Thank you Baristagirls and Nedds mum! Still in a bit of shock to be honest…Now just hoping week 2 goes as well and that the dreaded plateau doesn’t kick in too early! How are you all doing?

Ah maybe I will weigh more often then, as would be nice (hopefully to have lost something) and feel it’s worth it and working!
I’m going to have a cup of tea now before go on school run, handful of nuts maybe rather than biscuit hehe, as I’m feeling hungry. Had the plough mans lunch at time felt v full but think it’s just this time of day, I’d always snack and get a sugar pick me up!
In glad you’re feeling better today, yes low sugar levels can make you feel pretty lousy can’t they. Hopefully this time next week we will all be feeling the good effects! X

Hi Didmarks
Don’t despair!! 3 days is a great start. 3 more days than the week before. Be positive. Don’t let one ‘slip’ bring you down. We have all been there. As you say it is a learning curve and you are already making adjustments to the way you plan your meals, so that is the second step on your journey. I find breakfast makes me hungry as well. So I eat between 13.30 and 20.30, this includes lunch at 13.30, dinner 18.00-19.00 (it varies) which leaves me greek yogurt and half a dozen berries which I have between 19.00 and 20.00. I also drink coffee with a splash of semi skimmed milk, 3-5 cups a day. Couldn’t do without them. I have cut out bread and grains completely which has made a huge difference to my cravings. Always remember that people have a good result by following the 5:2 fast and the ‘M’ plan. So you have options that you can follow should emotions get the better of you. And boy do they create havoc!!
The best thing – YOU ARE BACK ON BSD THIS WEEK. So your determination will get you through my lovely.
Have a good day. Keep us all informed how you are doing. xx

Oh I nearly forgot about the scale! I weighed this morning also and was down 2 pounds! Water, I know, but nice to see the numbers moving already!

Hi Victorir,

Migraine is mostly better today…they actually tend to come about because of low blood sugar (such as not eating enough in a day, skipping meals etc), so I think it’s just adjusting to the much lower calorie intake. Trying to keep the fluids up, hopefully that will help too!

This is so exciting, seeing other new members starting the same day and posting well-wishes and suggestions. I knew not to give up my two cups of coffee (drinking it milk free though) in the morning when also giving up sugar. I think either could cause headaches. Hope everyone is able to move past their discomforts. Right or wrong, I weigh each morning–seems to keep me more on-track.

Hello, all –

I’ve been following the BSD since June 29th and have lost nearly 3 stone in that timeframe, so I consider it a big success – but I, too, became very worried the first time I put the no carb ploughmans into my Fitbit app and saw that the calories were off!

I don’t have an opinion about false advertising, etc. but I wanted to say that I eat the no carb ploughmans for lunch every single day (despite the calorie/carb count) with some modification and here’s why: it is easy to pull together, filling, and travels nicely. I don’t eat the chutney (I don’t care for it and it’s a hassle to find), but I do eat the whole apple, what is surely a bit larger than a matchbox piece of cheese, and I substitute pecans for walnuts (taste preference).

I’m pretty positive that, by following most of the recipes very carefully (obv this is not a good example of that!), I’m eating more than 800 calories a day because the counts in the book are off, but I’m still eating less than 1,000, and that, combined with exercise, has had a significant impact on every part of my health. I was not T2 but probably would have ended up there after a few years and I was definitely overweight and out of shape. At my last dr’s appt, every measure of my health had improved dramatically and that’s certainly a function of the diet and exercise.

So I echo Igor’s encouragement, but understand the worry about the calorie/carb counts – I was pretty upset about 5 weeks in when I realized I hadn’t been at the 800 calories I thought I was all that time. In my case, though, even if I’m at 900-1000 calories/day, it’s so much less (and the food so much better in quality) than what I was previously eating, I’m still much better off. That’s not to excuse any inaccuracy but to say that I think, even if flawed in terms of the counts, the diet is really effective and worthwhile.

Hi Victorir

I was thinking if weekly too, but Princess’s update reminded me that in the book that kicks this diet off- it does encourage you to weigh daily…

I think I’ll do that tomorrow morning….

Thanks Primadawn 🙂 Glad to be on board!

Hey apatch, I hope your headaches better this morning? From what I’ve read I think first few days are through estate headaches common, as your body adjusts, try drink as much water as u can. Hope you’re feeling ok today!
Well done silverngold and princess on weight loss already! Wow!! Good going!
How often is everyone weighing? I was thinking of weekly, as I have to walk to scales in drs, hit my 10,000 steps then, my scales at home but dodgey. Maybe I should weigh more often? X

Have just watched Fat v Carbs and it was very interesting. It differs from this plan in that there is no calorie counting so it’s way over 800 a day. Also, as somebody else noted, this is based on ‘Healthy’ not ‘High’ fat but nonetheless interesting.

I just wonder what the downsides are to low carb eating, must do some research!

Left over courgetti bolognese for dinner tonight. I used to eat quite a lot of pasta and was always skeptical about the idea of courgetti….but I actually found myself enjoying it (and feeling relatively satisfied)!

Good morning all! PRINCESS, thanks for the clarification on the berries!
I thought I’d wake up famished this morning, but I didn’t! Hooray! In fact, didn’t even feel like breakfast, so just had some green tea and a large glass of water and I’m feeling good! Plus that saves more calories for lunch, which I felt like I needed yesterday as I was rather hungry in the afternoon.
Welcome aboard, APATCH and SILVERNGOLD! Glad to have more Oct 3 starters to help keep us all accountable!
RANDAM, full fat’s where it’s at! 🙂

Hi Frog well done on your weight loss especially given that you had a weekend away.

Size10 !!!! In my dreams and even then very very doubtful LOL!

Are you coming over to the new thread 7Days … pick your carb level?

Hello everyone, I started yesterday too, the 3rd, on the 800 calories a day!
I think I am used to grazing and snacking in the afternoons which is when I’m really feeling hungry! I have to walk on the school run so that helps distract me, found need to drink lots more water otherwise I don’t feel too great.
This morning I had portobello mushrooms with goats cheese and I found it hard work to eat. I’m going to try the Greek yoghurt, I’ve stocked up on it and nuts and apples.
I’m determined to see this through as I’m Prediabetic. Had gestational diabetes with each child so I know what insulin and hypos are like and I’m desperate to avoid it if I can! I’ve had one test result as top end pre diabetes and one as diabetes so end of November I re test.
Good luck everyone! Hope you’ve all got something tasty planned for evening meal? X

It does seem strange that they would promote surgery rather than this diet. But if you’re a surgeon you don’t get paid for people controlling the problem through weight loss and diet. I can’t help wondering why doctors and diabetic nurses aren’t looking into the reaseach on the diet as there has been a lot of publicity about it over the year. If it was me I’d want to find out to see if I could help my patients a bit more than the “have carbs with every meal” that I was told on diagnosis.
Well done Tired it’s going really well.

Well, I went straight home from work yesterday and got the tape measure out – horrifyingly my waist is only a few inches smaller than my hips! if nothing else that will make me stick to it although I’m actually finding it quite easy now I’ve got into the swing of it. I think if I can’t do it for 8 weeks then there’s something wrong with me! Everyone on here has been very encouraging and I can see that it does work and I just have to be patient. I also watched the BBC programme on diabetes last night and it confirmed to me that it’s something that I want to avoid if at all possible. This forum definitely helps!

Hi all. I too started on 3 Oct. Okay so far. No hunger pangs unless I stay up too late then the rumbling can be a bit much. For me, a drink of water drowns it. Had an unintended pre regime boost last week with a tummy bug that laid me out for a day. Could not believe 2lbs dropped off in just that short a time. Hoping for good things after a week but we shall see as I am not being too strict just yet. Break myself in slowly, as it were.

Hi, still on board too – Verano I misread your post as get down into size 10 rather than the next 10’s!
I was 85.8 this morning – I want to be 7 something within the next two weeks – so 18 October very optimistically, and 25 October realistically, and end of the month as the absolute target.
I did eat a rich tea biscuit this morning, not a great start, but I have done two hours kayaking, and with planned journeys this afternoon, I think should be at least 10k steps today.
Although my diet was reasonably good in Dorset, I did drink wine every evening, & ate the odd non-BSD thing – plus I walked a lot less than I normally do. I still lost 0.3kg while I was away, and 1.2 over the whole week fro 27th, so OK & all in the right direction.

Brilliant news on the blood sugars sunshine girl – where are you going in Scotland?

Heather Patricia

The whole subject of this approach to improving Type 2 is quite complex and scientific and I believe that Dr MM is trying to be as simple and easy to follow as he can.

However this isn’t to say that all the information is as clear as it could be – and perhaps comments here will be helpful to the team in the future.

Some people here follow the recipes for 8 weeks and have excellent results.

Others investigate further – there is much on the web about Professor Taylor’s research and I hope you are not suggesting that his scientific rigour is “wrong”? He is endeavouring to establish the effects on the body with lower or nil refined carbs with experimental data.

Others combine the two approaches above – I made my own recipes using non-refined carbs and used MyFitnessPal to check carb content.

I found this fairly simple and sxtremely successful

May I suggest – and I wish you all the best with your BSD – that you put to one side your concerns with the “no carb plough mans” and either simply follow the recipes or do your own calculations.

This programme workd for many people – look at this forum – don’t get too caught up in criticism before you’ve tried it and found your way

Good luck. 🙂

I’m sure you would have resisted them too. My husband didn’t resist and put on 1 1/2 lb (5 roast potatoes). He is sitting on the naughty step thinking about what he has done. Even the dog is looking at him and judging him.

Hey all..

I started yesterday too…I’d be glad to have a few buddies to check in with from time to time..

I have to say that I found day one really difficult yesterday and think I exceeded my calorie quota (~1000 Cal AND went to bed with a migraine), but finding day two that little bit easier so far. May it continue 🙂

I had the sardine dip with red pepper, celery, cucumber and carrot sticks for lunch today, which was actually quite satisfying (and easy to prepare). Otherwise, i’m trying to hydrate and stave off the hunger with herbal teas (big change from coffee and big cups of really milky tea!).

It’s good to meet everyone too!

Good Morning all!

Just a couple of “slips” yesterday. I had a handful of Pringles (before I banished them to Legal) and I found my stash of chocolate covered jujubes in my room. Luckily there were only 5, but my fasting BS this morning wasn’t great.

So I’ve logged everything, put them behind me, and am moving onwards! I’ve had my eggs and cheese this morning and am steeping a big pot of tea.

I struggle with the sweet tooth too. What I’ve found has worked for me in the past is 0 Cal/0 Carb tea that has a fruity flavour. I sometimes add a little splenda and try to fool the craving. Works most of the time for me, but YMMV.

Make today a great one!

Cheers,

Deb

I watched the diabetes report on Panorama and the Fat v Carbs programme (Wales only I think, but anyone could watch on iplayer I guess). Both interesting and thought provoking. Have we been given incorrect advice all these years or is it, as my other half thinks, down to the individual to monitor their own consumption? As a crisp eating, toast loving chocoholic it has been difficult trying to stay away from the bad (yummy) stuff.

Feeling well this morning after Day #1, AND DOWN ONE POUND! I am not a diabetic, but I do have a lot of inflammation, so am so hoping this plan will with the pain.

Hi Canidoit my husband & I started yesterday after having family to lunch on Sunday. I stood on my scales this morning & I have lost one pound but I expect that is all fluid because of eating low carb😀

I made the Cauliflower Cheese yesterday and really enjoyed it, I used quite a strong cheddar in it though and plenty of pepper. I have also made the Roasted Pepper and Butternut Squash Soup and that is delish!!

I’m going to attempt something with courgetti tonight, I haven’t used courgetti before.

I bought this small paperback book, Calorie King Calorie, Fat, and Carb Counter. It has everything imaginable in it. Has been very helpful! It’s compact enough to keep in my purse.

Thanks for replying. That’s not so bad then @wendy1947 I am a bit of a tea drinker. Good news about the exercise too. Have you been doing it long? Have you seen any weight loss yet? 😀

Hi, I have recorded this program and will watch it tonight, I’m hoping it will give me a kick up the butt to sort myself out. There was a very interesting program on before it, but not sure if it was just in Wales called Fat v Carbs where a Welsh news reporter went on a high fat low carb diet for 3 weeks. Long story short, he amazed his GP (who didn’t want him to do it) by losing a stone in weight and lowering his cholesterol from 5.6 to 4.9!

I’m on my second day and going well so far!

How’s everyone doing today?
Also not a lover of yoghurt.. I had Greek full fat ( UK peeps from Tesco’s) with berries and seeds for brekkie.
I took the berries (strawbs, rasps, blue) out of the freezer last night and defrosted in the fridge….they had a lovely mixed berry juice by the time I used them this morning ….

I’m finding full fat IS the way to go to feel fuller longer… It bloomin’ works!

I feel like I’ve been cheated on all the previous diets I’ve done … Especially those that say eat as much as you like of rice and pasta…( Yeah hmmm.. Every couple of hours then! Hahaha!)

Good to meet you all 🙂

I’m sure Canidoit that the water in tea & coffee can still be included in the total water total for the day. Also Professor Taylor said increasing exercise is better done after the eight weeks are completed to then help keep the weight off.

3 weeks in and 6 pounds down. It’s happening slowly but I suppose it’s going in the right direction.
😊👍

Sunshine-girl – I am so pleased you are joining the new thread also. I am so looking forward to hearing about your journey to becoming free from injected insulin. I reckon things will start moving very fast now because you look to be well on your way.

Fantastic Flash. Well done

thank you Captainlynne.
your advise on counting carbs is valuable as i got lost on all the charts.
i would like to find a good chart of carbs in foods. if you have found a good one, pls advise
thanks again
mauricem

Hi Phlebas

Totally feeling your pain… I am on day 7 of the diet having lost 5 lbs in the first five days then 0.1 pounds day 6, I weighed myself this morning and put on 0.4 lbs – gutted.

Still, my trousers are looser and I feel much better but I wouldn’t have thought it would be possible to gain weight on 800 cals a day :o(

Booked into spinning tonight to see if some exercise will help. Like you, I would love to know what is going on. How far into the diet are you?
Nicola

Hi,

I started on Friday the BSD here is my progress so far.

Started 13st 10lbs and now after 4 days I am 13st 4lbs which is mental, I know some is water in fact I lost 4lbs after the first day so I am going to say that is probably the water.

I have eaten 800, 1000, 1000, 800 calories so two days I hit 1000 calories but my protein has been about 100 grams per day and my carbs have been below 50 grams.

I have found that I eat when I am bored and I have been very bored as I am stuck at home after surgery on a toe joint 4 weeks ago, so I have not been able to exercise including lift weights as I have a rotator cuff injury. (I did clear with my surgeon about starting a diet, he was happy as long as I maintained high protein intake).

I am very happy with the results one more pound loss and I am no longer obese!

My target weight is 11 stone which is the top end of healthy weight for my height, I am hoping next week to start exercising again lifting weights and doing HIT.

Cheers

FB

No idea why it posted twice?

Hello everybody. I was away on holiday on the 1st but I started on Monday ! I’m doing the 800 cal diet. I am fed up of piling on weight I’m not enormous but my clothes do not fit me andI do not want to keep buying bigger sizes. I have 2 brothers with type 2 diabetes and my mother had it too so this is a preventative diet for me. I haven’t found these first few days too difficult eating wise but have not managed 2-3 litres of water. I have had 1 litre + tea most days. Does anyone else struggle with this? I’m 58 ( for a few more days) and cannot do much exercise due to various ailments.

Welcome looplou. Holiday gains are best dealt with straight away and that’s just what you’re doing so best of luck!!!

Sunshine-girl I think we both learnt about planning on the 7day reboot. I was all at sixes and sevens before, but now that I plan my day in the morning it is so much easier to stick to my carb number. Hope you manage to get up to your 40g I think you might struggle after last week!!!!

Wow – this thread has really taken off. It’s fab to se so many other people starting out with me!

More than half a pound a day, Flash 21! Amazing!

Suluro it’s so encouraging to read you have more energy! You are putting me to shame so I’m going to get my Fitbit out👍👣👣👣

Many thanks for the lovely welcome. I have lots of questions and doubts so will need lots of support but hope I will be able to provide some too!

Yes I agree lisylis we should all pat ourselves on the back because we are all making this commitment to improve our own future health & lives. It’s easy to be told to improve ones diet & take more exercise but takes organisation & a will to do it!
My husband has just come back from seeing his GP who fortunately is most interested in what he is doing & has sent him off for a blood test & wants to see him after eight weeks & another blood test. She has taken him off gliclazide & took the information sheet about Professor Taylor’s research & seems to be viewing my husband as an interesting ongoing experiment & is awaiting the outcome! She knew nothing about the BS Diet & is the GP specialist in diabetes in the practice! but seems supportive so a hurray for her!!

Thank you both for your replies. There is something seriously wrong here – Michael Mosley or his reps or his publisher should answer these questions. It is a clear example of “false advertising”!!! “No Carb” should be No Carb not No Refined Carb. If this is wrong what else is wrong about the diet?

Thank you!! Have definitely been happy dancing this morning! But the question is, will I be a) able to keep it up for week 2 and b) see similar weight loss? I’m pretty sure it won’t be another 10lbs (although who knows?) but I’ve read about people plateauing quite early in the 8 weeks and I’m worried about this happening to me.

Welcome back loopylou

I was the same while I was away, but did a quick reboot and lost it again. Anyway starting today with Verona and KrysiaD for a week, I have to say this eight weeks around I have been up down and all over the place, and am at end of week 13 tomorrow, having lost 1.40kg in this section after all the messing around. Anyway today’s a new day, rebooting, I am going to stay at 800/40 as I need veg, see what it is by the next Tuesday. Join us if you are ready. It’s on another of Veronas threads.
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Lucia, your posts make me smile so much! I love the idea of you getting people on the bus to exercise 🙂

GOOD LUCK for your job interview. From what I’ve read, they’d be stupid not to take on someone like you! Keep us posted.