This morning I bought a nutri bullet so I can have juice (can’t bring myself to call it ‘nutriblast’ or ‘extracted nutrition’ !!) for breakfasts.

So today I had a late breakfast juice of spinach, peach, blueberry, half banana, almond milk and flaxseeds. In future the plan is to have avocado instead of banana ( more fat less carbs ) but no avocados in the house today and was just so excited to try it!!

Lunch – small salad from deli: avocado, tomato, mixed beans, lettuce

Tea – spicey chickpeas and cumin spuds from Simon dimmer vegetarian book, all the spuds went on boyfriends plate bien sur! So chickpeas, onion, garlic, chopped pepper, celery, bit of carrot, chilli, tomatoes, full fat yoghurt. Yum.

Strawberry herbal tea for “pudding” hmmmm…

Edit -carbs are well over 80 (curse that banana), cals just over 800

Sticky, sweet + guaranteed 100pc inulin, no added anything. Have persevered. Dire effect on bowels, awful, but reckon blood sugar more important than my bum…..

Fully concur re scales, MRI’s cheaper abroad, am investigating. Might try on nxt hols, better for me than idea of dodgy scales.

Hi Ann1960,

Just wanted to say hello, and welcome to the BSD.

I have not had a bypass, though was considering bariatric surgery until I found the BSD800. Finally found the answer to my ever increasing appetite, month on month weight gain and constant carb cravings…so happy to now be eating my way back to health…life changing.

Wishing you every success,

Imogen🌻

Well done Maefly. Just shows it can be done. Your news has cheered me up as I’m struggling with this plan as I was getting bored with the food and so, the carbs came calling! However, have got my mojo back and am ready to try again!

Hi there,

I’ve been swimming 2-3 times a week now. Monday, Wed. and Friday. Tuesday and Thursdays do all the housework and general life stuff – sometimes that’s a workout in itself.

Well done everyone on their efforts – we all know how hard it can be.

Hi All,

After confirming my suspicion that most folks here talk about Net Carbs, and struggling to find a way to track this easily for myself – I wanted to share what I found for us US members.

I checked a ton of the apps available, and found that none of them support Net Carbs well. What a pain…

Then, thanks to Reddit I found out about a way to make MyFitnessPal show you Net Carbs 😉 Here’s the secret…

1.) Make sure your “Nutrients tracked” in your settings are showing Carbs, Protein, Fat and Fiber. Those all must be there. The 5th can be whatever you want – I use Sugar

2.) Go here and install this ketoscript in your browser https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript
This is only going to work in your browser, not in the app. You’ll have to first install either GreaseMonkey or TamperMonkey for your browser. Don’t worry, I use both of those all the time and have for a while (I’m a website developer and software programmer).

3.) After following their instructions to install the script – go back to your MyFitnessPal and WOOT – Net Carbs!

Here is a screenshot of what MyFitnessPal shows before you install the script:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9qbz3c4h78u1ugl/before.png?dl=0

And here is a screenshot of what it looks like after:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i02q176s55bj9sy/after.png?dl=0

Very happy I found this and wanted to share 🙂

Oh, and P.S. – I haven’t set a limit on Sugar yet – I swear I dont allow myself 45g a day – lol

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Have come out of my slump and am ready to try again.

You said you found inulin sweet and sticky, but are you using pure inulin? At first I bought Stevia which contains inulin and it was impossibly sweet. Then I did a bit of research and found that pure inulin is only slightly sweet so I bought three tubes of it and it hardly sweetens or flavours food at all. Mine is marketed as Swainson’s ultra inulin powder and I got it off Amazon. I have interstitial fat and I have high hopes of the inilin tackling it. The problem is monitoring the internal fat. I am doubtful any set of scales can distinguish between ordinary and interstitial fat. I really think an MRI is the only way. If I’m wrong, please let me know as MRIs are expensive!

Thank you Poppyflower – that’s what I needed and I think it explains I lot. Without removing the fiber amount, I’ve been eating less than I thought I was, and that would explain the constant cold feeling.

It also means that since I want to focus on carb count, I’m going to need to either find a different tracking app that lets me do Net carbs or add all the foods myself again in myfitnesspal instead of using the ones already in there.

thanks, captainlynne. I’ve been mostly eating a meal a day lately so have a very long fasting period. Mostly my blood sugar at 6.30pm has been between 4.5 and 6 so it is coming down. FBG is mostly in the 6’s. I say fasting but I do like a nibble of cheese at night sometimes, probably after reading the comments on this forum on morning glory or whatever the thing is that makes you burn lots of stored sugar in order to get you moving first thing :D…. eating a high fat thingy before bed doesn’t seem to affect this for me.

Glad your results were still lovely after your holiday.

actually 15.5g if you subtract the fibre

you’re almost half way to your goal already!

Can you do this for 8 weeks? if you want to, if you decide to, if you commit to, you CAN.

Or if you are lucky you may get to your goal before then, but try to maintain the good habits long term- the true secret to long term success 🙂

Good luck

I’m still procrastinating with another cup of tea and my son is on his 3rd pizza muffin lol

Hi I’ve not had a bypass but I thought I would bump your thread to make sure others see it. I don’t really remember anyone talking about one but that doesn’t mean there are not others here.

Not meaning to poke holes in your food but are you eating less than 800 calories? unless you are having big portions you might not be eating enough, also are you having some good fats? Have you swapped out the potatoes in your shepherds pie? Dressings of the right type would be fine if you like them, using healthy oils etc, a few nuts etc.

If you are regularly under on calories maybe add a small lunch.

I don’t like a lot of salad either but I love a tray of baked veg like carrot, courgette, tomatoes and onions, all tossed in a bit of olive oil and garlic and sometimes some spices. Be adventurous and check out the recipe threads.

Lastly are you getting enough fluid? ditching the fizzy drinks is spot on the right thing, but try to drink plenty water/herbal teas etc.

Even if no one else has had the same surgery as you, you will find great support here Best of luck to you with your journey 🙂

Sparky: Congrats on losing 3kgs your first week. I’m sure you will have no problem reaching your goal.

Tomorrow will be my first week weigh-in and the start of my 2nd week. Today after 6 days I’m down 7.4 lbs. I can’t wait to see what tomorrow brings. I’m also committed to do this for 8 weeks to see how far I can come.

well done for controlling the toast! Hope you have a lovely day 🙂

Well I got the rest of the gravel cleared, the rubber mats pinned down, the tent put up and the sand in 🙂

I have a Happy son and he has a tired Mummy!

I made these for lunch…https://elanaspantry.com/pizza-muffins/ and they were good, quite hight in calories at 144 each though. My son has demolished two and the fussy daughter doesn’t like them grrr. I’m going to see how well they freeze as I’m always on the look out for other things that can go in his lunch box and these would work well.

Well I’m gonna finish my cup of tea and then I need to start on the mess that is my kitchen and decide what is going to be for dinner. Tonight I think I will try to plan my weeks food.

……and just wanted to say that I’ve been reading the forums for the last few days and the posts have kept me motivated – thank you!
Sx

Hi Frog and Trees

I don’t think I’ve ever lost weight during a holiday before! In fact I didn’t believe it possible. But, apparently, it is possible.

Living alone I was worried about staying with friends and eating out. There were challenges, but it seems to have worked out ok.

See you in the 23 week club soon Patrice😃

Hi, I read the BSD book after it appeared on my amazon feed. I read the reviews and couldn’t quite believe the results. I was on an all inclusive holiday at the time, drinking loads of wine and indulging in more food than necessary, plus eating the kids’ unwanted chips, pizza etc. For a few months I’ve felt that my carb cravings were getting out of control and thought it was fine to eat handfuls of sugary cereal at 10/11pm (whilst having a glass of wine).
I’m 39 years old, was 67kgs and a bmi nudging over 25. So, although considered to be in the ‘healthy’ range -a) I didn’t feel healthy and b) the weight was just creeping and creeping.
So I thought I’d give it a go for one week only and lost 3kgs on week1! A few headaches but they passed after 3 or 4 days.
Now I’m totally committed to week2 – hope to carry on until I reach my goal of sub 60kgs.
Sparky x

Hi Alan and thepolly

Before I started the BSD I could never get my fasting blood sugar below 7, although readings were good later in the day. I have never taken diabetes medication, but was being threatened with Metformin shortly before I started the BSD. The day I started BSD fasting blood sugar was 10.9. After 8 weeks it was 5.3. Since then it is consistently between 4 and 5.

For completeness, my HbA1c results were: July 2015 – 8.7, December 2015 (just before starting 800 BSD) – 9.6, January 2016 (one month into BSD) – 8.7, April 2016 – 5.5. My diabetes nurse had to look at the conversion chart because she’d never seen such a low HbA1c!

I have another HbA1c scheduled in July. When that result comes in I’ll see the GP and ask for a change of diagnosis from diabetic.

Some people do find it difficult to lower their fasting result (as I did) but I have found that – for me – going low carb has greatly improved that level as well as making the levels through the day more consistent. And lowering the fasting level can only improve the HbA1c result.

I do wish I could find a definitive book, preferably not an American one, on the predimed diet.

ok I have just worked out they are about 18.8g of carb per muffin (I did half the mix and it made 9)
of that 7.4 were the sugar
obviously they are not the crazy size of some café muffins – more the size of what I would call a bun or fairy cake (olden days!!)
I am loathe to eat one just because I don’t want to eat too many – so I will get my son to try them later and let you know his verdict
he OFTEN eats muffins (I am working on him and showed him the bsd book the other day and he was very interested and keen to know more)

BS STILL HIGH
So into week nine couple stone lighter BUT my bs fasting was 7-2 and two hours after my big breakfast 7-7 ,and now taking all metformin four a day.
Back to drawing board ?
Alanhypno little dispondant ,any advice

If we have burgers/bacon butties the horses eat the bread. Having said that Freya will mug people for anything. Ice cream is a favourite and if they put s glass of beer under her nose. After all she does have a weight issue to keep up! She weighs just under a tonne! I have got quite a good thermal lunch bag so will have to remember to take it. We have a quiet month show wise as we are usually gisling but come July it is every werkend and some midweek shows through to October. Then we start ploughing matches! So 5:2 would be very handy.

Hi Alanhypno, I’m also on diabetes.co.uk and I think I read on there that fbg is not the lowest of the day despite what people on there have been told. I think overall is probably more important as in the hba1c tests. Mine are not consistent really they seem to go up and down a few days of each. So I’ve not noticed a pattern in them really – related to food.

Might because I like to eat a lot of different foods in each meal 😀

Puddle by has such a friendly name.
I will go for that one.
In bakewell, Derbyshire for a day trip.

Stop groaning with the amount of carbs in the village name.

Used to live near here.

All the quaint village shops are gone.
They are all now tea shops and charity shops…. Sad isn’t it?

Having a mill and a mouch.

Speak later
Xxxx

Oh yes, keep trying, the M&S offer is much better than the previous offer. Nice and clean environment and I think good food generally – though some might think expensive.

I swerved the WHS as they are well within the “no choice at all for a healthy snack” cohort.

We bought some good protein pots from the M&S shop, one of which I will have for my dinner.

So sorry to hear of the loss of your dad. It is always a very hard time, and I wish you and your family well. It has comforted me to know that whilst you love and talk about your lost relatives and friends, you keep them alive in this world. I do with my dad, who died in 2002, and my mum who died in 1998.

Keep us posted with the chickpea muffins!

Ditto to Barby – the forums are helpful, and non judgemental which is defintiely what I need around weight/ health struggles.

Tibetan & Beverly, I am with you on an official ‘ Day 1’ too.
I had a few trials of starting and it lasted 2-3 days then I would get sidetracked because I wasn’t in the real woutine of it and theat is really essential. So I am going to write a list here of what I will do (some of which Michael advocates) as my commitment to helping myself:

Throw / give away the remaining sugary food I have at home tonight: Jam i can give to my friend, bread can feed the birds.
Take all my raw chocolate treats to my office and lock the drawer, give my friend the key.
Get my fitbit working and start tracking steps. Do at least one 30 minute walk down to beach and walk on sand every evening (classic overeating time)
Write my food plan/ adjust it on MFP every day to keep track of cals/ carbs & read these forums /post on the ‘new starter’ thread every day.
Do alternate nose breathing when I get the urge to binge.

Keep checking in- its good to know we are doing it at the same time!!

SarahDawn xx

To be honest, I think I will stick to the poppadum with the occasional melba toast or slice of bread. Stayed at son’s flat recently to find that he had bought a large white sliced which we hadn’t tried in years. He had butter too. We found we didn’t actually like it any more, even wrapped around as a bacon sandwich. Would have thought that was one of the UK’s icon dishes! So if I am going to have bread in future it will have to be a seeded or a good wholemeal. Found out I didn’t like semi-skimmed milk at all any more, when I bought huge amounts by accident instead of skimmed. Can’t rely on anything these days, not even my own tastebuds!

interesting you were there igorasusual, as that is the same hospital I was visiting during early march where my dad was
and at the time I was doing the 5:2 diet and basically managed on fruit that I brought in during the day
although I have to say – if you had been there in the past – the new m&s café was a vast improvement to us!!
and they did have gf options
obviously I wasn’t searching out low carb at that time, although I had to avoid most things because of the calories
their gf blt sandwich was over 600cals!!!!!!!!

I did notice they did a minced beef dinner with courgette spaghetti, though I never tried it
not really what you would want early morning though!!

actually what really struck me as desperately sad was the WHS next to it that was filled with chocolates and crisps and which I am proud to say I never resorted to (even though it was a very tough time as dad actually passed away)

we were all ill with bad colds and we couldn’t find hardly anything like cough sweets or pain killers or tissues –
but If I had wanted to kill myself with chocolate – oh that was fine

anyway – I guess I digress from your original point
I am happy to join the ‘LOW CARB SNACKS’ revolution for public spaces ESPECIALLY important in hospitals, maybe

I have just baked some chickpea flour blueberry muffins
OK I know that isn’t exactly low carb – BUT – way way lower than normal muffins
if I work it out I will let you know – indeed I haven’t tried them yet so they may taste horrid of course lol!!

Hi Igorasusual,

Very kind of you to answer me, I have done some measurements, and have no goal in kg”s, but in waist measurement.
Lovely that could fit into a smaller pair of jeans.

Today is my 4th day on BSD and I was wondering about the 10000 steps, as I have been doing this for years walking my dog twice a day.
So do I have to try for 15000 steps? Wonder were to find the time. as I also do Pilate.

Doddi

Well done Lynn

Coming home from a wonderful holiday with a weight loss is something we all thought in our past would have been impossible — well done you

See you in two weeks in the 23 week club

Patrice.

Hmmm Soggy bottom or Puddleby?

Just want to reiterate to people, don’t get focused on the weight loss – as Cherry8 said, there may be oddities during the week which can throw you.

Keep an eye on the MEASUREMENTS and also judge by clothes. You may be losing inches, but not necessarily pounds.

I don’t want you to get discouraged at all if the weight doesn’t immediately drop off – it may do, but sometimes it doesn’t – go with your body and how you feel and how you look.

From a much slimmer Igorasusual, who has fit in to many more clothes and is looking MUCH SLIMMER, but is sticking at the same weight for some reason!

It surprised me, too, Frog, in the M&S cafe. We were there at 8.15am so lots of people queuing for coffee.

I had a good look for a protein pot of some kind to have with my coffee (poor OH was fasting, so he had agreed to sit and watch!), but the cafe had a display table of croissants and pastries, and the chiller cabinet had sandwiches and wraps – but no breakfast protein + low carb available at all.

And then they made it worse with the free biscuit!

Mad isn’t it – surprised at the M&S one, they do have healthy stuff among their ranges. UCH in London has a costa coffee – with free cookie with every hot drink last time I was there.

I am impressed with the number of chains starting to include low carb options. Pret, Itsu, Eat, Leon & Prezzo come to mind, and some of them have excellent websites with full nutritional info.

I’m at the end of week 3 and have lost 13lbs in total but nothing further off my waist. This week has been stressful at work but I’ve coped despite wanting cake! For the first time someone commented that I’d lost weight which was a huge boost! My BF has also now started the BSD although not the Fast 800 so we’ve been supporting each other, it’s good to have her onboard! Are you weighing everyday?

Great to have a supportive response 😊

Well week 3 was a mixed week for me, another 2lbs lost but really wanted cake!

This week has been stressful at work and I’ve been thinking about food a lot, I opted for some strawberries and cream instead of cake and that seemed to do the trick! I’m also not sleeping well and the tiredness has left me wanting a quick energy boost. I’m sure this phase will pass.

How is everyone else doing?

After seeing my success on the BSD (focused on losing weight, but not Type 2), OH – who IS Type 2 – has decided that there may be some merit in trying to come off Metformin. He had a high blood sugar reading of 9+ just ahead of an operation in April, which might have jeopardised the op actually taking place, and he’s come to the conclusion that fewer pills could be a good thing.

So, he started on the BSD on 26th May (though higher calories than the 800), just after a blood test when he’d tried a few days of restricted carbs, but on a very unplanned basis. We went along to the Doctor together, with the BSD book in hand if required, and found that the blood sugar was a little better – though still too high – at 7.3.

He explained to the Doctor what he’d started and said he wanted to work towards reducing his metformin by this low carb diet, and asked for her support in monitoring the effects and judging when/if he could stop the tablets.

No adverse response from her – she simply replied: ‘I expect you’re feeling much better already, and much livelier, aren’t you?’, which made me think she was on a low carb diet herself – how else would she know the amazing ‘lifting of the fog’ effect of weaning yourself off the refined carb load?

And she has agreed to put the blood tests in on a monthly basis and review with him afterwards, to see how it’s all going.

How great is that! No need to argue the point, no need to wave the book about, just complete acceptance and good wishes for the journey. 🙂

glad the granola recipe worked well!
Just as well you weren’t rushing out to work with the breakfast fiascoes – but that’s what weekends are for.

I just snacked on a slice of vogel toast – I put the remains of the loaf in the freezer when I started BSD. I only had one slice, with butter, and it was delicious, and should be easier to still manage less than 50g of carbs. Pre BSD it would have been at least two, and probably with marmalade or cheese. No raging desire to stuff more – and I think I actually felt hungry before I had it – bit of a first for me!
I had poached egg and asparagus for breakfast, which was less than 90 calories; low calories not by design, it was just what I fancied. Most days my breakfast is around 200-250. I’m about to go out, and it seemed too early for lunch, should be fine through til about 3pm now.

Have a good day

Hi Doddi – good luck on your journey!

Just want to add that it’s really important to do some measurements and/or photos, as I’m continually finding that measuring weight loss is unreliable, and can discourage you if you’ve got a weight target and focus on that.

I’m losing inches all over (just got into another too-small pair of jeans this morning), but weight doesn’t seem to match necessary. And someone here recently posted that she’d not lost the pounds she’d thought, but had gone down 3 dress sizes.

So really do those measurements and you WILL see the difference. If the scales agree, then great, but if the inches are going who really cares?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/06/09/low-fat-diets-and-exercise-are-pointless-for-losing-weight-warns/
Lord McColl, emeritus professor of surgery at Guys Hospital in London, warned in The House of Lords that current health advice to avoid fat was ‘false and misleading’ and was fuelling the obesity epidemic.

The list of foods to avoid, at the bottom, which includes EVERYTHING LISTED AS LOW FAT is so contrary to the advice we’ve all had for years (and how difficult have people here said it is to find full fat yoghurt on a supermarket shelf in the UK), that it’s astounding.

Are we finally on the cusp of a breakthrough? I’m certainly not the only one here looking at people in general and thinking how much fitter and happier they would be on less refined carbs. I was in the JR Hospital in Oxford yesterday, accompanying OH to an appointment, and the food on offer in the M&S Cafe -patronised by staff and patients alike – was diabolical.

Free biscuit with my coffee, and all the breakfast options were refined carbs, or low fat dairy. No protein pots in the chilled offer either in the cafe (although there were some good ones next door in the M&S food outlet). What hope do the stretched and stressed staff have to make good choices? Or, indeed, the patients and their relatives?

I think there’s a fortune to be made in low-refined carb snacks/small meals and cafes and restaurants (though simply serving good fresh food) could make a mint from advertising themselves as low-carb, and nutritional elements counted.

Shall we try and crowd fund a new chain?!

To Brett & Lynne.

Thanks for you respond.
Congratulation to you both with your big weight loss.
Doddi

Hi science Monkey I hate rowies I never liked them! I was brought up further north in Petehead and for reasons unknown they call them ‘cookies’ there! I now live south of Aberdeen 30 miles or so. I Don’t enjoy city living prefer the country!

Well done for restricting your rage to a bag of nuts, I think in some ways there is still achievement in there rather than failure! And woohoo on the scales moving! May those numbers plummet to the depths of healthyness!

Hi Beverley your post struck a chord with me, re I also don’t do so well when not coming here daily and reading the forums, which do really encourage and inspire me, so thanks everyone.

I had a week off on holiday and still kept the calories down, but did eat more carbs, also exercised a lot more. I haven’t weighed since (it would demoralize me to find weight gain) but I don’t feel that much fatter. I got back on it for 3 days at work, find it easy then. Weekends are harder and this afternoon I’m accompanying a friend for an alpaca experience which I know includes a cream tea!!!! I love alpacas, and also scones. I will have a brunch before I go, cheese and spinach omelette, and try to keep to one small scone, and a smear of jam, with lots of cream.

In reality I don’t think I can avoid these situations in my life, so must so the best I can. When not socialising I make a deal with myself that I will be really low carb. I have found my appetite as decreased a lot, no way I’d eat two scones now. Off to drink some more water, it does help but is easy to forget to do. Good luck everyone.

Hi frog! yes I had some last night and ended up with some this morning. it is yummy but need to be strict about the portion!

Breakfast was eventful… I couldn’t do a shake as I like a bit of vanilla extract and its run out. Then I thought I would try the coconut paleo porridge recipe I posted the other day but it didn’t go well. It seems one can’t make it in a small blender like mine… it jumps out and gets everywhere burning your hands on the way! (I’m fine no damage) I probably could do it with the stick blender in a bowl but by then with bits everywhere I couldn’t have said how much of what was left in it 🙁 so I decided to try fage and granola. It was nice but not as nice as I hoped 🙁

I think I will stick to having the granola on its own or like I did last night with a couple of chopped berries – it was a lovely snack like that!

Well I’ve been lazy so far today need to go get sorted and get outside to make the sandpit tent! It has all arrived now so no excuse not to get it all done!

Have a lovely day everyone 🙂

Hi Izzy,

Rowies? Next you’ll be saying “Fit like ma loon?”. I went to uni in Aberdeen (Furrybootstoon) so I know about Rowies, althought they called them butterys. I always thought of them of salty, failed croissants, but loved eating them.

So I persevered and I have now slightly dropped from my plateau (down 0.7kg in two days), but last night I got fashed over some work stuff and took it out on a big bag of mixed nuts. As binges go, it isnt too bad; not so high in carbs and I was still 1000 kcalories within the calorie burn my fitbit said. It should just delay some weight loss by a day or so based on past experience and a wee bit of metabolic theory.

I saw a lot of folk talking about breakfast. I never do breakfast anymore; just a litre of water and a strong coffee and it works for me, but not my other half, and it fits in with some metabolic studies they did on rats. If you restrict when you eat to 8 hours a day, but eat the same amount of food, in rats it lead to better fitness levels and superior metabolic markers (better glycaemic control, lower cortisol etc). But hey, horses for courses 🙂

I hope you’re all having a fandabbydosey!

Sciencemonkey (ook ook)

Captainlynne
That’s a brill set of results ,everyone should aim to carry on the life style on holiday as it is after all a life style approach not a temporary approach to good health
But those BS results are truly amazing I haven’t looked at your starting bs and would be curious how you progressed
I’m eight weeks down the line two stone lighter but still get morning readings of 7-3
And on 4 metformin a day !
I’m going to start reducing them one by one over eight weeks and monitor difference
alanhypno