Morning Eps and Tokyo, how are we both today?

Eps, hope you’ve got your walking head on, I’ve already done 3899 steps today 🙂 I have the world’s most inconsiderate neighbours, I haven’t slept a wink all night, because she came in drunk 40 minutes after I went to bed, and she was still at it with her gob and slamming doors until 4.20 am this morning. That’s when I gave up and came downstairs. So I am trying to pound out some of this frustration this morning. And then, when my children are up, we’ll see how she likes SpongeBob Squarepants through a sound bar at full pelt, as her bed is moreorless over my telly 😀 More than one way to skin a cat! Don’t get mad, get even. You’d be surprised how many mornings I’ve had to hoover my bathroom wall (her bedroom is on the other side of… 😉 ) at 7 am on a Sunday morning… those things get so many bits on them…

Apart from that, a 0.1 kg weight gain. And as Peter Kay says… altogether now… 😉

morning all
hoping everyone has a good day 😀😎

Yes! Another 10,000 today at least👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👯👯 virtual walking buddies across a sea! 👭😎

No cravings is a good thing, long may it continue!👏

Hi Andy is going into week eight he lost around stone and a half which is excellent my only concern is his blood sugars are still around 8/9 most times morning/midday/night does anybody no why ??. I must admit he has only been doing small amount of exercise should he carry on with the 800 cal and start to exercise more is the fat taking longer to disperse any help would be great, he is concerned about loosing more weight so should I up his food intake please advice asap thanks Wendy

Week 2 is now over. I have lost 5 pounds this week and 1 stone 1 pound in total. The weight loss has slowed this week but is expected after the initial loss of fluids.

My trips to the toilet to pee have returned to normal but it took from Monday to Friday for the other to appear this week. I was getting very concerned and was about to buy a bulk supply of fybrogel when relief was granted!. There was no problems when I went though and hopefully in week 3 the pattern of bowel movements should have returned to normal. Sorry if this is too graphic but from reading other posts this seems to be pact and parcel of the diet at the start.

I have not felt hunger pangs on the diet. I have felt a slight burning/tingling sensation around my belly area where I suspect the body has started utilising fat to create energy. I think of this as my friend as it verifies the weight loss. Has anybody else noticed this sensation?.

I have not been too adventurous on the food front and have stuck to the same as last week. The only bit of inspiration has been mixing sugar free strawberry crusha (plus a little sweetener) and a couple of finely chopped strawberries to my natural yogurt. This comes in at around 60 calories per 100 grams and is delicious. Without the strawberries it is 50 calories and 3.6 grams of sugar per 100 grams.

I would like to hit the 16 stone range after week 3 but if it goes into week 4 for this I will not be disappointed.

Best wishes and good luck to everybody on these forums.

The week

Mon 166
Tue 165
Wed 164
Thur 164
Fri 166 (Didn’t believe it)
Sat 164
Sun 162 (Don’t believe it – say 163 probably

Result.

This coming week won’t be so easy – I’m staying at a friend’s house for a couple of days and away from scales, followed by hotel next weekend. Just have to do what I can.

John

23/07/16

Week 2
Day 7

Diet starting weight: 18 Stone 6 Pound
BMI: 28
Weight: 17 Stone 5 Pound (110.22Kg)

Thanks Ziggy
I am very pleased that I have shifted a stone within a fortnight. It gives me confidence to go forward.

I thought I’d post just a quick update. I went ahead and upped my carb intake slightly, like Orchid suggested, and I immediately felt a HUGE difference. I feel almost normal, and my mood feels much more positive. I’ll keep this up til the end of this week, and then I’ll slowly start cutting down on my carbs each week. I’ve also taken Yowzer49’s suggestion, and incorporated a short nap 😴. Maybe it was just too much all at once? I realized that I was really eating a ton of calories a day before I started the BSD, and in these last two weeks I’ve cut them by as much as 300-400%! I’ve lost over 8lbs, and almost 3 inches off my waist, so I’m SUPER EXCITED and happy to have found a way to keep it going. Thanks everyone for all your support and suggestions 😊👍

Lynne, thanks for the invite to drop in here albeit I have a loooong way to go to target weight but have lost 37 so far (on day 2 of week 13).
Just dropping in will be motivational for sure. You all are so close to your goals – makes me super happy for you!

Thanks Lynne, I will check it out! I told my cousin about you and how inspirational you are today and she’s going to get on the program as well! Your sparkle shines on and on!

Hi ziggyszombie
Yes, thank you, I am pretty chuffed😀

I was a size 16, bursting at the seams so to speak when I started and last week had to buy a new pair of work trousers in a size 12. Woo hoo!!

I’m 69kg now and at 5’6″ would like to get to 63-65kg as my goal weight.

I have found it to be the easiest ‘diet’ that I have ever done!
Cheers
Linda

Hi all – this is my introduction and accountability post. I feel as though I probably should have done it a week ago when I first started but was a bit hesitant about joining in and not sure how I’d go with the BSD 800.
I’m not going to pretend the first week wasn’t hard but interestingly the things that I found hard were generally the emotional and psychological rather than the physical. Yes I struggled with a headache for most of the first 6 days, which was a little longer than I had anticipated, but I think with hindsight the withdrawal may have triggered a low-grade migraine which I should have cottoned-on to earlier.
My OH is also taking this journey with me as he was diagnosed with Type II a year ago. After he was diagnosed, and knowing I was overweight, I checked my BSL with my GP and was told I was ‘pre-diabetic’. I had never even heard the expression until then. I thought it was black and white. You were diabetic or you weren’t. I also didn’t realise that diabetes was something you could reverse once you had it. So now I’m here. We’re here.
I bought the book a few months ago and have been referring to it religiously this week. I would thoroughly recommend any new starters doing the two week plan exactly as per the book because it teaches you so much about judging portion sizes and what a nutritious meal looks like on the plate. For my OH and I it has also been handy to work out what we did and didn’t like and how to make it work with the stupid hours we both work running our business. Meal prep in advance is key here and planning definitely helps. Even planning to fail. Making sure there was stuff in the fridge at the office and home in case we really couldn’t hold out any longer. And not kicking ourselves. Persevere rather than bail completely.
Drinking water. This was a huge one. Reminding myself constantly to have another glass of water even if I knew I was going to be peeing every 10 minutes …
And the upshot is that I’ve gone from 96.5kg to 92.9 at my Day 7 weigh-in. That’s roughly 8lb, I think? I’m pretty happy with that. 🙂 OH’s weight is also going the right direction and his fasting BSL in the morning has also come down below 7 for the last few days which has been BRILLIANT. Now if I can just get him to stop asking for chocolate and pizza all the time, THEN we might make some real progress … !!
My goal is to be under 80kg at my mother’s 70th on Sept 30. (I did the goal list too – another thing I’d recommend to anyone starting this. Make it about more than the weight. I want to be healthy again!)
So this ended up being a ramble. Thank you and sorry to anyone who has made it reading so far and I wish you all the best on your own journey to health!
Annais
xx

Day 5 – I went for supper with my cousin and DH last night and I will admit that I caved to having a baked potato. But since the others had biscuits, fruity drinks and battered food, I thought I had done pretty good. Potatoes are my downfall for low carb eating. I can live without bread, rice and other starches, but I LOVE potatoes. But I did get back on track today and stayed on plan. Most times I just take the weekend off and then say I’ll start on Monday again. But I really do want to get serious and get this weight off. It’s been on for way too long already!

I took measurements today. I know it’s almost 1 week since I started, but it’s been busy and I really didn’t have much of a chance to do this until today. I weighed myself on Thurs morning and there were 3 lbs lost. I may be curious enough to check tomorrow to see what the results have been so far too.

I’m still struggling with the 800 cals. Today I went over by 100 calories. I agree with others also about lack of energy. I feel tired in the middle of the afternoon and really don’t have energy. I didn’t feel this way on low carb before so it must be my body getting used to the lower cals. Hopefully this gets better soon.

Hi Daniel, thanks for your words of wisdom 😊 I’m counting pounds as I find it more encouraging to watch each 1 slowly drop away and I never did grasp grams and kilos.
Unfortunately, my maths has always been hopeless too – I have actually only lost 4.6lbs, having gone from 202.8lbs to 198.2lbs DOH!
So onwards and upwards….or should that be downwards? 👆👇
But, as I say, more thrilled with BS control and drop in insulin 🙌
By the way – there is only English 🇬🇧 😁…….and who or what is Arsenal and Manchester United??!
Football died for me, with the retirement of the truly great dedicated footballers such as Sir Bobby Charlton, Sir Bobby Moore and George Best etc. Compared to them, the current lot really are overpaid ‘players’! 😋 😘

Thanks sunnyb ive had a scrambled egg so far and black tea decided as im home today to start. Chicken and veg stirfry for lunch and omelette dinner

Hi linda thanks so much for all that. 21 k woohoo you must be so very pleased

ARe you feeling those hunger pains still??????

It takes a while to get used to. Think of it as roller blading for the first time. Falling a million times and then you get used to it riding across the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago.

Keep it up. Oh yeh, one thing that sucks on this 800 calorie diet;

YOU ONLY CHEATING YOURSELF!

ask away if you need more advice. THIS IS A ROom filled with wisdom!

daniel

Sorry to hear allergies are pestering you. 🙁 one secret to getting rid of mucus us to cut a piece of fresh ginger root and make tea out of it. It eliminate a lot of the mucus and makes your digesting system start to “do the locomotion”. 😉 Yeh, I am an 80’s kid. Ginger, Tumeric, and pepper I put in all my stir fry and omlette creations. My Ayuvedic doctor got me into use more spices vigorously on all foods I eat. does wonders!

I will save your son a seat on the spaceship to Mars! 😉 But, no guarantee on coming to earth again! L:OL Watching the great classic with Michael Rennie:

THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL

Will this enver happenin US and world soon/ you know, all machines stop working and we all collapse because we think we run Mother Nature when she runs and controls us! Next movie is;

The 1975 Classic: The Land That Time Forgot. Edgar Rice Burrows is a fav writer of mine. Yeh, he created Angawa……… TARZAN!

5/6 stone? You must be British if talking British English! “Me Thinks” I tend to talk it also in New York City area also. 😀

6 pounds in a week? You have the strength of Samson and the wisdom of Solomon! keep it up!

Oh yeh a stone in 14 pounds Americans! 😉

One more thing: go Arsenal, not Manchester United!

Daniel

Saturday 23 July 2016

Thanks for the recipe on Almond pancakes. You got me craving for pancakes and french toast now. :O Almond or coconut flour of course. Thanks for the encouragement.

Yesterday was FANTASTIC!

http://cbs6albany.com/news/local/saratoga-opening-day-2016-downtown-friday-night

that is a link for OPENING day at Saratoga Raceway. They say that this is an all time high attendance at 28,000+ attendees in Saratoga for the festival. Yeh, it is near the famed Lake George that Park Avenue people have lakefront mansions on……Like the movie Gone Girl.

Breakfast: None today!

Lunch: 11:15
4 Egg Spanish Omlette

Snack: 3:15
1 CUp Greek Yogurt with blueberries and flax powder (Great for digestion)
1 Cup of fresh cherries (2 servings)

Dinner: 6:1
Handful carrots with Hummus
1 cup Cottage Cheese (2 servings)

Try not to snack anything more this evening. Sunday is Fast of tammuz, sunrise to sunset. Hope to get by on it with the 800 calorie eating habits. Sundown, eating something light…. like cottage cheese and celery. Then off to sleep. Early bird catches the worm.

I’m currently not craving nor missing anything, which is a bit worrying, can’t help but feel it’s the calm before the storm? Even my pizza craving has vanished after my weird eggy bready pizza experiment the other day. Oh those ruddy lady pounds, last Saturday was a shocker for me. But the good thing is that they even themselves out naturally, so try not to worry. Are we pushing for another 10,000 tomorrow? I’m going to see if I can talk hubby into an amble down to Waitrose to get some of that ice cream, and then a walk around the prom, and if he does, I’ll make him a little apple crumble in a ramekin to go with it 😉

Night night, my bed is calling! Tomorrow is another day 🙂 Onwards 🙂

Hi ziggyszombie
I’m in Sydney, welcome!
Don’t be terrified, it really is a lot easier than you think.
I’m now down 21kilos in 14 weeks and if you follow the basics, you can’t help but succeed:
No added sugar – at all, and that includes honey, agave syrup etc
Drink 2-3 litres of non cal fluid per day. A lot of mine comes from herbal teas.
Aim for 10,000 steps per day. I got a fit bit to monitor this.
Weigh and measure everything and log it into a calorie counting app. I use EadyDietDiary.
Keep your complex carbs to under 50g per day.
No simple ‘white’ carbs eg potato, rice, pasta, bread etc
Most veges that grow under the ground have higher carb levels than those that grow above the ground.
Be careful of what fruit you eat, check the carb levels on your app before you eat it, apples are particularly high. Berries are good.
Stay away from ‘lite’, ‘low fat’ foods, eat full fat everything. This is important, you have to keep your fat levels up in order to go into ketosis.
Treat this NOT as a diet, but a new way of life and embrace it, don’t fear it.
In the first week, you may experience some headaches or aching limbs, brain fog or other symptoms of carb ‘flu’ from your withdrawal of eating carbs. Be kind to yourself, take some Panadol and ease your way through it, once that goes, the fat will keep you full and you won’t get hunger pangs.
I find that monitoring the forum helps me stay motivated and on track.
Good luck and keep posting, it really helps.
Cheers
Linda

Ha ha ha no it bloody well isn’t better, if I putting on weight I might as well gobbling cream cakes 😹😹😹

(Joking..kind of… 😳😂)

All good, I haven’t had any major falling off the wagon at all and no bad carbs just must have added more calories so guess it’s a simple eating too much again, just of different things now 😹 Will start from beginning again, it worked before, it’ll work again! Hopefully some of it lady pounds too, pre emptive ones!!

Janey – the original version is a bit sweary… NSFF (not suitable for forum lol). And oh Tokyo, your poor husband. I think via this forum I have firmly been put off cheating and alcohol! I’m bloody Paltrowed out here!

Yayyyyy Eps! Are you an Emperor? Because I think you RULE! Lol. You recognise that one, right? 😉 Ah right, I thought it would be something along the lines. Mmmmmmm toasted with peanut butter. I haven’t eaten my Helmsley bap yet, and I’ve been sniffing it and wondering if it would be nice toasted with peanut butter lol. Might be a nice breakfast treat tomorrow, I’m still full from lunch! Plus (thankfully) my appetite decreases when it’s hot. Is Monday ‘official’ weigh day? Keep plodding on with the exercise and it should be ok. It’s all been good stuff you’re putting in anyway, better than gaining weight by eating cream cakes. That’s what she said. Is it better? IS IT? *sob*

Darts going well, my favourite is through to the final tomorrow 🙂

Ooo poor OH Tokyo but probably no harm as will put him off for the next time 😳😂. Go you with your lack of caving!

Yay good one, go team😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I did 1100 something so we’re both home and dry wahoo. Have a bad feeling about this week that I will put in a few decimals of a kg but it’s not from lack of exercise I tell you! Just stuff sneaking back in I thk, too much cheese maybe or too many single chocolate squares! Anyway all good, will reasses properly Monday.

Hee hee about oatlets, didn’t even read that, just guessed porridge oats as have heard about this bread before. It is out now and looks fluffy and totally like normal soda brown bread. Could be so nice toasted! Have to still check my fitness pal for its calories and carbs but it made 15 slices so should t be too bad..we ll see! Will update soon ✅👏🏻😂.

Hope darts going well and you having nice chilled evening💐🌹

Totally agree Tokyo. See my previous comment about cake killing me slowly!

Hi thanks very much for the pointer to your post. I’ve read it and it’s interesting. I will stick with it next week and see what happens.

I will also look at the links you put in and the ketostixs xx

newsflash !!!
after our day out ( not very exciting visiting OH parents !!) we had a buffet( get me) i took majority of the food so was able to limit the damage but OH who has been doing BSD with me deceided he would eat quiche with pastry and sausages rolls and not just one either anyway even since he has felt really off really bilious and bloated !! so i deduce my good people going back to carbs may be a no go we may be BSD ers for life ( with a few treats inbetween)!!!

Dripping like a broken fridge?! I love your analogies! I’ve already poached ‘feet like a griffin’ and applied it to my fathers offending articles today!!

Have spent a lovely day in the sunshine, desperately trying to limit non legal foods in spite of my step mother’s best efforts to he contrary. Was finally pressured into a bit of my ‘official’ birthday cake and it’s been repeating on me all evening… Barf 😖 I’ll stick to the non refined options in the future I think!

Hi Lowenna you CAN loseweight still..i know someone who lost 31lbs on 8 wk BSDand she admitsshe did no exercise
I cant do much due to health probs but have lost 13 1/4 lbs in 10 days.
Try not to sit too long..move round as much as you can even if only for short time and at regular intervals.
I dont think you can fail to lose on 800 cals a day as you use up more than that even if you lay in bed 24/7 but obviously it wdnt do heart and lungs much good! Good luck on yr journey! X

Thank you so much Igorasusual, that helps a lot! I’m particularly interested today as I my carb count was quite high today and it really made me just want to eat and keep on eating, which I haven’t experienced yet since doing the Fast 800.

I started last Monday and have been reading your posts on another of the forums about not having much to lose. I wanted to post on there and say thanks for all your posts as they’ve been really inspiring and motivating for me. If I remember correctly we’re the same height (5’3ish) and I have found it really helpful to see how well you have done with losing weight and it’s really allowed me to believe that it is possible for me! I’ve been overweight for a long time and I’d almost resigned myself to the fact that the smallest I would ever get would be 10 stone (which is still feeling a bit impossible for me as I’m around 17lbs away – but way closer than when I started!) but you’ve really given me hope and a goal so thank you! And congratulations on all your hard work x

Lowenna

Please have a look at my thread “not too much to lose, but not seeing an immediate impact” which sets out how I worked through the BSD. Quicker than trying to type it all out again.

I recommend the Ketostix as it helps to know you’re burning fat when the weight isn’t moving. And ensure you have target garments to judge if the measurements are changing.

Hope this helps! 🙂

No, but just had some in the Indian cauliflower and green bean bhaji I cooked, and it’s nice as a spice (amongst several others)

Have to say I doubt whether it’s proven to lower blood sugar, sadly

Sorry Ziggy, only just spotted your post
🙁

I’ve finished my 8 weeks – started 10st 8lbs and had ambitious target of 9st. This is the end of my 10th week and I was 8st 13lbs this morning. Last couple of lbs took a couple of weeks and I was away on holiday for one of them.

I have said on another thread that a low carb target worked for me – I did this as I had comparatively little to lose, not type 2 (though OH is, and has followed similar carb targets with higher calories and managed in 4 weeks to get blood sugar back into normal range and halve his Metformin dose).

Not saying it’s for everyone – but it did work amazingly for me. I really couldn’t have done it without MyFitnessPal and knowing the carb values of what I’ve been cooking and eating.

Hi mbb22

Well, an average sort of day for me would be

B: frittata made with two eggs, 80g courgette, 6 baby plum tomatoes, 30g mushroom, cooked in olive oil and served on 20g of baby spinach. I might add either halloumi or feta cheese to that if having it later on. With my 3 cups of white coffee, no sugar, that’s about 11 carbs according to MyFitnessPal

L: 2 slices Leerdammer cheese with 20g smoked salmon. Don’t always have this – often go through to dinner. If I have it- that’s no carbs.

D: something like salmon fillet, or prawns, stir fry of veg such as 150g courgette ( 3g carbs), chilli pepper (2g carbs), 80g green beans (3g carbs), 1 spring onion (v little carb), 6 baby plum tomatoes (2g carb), 30g red pepper (2g carb). I would select and adjust quantities to hit my target. Cauliflower also good. I posted a recipe here for salmon fillet cooked in the oven with a spicy topping, and that’s a good example of what I’ve been eating.

I agree 20g of carb is a challenge – if I go over by 2 or 3 I don’t beat myself up. And possibly I’ve been enjoying the same things regularly – eg the base of 20g of baby spinach as a salad, or a head of chicory chopped – but I have really enjoyed my food.

Having hit my target weight, today I’ve increased my carb target to 30 and got dinner cooked a cauliflower and green bean bhaji, served on my baby spinach. OH and I each had c80g cauliflower, 80g green beans, 4 Spring onions, 6 baby tomatoes, half chilli pepper, cooked with spices, garlic and ginger. I added 2 hard boiled eggs each.

Quite a substantial plateful and total 12 carbs.

I hope that helps! 🙂

Ooooooooh Eps! That looks like bread!!! Bookmarked in case it’s nice. Can I asked what you used for ‘oatlets’? What’s an ‘oatlet’ when it’s at home???

Ah bugger, it looks like you’re going to beat me then if you’re on that much before you go for a walk! But – nevertheless! Today’s step total is 10,741 which, for me, is pretty darned good and I’m happy with it! I really went for it on the treadmill, upped my usual steady 4.8 k/h to 5.6 in short bursts and then back down again, I’m dripping like a broken fridge! Feet up with the darts semi-final now, and a litre of water. I know how to do a Saturday night, I tell thee!

Ps made this! Haven’t tasted yet or measured it on my fitness pal but updates soon✅😀 Left out the treacle 😝

http://www.foodireland.com/recipes/porridge-and-yogurt-bread/

Just quick hello to you all! on 8513 lucky but out again soon so will finish it off 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽😹😹👯👯☀️ Day of sunshine!

Hi Igorasusual,

I read that you stick to 20g of carbs a day and was just wondering what kinds of low carb foods you’re eating to be able to stay under 20g?

thank you for the encouragement, heres to a happier, slimmer me!

I was in the local cafe yesterday (eating my low carb brunch) when I got chatting to a lady who has successfully managed her blood sugars with a low carb diet. She suggested I pop next door to the deli and buy some fenugreek as it is known for reducing blood sugar levels, she swears by it.

Wondered if anyone had heard of this before?

I am going for an induction day next week at the local leisure club and am determined to keep to a low carb regime in the week next week so hopefully that might kick start it. I ended up in Bristol Spinal Unit when I followed Michaels fast exercise regime (undiagnosed hypermobility) so have not been able to exercise for a year.

I recently had a high CRP test and they assumed rheumatoid arthritis – I actually think having read MM that it isn’t I think it is having. Insulin resistance etc

Thanks Gymgirl, there’ll be nothing left of me if I keep losing at this rate! *Does quick Carol Vorderman…* If I lost 5lbs every week between now and the wedding, I would be attending it at … 12 stone 9 lb? I think? Last seen circa 2000. Before husband ruined my body with contented marriage and multiple children (ALL his fault). Haha, I know it won’t go down like that but imagine if it did. Bride would have a shock and a half, she wouldn’t recognise me!

I hope you’re still taking it easy and that the weather is being as kind to you as it seems to be to everyone else 🙂

Thanks for replying SunnyB.
Good to know you can’t see any glaringly obvious mistakes in my targets.
Hope to try 50 carbs or less next week then 40 following week.
No problems with hunger so far but still experimenting.
My BS results, and others ‘ successes are definitely encouraging.
Keep up the good work everyone – it all helps us newbies find our way 😘

So gang,

I am sitting on the sofa,
at the beginning of the diet, I hated it, as it caused me to get flabby and Ill.
But
Now it is helping me get healthy.
Eh?
When I sit down,
I squeeze my tummy muscles and my bum cheek muscles.
Then I lift one leg, straight at the knee. Hold in a horizontal position then SLOWLY take it back to the floor.
Then. The other leg.
Then both.
Just sitting, and straightening your leg out and then slowly putting it down, strengthens your tummy muscles.
Do one an hour and build up to doing more.

So I have made friends with the sofa.

The bathroom scales are still in the dog house. We haven’t spoken for a few days. I am just not in the mood,!

Have you a,de friends with any objects or appliances recently?

Love luica
Xxxx

The 5:2 diet might suit you better,, on it you only fast for 2 days a week, and it works, I lost over a stone on it last year. And because it is only for 2 not contiguous days a week, it is easier to do, knowing the next day you can eat more – on the Med Diet.

Happy birthday Janey enjoy yourself x🎂🍾🍸Well done Lucky fantastic results you’ll be stunning at that wedding

of course you can join us soupie!