! Well, you never know, you might not over-indulge either – your body might not like it any more! You might find that you’ve done so well that you don’t want to go completely off track? But if there’s one time you should treat yourself, it should be a holiday. I’m determined to stick to it while we camp though, the more situations I can get through eating this way, the more inclined I will be to stick to it. It’s going to take a lot of planning though, I have got a list… me and my bloody lists haha.

Josie, I hear you! I just can’t stop myself. If I didn’t buy another thing for another three months, I’m sure we wouldn’t starve. I need to stop. Must be a Taurus thing.

Hi BigP! Wow, great results on your weight loss! As an exercise addict, I have had a lot of experience with the BSD and working out and my experience is that I had to figure calories burned and eat at least fifty percent of the calories burned in addition to the 800 calories allowed. If I did not add in more calories I would hit a wall and just be starving/weak and unable to satisfy my hunger no matter what I ate. So I ate more on workout days — specifically protein and fat — and the results were perfect, I retained myscle, lost fat and really importantly lost most of the fat from my waist (10 inches overall). I really think it is important to supplement protein and fat for energy. I usually had extra steak or chicken and extra cheese — all very satisfying. I credit the workouts for my now skinny waist because they seemed to make the biggest difference in WHERE I lost weight. I always encourage people who are not losing at the waistline to do more hard cardio and weight lifting. Hope that is helpful! Huge congratulations on your success!
Julia

Nailed it!

Hi Izzy,
Wow – 3lbs to go for your next goal to be achieved. You can do this Izzy. You’re an inspiration to us. I love how you continue to take positive steps that improve your health and wellbeing.
I had problems posting yesterday, so thought I’d ‘jump on’ before other family members wake and use (our slow) internet.

i am also a Taurus, the reason i have used up everything is that i am fed up with buying loads of stuff that i don’t end up using

Good evening ladies !!!
good to see you cope without me although i personally think your lacking a bit of brenda and her cinderella moments !!!!
i have read girl on a train and i do remember the ending and i thought it was ………….( got you going then!!)
well today avoided tea and biscuits at work god i am getting good at this didnt realise the amount of crap we got !!!!
Weekly weigh in tomorrow so fingers crossed although mid week cheeky weigh in was good !! am struggling with fluid intake at work its a bit funny drinking it all then getting halfway thru an op and saying ” hang on i need the loo”!!!!!! so not quite drinking as much but then if i drink when i get in i am up at night !!! doh the traumas of a BSD er !!!!!
my end goal is that my eight weeks will be up 11 august i go on hols 10 th to antwerp the home of the best chocolate in the world !!! also frites and mayonaise ( not ordinary mayonaise the most lusicious mayo ever and on chips !!!)i shall be partaking of copious amounts so hopefully it wont kill me !!!

Complement me, not compliment me…

It makes for a bloody expensive birthday week though, especially when you add in my Dad on the 12th… lol

My four closest friends are all Scorpios! 4th, 5th, 7th and 10th November. I don’t know why but they just seem to compliment me. Wouldn’t say any were particularly evil though lol. Love Scorpios 🙂

The bread is more than green, Eps, it has a distinctive feature that I’ll let Janey fill you in about. It looked good though.

I think Yoga is on my 40 before 40 list too, I’ve always wanted to try it. Just want to point out that because I started my 40/40 list stupidly late, I’m allowing myself this year to do the things too 😉 Always last minute, me.

Maybe an egg Josie? Love fish cakes, yum. And roasted veg, brill.

Hee hee Stubborn lucky, Taurus are determined, sounds better than stubborn. A talent I’d say.
I’m Scorpio so other than being supposedly evil, I’m all about the extremes apparently!! Currently extreme healthy hopefully 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😹

Thanks again – quel surprise it’s SunnyB!

Yeah I know about the cheap kits and you can even get free kits from testing suppliers online. I might think about getting one.

Once again muchos gracias for you help and encouragement

Ha ha girl on a train reading club👍👏🏻

No spoilers as I can’t really remember the end… Actually I can…will say nothing! 😝

Good one on the flat bread Janey! Hope it’s deliciously green🐛👏👏

Was just at a yoga class that felt like Bootcamp, ah well it’s worth it for relaxed feeling after it. Why don’t I get up early and do some myself every morning?? I don’t know. So hard to do things that I know are good and so easy to do things I know are bad. 🤓 (The nerd face is for philosophising) 😹

Ooooh, I don’t know Josie. Usually you’d mash with potato but, I haven’t a clue what would bind it and taste nice. Janey? Any ideas?

Aren’t you good, all prepared? I’ve got as far as knowing what I’m eating, but I’m cooking day by day still. Life was a bit simpler when I was eating the old way, but I am enjoying the learning new things, eating new things, stretching myself and not giving up on certain foods. I am a Taurus, we’re stubborn… hehe.

fishcake disaster how do you make it all stick together tried with the chickpea flour but it was no good

grated the beetroot blitzed the chickpeas but will put it together tomorrow
roasted a load of peppers and courgette and aubergine to make a veg lasagne at some point near the end of the week
hopefully will be ahead of myself for a while

MM did devise this diet to ‘reverse diabetes’ based on the work performed by Prof Roy Taylor in Newcastle University – it was meant to be an 8 week diet – not a way of life and many of Roy Taylor’s former guinea pig people are still non-diabetic tow and three years after being on the calorie controlled 8 week diet.

The idea of the diet is to remove visceral fat from your internal organs to allow insulin to function properly again in the body, and if you lose other fat as a bonus – happy days.

That is why I am on the diet, for 8 weeks – not for the rest of my life.

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I guess yogurt isn’t to everyone’s taste. How about a little cream with some berries to help push up the fat content instead? Bit worried about weight-in on Monday, as we are away for the w/e from tomorrow. Will be armed with ketosticks and trying my hardest to stick with the programme though.

We’ll catch up each with a progress in a few days.

Ah – I understand the ketosticks now SunnyB – good idea you had to use them. You are doing so well towards your target – hope Monday morning’s weigh in puts a smile on your face.

Don’t know about the full fat yoghurt, I have 3 no-fat still to eat and whilst I managed to eat the first yoghurt, I wasn’t singing its praised that highly, plus I do hate wasting food. Still trucking on though, I do find planning ahead really helps regarding meals.

Waiting for good news of your progress.

😎

Ooooooooooh look at you mixing it up with your flours! 😉

No spoilers from me, I’m still in a state of WTF, to be honest 😀

Here I am! As Lucky is aware, I’m in experimental mode again tonight.. And have just made broccoli flatbread! It’s currently cooling so will report back. I substituted gram flour for the almond flour as thought it was a. cheaper and b. more savoury! Loving the new food processor, which blitzed it!

I also finally downloaded Girl on a Train but really need to finish current book. Argh, no spoilers please!!

hey,

inspiring story, Im 4 weeks in on the 800 on Monday, i lost half a stone in the first 2 weeks, last week stepped up running, I ran a half marathon in May before I started this regime, i got things the wrong way round! Last week ran a 5k, 7k and then run london 10k on Sunday, for the 10k i ate some porridge made with water and a banana for fuel in the morning. After the race I kept to the diet pretty much but due to the breakfast was 200cal over, but better than stressing about breaking down was my feelings on it.

I started at about 120kilos, I have found myself the last 3 days feeling hungry which I guess is due to the additional exercise last week so calming it until tomorrow this week.

So , yeah it is tricky, however my understanding is that your body starts to pull on the fat rather than carbs for fuel. However I heard a programme which suggested your “turbo” comes from carbs! Who knows, I know I feel better on this diet but gusto when running etc. definitely slower..

I suppose everyone’s different Eps, some people may wake up ravenous and breakfast might keep them going until mid-afternoon. Some of my friends have porridge in the morning and are still full at lunch time, if I ate porridge, I’d need brunch AND lunch lol. Some people can eat smaller meals, I’ve been so used to eating massive portions – greed, plain and simple – that the thought of sitting at night hungry is terrifying. It probably wasn’t even hunger, just habit. As it is, even though my tea is much much smaller than what I’d have eaten before, I’m rarely clearing my plate. But I need to be sure that that one meal of the day is going to be enough to satisfy me. Or provide me with more than salad lol (you know me and salad!)

I’ve browsed through my Kindle and yes, Girl on the Train. I have been meaning to read it for ages so while it’s fresh in my head, I’ve binned Tipping Point for a bit, I was in a novel mood anyway, and what the what is going on in this book???? I have absolutely no idea what is going on. Which is the point, I suppose…

Everyone quiet tonight?

Oooops! Well you’re not alone in transgressing and you’ve calculated the damage (in calories at least), so just chalk it up and move on. Don’t waste time and energy beating yourself up, it’s counterproductive. Just make sure you are back on track from tomorrow and hopefully you will find the damage weight-wise is not huge.

Keep going and let us know how you get on Verano.

Just had my first real problem. Just two days from the end of my second week and gave into cadburys chocolate!!! Had just 180cals worth but actually just wanted to raid the fridge and biscuit tin and anywhere else for sweet carbs!!!! Had a couple of glasses of ice cold water and have managed to get over my ‘sweet’ urge. Will just keep drinking water tonight and hope I can limit the damage !

Going to try oldtykes recipe for cauliflower. Sounds lovely.

It will take awhile to get the hang of things, to the point where you’re not constantly thinking about it. It will happen though, so don’t panic.

Well, at least you can share part of the meal and don’t have to cook two completely different meals.

Really like the sound of that Almond Fish recipe weescotty.
B – Yogurt, Blueberries and Tahini
L – Cauli Rice, Prawns, Capers, fish sauce and Thai Spices
D – Lettuce, sundried toms, two tiny beetroot and roast chicken breast, sprinkle of walnut oil and Nar sauce

Dinner was chicken breast, 19g of cashew nuts, garlic, broccoli and Tamari sauce, and rocket soooo delicious!! 👏🏻👏🏻

HoneyBeeMe it would definitely be a caffeine withdrawal headache I started 2 and a half weeks ago and did not give up my (big) morning coffee or my teas and did not get headaches. Can you have your coffee black or with a dash?. I remember going to a health farm decades ago and having the most awful headaches. Not giving it up again!

i agree with Verano that chickpeas and cannellini beans are very satisfying and cauli has never tasted so good. oldtyke’s recipe sounds wonderful and I am going to do it, thank you

He did get the message, especially as he has seen my b/g results drop dramatically. However, I am right now making the veg fritatta for both of us and cooking him oven chips. Hey ho.

It’s all carbs Buddlesdevere, not just sugars I’m afraid.