Awwwwww thanks guys (gals!) I’m ok, I won’t give up now, just having a crap day. Which came as a bit of a surprise because I woke up in an ok mood, especially after my weight loss. I’ll take your advice Eps and go for a candlelit bath, take my iPod. Might even use one of the expensive bath bombs I had for my 40th! It’s the only place I’ll get any peace. Have an early night. Going to write today off as a no exercise day. I know I’ll be on the go tomorrow, have to go and get some shopping for camping and ding meals and pizzas to leave behind for the boy or he’ll probably burn the house down. I’m still tired after my stupid neighbour keeping me up, it has a knock on effect for days, and so I’m getting wound up at the littlest thing. Including hubby, who doesn’t deserve it. The car thing isn’t really his fault, the old one was dead, we had a limited budget, it was a bargain, we needed it, and it’s saving us a fortune in cheaper insurance, tax and fuel costs. Over £500 a year on tax and insurance and breakdown alone. He’s naturally worried about doing something he’s never done before, which I would be too. But he’s not a quitter and he’ll ace it. Thank God he’s not on this forum lol.

I know Yowzer, what are our choices in the winter?? I find frozen berries very sour? Apples have really surprised me. I don’t like them much, never have. But you’d think they’d be really good on something like this? And now I know they’re not, I fancy one now and again lol. I’d kill for a peach! Been eyeing up those flat doughnut peaches, I love those… I suppose that in itself is an improvement, eyeing up fruit? Ah well…

Thanks for the tips Igorasusual and thanks for the affirmation. 🙂 I thought it was doable after I got off the scale this morning but then started doubting when he put it into numbers. I religiously put everything in MyFitnessPal and I bought a Garmin when I started back earlier this year that counts steps, floors, cals, etc. so I can see what I’m doing physically to reach my goal. I started at 282 to begin with and I’m at 266.4 today, so I’m pretty proud of that but I have a LOOOONNNGGG ways to go yet. I have been limiting carbs mostly to veg, just throwing in a fruit from time to time when I’m craving sugar. And I’ve been drinking half my weight in water – about 160 oz a day – a tip I learned by reading Jillian Michael’s book years back. I wanted to use Disney as incentive because I keep setting this goal and then falling short. I want to try to set monumental gifts for goals so that I can motivate myself to do this for more than just weight.

Yes i saw it! But i wish they’d gone into more detail..what a wonderful family tho x

SunnyB do you have any idea how many grams fat we ought to be eating please?
Jill

Lucky,you mentioning this morning about autumn/ winter really made me think!
i live on so many berries these days i’m growing a beak and wings..much as i enjoy atmospheric autumn,there wont be a ton of juicy strawbs,luscious raspberries etc in the shops…
Thank goodness,i guess theres plenty of berries in the freezer section 🙂
Ps Its weird…a small apple and a peach are now just a once weekly treat! X 😋😋😋

Hi Yumcheese
Don’t despair, plateauing is common, but no less frustrating for that of course. I too have had experience of a plateau and the tips I was give and followed, were as follows: check your carb intake and try to limit it to 50g per day or less. Drink plenty, as this really helps to keep things moving. Lastly, make sure you are including enough fat in your calories, as they help to kick start fat burning.

Of course, it would be helpful to try to reign in your calories too, although there are lots of people on the forum, who only count carbs and not calories and successfully lose weight. Unfortunately, this system doesn’t seem to work for me, so I personally track carbs and calories.

Hope you will be able to get over this blip. Don’t get disheartened and don’t waste time beating yourself up for the transgression, just make this a new start and try to get yourself back on track and losing weight again. It will happen and you can do it!

Lucky you’ve done so well so far don’t be hard on yourself,you are not fat… as my friend always says there’s just a little more to love 😘 You are a wonderful role model with your attitude so keep on going we need you X

Just watched Fixing Dad on the iplayer. What an inspirational programme.
I think I must have something in my eye.

Hi gang,
So if I am going to be on this plateau a while, maybe we can put a few deck chairs over there to the right.
A tent over here,
Wind breAkers here, here and there.
A few rugs on the floor, a dozen scatter cushions.
A picnic hamper there, or shall we have a salad bar?

Now what type of music?
Elevator music,
Classical
Something to boogy to?

Or something we can do yoga to……

How does it look now?

If we hit thus plateau, at least we had be happy and comfy. What do you think?

Love Lucia
Xxxx

LACali21 – it IS possible to lose 34lbs by end September.

I started at 10 stone 8 lbs, and wanted to get to 9 stone (thinking this was very ambitious, as I didn’t have too much to lose, and I would probably grind to a halt at 9 stone 4lbs)
I hit 9 stone 1 halfway through my 9th week, and after a week away on holiday am currently at the end of wk 11 at 8 stone 13 lbs.

I have lost 15.5% of my starting body weight – work out how much you have to lose to see what percentage it is.

Things to do to make sure you will get to your target:

– get an app to count your calories/carbs – I use MyFitnessPal, which I find really helpful.
– try and restrict the amount of carbs you eat (this is actually more important than the calories, where you should hit the 800 if you can but not be too worried about the odd over/under)
– I kept my carbs to 20g per day, and still enjoyed my food (am STILL enjoying it, great dinner tonight), and that really kick-started the losses. Many people have success with 50g or less per day, you can experiment to see.
– don’t get worried about plateaux, keep measuring and checking how you’re doing with clothes.
– and DRINK DRINK DRINK. Go well over the recommended, it does help melt the fat away.

Very good luck – keep us posted. I want a photo of you with Mickey! 🙂

Hi Clparsonz
The diagnosis is scary and an enormous wake up call. Was diagnosed Type 2 at the very end of January.
Hated it. Hated it. Hated it.
But it was a huge wake up call and gave me the determination to stick to this diet.
Have vastly improved my health and well-being by losing weight…..so a big hooray.
Loads of us on this Forum have made that difference. Go for it.

Yum Gymgirl, good call, must get making the veg curry for tomorrow, and delicious Cauli rice!

noooo lucky!! It’s no wonder you’re well on your way to healthy you mean, because you have determination and grit! Jes, if you feel despondent and disheartened you should treat yourself to something nice for yourself! You’re right, nobody else will do that for you so you have to mind yourself. A lovely bath or a lovely evening stroll on your own or a great book or a funny film! Close door and enjoy it. I’d come collect you if we were near enough!!! Not ever day needs to be a marathon of steps tho, and maybe today won’t be but that does t mean tomorrow won’t be! Have to say, nothing like exercise on my own with no body wrecking my head is best way out of feeling bad (for me). But maybe you just need some chilling out time for yourself without looking after other people. You’re fab tho so not bashing oneself, even in jest! 👏👏👏👏😘😘😘✅✅✅✅✅

Hi
I’m hoping for some support.
I started the BSD on the first of July and have lost 15 and a quarter pounds in first 18 days! So I was thrilled. The last 7 days however I have only lost half a pound. My calories had started to creep nearer to 950 for 3 days and yesterday I had whole day off when friends came round for BBQ. Today I’m back to trying hard. Vigilant with calorie counting. Any tips/ advice to spur me on?
Still got 25 pounds to go…..
I have started my period and often find I gain during this time then lose week after. Thanks in advance for any help x

It’s so important to post on here if any of us are having a wobble. We are all friends, and all in the same boat, together we are more motivated. Get excited about the plan, look forward, plan scrupulously , and enjoy beautiful food that heals our raging appetites, and keeps us well. Keep posting.

Regards jan👍👍👍

Stupid question but how do you get Fitness Pal to track the carbs target you want. It just keeps telling me I need to make carbs 50% of my intake

Hahahaha nice one Gymgirl. Parp…

Yes 0.1g is low. What you need to look at with carbs is how many grams of a food stuff is made up from carbs and weigh that against the amount you would eat as a portion. So, if you have something that is 25g of carbs for 100g of the food, but a portion size would be 25g, your carb grams would be a smidge over 6g for your portion. That may or may not fit in to your carb allowance for the day, depending on what else you plan to consume. Today I bought some Oppo Ice Cream from Holland and Barrett and for 100g of the produce, there are 6.7g of carbs, so a portion size of 50g – which would be plenty for me – will only cost me 3.3g of carbs for instance.
It does take a little while to get your head around it all, but I’m sure you will get there. I use a spreadsheet to help me workout what I have eaten has cost me in calories and carbs.

Also made vegetable curry with cauliflower rice …..setting the quilt to hover tonight🌪

Tokyo – report him. I’ve done that before now. Just need the bus time and the number. Phone the office.

Janey, I’m keeping the slippers of despair on. Know how many steps I’ve done today? *shamefaced* 831. Eps, don’t shout at me 🙁 I’ve been wallowing in a pit of boredom, anger, laziness, you name it, I’m wallowing in it today. Also a little bit of ‘if nobody else can be bothered, why should I’. I’m going to shut up now because I am on a right downer. 831. That’s disgraceful. It’s no wonder I’m fat.

Well done for deducting the money from your bill! That’s ace lol.

Oooh what have you covered them with Eps?

Hi thanks everyone. I’m not sure what counts as high and low carbs sometimes, I thought oatcakes with 0.1g seemed quite low.

What carb counters do people use

I just made chicken dipper things, they not out of oven yet but smell good!!

STEP AWAY FROM THE BUNS. Both of you. Easily said by me who admittedly had had a lovely weekend (and a small ice cream today – well, we were at the seaside. And I didn’t have a cone!)

Yes I escaped Paltrow land. OH are so much last night that he didn’t want lunch. I grabbed a quick feta and avocado salad in All Bar One. I say ‘quick’ but we waited an eternity – the service was terrible. And unapologetic. When the bill came I paid it short and wrote on the bottom ‘10% deducted for appalling service’. Don’t upset Janey 👊🏼

Now we are having a quick break on the interminable journey back home. I don’t know how anyone can commute using M25 – it’s soul destroying.

Cheer up Lucky. All will be well tomorrow. Pop the slippers of despair back in the wardrobe when you’re done 😉

i could have slapped him had i got holdvof him and then i wouldnt havevrode on his big fat stinking bus !!!! i would have flounced off it and waited for the next !! i can tell you my language was mighty fine and to add insult to injury the bus stop is in front of a convinence store and a take away and all you can smell are chips !!!! a man even stood next to me eating them !!!!!!!!

Step away from the buns Skinny Minnies!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

What a git! You can join me as long as you bring your own. I ain’t sharing my buns, imaginary or not. Lol.

Hi All

Had a really bad 10 days or so. Just seem to have lost my motivation. So … It’s Monday!!! Yet another Monday and yet another start!!

It’s really encouraging to read the positive posts and even the odd one that gives in to croissants etc. Mine was a bar of Cadburys milk chocolate last night!

Anyway, today I cooked. A great tomato sauce from the Mail on Sunday but only used a tbs of oil. Looks really versatile and very tasty. Also made a red pepper and cauliflower soup. Now that is really good and only 93 cals and around 7carbs a portion and it’s really tasty. Think the shops will soon be running out of cauliflowers!!!

So tonight it’s cod in tomato sauce with butter beans, asparagus and tenderstem broccoli.

Just have to get back on track!

Hope everyone else is having a easier time than me!

I have had a wedding, a birthday and a short break in the seven weeks I’ve done. The break de-railed me slightly as I had two bigger meals one after another. Then it took me a couple of days to get back on the horse properly and I felt my weight drifting north and my mood plummeting south. I went even tougher on the intake then for a day, practically a water fast and this reset me well and I have moved on to lower weights again. 19lb in seven weeks and I’m a short little lady with probably another 15/20 lb excess weight to go. I am not new to the dieting game. This is better though.

As Beckett said:

Ever tried? Ever failed?
No matter. Try again. Fail better.

I am failing much better than I ever have before on this plan.

and lucky i will join you in those buns!!!!

my god i just had to run for a bus i looked like a seal humping along the road and then as i got to the bus he pulled away !!!!!! i am sure he was smiling !!!!
i know its good for me but i have waljed enough today !!!! i raise my fist at you crazy evil bus driver !!!!

Hi Lowenna – it is best to avoid simple carbs wherever possible. Some people on the forum do use porridge oats and quinoa, you just need to account for the grams of carbs in you daily intake, which is best tracked at 50g or less per day. You are right, almost everything does contain some carbs, so we need to seek out the ones low in carbs and/ or use very small portions of things with high carbs, so that your daily intake is not too high.
It does take a bit of juggling at first, but you will soon get used to what has high / low content. I’m sure others will come along with more info for you soon. Keep us posted on progress.

I have not used the recipes in the book at all, but have devised meals and menus for myself and just ensured I am as close to the 800 each day as poss. Obviously over a period of weeks, there will be some days you are under and some over, it will all balance out eventually. Worth keeping an eye of carbs too – best kept at 50g or under. The lightheadedness is all part of the carb withdrawal and will pass.
Hopefully things will settle for you soon. Make sure you have enough fat in your diet, as this is important for making you feel sated and stay feeling full for longer. Drink plenty as well and use plenty of above ground veggies.

You didn’t say what your results have been so far. I hope you have see some positive benefit from being on the BSD. Keep us posted and make good use to the forum – it’s an excellent place to unload and get support, as well as celebrating successes.

Just cooked the ricotta cups posted in recipes they are lovely! I used onions instead of leeks and made 15 hopefully they will freeze ok but will make a nice lunch with some salad, apparently they are 120 calories each.

My face must be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally pulled or something because he’s just washed up lol. He’s said he thinks he can cope with towing it. It’s not big or anything, just he’s never pulled one before, and he was quite a late driver at 36. He is very careful though. He just said he’ll have to get used to it now. But still, the damage is done and I’m in a bad mood and I want wine and a (twin pack) cinnamon bun. There. I’ve said it.

Seagulls are bad up here too, there’s a pair that have decimated my Mum’s garden for two years now, they break her ornaments, rip up all her plants. They were seen in the street attacking someone’s car tyres. Absolutely batsh*t they are. But the ones in Devon are frightening. My parents haven’t been for three years, my father said he would never go again, just because of the seagulls.

Day 7 – I am going to be super curious about the weight loss on the scale tomorrow. I was ECSTATIC to see another loss on the scale this morning – 6.6 lbs lost in 6 days so far. I know it will slow down over time, but it’s a good start!

DH was a downer this morning. We made an agreement in April that if I lost 50 lbs by the end of Sept that we would go to Disney for the Diamond Anniversary celebration this year. I’m a huge Disney fan. I did really well and lost the 22 lbs but then we went on vacation, stress from what was going to happen with my job at the time and then starting a new job happened and I gained back some. As of today I still need to lose 34.4 lbs, but with the loss this week I thought it was attainable. He proceeds to point out that I would need to lose 3.5 lbs/week or .5 lbs a day, as if that was not possible. I know it is a large goal to try to hit. But I am going to try my best to stay on track and add exercise once I am able to have some energy. I really want to get the 50 lbs off but also I really want to go see Mickey. 🙂

Congratulations BP you must feel marvellous
Well done and thanks for being such an inspiration to everyone ! X

BigP you are truly an inspiration. I just told my DH this morning that i only had 30 lbs to lose in Aug and Sept to reach my goal of 50 lbs lost by the end of Sept and he basically made it sound like it was impossible. But after looking at your profile and see what you accomplished I feel I CAN do this!! Thanks you were a major pick up for me this morning. 🙂

Hi Lowenna,

I think it very much depends on your reason for following the diet… If you are diabetic it is best to avoid carbs that may spike the blood sugars – so many people avoid or heavily restrict carb intake to regulate their response – and/ or to break carb addiction.
Others are wanting to eat more healthily or lose weight generally and find that restricting carbs further helps speed up weight loss. You could start off following the plan as laid out in the book and then ‘fine tune’ to suit your own body/needs?

Hope that helps, am sure others will jump in with more informed replies😕

X

Hi Josie53,

I spent childhood in Devon, my mum still lives in Exmouth…the seagulls are aggressive, especially when raising young…noisy too!! I quite like the (distant) sound of seagulls though – reminder of my youth😏

I’ve joined numerous gyms in the past but have always been put off by the cost and by the people. They always seem such unfriendly and pressured places and I always end up leaving

Today I went on an induction day at my local Warners Hotel. They let people join their leisure club and then you get the same benefits as the guests. This includes use of the pool, the gym and other activities like archery and shooting. I thought this might work better for me because I can’t do full on exercise. Everyone was so friendly. I went for a swim and a walk and easily completed my 10,000 steps. All without having screaming children in my ear!

Just thought i would post this as I had never thought before about joining a hotel club rather than an ordinary gym. And I feel this time I will keep it up.

live in devon seagulls nest in the road its like taking your life in your hands when you go out

awh poor Lucky – can hear the annoyance about that bleeding car. Damn, that roof box wouldve been useful. Ha ha ha ah well, as you said, he can work it out! Is there any enjoyment in saying I told you so? (to him) I enjoy a good I told you so :-0)))))

he he sick after a tiny bar of 85% is a good thing as apparently they only meant to be eaten in small quantities – who knew?? Like the vegan and the meat eater about animals: well why did they make them so delicious so!!!
Anyway, high five for abstemiousness in face of car turmoil! ;-))) (Up-style)

Yes, toasts deliciously. Really. It would be fab with peanut butter or almond butter. Yes, yes yes. Tell husband that if he sorts out that car quick he can have a piece soon 😉

I would certainly suggest starting off slow and making sure you don’t overdo the resistance and strengthening exercises. I always joke that MM’s Fast Execise got me to my ideal weight. It did but only because I was following the recommended ladder exercises and ended up in Bristol Spinal Unit. I would always get a GP check as well.

So I’m feeling a bit confused by what you can and can’t eat. The book says anything under a GI of 55? is okay and that porridge oats are fine but I see lots of posts on here and elsewhere saying no you can’t have porridge oats or quinoa or pretty much anything else.

I was looking today at gluten free oat cakes at 0.1g and rye bread at 1.1g which seem okay but I am now unsure. Are these okay or not. I am not eating what is on the diagram on this site but almost everything contains carbs.

Help!

Ps as far as I am aware I’m not diabetic

I did a blood test and blood sugars were around 7, so not low at all. At yes I am testing in the morning before food and also 2 hours after food.

If you feel whoozy do a blood test, if it is just a bit low have something on the good list to eat. I think there is a difference between being low and having a hypo, I have only ever had one hypo and I was unconscious but for no apparent reason. Before you get to that stage eat something. Are you testing.

Create a reason to wear that frock, go girl.👄💅👗👛👠

Yeahhhhh milestones we love them,

Regards
Jan🌞🌞🌞

Hi Lucia

Bbc2 10 pm yesterday,

Regards
Jan🍓

When do you know when to stop? That is if you are doing the BSD Fast Diet to reverse diabetes or prediabetes? That is if your problem really is just visceral fat.

MM recounts the story of a man who lost 9lb in 11 days, tested his Blood Glucose levels, found that they were normal and stopped the Fast Diet. Well the full story is that his BGs has returned to normal after 11 days and 9lb weight loss, he waited two months to see his doctor and his blood tests were still well below the diabetes mark and regular tests since are fine.

In my case my BGs as told by my HaB1cs are in the normal range, I don’t test before and after meals because NICE (the NHS advisers) don’t think Type 2s need to test. Again Michael suggests going to your doctor for tests after two weeks and after four weeks and if your results are OK to go on to the maintenance diet.

I know I put off my HbA1c, just told the GP practice it didn’t suit, so should be getting another in August, maybe even before the end of the 8 weeks, but that suits me as I have been seeing good enough weight loss results already.

So, has anyone stopped before the end of the 8 weeks? Or before the end of 4 weeks?