A friend of mine told me a few years ago about her son’s then partner – a GP – who said diabetics would bankrupt the NHS. My response was to put me in a locked room with him for a while and I’d sort him out!

With the post code lottery re testing supplies there is a conspiracy theory in some quarters that ‘they’ are trying to get rid of us to save money.

Well, their wish is being granted – just not how they thought. 😃

Just think – smaller profits for drug companies, the huge slimming organisations losing members (and profits), and all those manufacturers of ‘slimming’ low-fat foods and diet meals also losing profits. Imagine – food shops full of healthy food, full fat with taste rather than sugar. 😃 Cheaper to buy healthy rather than junk food! And bring back cooking lessons in schools, cooking from scratch rather than microwaving ready meals. Or am I looking for an unobtainable Utopia?

Bruno I am so glad you posted that – a few people have reached a plateau so your experience will encourage them.
Well done on your fabulous weight loss and enjoy the rest of your journey 🙂

Lynne it must be so hard for you to see your son damaging himself like that. I truly hope he will see the sense of this diet when he sees the changes in you.
The man at the coffee morning!!! He sounds much worse than my friends partner – never thought I would hear myself say that!
My asthma nurse said that it was difficult to help patients who don’t want to help themselves as well – we were talking about diabetes because of the book.
You never know, we may meet in real life one day, and boy, wouldn’t I love to be waving a placard in an audience with Doc Mosley there along with you and Bill and any others.
🙂

😃.

Now, I wonder if I can get the twins to try it? he he.

I can just picture you with a great big smile on your face. I am so happy for you all 😃 Now relax and have a great weekend. x

Hi everyone,
Good to hear how everyone’s finding the diet. Thats me at the end of week 6.
So far I’ve lost just over 2 stone (29lbs). Last Friday when I weighed myself I’d only lost 1lb, so was amazed that I lost 5lb this week👍.
For the last 7 days I’ve also cut out caffeine. Started drinking Caffine free Green Tea which was pretty vile for the first few days but now I’m beginning to like it. Tried the curry recipe with cauliflower rice last night, it was amazing.

Tell me about it.
There was I sitting feeling fairly smug with the weight and the sugar readings reducing day by day.
Then one morning – BANG a 9.9 fasting reading. It took almost a fortnight for them to stabilise again although I do get the odd high result still but I know it’s just stored sugar coming out so I stopped worrying about it.

Way to go Bill, the best news ever!

Hopefully more people will go on pre-emptive strikes against diabetes.

I do worry for my granddaughters, as both myself and their father are diabetic. They don’t eat many sweets, which is good. When they stay with me, guess what they’ll be
Eating as much as possible. He he. *looks furtively over shoulder to make sure they’re not listening*

Not much, I know. But a start.

At the minute I’m sort of alternating between laughing and crying.
When my wife rang I rushed out into the showroom from the office to take the call and got some very strange looks from the customers when I sort of screamed “Oh Nancy thank God”
This weekend is going to be a very happy one in our house 😀

Glad you stuck that on the end Lynne
To me the foremost question in their minds would be, Is it ethical to deprive the drug and weight loss companies of the blood money they’ve been rolling in for years on the back of this horrible disease

Bill, just caught up with the posts – oh I can’t tell you how happy I feel for you and your family – I’m crying myself. What a RELIEF!!! What a Friday this is turning out to be!!
I think tonight calls for big fat juicy steaks as well as a drink!!!

The shock and stress of it all will really be hitting home now that you can heave a massive sigh of relief as you have had to sit on this and act normal for your grandchildren and the whole family during so many days – so no wonder you can’t stop crying.

This day just can’t get any better! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
In fact Bill, I’m going to indulge in a little glass of something with you and toast your family when I drink. 🙂 🙂 🙂 :)Cherrieanne is going to be so pleased when Australia wakes up! 🙂

Many thanks Bill1954. it just came as bit of a shock.

YIPPPEEE!!!!! *does very happy dance*

Bill, I am so delighted for you, your daughter and the family. Hopefully it won’t be long before she is fully recovered.

I’ll raise a bottle of fizzy water (well chilled) to you all 😃

Have a great weekend.

Well if you go on a Southern bender…. have to say it is quite understandable even if not wise. Our family are off to Toby Carvery tonight (best BSD place to eat if you avoid the pots and yorkies) and I’ll certainly be having a drink tonight (1 only 😉) to celebrate virtually with you guys. So so thrilled for you all.

So glad you enjoyed it Lynne God I can’t stop smiling today
It does take a lot of chewing because of the high dietary fibre content but they are really filling aren’t they ?

Don’t often eat at lunchtime now, but made an exception today.

Have to wait in for new printer to be delivered (old one decided to print in invisible ink – clever, but not helpful) so decided to try out this recipe

Thanks Bill, used 1tbsp coconut flour as you suggested and removed them from tin straight away. Used a non-stick tin and lightly oiled it – but it still stuck 😳. Smelt wonderful. Oh, it still does 😃 – must remember to use extractor hood!

Anyway, decided to eat it with 25g each of Brie and pâté. And I couldn’t finish it. Still have half the bread and the pâté left – must incorporate it into meal later!

Be interesting to see BG results in a few hours 😃

Oh – it really is delicious 😃

pre-emptive strike against developing diabetes
I LOVE that expression
If we can get the word out about this lifestyle there will be many many more folk administering pre emptive strikes.
Go for it OP
See you on the other side of the finishing line.

Thanks hashimoto
Yes I am very pleased, just have another 6or 7stone to go but I really think I can do it on this new way of eating. This forum really helps and I love reading the messages of support and encouragement on here, just wish I had found the BSD earlier! I have even started using the gym!!!

I will, Bill.

Sometimes when I’ve mentioned the BSD, Dr Mosely and Prof Taylor to medics I’ve seen their eyes glaze over and one actually shrugged as if to say ‘so what, no idea who that is!’ Obviously don’t keep up!

I’m with you – you, Judith and me (and everyone else of here who could and wished to), not only in the audience but with placards and/or leaflets outside, making our voices heard.

Naysayers may say our evidence is only anecdotal, not scientifically proved, but those of us keeping records can show those as evidence and our results speak for themselves.

The ‘experts’ would probably say they need a long-term randomised clinical trial, with a large number of participants to see if it is beneficial and not harmful. I think my response would be to ask if it is ethical to take that line as so many diabetics are already following the BSD and showing great improvement in their blood results, as well as weight loss and other benefits. Would it be ethical to deprive other diabetics of the opportunity to improve not only their diabetes, but also their general health? Oh, I forgot – the drug companies and their profits😱.

*off to put soapbox away*

Dunno about champagne Julia
BUT
There is this litre bottle of Southern Comfort I brought back from holiday 2 years ago and never opened.
I think it may well be time to check it hasn’t went off 😉
Sod it, I just cant help doing this 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

CRIKEY, BILL! – I cried when I read that! So happy for you and your family! Wishing your daughter a speedy recovery from her lung infection.

Have a great weekend!

Susie x

Isn’t it amazing Lozza
I well remember the suffering I went through years ago trying the WW diets. I was always hungry and I could well have done without the guilty feelings I experienced when I didn’t show a weight loss in any given week.
This diet is so much better, you can do it yourself, it’s easy. and by God it works.

Hi Bill
That’s fantastic news so so pleased for you all.X

Hey and don’t go blowing the diet too much after all the good work – although I think champagne is in order at the very least 😂

Bill I don’t think I have ever been so over the moon to hear such news from someone I’ve never even met👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍

WOW!! HOW FANTASTIC!!

So glad that it’s such brilliant news Bill. The whole family must be ecstatic!
Hope she will soon be fully recovered and back in good health soon.
You guys have a wonder weekend!

Love that phrase, Bill – Pioneer to Veteran 😊

Looking forward to you joining us veterans on here – must put in a special order for rocking chairs now. 😃

Thanks Bill1954.
I am finding this the easiest diet I have ever been on, don’t feel hungry at all. Before the diet I used to have 2 slices of toast for breakfast and 2 slices of bread for lunch and some form of potato(mash, boiled, chips) for dinner. Haven’t missed them at all.
I also used to drink red wine. I’ve cut this out and drink Brandy instead, which I did last weekend and still lost weight!

NOT CANCER
Just confirmed by the consultant, the shadow is an infection, that’s why her blood isn’t clotting.
She has now been referred to an ENT specialist for further tests.
Thank you all so much for all the love, support, and messages of kindness.
If EVER the power of prayer could acheive anything, this is it.
I can’t stop crying, I thank God it’s for good reasons.

I will be recommending this Digestic by Mimonis also as it is an herbal supplement that greatly helps me in my constipation problem. It just take few days of taking this supplement and I was totally relieved from constipation. I am hoping that I can help a lot here who is suffering from this problem.

Hi Judith.

From one Tigger to another (that was my user name on another forum!), thanks for your kind words – they brought a tear to my eye. I feel you are my friend too. Who knows, we may meet in real life one day 😃

Because I only moved here last June the nurse doesn’t really know me, but she too was amazed when I walked in after only a month on the BSD. Let’s see her reaction in April when I’ve had my HbA1c 😃. Glad your doctor has your data sheets in your records now.

Unfortunately there are those who ‘always know best’ or just follow the official mantra without thinking if it is right for them.

My son, diagnosed type 2 after me and with higher reading at diagnosis than mine have ever been, still believes in eating carbs although he has cut down on alcohol. He eats Oats so Simple (2 sachets) for breakfast, often takes sandwiches for lunch, evening meal usually has potatoes, pasta etc. The weekly takeaway (usually Indian) he has Pilau rice. His late evening snack is cereal or a banana. And he tells me I’m not really diabetic, I’m just playing at it. He has already had a couple of laser treatments for retinopathy. He is on Metformin and another tablet, and a wake up call came a while ago when his levels were out of control and the GP mentioned him going on to insulin. He’s terrified of needles, so made some changes.

He’s not seen me since last October and doesn’t know I’m doing this so I wonder what his reaction will be. Oh, I do have a spare copy of the book in case he’s interested 😃

I did know a lady who is diabetic and has COPD. She has sugar in her tea, eats biscuits, and still smokes although she is on oxygen. No idea what she eats at home, but I can imagine from what I’ve seen her eat. And I’ve known others who used to eat the dessert made without sugar, but when seconds were called would set the regular one, and always ate the cakes for birthdays. One diabetic man came to coffee morning and had toast, bought the cakes left over at the end, sat and ate them, then had his lunch – regularly sat there and wet himself! Like you say, it must be so frustrating for the medics. Indeed my nurse has said it is difficult.

Hey AKB 382
try not to worry about those fasting figures, They are still below 7
I did message the team about this as I was having the same problem, this is their reply,
Hi Bill

Chances are it is nothing to worry about. Your body is still adjusting and it’s not unusual to see a little fluctuation.

Also, if it’s first thing in the morning, your levels will naturally rise slightly during the night.

Keep an eye on it and I’m sure it’ll get on track again. If you’re at all unsure, consult with your doctor.

Hope that helps

Oh the thread you were looking for

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/rising-fasting-blood-glucose-levels/

Thanks. I feel like I have made some good progress. 22 stone when I started and down to under the 19 mark now. This after flailing about November till mid January with days & nights off for Christmas, New Year etc. I also had a setback with a chest infection, feeling sorry for myself and dishonesty/cheating on cals. I have upped my walking etc. from minimal dog pees to on a good day doing 5 miles all in – weather dependant/ work requirements being limiting factors.

So today I ate/will eat;

B -2 eggs, a tomato, a chilli pepper, few little mushrooms, leftover broccoli + a tsp of Tabasco omelette (same everyday during 800 cal phase)
L – Polish ham slices + sauerkraut + a tomato + Miso soup
D – chicken breast & some salady bits with a mustard & Balsamic dressing. 750ish Cals. I will play about at tea time to finalise what exactly I will use as salad. I have cooked broccoli, fine beans, cauliflower & ratatouille in the fridge and I like to throw in 30 to 50 g’s of chickpeas or similar if cals allow

I walk to & from work – lunch time 20 minutes walk with dog and ordinary comfort breaks for my Border Terrier in the park.,

Lynne keep on causing trouble
I don’t understand why, when the original research was conducted by someone as eminent as Professor Taylor, more of the profession aren’t taking an interest
I’m really lucky in that I have both nurses and doctors at my surgery who do take an interest, yes I was given the usual meds at first, but they do seem open to this new lifestyle and I’ll make goddam sure they hear about my future progress.
If Doc Mosely comes back to the UK us 3 and others from this forum should really make an effort to be in the audience and let people know what is really happening now, every day, in real life. Not some half assed theory but genuine experiences.

all, I can’t the thread entitled ‘rising fasting blood sugars’. anyone got a link?
Cheers

Hi all, I think this is happening to me!

Just to give you a bit of background. Diagnosed in 2010, medication Metformin 850mgx3, pioglitazone 30mg x 1 and 1.2 units of Victoza.

My fasting BG levels have hovered around 8.5 mmol/L for the last year or so. (Last hb1ac 15th Jan was 9.7). Height 6.1’ weight 102kg

I started Newcastle diet plan on 25th Jan and on 30th Jan my fasting BG levels showed an unbelieve 4.4 mmol/L, so unbelieve I purchased another monitor and it also confirmed these levels. I stopped taking the pioglitazone and still the fasting BG levels hadn’t moved much beyond this figure. Which of course was most welcome!. On 15th March I weighed 88.3kg.

Came off the Victoza about three weeks ago, now just on Metformin 850mgx3.

Generally my fasting BG levels are between 4.7 – 5.4, However on Tuesday this week my Fasting BG level was 6.8, 6.5, 6.1 and 6.5 this morning, You can imagine this was extremely disheartening to say the least.

Hey Bre
congratulations on progressing from Pioneer to Veteran (I like that expression 🙂 )
Your results are brilliant and add to this thread being the most inspirational on the forum.
I will be joining you guys next week, although probably with a lower weight loss (20lb ATM )
I can just picture us lot sitting in our rocking chairs saying things like “back in our day” and “remember when we were diabetic”
Looking forward to seeing your continued progress

Bill

Hi Julia, a few weeks ago I turned down an easter egg with a longing look after it – now I genuinely could not eat one. Sometimes the sugary smells in chocolatey/cakey aisles actually nauseate me now. My son looked at me a bit oddly the first time I said ‘the smell of sugar in here is a bit nauseating’. ‘how can you smell sugar?’ I don’t know, I never used to, but I can now and I don’t like it.
So, Julia, hang on the same may happen to you 🙂

Hi Mosleyfan it’s strange that you haven’t lost anything in the first 2 weeks.
I know you have experience with dieting so you know yourself that on just 800 calories you HAVE to lose weight.
Like Judith said check your carbs again and make sure you are drinking the correct amount of fluids and getting enough fat in your daily diet
Hopefully this is just a slow body readjustment and this time next week you will be happier.

Bill, my friend (his partner) is in renal failure (not diabetic in origin) so he has seen the renal wards full of diabetic patients who are blind amputees on dialysis. You would think it would have scared the hell out of him. His answer is always he knows what is best for him…..drrrrr
I think you are right Bill, he is beyond help. How do the medical profession put up with it, it must be so frustrating for them.
Car crash waiting to happen – sums him up.

Hi BeckyCrew
Yes loads of people have experienced it.
First week your body doesn’t know what has hit it and it will still burn carbs remaining in storage so the weight will go down without any real side effects.
Second week is a different story, the body has run out of carbs and it starts crying out for them as they are so much easier to burn than fat and to your body that is efficiency, hence the cravings (mistaken by many for actual hunger)
By week 3 you should be going in to fat burning mode and your system is working so hard to burn the fat, it doesn’t have time to think about carbs, and that is the point where you will lose interest in them too.
Stick to your guns, you’re almost there.

Hi Mosleyfan, I’ve been listening to cherrieanne’s advice on watching carbs carefully – could your carb count still be a little high? Or are you eating enough full fat? Drinking 2 to 3 litres of water a day?
You may just lose weight suddenly, hope so, for your sake 🙂

maybe I will try the 5/2? what do you guys think?

Car crash waiting to happen isn’t he ?
I know there are some really gruesome images on the net of limbs affected by diabetic ulcers pre amputation.
Try sticking them in front of him and if that has no effect, I’m afraid he may be beyond help.

Lynne, that’s a bit hard – only one surgery and no regular GP. It’s worrying that someone teaching at medical school is informing medical students to intervene aggressively with meds! 🙁

Well hat’s off to trouble makers – what other way will changes happen?? 🙂

Hi all… I am interested to see i am not the only one NOT LOSING WEIGHT on strict 800 cals for two weeks now….need to lose 10 -15 kg.
I feel maybe a pair of trousers a little slacker around the hips…no real difference on tape either.

This is my first two weeks…depressing. I have never had this problem before. Any ideas please…not diabetic and no sugar addictions always tend to eat mediterranean style last ten years….just dropped out completely, bread biscuits cereals rice pasta cake etc for last two weeks….and no weight drop.

Usually if i just did this alone I would lose a couple of kilos at least….cannot believe on strict 800 not lost an ounce …

Hi Julia
Sorry can’t remember how long you have been on the plan but the carb craving went for me week 3 to 4 and by week 5 I wasn’t even thinking of them.
It will happen for you too.

Bill, he doesn’t listen to the doctors advice AT ALL! I don’t know how they haven’t strangled him. He still smokes, he will not walk even to the corner shop – he drives. So no exercise, smokes and only gave up Friday night alcohol binges a few years ago when even he knew they were making him ill. Oh and until very recently was eating lots of sugary food, donuts, family sized chocolate bars etc. You can imagine how my friend feels!

*waves* to Bill & Judith.

Like you I’ve had some ‘interesting’ conversations with doctors. One told me he believed in ‘early, aggressive intervention’ with diabetics – Metformin, BP meds and statins. Explained I can’t take statins and the only ready I saw for Metformin was I would be able to get free prescriptions (at that time I still paid). He was a locum, who taught at medical school!

Now it seems to be nurses I have these conversations with😳. Living in a village, there’s the one surgery but no regular GP, mostly staffed by locums.

Most likely a flag on my records – trouble maker. He he.

The more I read on here the more admiration I have for you folks. Bill, Christi and Lynne thanks for the recent posts. They are helpful and informative and can’t be easy to post. I salute all those who take the time to post – it must be a big chunk out of the day.
My weight loss is only 100g this week but I have struggled with less sleep and exam-stressed daughters in recent weeks, not to mention issues with a committee I volunteer to sit on (note to self – give it up) so consider even a tiny loss to be progress regardless of my original hope. At least work is simple ATM.
Best wishes to all for a good weekend – food choices too!
I have been thinking that I still haven’t seen the reduced desire for sweet things others report, with the exception of sugar free fizzy drinks which I now find unbearable. Anyone else similar? I resist 90% of the time but others report a total reduction of desire for them – would love to see that happen to me. Apologies for long and rambling post!