Yay go Lucky – let’s pray for plump and juicy babs!

Yes, it’s roasting. Sparkling water and some lime is pretty good too though is no wine I guess ;-))

Hi I started the diet yesterday so early days and I feel very hungry!

I am not diabetic but I am about a stone and a half over weight and have high cholesterol. Have people found their cholesterol level drops?

Even when I was my ideal weight of 8st 5lbs I had high cholesterol where as my brother who is obese has low cholesterol. This annoys the girls he works with. They are all on low fat diets and all have high cholesterol.

When I looked at the difference between our diets I noted that he prefers savoury things. So although he ate a lot of fat and meals we all rolled our eyes at, he doesn’t eat much sugar. No sugar in drinks, not a real pudding fan etc.

I tried to limit my intake of fat but I live cake and cappuccinos and chocolate. I wonder if that was the real difference

Well, they’re in the oven… couldn’t really shape the dough as was very… sloppy, so just spooned an amount on the baking tray and I’m hoping for the best. Pray with me, people.

Soooooooooo hot in this kitchen, oh my God. Salmon marinating… just feel sleepy again! It’s definitely a wine night, but I’m too scared to drink!

oo yum flaked almonds or few cubes of feta ahhhh would like that now! Ok, will stop googling Nigella’s cakes so and focus on those tips for next meal – thanks Janey. hope it was tasty salad. Spritzer sounds nice too 🙂

Phew that’s good then as I quite like that, not so fond of plain yoghurt non Greek style.

Feeling quite good as only day two and I can never stick to diets but I asked the girls where I get my coffee at lunch not to give me the delicious free oat biscuit you usually have and which I love.

I am sure you aren’t supposed to have even small cappuccinos but I don’t think I can go that cold turkey

Eps, I’d say you’re not including enough fat/protein in your meal to fill you up. You need a dollop of cottage cheese or an egg, or a few cubes of feta or cheddar. That should do the trick! In desperation, keep a pot of flaked almonds to hand for a pinch to fill your hunger gap!
Lucky – careful with those sisters’ baps.. I have high hopes that you can work your magic on them!! (This sounds odd??)

I was a good girl at lunch in the pub. Chicken and bacon salad (think they must’ve had a job lot of lettuce to use up!) plus a white wine spritzer with soda water. So, relatively legal!

You can have Greek yoghurt try the Total full fat it is really thick and creamy.
Good luck.

Hee hee yes yes yes to housework.

As to the baps…Lucky!!! ;-)))) Dont put too many in your mouth at once now…

On a much more serious note, let me know how they turn out. And looking forward to hearing about the Nigella cake too Janey.

I have a confession to make – I’m hungry!!! Had great lunch of sauerkraut and peppers, and radishes and salmon and then 2 chickpea biscuits (yes, they are still not mouldy) and now I’m hungry again and was this morning too. :-(( I’m wondering is it real hunger or just weird gnawing feeling because I had the biscuits? Or do I actually need more food! Week 10 now so maybe I need to add in more. Or is it because I added in more that I am feeling hungry??? Or maybe I’m just bored….

Mind yourself Gymgirl!

Hi all
Having a small problem I don’t understand. My husband and I are both on the diet and this is he beginning of our third week. While I have lost 19lbs in the first two weeks my husband has only lost 1 kg ( 1lb 2 oz.) he is only having what I feed him and has given up his 10 pints of Guiness a week – understandably he is very disappointed!

He doesn’t have much exercise ( I walk our dogs) so we have bought a treadmill and begun to use that for us both but mainly Brian to exercise. As we are both 68 we are starting gently with the intention to build up time and speed.

Can anyone explain why hubby hasn’t had the expected weight loss? By the way I’m a woman don’t be deceived by my email name !!!) here’s hoping Chris

Hello there Bloodysugar,

OMG i’ve used your name in vain so often these last few weeks, usually loudly and heavily emphasised. Hope the great pressure wave generated from said use was in no way responsible for your tumble from said wagon 🙂 😉

I’m not sure too many of us go through the programme without being unseated and having to climb back onto that bucking wagon, and yes, I’m fairly addicted to sugary things. Can’t say I’m over that, almost 6 weeks in. But I’ve come to see that the best thing is knowing that the wagon is there waiting.

Re your gut upsets from fatty, sugary foods – my only suggestion/question would be: have you had your gall bladder checked? Unpleasant for you, so good luck with solving the problem.

Hypogal
given your statement that diabetes reversal was common medical knowledge, well before the BSD diet came out, I have to take it that you are a non diabetic at a good weight. Your follow up statement, “I thought that was a given, and that would be the reason why all of you are here” begs the question, why are YOU here?
Have you come to offer support and knowledge to us, or are you simply here to belittle us? Your posts when not direct copy and pastes from Google suggest the latter.

I didn’t know that about the dust!

How was your pub lunch, anything to confess??? Are you drunk/did you eat chips/proposition anyone in any language, including mother tongue??

I have a confession to make, I am currently fiddling around with the Hemsley sisters’ baps…

…recipe in my kitchen 😀

I think the recipes are fantastic. I use an App called Paprika to store all the recipes I use and like in one place. It is always available in my phone or iPad. It is so much more convenient than the book when travelling or away from home.
Many of the recipes from the book are available to download straight into Paprika which is great, but I do wonder why so many of them are not on the website?
Please put them all on.
The most recent one I can’t get on line is Chicken and Asparagus Salad ( which is really delicious)
Please put them on your site.

There are many studies which can be sourced on the internet regarding the history and research on low carb and high fat eating. Many are highly rated in terms of their scientific rigour, which is important to me.

Amongst many others here, my OH and I been encouraged to read extensively around the whole subject. It is up to others how much associated reading they do and how they utilise the information and you risk grossly underestimating the capacity of many here if you assume that we follow the BSD as yet another fad without rigorously looking at the science.

I believe that Michael Mosley supports Dr Roy Taylor and his work by making the BSD simple to follow, rather than the current medical advice to “eat a balanced diet” when many people are very confused as to what this is.

Inevitably, the science in the book is relatively basic but is also understandable and I feel that the simplicity of the system allows people to take control of their lives (as Bill1954 has done – not sure why anyone should take it upon themselves to suggest he should do further research, trifle patronising, no?)

I wish everyone here the greatest of success, and – if you want apocryphal data – I can confirm a 20lb loss over 8 weeks with greatly improved feelings of health and aliveness whilst OH is progressing his target of coming off Metformin with the active support of his GP who is very happy he is following the BSD.

Pain is rubbish, but any sort of official authorisation NOT to do housework is a plus 😀
Look after yourself and rest up a bit if possible. And remember, dust doesn’t get any thicker after the first 4 years. Fact.

Many natural products contain sugars, in this case in the form of lactose from milk. If it is described as plain Greek yog then sugars wouldn’t be from added sugar. Greek is often recommended over normal yog as it has a relatively higher protein and fat content to sugar content, so fills you up, and is tasty. To get it thick and creamy much of the watery content – whey – is strained out, hence more concentrated protein content etc. With supermarket Greek style yog they often add thickeners rather than use the trad process.

A real expert may be along soon.

You’ll have to be careful then! No housework sounds good though, unfortunately if I didn’t do mine, nobody else would do it 🙁 I really wanted to get the house spring cleaned for the summer because once they’re home, it’s pointless doing anything, constant cups in the sink, walking in and out soaked, carrying grass on their feet… it’s just too hot today to do anything!

My job isn’t particularly active but it involves a reasonable amount of stretching and bending which is the problem on the plus side he did say no housework 😆 Just as well my daughter starts her holiday on Friday !

Hi Annais
Thanks for your reply. My hubby also a big lad but he got his mind set to this diet. I’m trying things I never thought possible like hallumi cheese it’s lovely. We were always big curry eaters as both of us make our curries from scratch so the veg curry was lovely but i need to get my head round devising one with a little chicken.
Needless to say my diet break included a donner kebab and a curry and rice with a fair few glasses of wine over a couple of days. But I slapped my wrists didn’t get despondant and Monday was strict again . I had put on a little of what I lost but hoping to be back there in a couple of days. Good luck to you both.keep me posted please

Yikes, that’s not good. Is it an active job that you do? Painkillers are so hit and miss with back pain. Try and rest up as much as you can, I guess it’s hard when you’re used to exercising but best not to exacerbate any injuries and leave yourself in a worse state!

Thought that knowledge of Roy Taylor’s Newcastle Study was a given.
It is certainly the very first thing I discovered online when I was diagnosed as Type 2 Diabetic in January and the thing that led me to the BSD diet itself. Naturally it is in the foreword of the BSD book. On my very first meeting with the Diabetic Nurse I went armed with a printed copy of the study just in case she didn’t know about it…….of course she did!
Bit insulting to think we don’t know about this study especially people who have Type 2 diabetes. It is our interest to research scientific studies. I’m positive that Bill knows all about this.
Sorry I misunderstood your query as I thought you were interested in some anecdotal evidence.

Thanks Lucky, feeling sorry for my self as following my gym injury on Sunday I’ve been to the physio and it’s no exercise for 2 weeks and he’s suggested that I have time off work !!! As I’m almost self employed that isn’t possible so here’s hoping the painkillers kick in soon 😒

Ah, you having a day of it Gymgirl? Vent or rant if you want 🙂

Hi all just reading your posts has made me feel better after my awful morning – thank you so much xx

Hiya – congrats to your daughter (and you!) on the next big step.

Can you look at the restaurant menu before going and make a “good” choice? I often have two starters – small portions and variety of tastes – and that means you’re in line with everyone else.

I know you will “want” the burger and chips but you don’t have to have it – Michael Mosley says in the book that sometimes he resists stuff to prove HE’S in charge.

Whatever you choose, good luck!

Welcome aboard Kando – hope you settle into the new regime easily.

I’m not able to answer your question on Inulin in Australia as I’m in the UK and although it is easily available here, that’s no help to you! It’s okay to have small amounts of oats, but keep a watch on the carbs. Personally, I would avoid all breads as they are all pretty high in carbs.

Have used Magic Rice and it’s okay on the BSD, although generally, it’s best to avoid too much processed food. Used occasionally though, this can be a very useful addition to the menu, as it gives you a chance to have more ‘normal’ meals sometimes, without adding carbs.

As for the sugar cravings, this will happen initially on the BSD as your body gets used to the new regime, but eventually you will find the sweet stuff less and less appealing. On the BSD we are pretty much all sugar free as sugar is that thing we are all trying to avoid. Of course there will be the odd occasion that you include something sweet, but usually in the form of berries, a drizzle of honey, or a square of very dark chocolate. Unfortunately the problem is not just about the sugar you choose to add, it’s what has been added to food by manufacturers, which is why it is best to make from scratch wherever possible.

Cutting out alcohol is a great move as that will instantly reduce your calorie and carb intake. It is recommended that alcohol is avoided for the 8 weeks of the Fast 800. I’m on my second stint of 8 weeks and although I stuck to the no alcohol rule the first time round, I have transgressed a few times this time round and find when I do, it does mess up my weight loss results.

I hope some of this is helpful and my apologies if it’s not. Do please keep posting though, report your successes and shout out if there are things you need to ask, or if you need support – there are lots of lovely folks on here and someone will be there to help.

Well done loopylou.. That’s FANTASTIC!!! I lost 6lbs my first week.. I’m sure a lot of this will be water. My daughter commented on my skin looking radiant so all those nutrients are doing me good.. Feeling positive about my time away and motivated to stick with the plan and maybe a couple of vodka and slime line tonics! X

I’m off to the pub, suckers! In a while!!

I think the Nigella cake looks very promising Janey. Good feeling about it.

With you there Jilly, thank God for coffee! My appetite has shrunk a lot too, I think for me it’s just the injustice of paying for a full meal and only eating half of it? If they decreased the price accordingly I wouldn’t mind. Time will tell, I’ll be facing one meal out in the holidays anyway, will have to choose carefully… night night 🙂

I’m not either Tokyo, tbh, I like it nice but this is a bit too hot for my liking. I’m wearing long sleeves and the heat alone is making my sunburn sting 🙁

Hahaha, checked my mail… legendary!

I don’t mind the sun, but not when I am stuck in the office 🙁 Luckily I need to work from home on Thurs/Fri due to ‘childcare issues’…better dust the deckchair off and make sure the laptop extension lead stretches to the garden lol

I refuse to have another E.F.F… coconut has a lot to answer for. Either in flour form (and drying everything to a husk in the oven) or in sugar form (and missing from your brownies!) I must have a cake for my birthday and my dad’s 70th!!

Boiling… been to get our shopping, berries, fresh veg and salad etc Yes I must have needed it Eps, it had been a bit of a day of it, including a forced early 5 am start. I’m ok if I wake of my own accord at that time, but never if I set my alarm. Done just short of 3000 already without touching treadmill so I will see how I do now pottering and washing and houseworking.

Salmon salad here! Marinated in soy, chilli flakes, garlic, ginger and spring onion. Foil parcel, whapped in oven. Sorted. Nice and easy. Three hours til one child finishes school for summer, 27 until the other two do, so I best crack on!!

Enjoy pub lunch Janey as best as you can enjoy a salad… lol. I don’t know if it was sunstroke, I felt ok otherwise, just very tired.

Onwards!!! Catch you all later 😀

janey check your twitter mail!!
well hard at work organised food wise had breakfast and lunch now nothing till tea !!
its a scorcher here not a sun lover !!
please god dont let it be another epic fail friday !!!!

Lucky Maneki,
I know the feeling, not wanting to eat out, I, too, was afraid….afraid there wouldn’t be food that I could eat…..afraid that I might eat too much or not choose well…..afraid I would put back some weight. My OH was getting a bit antsy about not going anywhere [ he was not on the eating plan ] so I finally took the plunge. All my fears were for nought, I had sufficient to choose from, ate moderately [ actually, I found to my surprise that I really didn’t want too much as I now had no need for more ], but next morning I faced off with the scales, my nemesis, and was delighted to find I was still the same weight. This was the first time in my life I had never put on weight after going out. So now I have been out a few more times.
Yes, I have slowed down, but am now enjoying a sauvignon blanc with my meal. Being allowed coffee was a great boon in these weeks, I couldn’t have stuck to BSD otherwise. I have my own espresso machine , drink it very strong….a bit of a coffee snob !
I’m off to bed shortly, goodnight
jilly B

Was disappointed last Thursday as weight had stayed the same but weighed this morning (Tuesday) and down 2.5 kg – total kg loss since i started on 4th June is 15.5. I rarely go down to 800 cal – usually around 1000. I am disabled and have to have help to get on and off my exercise bike which is annoying, so only started that yesterday – hoping some exercise will help the metabolism. I don’t have increased energy levels yet but my hernia no longer troubles me and I am fitting into things that I haven’t worn in years. I have a very large amount still to lose though and expect there will be great weeks and dire ones too; just have to keep the mind focused and set myself little targets in between. My next BS test is not until September and it will be interesting to see what effect the BSD has had on that plus my cholesterol, as the GP agreed to take me off statins because of this diet.

So pleased for everyone who has lost this week; for those who haven’t had a good one, hang in there, keep reading the posts here. I also find watching programmes such as Secret Eaters and A Year to Save my Life very inspiring -they might help you stay on track too. Have a wonderful week!

I really need to work with this diet. I have found in the past that the only diets are high protein/low carb work out for me.

I am currently 5’6′ (168 cm) and 79 kg having lost 11 kg on the Dukkan Diet and kept it off for 18 months. I still have pre-diabetes fasting BSLs. and need to lose more as BMI still at the high end of overweight. I am upset and puzzled as I have liver problems despite being a moderate drinker. My mother had the same problems and they were unable to find out why. My specialist thinks this is due to the pre-diabetes. Anyway, I have cut out alcohol completely and had no problem doing that. What i am hoping is for the BSD to help with early signs of liver problems as well as pre-diabetes.
My Tanita Body Composition scales consistently read visceral fat at 10 but I do not understand what that really means.

Too Many Questions:
1. Has anyone found Inulin in Australia. I find very high fibre content fantastic for lowering BSLs but just have trouble tolerating those very high levels of fibre. Any suggestions? I saw a great program featuring Angela Rippon recommending Inulin but can’t easily obtain it in Australia.
2. Could I introduce low sugar high fibre cereals like steel cut oats, brown rice, home made low sugar breads made with grains and seeds after the initial few weeks?
3. Magic Rice products are great but not sure if OK with BSD- has anyone tried them?
4. Has anyone tried going sugar free to reduce sugar cravings? I am really puzzled as to why I now crave sugar in the last few years whereas I had very little added sugar most of my life. Is that related to ageing or to the elevated BSLs?

Congrats and well done Lesley x

If you have steady readings for 4 weeks and a decent weight loss then tell the doc that you want the meds at least reduced.
Personally I had my HbA1c test after 4 weeks and my GP told me I could reduce the meds and then come off them if my readings stayed in the normal range after another couple of weeks.

Tokyooooooooooooooo, I want to know the story now!

It’s fantastically hot today, isn’t it 🙂 Boss just announced he was taking me to the pub for lunch! Better go for a salad…

Lucky – are you sure you didn’t have sun stroke??!! EEK! Make sure you walk your 8500 steps in the shade today.

Tried to finish up the remaining coconut pancake mix for brekkie this morning. They don’t slide down very well at 7.30am.. blech 🙁 Gave up on the second one and let the cat eat it (even he wasn’t impressed). I’m collecting the ingredients for the Nigella cake for my birthday. Friday will be baking day.. and let’s hope it’s not another EFF or I’ll be in trouble and Tokyo will activate radio silence again! :'(

Good to luck to our new- and re-starters. You can do it girls! And we guarantee to keep you entertained, whether intentionally or not!

Right so a big part of my change in body shape and mindset is honesty… So here goes. I ate the bloody chocolates urgh. Biscuits went in the bin.

The problem is we have a meal out tonight to celebrate my daughter leaving pre school and starting big school in Sept. I COULD manage a low carb option but I know I will want to eat a burger and probably fries. I always struggle when I have an event coming up. Luckily after today we don’t have much in the diary. I REALLY want to do this and I WILL. starting tom -again! There was much eye rolling from hubby.

God I hope its ok, I have been eating Greek yoghurt he entire time!!

yaaayyy getting sooo close to that 100 Lucky – practically there. Great about sleep – you were obviously wrecked and needed it. Now you’ll be fuelled up for todays walking…. should we say 8000 again seeing as you did that no bother the other day? Auch about sunburn – heard apple cider vinegar works really well for that – either in the bath or just put some straight on. Or I wonder, any vinegar? Meant to help anyway.

SO HOT here – amazing. 🙂

Today is a no chocolate day. Just lots of goodness. I think I’ll make those beetroot falafel later. And if I get time (sun makes for hectic schedule!!!;-)))) after work I hope to make Bill’s crumble. Think rhubarb and strawberries though ooooooo.

Good luck and welcome Treanna7 – you’ll do great!

Well done on taking your first step to a new you. It’s a good idea to stock up of the foods you will need, otherwise the temptation to resort to the naughty stuff might prove irresistible.
Good luck and be sure to let us know how you progress.

Maybe I’ve missed something in the book. Should I be counting total carbs or net carbs?
Thanks

Week 3. 10.5lbs gone. That includes my 1lb put on as a result of my holiday now lost again.
1 inch off from waist, hips and each thigh.
I am really pleased with my overall weight loss and the fact that BSD is so flexible. However, I have struggled this week sticking to it. I don’t really know why. I am going away again (lucky thing) on Monday but it is self catering with extended family so should be easier to stick to low carb although I will not stick to 800 cals.
Veranso, well done on your will power at the indian restaurant. Very admirable.
China2013, what a fantastic weight loss! Is there something else you can drink that will make it feel special, to replace the wine. I make up a diet tonic water with ice and a slice. It feels like a gina and tonic even though it is not. I think it really helps. I think it stops me wanting the real thing.
Good luck everyone with the forthcoming week. Heres to more weight gone forever.

Do you play in the band?

Lynne
I so admire the Sally Ann – they do what they preach!
A rarity in this World.
John

When exercising the hardest step is always the one out of the sofa.

Decided to start today and do more shopping later ( heat permitting )

Breakfast: Looked at recipes on here and chose the Avocado / baked egg one even though my fitness app was telling me the calorie count was much more. I entered the barcodes from the packets of the foods and decided to have half the amount per person, so, half the advocado and 1 egg. Actually delicious!!
I followed the recipe and used just the yoke in the centre of the advocado and made a small saucer size omelette from the white part so plate looked amazingly full.
2 glasses of water and meds….so far so good

Hi I started the diet yesterday but wondered this morning whether it was okay to have plain Greek yoghurt instead of ordinary plain yoghurt. I thought it would be okay but I’ve just looked and it says 100g contains 5.4g of sugars which as it is plain with nothing added I was quite shocked at.