Day 4:
Really busy day today! Did not have a chance to get my exercise in today, but survived a birthday dinner party filled w/ bad carbs.

Cal: 900
Lost: 1 lb & 1/2 inch off waist

Breakfast: organic vegan protein shake w/ unsweetened almond milk
Lunch: chicken “pho” w/ shirataki noodles (zero carb)
Snack: 1 hard boiled egg
Dinner: sashimi, baked flounder, sautéed green beans & bok choy

Hope all is well!

SpringHaven, it sounds like you want to live longer and not be food poisoned by eugenics freaks today. 🙂 Here in the US it is getting worse on GM foods. Even salmon is a tough one all of the sudden. Farm raised fish.

Bye now. it is 6 even for the first set with Del Potro and Johnson. Chat you later!

GO DEL POTRO! (Yes, I am not rooting for the American!)

Day 44
Thusday September 1 2016

Breakfast: None

Lunch:
1 cup cottage cheese
1 cup greek yogurt with strawberries
3 velveeta slices

Snacks: Chicken noodle soup

Dinner: 2 burgers no bun of course
carrots with hummus

This is a fun match with Johnson and Del Potro. You would think I am cheering for Johnson because he is American, right? NOT! I am a fan of the Argentinians Del Potro. I love the country, especially Mendoza. The government sucks, but the culture is amazing with next door Uruguay. I can even play a game of polo in both countries. Hell of a lot more advanced than their fellow Latino neighbors.

It is 5 even both. Come on Del potro. Make a big comeback to the Tennis sport!

The stadium is wide open now at night. No more rain. I find that the closed stadium has better concentration on the players because of the lacking of hear the planes at JFK and Lagaurdia. They had a rally of 28 in the Serena Williams game. And another one was 40 for Andy Murray. WOW! That is a hell of a long rally.

Did I say I love tennis: The Gentleman’s Sport??????

Woo hoo indeed LindaA. Many congratulations. I think all those long walks will help you stay there. 4 stone is fantastic

PrincetonianStud, that would depend very much on where you live. No GM frankenfruit here yet. I just don’t eat fruit I don’t grow myself

Unfortunately Janeycoughdrop, there’s good evidence to support just about everything. There have been several very good studies in the past couple of years that have confirmed long term reductions in BMR after weight loss so what to you give greatest credence to? For most human beings (including docs) that will be 1) whatever agrees with what you want to believe and/or 2) whatever you hear most often. Yeh, the nurses and docs know this stuff but the reality is that most folks won’t stick to it anyway. Everyone knows how to lose weight but unfortunately most of us just cant keep it off 😕

Starting our week 3 on Sunday. Go us!

Thanks Frog
I forgot to mention that I started off at 89.9kg so I’ve lost a total of 26.4kg (just over 4 stone).
Woo hoo!
Cheers
Linda

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Goodnight folks …sleep sweet xx

Hi – glad you enjoyed it
I go to the Curzon at Bloomsbury mostly – Picture Houses are part of the same group, but they’ve kept them with a separate identity – although they have a similar atmosphere.
It’s just over a mile from home, so makes quite a good walk – and with a big Waitrose next door, also very convenient.

Brillo film FROG! You could have heard a pin drop..everyoen was absorbed in it.
Do you go to picturehouse in London? We have one in Lpool and its where we usually go.Julieta was on in the Box,just like a lounge with sofas. Much nicer than the bigger screens.
Had a little drive round the Marina afterwards admiring the lights shining on the water.
Home now,ready for bed.just watching a bit of telly and having some berries and yog i saved from earlier.
Happy as a clam!
Night night,sweet dreams x

Week 3 Day 2:

Breakfast:
Lunch: Egg Salad
Dinner: Grilled chicken
Snacks: 1 glass wine
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 803
Carbs: 25g
Steps: 15543 (including 3.6km interval run)
Weight loss: 700g (61.1kg)
Fast: 16 hrs

Went to the theatre last night so treated myself to a glass of vino.

Hi ay caramba,
Thank you, I’m taking a few days off to decide what to do next. I have had a couple of days visiting, and taking granddaughters out, so haven’t done the diet, however haven’t put weight on either!
Hope you are doing well? Onwards and downwards.
Christine.

I’ll have a look at FatSecret and hopefully that’ll help me,I’ll do it on the computer rather than my phone .I haven’t had a look at the recipes on the website but will soon.Hope we will all have a good day tomorrow.I’m away to water my plants before bed.

Hi nikkiD,
How are you doing?
Christine.

Hi Christine
I’m just watching/listening to it now on iPlayer – they’re doing a trial of HIT exercise over several weeks that kicked off this evening. and looked at the beneficial effects (or not) of apple cider vinegar.

I started on 17 May so three and a half months ago – I’ve lost 15 kilos so far and about 30 to go to but me into healthy BMI territory. I’ve gone from being a large size 20 (ie M&S only), to around 16 in most things – my target is size 12 with calves thin enough to wear knee high boots!
I’ve had a few holidays and bingey weekends, and lots of plateaus along the way, but no dramatic increases. I’m certainly not as strict about it as most people, but I try and keep to 50g of carbs or lower, but sometimes hit 60 – but some days are lower so probably averages to 50g. My laxity is the reason for not losing superfast, but I’m not too bothered as long as the general direction is down.
My blood levels, after being diagnosed as diabetic nearly two years ago then rocketing up to 112 (and being told they were too high for me to join a medical trial for diabetes and diet!) are now well within normal range so that is brilliant – and I stopped taking metformin a couple of months ago.
I think that I will try and keep to relatively low carb going forward, and experiment with what works for me on keeping my weight steady.

I can see from your posts that you’ve had excellent blood results recently too – have you decided on your route forward?

Hi yowser49,
We had a good visit to Nottingham, we had lunch there, we were going to take husbands cousin and his wife out for lunch, however when we got there Tony was too ill to go out, he has Alzheimer’s and had got a kidney infection too so he was even more confused than normal, so Ann had made us egg sandwiches and pork pie, it’s a good job I had decided to take a few days to decide my next step, the good news is, I haven’t put any weight on, yet!
I see you also like Peter Kay and count Arthur strong! We love Peter Kay, and my husband can watch count Arthur strong on a loop, he has even got our daughter whois with us for a year or two onto him too!
Hope you are doing ok, keep on keeping on and all that!
Christine.

Hi orchid,
I hope my TiVo has taped it, looking forward to seeing what he has to say.
Christine.

Hi Avila,
I’m so sorry to hear about your dog, sending much love, and thinking about you!
Christine.

Hi frog,
I’m hoping that the program, trust me I’m a dr is recording on TiVo!
I’m well pleased with my results, have taken a couple of days off diet as I was visiting relatives in Nottingham yesterday, we were given egg sandwiches and pork pie! So it has been a case of needs must! I will make a decision in a couple of days, I haven’t put weight on though! so that’s a good sign.
I hope you are doing ok? How far along the road are you, and what are you going to do when you reach your target?
Good luck whatever you do.
Christine.

Great news about your healing faster Frog!
My unintended consequence is that I can now garden kneeling down on the grass instead of using a ‘kneeler’ that is raised 4 inches off of the ground with two handles either side that are 2 foot off of the ground to help me get back up. I’ve been using this for a good few years and yesterday, without thinking about it, I picked up the plant that needed planning, a trowel and hand fork and walked over to the gap, knelt down without thinking what I was going, and carried on to plant 5 plants, getting up and down with no help! it was only after I realised that I had not been able to do that for over 10 years!

As someone who succumbed to a whole cheesecake in a depressive mood (I craved *and* it was reduced) , you are are not alone.

However I have found the cravings lessened. And a majorly stressful week this week has had only limited crash – and I needed that drink! It delays things but not stop the gains, though I was aware after cheesecake day that I had to face the sugar ‘cold turkey’ anew – a good enough reason to add to the ‘resistance movement’

Day 3 done and dusted! Felt done in earlier but forced myself to go for a 2 mile walk and was pleased I did, felt much better on return. No problem with food except I used to have a banana at midday and do miss it, but I drink some water and I think having to go and get it along wih drinking it makes me forget about food for the moment.
Jooles – I will see if I can access the video re fasting. Thanks for that. I love watching diet programmes, reading books etc. My family and friends despair of me, but I find it all so interesting. They are discovering so much now. Watched ‘Trust Me I’m a Doctor’ tonight. Some very interesting bits on that.
wendyq – sorry to hear your son has been in and out of hospital, I hope he is on a more even keel now. It makes life so difficult when you have illness in the family, but sounds as if you cope brilliantly. This time round we are going to hammer this weight problem for good! We are going to use our strengths to get us through. ☆ (should be a smiley face, but where they’re hiding goodness only knows!!!) There are some really good meat free recipes on this site, but I expect you have already looked.
Natalie – sorry to hear about your blip, but 1200 cals is still very good and an hours walk, well done. Keep those positive vibes going. When hunger strikes try writing a post on here, even if you are in the midst of cooking! It will take your mind off of food hopefully and refocus you on your goals, as this forum is what it’s all about.
Hi Frog – will have a look at the FatSecret site. Tried myfitnesspal once before and we didn’t gel!
Well am signing off, time for my beauty sleep! lol!

Thanks verano, I’ll keep some on hand! Hope they subside soon 🤐

The cravings really will become less severe and less often. 10 almonds and a bottle of water or a warm water with lemon or lime in will probably do the trick. Just try to persevere for the next few days . It will get easier.

Good luck!

Thank you for all your ‘lentil’ facts and figures. My soup recipe which also has carrots and a parsnip in works out at 122 cals and 21carbs for a hearty portion, in Fatsecret, so for the moment I will still have this as a warm, quick lunch when I need ‘hearty’!!

Just spotted that MM’s Trust Me, I’m a Doctor program is back on this evening – is on now

Just had a bowl of low carb ice cream – a 30g scoop each of salted caramel and dark chocolate
Mixing them tones down the sweetness of the caramel – but I think the chocolate will taste great with raspberries!
51 calories, just under 7g of carb
Divine!

Hi – glad that you;re both loving the boat – sounds fun!

Day 14. BS 8.00 mmol/L . Two weeks are up and it has gone fast. Off to play in the boat today. I feel lighter and have more energy which is great. Hopefully, I will have a fish dinner tonight.Still off the Meds.

I hope everyone is well,

Hi all. Loving all the posts on here. They are entertaining and informative. I have completed my eating for today and it went like this:
Calories 898
Carbs: 44
Loss so far: 2lbs
Keep going guys!!

Thanks for getting back to me…I was just diagnosed with prediabetes and I know if I keep at the rate I’m going now I wind up a diabetic myself. But that’s good to hear that your doctor said to keep going very encouraging to me as well and that’s exactly what I’m going to do …just keep going and hope for better stats…

Sandralea, I have been diabetic for 11 years and have not taken the book title literally. To cure diabetes in 8 weeks would be almost a miracle. That is not to say that people who are pre-diabetic or have only been diagnosed for a couple of years have seen the condition reversed and been able to come off medication. Some diabetics are only controlled by diet so making a big change in their diet would possibly give them normal blood glucose results. I am now doing my second round of 800 calories and low carbs and I don’t think this will be my last. I have reduced my HBA1c from 8.2 to 6.6 and want to be down to 6.0 on my next test, still very much a diabetic. Maybe in a year I might see my numbers returned to normal and that is my goal.

As for my doctor, he is more than happy for me to continue, I have around 10 to 15 kgs still to lose and will continue until I get there. I don’t know if he believes my diabetes will be reversed but he has seen my health improve and knows me well enough to know I am a little terrier who has the determination and motivation to keep going.

Brilliant – thanks so much frog! I feel like I should have been able to figure that out 🙂

http://www.fatsecret.co.uk/
I haven’t tried it as an app – Verano says the pc version has more features
I started using the US version (about 6 years ago but only used it for a couple of days – its spewed out six monthly weigh in reminders ever since!

Will you keep going with 800 calories a day till you reach your goal? Is it still healthy? Does your doctor know?
I’m asking because this is day one for me and I have a long journey ahead…thanks

Hi folks, lovely to read all your amazing results and stories on these forums, they really helped me to get motivated.
I’m on day 4 now and although I’m starting to feel a HELL of a lot less bloated and I know I’m loosing weight, the cravings this aft have been off the scale! I know why, but it’s not easy to loose ’em is it?
I had scrambled egg this morning with a rasher of bacon and mushrooms/spring onion chopped in. Yum! I took a bottle of water out with a measured amount of almonds and other nuts in case I got peckish. I went out to do lots of ‘new school year’ shopping with the kids and on route I had the misfortune to go into Home Bargains, which if you haven’t got one local, is like a Poundland or quality Save…. Great for stuff like washing powder and toothpaste. Apart from the obvious aisles of sweets, the entire shop is kitted out in SUGAR. Its like someone has taken my blinkers off.At one point I was just staring and could have cried when my son came running over with a “family pack” of Maom (sugar & colouring) . I just thought, this isn’t fair you know!? It’s not cricket! I’ve felt a bit angry the rest of the day ….which in turn has turned on the comfort eating alert part of my brain. I understand we all make our own decisions on what we put in our mouths but these shops have super sized bags of everything at very low prices wall to wall. In weeks gone by I would’ve allowed myself and my son a ‘treat’ but now (and I guess this is a positive) I see it as the enemy.
Oh and re the cravings, I haven’t given in (yey!) I went on to have the chickpea soup from the book and salmon for dinner BUT if you have any tips for that “end of day-almost out of calories-God help me before I eat an entire loaf Of bread and butter-lifesaver” I’d be super grateful!x. Thanks and may the force be with you all on your weight loss and health restoring lifestyle changes xx

Can you keep going with 800 calories a day until you reach your goal? I didn’t notice him stating that in the book…is it healthy as well?
Hi…I’m a newcomer on day one…and I know it’s going to take more than 8 weeks to reach it!
Good for you for finishing 8 of them!

Thanks for the encouragement! I was so disappointed after doing so well the first month. I cheated last night and didn’t even like it. Back on it today….but I use protein shakes and protein bars quite a bit…better start on food. My book hasn’t arrived yet. So I will take recipes for now.

this site has really nice visuals of low carb fruits
http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits

they have a similar one for vegetables too – I have both printed out in colour and in clip frames on the kitchen wall.

Hi Trelawny and ladies

Sorry I didn’t reply before, I lost the thread … box ticked now 😀 It’s funny that we’re all about the same height and weight 🙂 Well done Trelawny on your fab weight loss – that’s fantastic. Mine’s a bit slower, so I’m at 13st 2 at the moment but I’ll take it!

Lunch today was salmon teriyaki on skewers with a salad and dinner was ratatouille with feta and cauli rice – yum! Though I could eat it all over again.
I agree with Frog Wendy that My Fat Secret is by far the best app for tracking as recommended by Frog – it makes tracking everything so easy – but I haven’t found a UK website only a UK app – Frog do you have a link?

I’m so determined that this time is going to be the last time that I diet as I am so fed up of gaining and losing weight. I’m hoping that the BSD will sort out my liver, pancreas, cholesterol and diabetes permanently.

Trelawny, I’m not sure if you’ve seen the video on http://www.dietdoctor.com on fasting with Jason Fung – it was reading some stuff from him that made me decide to do 16:8. I guess I won’t know if it sorts out my metabolism properly until we’re done, but there is some really good stuff on the site about it.

To sajhdr: If you eat the banana with a little nut butter (which is delicious!) it won’t affect your blood sugar as much. You can lower the glycemic response of foods by eating protein, fat, fiber, or vinegar with them. Hope that helps.

enjoy the film!
I don’t think the water content is a ‘rip off’ necessarily – just the natural water content of the meat plus some gravy. Dried food (presumably the whiskas and go cat type) is around 10% but I think the hills dry food and similar specialised diet stuff is more moist than that. Muji, my cat before Froglet, had Hills for many years but she had kidney problems from when she was about 13 – so I’m very concerned that Froglet does get adequate hydration.

Hi Verano

Waitrose’ website says 7.4g oer 100g on their dried red lentils
It states “Typical values as prepared This pack provides 12 servings” – so from a dry weight pack of 500g, that is 7.4g of carb per 42g of dry weight – so equates back to around the 17g figure that you have from FatSecret
Sounds like an occasional but not every day – although perfectly feasible to build into under 50g of carbs – I think that’s about the same as a gram flour pancake.

I remember a similar conversation on another thread, not about lentils, but another pulse, a few weeks ago.

Great news on the tops – you’ll get there withthe last one!
In my BHS bonanza last week (7 plain T shirts at £1 each!) I had a range of sizes 1 18, several 16s and a coulple of 14s -they all fit, although the 14s are a bit ‘wear with loos-ish trousers and remember to hold my stomach in’ for now

I was a bit confused on fruit myself, so did some research on the glycemic load of various fruits. Was not able to find them all– glycemic load studies are limited– but I included the ones that have been studied. This is based on standard serving sizes of each. In order of how much they raise your blood sugar, from best to worst (leaving me unclear as to why apples are said to be okay in Dr. Mosley’s book, but not melon, grapes, etc. Really, though, compared to grains, no fruits are bad, especially in moderation (i.e., not a whole bowlful of fruit salad, or at least blunt the blood sugar response with some nuts or cheese or something).

berries
apricot
grapefruit
plum
kiwi
cantaloupe
peach
grapes
pineapple
watermelon
pear
mango
orange
apple
banana

Carter! Ilove that name for a cat!
I do a lot of catsitting for various friends,love it.
Yes we too worry Ziggy doesnt drink enough..he’s been drinking more tho on his special food coz i guess its moresolid,less watery than his usual felix..which he still loves to have occasionally..its a rip off tho isnt it if its that much water! But its pretty cheap too
Waitrose do some nice terrines..zig doesnt like the fish ones but likes the poultry.
I always have sticks for him in my bag..he knows it and rummages in my bag when i arrive..makes me feel like a proper granma! 😃😃
Right.. time to get my togs on and go to see a film that comes highly recommended by my froggy friend! X

I think part of the answer with lentils is the difference between cooked weight and dry weight. If I cooked 100g of dry lentils it would make a mountain of cooked so we would never eat that much. The recipe I have for my dip is 100g dried but I think as a small serving it would make about 10 servings, so only 6g of carb. All this science, think I need a lie down.

Hey Verano

Sorry about the top … I can’t help with that 🙂 but I think you are probably alright with your lentils… According to Google net carbs on 100g of lentils is 12g per 100g (20g – 8g fibre) https://g.co/kgs/JOadtO

I’m not really counting carbs too much as I figure 800 cals is hard enough as it is but am just choosing to avoid anything starchy… In saying that I do have lentils and beans and neither seem to be hurting me too much so far. M&S has a lovely Spicy Lentil Soup which has 150cal with net carbs of 9.3g for 1/2 a pot.

Anyway, hope that helps.

One of my friends cats, Carter, got very large before he was diagnosed with a bladder problem and but on a special food.
No return of problems for Froglet since the other week – she is dreadful at never seeming to drink water, although there’s always some there for her, so particularly in the hot weather I’ve been adding water to her food so that she is less likely to get dehydrated again.

Apparently, she needs 60ml of water per kilo per day – so 240ml of water
canned food is around 75% water content – so 300g of food is 225ml of water
I can add about 50 ml of water per can, so that means that she should have enough fluid – along with the odd dish of cat milk.

She doesn’t get notably skinnier or lighter when we go to the farm – the only time I noticed that was when she spent a week at a cattery – we have a cat sitter now!

Soooo sad … On two counts

Love lentil soup and have a lovely recipe. Since seeing your post sunshine-girl I’m bemused! Yes I’ve seen red lentils at 60g of carbs in 100g then I’ve seen cooked values that when worked back to raw are much lower. I use 500g in my soup, 8 servings, but using Fatsecret sainsburys raw red lentils there are just 17.5g per 100g.

So who knows. Think I may just keep eating the soup occasionally and forget the carbs other than those in my recipe according to Fatsecret.

No 2 ….. tried on a top tonight that I was sure would fit ….. tried 4 skimpy tops on earlier this week and three out of the four were great! The one I tried tonight is still too tight !!! Never mind will just have to try harder!