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  • posted by Bill1954
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    I’m keeping a close eye on sugar readings today to see if there are any spikes along the way.
    9am reading is 8.1 so a fall of 1.8 since 6:30.
    I intend to do a test before and after every meal today to see exactly what is going on.
    That fatty snack late at night may turn into a plate of fish and chips yet ๐Ÿ˜€

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    Hi Bill, that reading is so disappointing for you. I can’t figure what’s going wrong either, if you’re in ketosis. Certainly there’s nothing wrong with anything you ate. I can eat leeks with no problems at all, I prefer them in cooking than onions.
    Could you swap your berries for a few walnuts and some cinnamon in your yoghurt and see if that helps? Or change it altogether to cheese?
    What about exercise, can you fit in an evening 30 min brisk walk or something? That seems to help me if I can’t get on top of the blood sugar levels.
    The other things to ponder on are have stress levels changed or do you have an infection coming on?
    It does seem very unfair that they’re on the rise again.

  • posted by Bill1954
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    Hi Cherrianne
    I wasn’t expecting an easy ride as I am long term T2D but this has come as a bit of a shock after things were going so well and then changed overnight.
    I’ll try taking the dog for an extra late walk tonight and have a piece of cheese instead of the yoghurt (OMG I would love a cheese’n’onion toastie)
    Definitely not giving up. Whatever is happening is internal so if I continue not putting the wrong carbs and sugar in, and this is stored sugar, the supply has to run out sometime.
    That’s my crumb of comfort for now. Hopefully I’ll have something happier to report soon.

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    Hi cherrieanne that’s good advice – stress and looming infection can affect diabetes. I was thinking along the line of captainlynne saying she and her diabetic son have different blood sugar responses to certain foods. It is so unfair that this should be happening to Bill when he is putting so much effort into his own diet and giving so much help and support to others. Hopefully things will be back on track quickly for him

  • posted by Bill1954
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    Ok there are stress related things going on ATM
    Our daughter has a large lump on her thyroid that has been giving here trouble for years. She has had 3 biopsies which all came back as undetermined.
    She was due her op to have it removed tomorrow but, at the weekend, she found a lump under 1 breast and one under each armpit.
    Op cancelled and instead she will be having a full scan tomorrow.
    We are both worried sick about her so that may be affecting me stress wise

  • posted by Cherrianne
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    I feel for you Bill, really you’ve done everything right. I’m going to try and make a loaf from the lupin flour this weekend. If I can come up with a decent one I’ll post it. Then you could enjoy a toasted sarnie. Unless you have a peanut allergy which apparently can be triggered by eating the lupin flour. Maybe Judith could bring you back some low carb bread from Aus!!
    Anyway you’re going to change your night time snack and sometimes that’s enough to settle the sugars back down. The diabetes is having one last kick before it disappears altogether ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Hi bill, what you have achieved so far is amazing. It might just take a bit longer since you have had T2 a long time.
    What about making a cheese and onion mix and spread it on a gram flour bread? Not quite the same, I know, but fairly similar, you could pop it under the grill to make the mixture bubble
    ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by Bill1954
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    I did find a bread recipe that can be used for toast although it uses quite a bit coconut oil in the recipe and is described as a fairly dense texture.
    I may try that at the weekend.
    That deep fill sandwich toaster may not be ready for the bin just yet ๐Ÿ™‚

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    The diet doctor website I’ve been reading recommends only vegetables grown above ground and suggests that some people may not be able to deal with carbs in dairy products and berries. Maybe try changing that supper dish for something with butter rather than yoghurt and berries?

  • posted by Cherrianne
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    Wow, no wonder your blood sugars are haywire Bill, that is a heavy load.
    There are so many reasons for lumps, other than the one you fear most. Breast lumps are reasonably common in thyroid conditions. More breast lumps are benign than otherwise!
    Sending you and your wife a big hug x

  • posted by Bill1954
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    Cherrianne thanks so much for that, I trust your opinion as you would know much more about it than I do. The wife seems to have gone into shut down mode. I got home last night and she told me she had slept in her chair for 4 hours in the afternoon. She rallied for an hour to help me with the stew and then sat down and fell asleep again. She woke twice to ask what time it was and then at 10pm I woke her to go to bed. I know this is all stress related as she is also a lot more snappy than usual. It doesn’t help that we have lost one family member to cancer in the last year and another is currently terminal with it.
    Janet complete re evaluation coming this weekend, I’ll be new person next week ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Sorry to hear that, Bill, children ( of any age) being ill is more stressful than something happening to yourself. I hope the scan will show the lumps are benign. Keeping my fingers crossed

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Cherrieanne you are SO knowledgable!! I do know a lot of breast lumps are benign, I had one myself about 30 years ago and had to come back to England for a scan (was living in the Middle East at the time). I didn’t know they were common in thyroid conditions though!
    Bill, best wishes to your wife and daughter – I’ve just got back in and read your post.
    I can’t believe how positive you have been for so many people on here while you are going through a personal nightmare.
    I will definitely bring some of that bread back if Bill wants some ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Bill – sending very best wishes for your family from Scotland too. I think all of us on these forums feel like you are a best friend even though we’ve never met you. I for one look forward to your posts as well as to those of the other regular posters here too. Hoping to hear better news from you soon.

  • posted by Bill1954
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    Thanks for all the lovely messages of support guys, it means a lot.
    Pre lunch reading 6.1 and I’ve been mostly stationary at my desk this morning.
    Post lunch reading should be interesting

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    Hi Bill sorry to hear about your daughter..fingers crossed all is going to be fine.
    I have only been on here a week and you are such a regular poster you already seem like family…I do have 4 semi adult ‘kids’ of my own so it is a worrying time for you and your wife.

  • posted by Mosleyfan
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    Hi Janet…interesting you mention people not tolerating dairy and berries…maybe that is me…chinese herbalist always tell me to cut right back on yogurt and cheese. Berries I hadn’t thought of as being an issue, can you point me to your info source?
    I am not diabetic just want to shift weight post menopause and its not even moving on 800 a day for last five days ๐Ÿ™

  • posted by Janet1973
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    Hi mosleyfan
    I have been visiting a website called Diet Doctor which was set up by a Swedish doctor. His plan is almost the same as Saint Dr Mosley’s and he refers to it as low carb high fat. He said that some people may be able to tolerate the sugar in berries but others might not and that dairy products still contain some sugar so if a person is still not losing, it may be because of that. I have really taken on board the low carb high fat mantra and have had a couple of better days of weight loss this week.

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    Thanks Janet will check that out ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by Bill1954
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    2 hours after lunch and the reading is now 7.5
    Doesn’t sound like a food thing, just a 1.4 point rise there.
    ***Pulls on the Sherlock hat***

  • posted by Bill1954
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    OK I messaged the team about this both for me and another user and the reply is :-
    Chances are it is nothing to worry about. Your body is still adjusting and it’s not unusual to see a little fluctuation.

    Also, if it’s first thing in the morning, your levels will naturally rise slightly during the night.

    Keep an eye on it and I’m sure it’ll get on track again. If you’re at all unsure, consult with your doctor.

    Best of luck, keep up the good work.

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Oh that’s reassuring. Bill ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by FiFiP
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    Hello lovely people, this forum has restored my faith in human kindness, what an amazing bunch of people you all are! I have lost 1st on the Sirt diet but have had it up to my eyeballs with green slime, the smell is what does for me, not the taste. It took me longer than anyone on the forum I was on, to lose 1st, 6 weeks, but hey it’s a good start & I have bought down my blood pressure to normal levels for the 1st time in an age. However I know I absolutely MUST shift my gut-bucket as must my husband, we both like more than a drop of the laughing juice & are carrying far too much around our middles. This forum has been very enlightening and I need to find the recipe (as opposed to the method) for the chick-pea flat breads, perhaps I have missed it in the book, found the scones & have found a buckwheat pancake recipe online, as if we can have an egg on something that resembles toast at weekends I think this will help us stick with it. I wanted to start the 8 weeks properly on Tuesday, but the fates have conspired against me, but despite having to travel I have kept the calories to under 1,000 and relinquished refined carbs (have more or less given them up since mid Jan). We are not into much sweet stuff or pasta, but am fast learning that this is only the tip of the iceberg and will be swapping spuds & gnocchi for alternatives, guess buckwheat will become a staple, along with celeriac in small portions. Am fascinated at all the butter bean options – yummy, works for me and will investigate flour alternatives. Will post again when I have started properly. Good luck & big hugs to you all.

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Hi FiFip, welcome to the forums, you are in the right place for support, as you are right, there are loads of lovely, kind people on these forums.
    You will find the recipe for the chickpea flour flat breads on this website. Scrolll to the top of the page and click on the recipes tab, you will need to go through a few pages as there are quite a few recipes posted.
    To do this diet properly you will need to forget about the delicious buckwheat flour as it is higher carb than coconut or chickpea flour.
    It sounds as if you have already had some great successes on the sirt diet. You will find the blood sugar diet effectively burns fat from your middle if you stick to it’s principles.
    I look forward to reading your further success ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by FiFiP
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    Thank you hashimoto – guess my food caddy is going to do well out of this diet, chucked out all my rice noodles today, the couscous will follow and am debating the barley ! Thank you for the steer about buckwheat, it was a big yes on Sirt, I will be bringing some Sirt ideas into my Blood Sugar Diet, but not buckwheat evidently…..

    Thank you for directing me to the recipes, I shall do the cod one tonight as have all the ingredients to hand and investigate chickpea flour flatbreads tomorrow.

    Big tummy goodbye, roll on size 14 trousers!!!

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Hi fifip – you will need to drop a trouser size after a few weeks of this diet ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by Shadow2
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    Bill .. so sorry to hear the worrying news about your daughter, its not a wonder your levels are all over the place. Keep positive loads of breast lumps turn out to be benign. Take care of yourself and your wife. X

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    Hi Bill.
    Sorry to hear about your daughter and I’m sure your she will be fine. Many women have lumps and many turn out to be fine. I had breast cancer in 2009 at the age of 39 and I am still here, and if the news is bad, the treatment options now are amazing. I know how worried and stressed you are, but try and remain positive. How old is your daughter? My thoughts are with you all xx

  • posted by Cherrianne
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    Good morning Bill, hope you and your wife are travelling better today.
    Praying that your daughter gets the all clear very quickly so you aren’t waiting on tenterhooks for long. xxx

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Thinking of the three of you today and hope all goes well x

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    Thoughts are with you and your family Bill xx

  • posted by JackieMac
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    Bill hope all goes well for your daughter your must be so worried. Keep your chin up. Big hugs xx

  • posted by Spirit
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    Morning Bill (and welcome FiFIP)

    I’ve just read the above about your daughter. Healing vibes being sent from West Yorkshire that everything will be well today.

    Glad also you’ve had reassuring news from the team here.

    xx

  • posted by Bill1954
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    Thanks for the thoughts and good wishes guys, scan today so we should know something soon.
    Todays Fasting sugar readings down to 7.1 so heading in the right direction again.
    Thought occurred to me that I hadn’t been to the loo much this week, until last night that is. I wonder if that could have anything to do with it.

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Interesting thought, that, Bill, slow transit is supposed not to be too good for you. I think I will up the nuts and seeds in my diet now ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Hello All – Bill I am a newbie, but have been reading your posts, best of luck with everything that is going on in your life, your determination to stick with it despite everything conspiring against you is a lesson to us all.

    I am confused.

    Baked beans and cheese = good
    Buckwheat = bad

    I can see that we can include buckwheat after the 8 week initial diet as it is mentioned in the book & on the Med Diet part of this website, but can’t reconcile the carbs in buckwheat with the sugar in a can/portion of baked beans. I stopped eating BBeenz a while back because they got too sweet but hubby loves them so they will feature as they are included in the diet.

    Any thoughts on this please fellow posters?

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Hi FiFip, you got me wondering…. so I googled….

    100g of buckwheat = 72g carbs

    100g baked beans = 22g carbs

    And fat is good!! ๐Ÿ™‚ And I have learned something new ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Crikey, thank you Hashimoto, I can see that I am going to have to become a carb sleuth! Cheese is food from heaven, love the stuff, this with wine is my weakness, but to lose my tummy I will just have to get on with it and control my weaknesses.

    Have reduced wine intake by the lake-load since mid December, down from 7 days a week (oops…..) to 2, but can see that for 8 weeks the wine is going to be a distant memory

    Cooked the Med Cod dish last night from the Recipe Forum, was sooooo easy & very tasty. Hubby liked it too. Result.

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    Well FiFip at least you can have the cheese! I love fish cooked that way ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Did my last post register?

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    Oh sugar. It didn’t. I didn’t want to take over bills discussion.
    Is it best I start my one chat?

    I am a female, type 1 for all my life, now mid 40’s, on a pump for last 13 year.
    I know it says this isn’t for t1, but I couldn’t see why. On the diabetic forums loads of people do low carb, helps the spikes in blood sugars. Many do fasting, 5:2′ so I thought I’d try.
    I wanted rapid weight loss. I’ve been on it since the beginning of Jan, so more than 8 weeks. Although I haven’t always been strict. There’s been a couple of curry and wine nights!!!
    I lost a stone. Great. But I’ve lost nothing for 3 weeks now. And I can’t work out why.

    My diabetic pump a specialist nurse was well aware from the start, and is thrilled with my better blood sugars.
    But I have another stone to lose, maybe a stone and a half left to lose. And if I’m not losing , why bother? I’m fed up now. No loss for 3 weeks.
    Plus it gets on my nerves when I do go low, forced to drink lucozade, undoes all my hard work that day.
    I went on MFP to log my calories. But I had been recently adding fats to things, thinking I needed it. Cream to soup, bacon bits to salad. 300 or 400 calories meant I was way over the 800!
    I’m struggling to work out what’s gone wrong.

  • posted by Hawkeye
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    Hi Rach19c, I was interested in your info because my son is Type 1 and I wondered if he would benefit from this diet so he could reduce his insulin. I have been on it because I was getting high blood glucose but was not yet diabetic so a panic to get rid of my belly (I had also had a gall bladder removal and when you get photographs of your visceral fat its mighty alarming). I too have plateaued which is very frustrating. Its possibly because I am getting a bit blase and not taking so much care, or that my body is trying to hang on to the fat I have left! One of the best ways I have found for moving it on is to do exercise, so I do a 20 min intense training cd (only on level one because I am unfit) or I go for a walk/run for 20 minutes. I do it before breakfast so I force my body to use my fat reserves. I find this gets the weight loss going again. I would also say dont give up because once you get to your target weight, you will have the knowledge of how to stop it from creeping up again.

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    Hi Rach19c – are you the lady from Mumsnet? If so I think the forums on this site will help you, might be an idea to start your own chat as there are so many streams & many are quite complex with all sorts of sub-streams and q&a developing. As you areT1 and have been for a while might be an idea to flag this to a broad audience although there are some amazing people in this stream Bill started – I have read the lot since joining and my head is buzzing with ideas.

    Someone posted that we are pioneers and that is true, there will be ups & downs and everyone is different, I am learning fast. I know that T1 have very specific issues, but healthier eating & making good food a lifestyle as opposed to a diet has to be better in the long-term. It is great that your nurse is supportive – how are you on the exercise front ? I am no gym bunny (I wish I could!!) but do try to get on my bike, walk & have signed up for aqua aerobics (this is for more mature ladies, hope I don’t displace too much water when I get in the pool…….) what Hawkeye says is very true, shifting fat reserves is key & giving them a healthy kick up the bum is a good way to start!

    Good luck!

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    Hi Bill
    Sorry to hear about your daughter. Keeping everything crossed she s ok.
    Penny

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    Hi Bill – Just seen about your daughter, would like to add my very best wishes and positive vibes from deepest Dorset x๐Ÿ™

  • posted by hashimoto
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    Wow, I just read my own profile – ‘I hope to lose 2 stones on this diet’. I remember entering that ‘unrealistic’ goal rather tentatively. So embarrased by my own wishful thinking I didn’t add anything else to my profile. Hoped but did not believe. I have actually lost 2 stones and 2 lbs so far!! ๐Ÿ™‚
    I haven’t posted replies as much as I would have liked today, brought my son home this morning as he is suffering from the most awful stomach bug, it began at work late afternoon yesterday, prescription drugs not working so far, I’ve never emptied a sick bucket so often in my life! Just as well I have been on this diet as I didn’t get chance to eat until half an hour ago – but NO hunger pangs.
    As someone else said about this diet – ‘it’s a flipping miracle’! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Hi Rach, I think if you can stay in fairly close contact with your diabetes nurse you should be safe on this diet. Your insulin doses will need much more careful monitoring than a type 2 to stop you having hypos.
    Not sure how the UK health system works these days,but can you get phone advice/ weekly visits or as you need them?
    It is worth a try as long as you always have some lucozade, jelly beans or glucose gel on you. Do you wake at night if you start going hypo? That would be my concern for you.
    How long since your insulin dose was reviewed? Your weight loss stalling and hypos might be down to the dose being too high? Having said that, many people find that their weight plateaus around week three. Review your food intake for carbs sneaking in ( it can happen after a few weeks as we get more laid back about the diet lol).
    Lots of questions, I realise, but you are going to have to be a lot more mindful than the majority on here. You will have to be a bit of a detective as far as working out what is happening in your body. Great news that your nurse is supportive of you trying this. Best of luck, I’m sure you can achieve your weight loss goals ๐Ÿ™‚ .
    Once you get the weight loss out the way and maintain on a low carb med style diet you should see your blood sugars become much more stable.
    Keep in touch, you’ll be paving the way for other type 1’s, truly a pioneer!

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    Hi Hashimoto,
    Sorry to hear about your poor son, no fun having a tummy upset.
    Look on the bright side though, with all that sick bucket emptying you’ll have had no trouble getting in your 10,000 steps ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Amazing the difference eight weeks has made to you. There you were feeling embarrassed about your ambitions to lose two stone! The eight weeks looming ahead would have seemed endless. Here you are today, exceeding all your expectations. Plus you’ve learned so much and are being a great mentor to the rest of us. Great stuff ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Hi Fifip
    Welcome to the forums!
    Re your confusion:
    Cooked buckwheat per 100 g:
    Carbs 20g, protein 3.4g
    Heinz baked beans(with sugar) per100g:
    Carbs 12g, protein 5 g
    So getting towards twice as much carbs in the buckwheat.
    Hope this helps
    Penny

  • posted by pmshrink
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    Hi Rach19c
    There’s a book you could look at. Jenny Ruhls ‘low carb problems solved’ (ยฃ3 on kindle). She deals with plateaus and everything else that goes wrong.
    Good luck with the diet. This is just a blip.
    Penny

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