Hi Bill1954
Thank you for that, Ill give it a go. I do have full fat yoghurt (yeo valley greek style) and whole milk and I eat a lot of salmon.

Thank you for advice and support

Rachel62

Hi Collie
I’m long term T2D but after HbA1c tests taken just 4 weeks into the plan, I was re diagnosed as pre diabetic and I’m expecting to have a diabetes reversed diagnosis at my next tests in September.
That’s how fast it can all improve so don’t be discouraged.

Rachel

1kg = 2.2lbs. Guess you’re in the US or Oz?

Ok so motivation – consider how short a timescale 8 weeks is out of your life. Not much. You know you can keep it up, bottom line is how much you want to I guess and it’s much easier said than done.

Are you able to exercise? If so do you have a friend who could go with you even for a short walk? Or get a fitness app you can use to measure your steps and try to better it each day. Even if you are just walking round your house! Get some motivating music on and dance around. Anything. They say exercise makes you feel better so just pushing yourself to do a little might pay dividends. The strength exercises in the book look good (note I haven’t done them yet 😈 but I do plan to).

So what foods do you like? Let us see that. …

Hi Rico61
An amazing result for all you hard work, well done. Yes, life is good & may you enjoy a healthier, happy one. Good luck with the last 2 stones.

Hi Rachel
Ok there is a little fat in the avacado but not a lot more.
Try increasing your fat intake and forget the calories for now.
The important thing is to replace the calories from the carbs or you’re always going to feel hungry and tired.
I know it sounds strange after all you have been told over the years but it really is impotant in this diet.
Unfortunately the fluid intake is also important. Some folk are flavouring the water with fruit tea bags to make it more palatable.

Hi brown_8348 & family
Excellent effort for you all. Very impressive & good luck with the rest of your weight loss. Very pleased you gave up smoking too!

Hi JackieMac
Thank you for sharing that with me and Im glad this is working so well for you and youve lost weight – afraid I dont work in kg so not sure what you have lost but it sounds good!!

Totally agree about the motivation thing and I think thats the second big issue for me, the fact that the inches are not going and so nothing feels any looser yet – I just find that incredible and so disheartening after 16 days of near starvation – or thats what it feels like. So that coupled with the complete lack of energy is compounding how low I feel.

Rachel62

Thank you Bill1954 I will try am having GP bloods soon (when I remember to get them done) I have non alcoholic fatty liver as well so hoping for improvement there as well.Collie

Top idea for a thread.
(Background: had blood test in Jan 2016 because I was fairly sure I had gout. Blood test confirmed it, but also revealed I was pre-diabetic. Read MM’s book and started the BSD within 3 days)
NSVs to date:
1. No attacks of gout since starting diet – previously suffered bouts every 4-6 weeks. Get slight initial symptoms increasingly widely spaced, but they fizzle away overnight. No attacks since Jan.
2. Skin has cleared up beautifully. Even my wife has noticed.
3. Tons more energy.
4. Sleep like a baby and awake refreshed.
5. Proud owner of a waist, flat stomach and even some muscle tone due to the resistance exercises.
6. Have dropped two trouser sizes and have had to buy replacements for pretty much everything (not complaining). Even the trousers I got married in 18 years ago are too big.
7. Found my tastebuds.
8. Took up yoga.
9. Discovered dark chocolate (70%+ cocoa solids) after a lifetime’s aversion. Food of the gods.
10. My 13-year-old son tells me I now ‘look cool’ (I’m 60 this year, so value a compliment such as that more than being awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.
11. Four work colleagues, two friends and an acquaintance have started the BSD as a direct result of seeing the results it’s had on me.
I could go on, but…

Hi Bill1954

Thank you for your reply. Difficult one as have tried a lot of the recipes in the book over the last 17 days. so theyve been quite varied.
I suppose what I have most of is as follows
Breakfast low carb bircher
lunch avacado and salmon on tomato
supper fish and veg or scrambled egg and smoked salmon – depending on energy / enthusiasm level.
I also have between 100 and 200 ml of milk as I cant stomach black or fruit teas and Im really struggling with the water issue as Ive never been a particularly thirsty bod.
Most days average out at just above or below 800 cals

Rachel62

Good idea Bill! Wish I’d thought of that….

Hi Rachel. Not sure where you are starting from but here’s a bit of my story

Started at 115.8kg 11th January , after 1st week following the menu plan in book 112.8kg, after 2nd week following plan 111kg, after 4 weeks following menu plan down to 108.9kg. Week 5 108.4kg, week 6 108.8kg, after 9 weeks 105.7kg (14th March). Weight today 10kg.
I think your 9lbs is pretty normal from what I have seen on here.

I had a few weeks of plateau but found when I increased the exercise and drank more water it started coming off again. I have not been sticking to it for a few months now due to various reasons. I will be getting back on it soon and my exercise will be increasing.

I have found it the best way of losing weight fairly easily and keeping it off. Weight has came off areas like the bat wings, that it didn’t come off from before. Also my stomach cannot tolerate as much food as it used to so portion sizes reduced.

I suggest you make a list of the foods you like to eat that are included in the menus and search for some recipes that suit better. I found the 5:2 recipe book quite useful.

If you really don’t like any of the food then you might struggle but I suggest you try things you think you may not like and you could be surprised. There are quite a few good recipes on this forum.

I love the no carb bircher. Apple with nut butter and seeds. Sardine dip. Courgetti Prawns, Spanish chorizo soup, fish in foil, turkey and lamb meatballs. There were some meals I didn’t like so I replaced with ones I did with same calorie count.

It does take a bit of getting used to but if you persevere, exercise and drink water, the weight will shift AND you will feel so much better. Onice the sugar is out of your system your taste buds will act differently too. I had to force a glass of wine down – it tasted very chemically and different. ☺ didn’t stop me mind ☺

It’s not easy resisting the sugar, but when you can go to the shops and try on something in a smaller size you will feel better and motivated to get more off.

If all else fails read bill1954s posts – his story is so motivating.

I am glad I don’t have diabetes to contend with, it’s affects sound awful and following this new healthy eating reduces the chance of getting it I hope!

Stick with it and you’ll get the results. Keep logging in here, you will get great advice and lots of genuine support.

Good luck, keep us posted.😆 Jackie

Hi
the recipes for both flatbreads are in the recipe section ofthis site

Lucia
I have been a serial stalker on here for a while! Your posts have inspired, amused ( Ilove your humour) and encouraged me to the point where I have jumped in and am about to finish my first week. Your honesty is inspirational as we live in this ‘perfect society’ it is great to hear the ups and downs and the support from others , makes me glad to be a human otherwise I will morph into my collie dog.Thank you keep posting and really well done. Collie

Hi Collie
your fasting readings can be notoriously erratic due to the dawn effect and 6.9 isn’t bad.
Try testing just before dinner and see what that says.
I started seeing a drop in the first week, dropped a med after week 4, and now I’m med free.

Eeureka . Re Eatwell plate. Didn’t Michael Mosley mention that in a talk he gave, noting it doesn’t reflect this later thinking? probably saw it on the video he has added on his blog on this website. I still see ‘trusted’ government advice on the drinking of 8 glasses of water per day which has been discredited for some while now. Pinch of salt and watchfulness methinks.

Ivanka
I have enjoyed your post and am keen to follow your results, i am a believer in research based work but all research can be flawed (that is what I tell myself when i am hungry ha ha ) but so many can not be wrong, can they? I am feeling better in my headspace but find menu planning challenging as I eat a lot in volume so a real learning curve.
I am seeing my gp soon and want some facts to take with me so here goes. Thank you Collie

regret not spotting this thread earlier. My attempt was a disaster too. Flat pancakes which stuck to the parchment paper and didn’t taste very good. Looking at other posts I will try to forgo baking for the 8 weeks as so far just created lots of washing up and me looking for a biscuit or cake!! ( I haven’t got any ) Lesson learned.

Hi all

I’ve seen these things mentioned a few times; anyone out there have a tasty low carb/cal recipe for flatbreads I can use please.

Could be nice to go with curry – not been brave enough to try cauliflower rice yet lol.

Many thanks

Hi Rachel
can you post a typical days meals for us to take a look at, then we may be able to help

Hi I am not diagnosed diabetic but am suspicious I am pre diabetic. My fasting morning BS 6.9mmol/l. (14hr fast). At what point in the bsd800 have people noticed their fasting sugars to reduce. I appreciate we are all individuals and have our own diet interpretation, just wondered what a rough estimate would be.
Thanks

PS, yes it was new and delivered very swiftly

Hello everyone and well done to those who are doing so well.
Unfortunately I cannot report the same results, now on day 17 and although Ive lost 9lb, (nowhere near what I expected given how strict Ive been) I havent lost any inches and I still feel dreadful. Absolutely exhausted and drained, zero energy, SO irritable and still really hungry. (not enjoying the recipes on the whole)
I just dont know what to do, Ive still got loads of weight to lose but I dont know how I will get through another 6 weeks of feeling like this. Would be so grateful for a bit of advice please.

Rachel62 xx

Hey is anyone else in Aus using VLCD meal replacement shakes? I have been using optifast for breakfast but there are so many on the market like Pro slim and Celebrity slim plus all those protein type shakes. Anyone recommend the best one for flavour v cost? I dont want to spend $40 on a box and not like them.

Hey Izzy

Have saved your diary to favourites, what an inspiration you are! Love the foodie ideas, I’m going to try the mini quiches this weekend – where did you find the silicone quiche cups by the way?

The crustless scotch eggs sound tasty too, do you make them the traditional way with sausage meat?

I found a curried chicken recipe which is quite dry and might work well with lettuce wraps or as a pepper filler, so I’ll put that on the recipe board later.

Massive congratulations on your weight loss so far!!

B – Optifast choc shake 200cals
L – Tuna and goats feta salad 215cals
D – Minute steak, Goats feta salad and 30gms herby cottage cheese – 315cals
S –
plus 100mls of full fat milk for tea and coffee

I love using cottage cheese in place of a sauce, a tablespoon is only 30cals.

Hi alger, welcome to the forums, as the others have said you can do this and it is best to just start! You will soon have much more energy for your kids – in fact they might have trouble keeping up with YOU!!! Some of us are like Tigger on speed on this diet lol 🙂

Well done, but just cut down the carbs while you research further and read the many threads and use the search box too…

Hi, I bought a Nero Sports folding electric version for £139.99 on eBay and am very pleased with it. It does not rise and fall but has done the job well, the built-in programs are not particularly appropriate for us here but as it is continuously adjustable from 1 kph to about 15 or so it is perfect and records time, distance and approx calories (no inputs for weight or anything) it does what it says and does it well.

Hi Alger
You can do this. After the first few days you will experience the increased energy and wonder why you ever doubted yourself. The extra energy will come in handy with 3 children to care for. Maybe caring for the children will help you take care of the exercise component of the BSD (all of that racing around after them).
Busy mothers often put themselves last. Keep focused on the 3 principles of the BSD (the diet, exercise and mindfulness). The mindfulness section at the bottom of the forum front page can give you some tips (if you need them).
You can be the example that you want your children to model as they grow up. Eating healthy food, exercising and caring for your whole self.
Best wishes for your BSD journey.

Keeptrying, that is what you are doing. One day only you had a minor slip up. Get back on the wagon and all will be fine!!! We have all had a slip up somewhere along this journey. The beautiful thing about the blood sugar diet is that it is so easy to get back on board. So no guilt please!!!

You will be surprised how much sugar is in all cereals!! So forget them! Make yourself a nice big batch of coconut flour flatbreads ( recipe on this site) and freeze them so when you feel the munchies due to stress you can have one of those as a meal with a dollop of yogurt and a few strawberries. Even without any added sugar they taste sweet and should satisfy that need.

Switzerland has just made the guilt free chocolate brownies and said they meet her chocolate craving. Make a batch and freeze them for emergency situations when you feel like you will lose control – and like Bill says, just shout, we are all here for you 🙂

Hi Izzypeach, 2 boiled eggs have healthy fat and not too many calories!!! So it may have been a few more calories but the right sort of calories and certainly not as many as in 1 slice of thinly buttered toast – and no sugars or carbs 🙂
Be kind to yourself you are doing well 🙂

Fantastic Sue, especially since you have had to deal with a lot of stress while on this diet. Hats off to you 🙂

Well done Lucia, looking forward to you joining us in other threads on Saturday!!! 🙂

Brown and Rico, well done!!! 🙂

Guilt free brownies – being a chocoholic from way back, the no chocolate thing has been difficult for me to harness. At times over the last 5 weeks I have had 200mls milk and 1 teaspoon of cocoa powder. Today it was all too much, so I went to the shops (15 km away) and bought the ingredients for the guilt free brownies (recipe from 8 week BSD book). I knew I needed portion control, so baked 16 in patty tins. I ate one. It was perfect. Totally satisfied my need for chocolate and tided me over until dinner. My palate has changed and the cocoa nibs, that I thought I wouldn’t enjoy, satisfied my need for chocolate.

Hi Bill, you can call me anything now I am an incredible shrinking man. When I was looking for a name for my business of aerial photography I found most of the names taken. I adopted Lancashire as my favourite county after North and East Yorkshire of course. Being a Walker by name and also by nature that was the easy bit. So pardoning the pronunciation; if you wanted an aerial photo there are the four stages, 1 Look! 2 Sky and 3 Walker 4 Photo. Of course I was a bit of a Star Wars fan in the 80’s and have been known to use “The Force” of willpower to achieve things, like the Fast800 for example. So, I still answer to anything and have been called all sorts of things over the years!

Come on folks
lot’s of new people posting but the petition numbers are rising very slowly.
If you are a UK resident or ex pat, please get signing.

Congratulations Lucia,
You have brought sunshine into the lives of many people. Your musings, meanderings, wit and whimsy are fantastic.
Yes you’ve gained huge benefits from the BSD, but so have the rest of us just from getting to know you. Well done on completing the journey. x

Hi Natalie and Skywalker, Thank you both for this info.

For the last 12 weeks my sugar intake so far as I can ascertain from the labelling and Google searches has been less than 30 gm/day. I never counted carbs – just cut out or severely restrict “white” foodstuffs – job done.

Brilliant you two
2 x 5 stone weight losses is incredible, you must both be so pleased.
Happylife, this is what you have to look forward to just by eating the right foods, amazing isn’t it ? 😮

Hi Hawke
Thanks fo comment, my nights and day shifts are full on walking all night , including a 20 minute walk from car park. I am no spring chicken and get exhausted. We have one break if we are lucky but can not gurantee when so it is usually about 5 in the morning. Secretly I think they are trying to kill us or least my paranoid self thinks this!! I hope you are doing well .

Great news whalleyrange
And things will soon look much better Tibetan 🙂

I was also a big gainer of stones when I stopped smoking about 15 years ago. 7 in total. I went from being a big lad at 15 stone to not looking at the scales when it went over 22 Stones. A couple of years on some antidepressant meds added to the weight piling on. Sedentary life style and a fondness for takeaways did their stuff.

On this diet I’m now coming up to a 5 stone loss. 2 to go.

I feel good in myself and empowered to deal with my health issue. Life is good. My mood is usually light and the effort/focus required here isn’t as big a deal as I remember coming off the fags.

Hi all, well its the end of week 7 following the BSD 800 fairly strictly and keeping daily carbs to below 40g. I started at 120.2 kg and weighed in this morning at 106.2 kg, a loss of 14kg (or about 2 and 1/2 stone). After a rapid loss start I’ve settled down to an average of 1.5 kg a week. Some of the issues that I continue to experience include cold fingers and toes and peeing often. I have read that this could be the effects of Ketosis and a rapid change from very high to relatively low carb intake. But these downsides are more than off set by the feelings of more energy, clearer mind and confidence.
The only other issue I have on this calorie restricted lifestyle is that I am finding it difficult to get enough fats into my meals and trying to keep to 800 cals a day. From all the research now available its clear how important natural fats are for the good health and weight loss. If any of you read the Diet Doctor site and the principles of the low carb high fat (LCHF) way of eating will have seen the impact this has on health and weight loss. And as I love all things buttery and creamy it seems like the diet from heaven.
I’m going to keep going on the BSD until I reach a 20% loss of starting weight and then look to the LCHF and intermittent fating as a way forward.
Keep up the great work everyone, your all inspiring.

I’ve been getting Superdrug’s own brand shakes

Yesterday Day 74 weight 10st 1lb
Blood sugar 9.8

Today Day 75 weight 10st – 16 lbs lost 😀😀😀😀😀
Blood sugar 9.5

Blood monitor is indicating that the battery is low so that might be why it gave a strange reading the other week.

I have been reading through my food diary and I haven’t been keeping up my fluid intake, will have to address that in the next few days. Not today as will be at a hospital appointment with Mum all afternoon.

Morning thank you for all your help.
Big gulp weighed in today 1st day 89.6kg
Have a great day everyone ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️

A few more calories from boiled eggs won’t make much difference TBH
Now if it had have been 2 slices of toast…………
You see, you did eat a little more, but you made the right choice about what you ate 🙂

Don’t you dare creep off
Beating yourself up over a slip up will not do you any good at all. I used to like lots of things that I don’t even think about now but you have to give yourself the chance to get to that stage. Eating doesn’t solve problems and I bet you feel worse at this moment than you did reading that letter.
You already know you can do this so forget the past and concentrate on the future.
Next time you feel a blip coming on, give a shout on here, there will be loads of people here to talk you out of it.