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  • posted by  Aliba on This has to work for me
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    Having a bit of a celebration! Have just been to have bloods done….lovely health care assistant who is already recommending the 5:2 to people and was really interested in the results of BSD. Will get blood results in 2 weeks so fingers crossed. My BP was so good she checked it again!!!
    I thought my weight loss had slowed so hadn’t weighed for a few days but when I stepped on her scales I had lost a total of 12 pounds in three weeks on the 800.
    Have dropped 22lbs since I last saw her in May and 30lbs since I got my fit bit last January (it just gave me a certificate)
    Feeling amazing, got into a size 16 dress yesterday and haven’t done that since 1989.
    2 stone to go and I will be normal weight for my size
    Have tried every diet in the world but this is a way of life now!
    Good luck to you all and stick with it believe me I haven’t been a saint on this but the kind of food I eat or don’t eat has completely changed

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    It’s great isn’t it Cherrianne, all these people passing on their tips and recipes to each other.
    I just wish that this had all happened 20 years ago, I wouldn’t be in the state I am now if it had.

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Hold on a minute
    This is the 8 week blood sugar diet aimed mainly at diabetics !
    If you are diabetic then you should already have it engrained in every fibre of your being – don’t eat sugar – it can kill you.
    If you’re non diabetic, it wouldn’t be a bad thing to stick to the same mantra – too much sugar is dangerous.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Jane H
    Btw, I do love these forums, they have definitely made this first week a lot more fun and they are very motivating. Auntylil was the first person I ‘met’ here and we seem to have hit it off which is great as I’ve been told before that I don’t always play nice with the other kids. But please, feel free to join in with the chat whenever you want. Have a great day!

  • posted by  Cherrianne on This has to work for me
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    Thanks for that Bill. I have happily eaten spinach pakoras without too much effect on my blood sugars and they are made with chick pea flour in the batter. I cook with chick peas often and add tinned ones to my salads. I also make loads of hummus cos my kids devour it by the bowlful. So reading the high carb content of the flour was a bit of a surprise. I guess if the body processes the carbs in it more slowly then it’s safe for me to use in moderation.
    I am very sensitive to even brown rice and whole grain wheat breads because their carb content causes quite a big increase in my blood sugar. The dietician had told me it was good to keep eating them, but it isn’t.
    Every day on this diet, and on reading the posts here, I learn more about managing the diabetes than I have in the two years since I was diagnosed.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    I don’t think I have ever had goji berries but I bet I wouldn’t like them either! I’m sure your weight gain is nothing to worry about, its probably water retention from that cheeky voddy or maybe just part of your natural hormonal cycle. There is no way it is fat though because you simply haven’t consumed enough to create a pound of fat overnight. It will be back off tomorrow I bet. I almost forgot about your squat news. Did you really only do one? Or are we talking about different things? Or have you tried for two yet?? Anyway, well done, anything is better than nothing!

    So I’m chuffed I have lost 4 and half pounds this week. That’s way more than I ever lose in a week and it brings my total for 2016 up to half a stone. So just another stone and a half to go then! I’ve decided to grow my own lettuce and rocket this year. I’m not really green fingered but I reckon they should be fairly easy to grow and eat as I was put off bagged salad from the shops when I heard what their version of ‘washed’ means.

    Btw my falafel last night was bloody gorgeous!
    Have a great day.

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Hi Jane H, I’m a week into the bsd and 4 and half pounds lighter which, for me, is just amazing. But I’m the same as you (I think there are probably millions of us actually). I have been known to binge eat, for example the entire easter egg and contents in one sitting, a whole battenburg cake, an entire packet of biscuits, I could go on. I don’t really have the answer as to why I did it, I just wanted to. Sometimes I have done that after a great weigh-in so its not just depression that makes me do it. For me though, I have had to learn to forgive myself and move on. Tomorrow is always a new opportunity, and as you say, so is today. I will say this though; after a week on the bsd, it is the easiest diet I have ever done and I have lost more weight this week than I have done on weight watchers for the first 6 weeks of this year. There is chocolate in my fridge and it has never once occurred to me that I might like some. I have been very happy with some fruit and yoghurt and some days I don’t even bother with that. Like you say, small, tentative steps…

  • posted by  snackerlady on Day 5- the bad and the good!
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    Morning, it’s day 5 for me. I’ve had another bad nights sleep – restless and dreaming of cakes (no joke! Lol) the past 4 days I’ve been fine, felt ok and actually really alert. …. but this morning I feel terrible- shaky and weak. I’ve done many detoxes in the past, at least once a year and I always sleep badly on them all so that’s no different but I was not expecting to feel so rough today. I made myself a smoothie for breakfast with raw cacao and banana for a bit of a boost to see if it helps so here’s hoping. I have had an Epsom salt bath and it’s helped. I’m glad I’m not working today or I’d really be struggling 🙁
    On the plus side I’ve been really good and stuck to the plan 100% (within the guidelines but doing my own recipes) I definitely have lost weight but I don’t know how much. I’m writing this as a heads up to people that this may not be a smooth ride but it’s not impossible- hang in there! . Someone on fb has told me they felt this way yesterday so I feel better reading that. I’m now tucked up in bed with the tv remote and my fizzy water- bliss!

  • Hi guess what .? I’m exactly the same weight as you , so let’s compare notes , I’m doing a 5km walk twice a week an I’m mobile in work all day I have lost 1.5 stone but now slowed up again , was 18 stone now hovering around 16 5 , doing the 800 a day , 4 weeks into diet

  • On the whole, olive oil is better for cooking at lower temps – at high heat it can degrade and so lose its benefits and arguably then become ‘unhealthy’. There are other oils that can cope with higher temperature – nut oils or canola. If you read wok frying recipes – which are at a very high temp – they are unlikely to suggest olive oil.

    Extra Virgin can be used for cooking, but is probably a bit of a waste of money – keep this for salads and stuff and use bog standard olive oil if you’re going to throw it in a frying pan 🙂

  • posted by  Pat.Unlimited on just checking….
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    I’ve seen a few people on these forums mention the improvement with acid reflux. Mine disappeared overnight. No big surprise – I know I have it when I eat crap and don’t when I don’t! That said, I hadn’t specifically made the link with starchy carbs, but there does seem to be a connection.

  • I prefer to look at all the folk in the Med countries that I have visited over the years and who use olive oil much more than us.
    They don’t seem to have anything seriously wrong with them so I will believe that rather than some research found on the internet and probably sponsored by a food company.

  • posted by  Celsa on just checking….
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    I’m not diabetic either, just a bit overweight, and I read the book and started eating the Mediterranean style diet and the weight has been dropping off very steadily (3.7kg since 29/01. BMI now 27.2). I don’t count calories because I don’t have the patience for it, and I’m not aiming for 800 calories a day anyway, but just cutting out refined starchy carbs and eating more veg and full fat dairy instead seems to be the big difference. And the food keeps me fuller a lot longer (swapping my morning toast for an egg and tomato has been a huge help!) I rarely feel the need to snack. Also my nightly reflux, which seemed to be triggered by starches or sugars has almost completely gone.
    I can’t be very active at the moment because of a foot injury, but once that’s sorted and I’m back to walking long distances and a bit of running I will up my carb intake a little for the calories I’ll need.

    So, I recommend the book for the diet suggestions even if you’re not diabetic or prediabetic!

  • Ive always cooked with olive oil but recently become aware of information saying that it is harmful to health. Having browsed the web the information is contradictory so I am non the wiser. I assume that Michael Moseley is aware of the controversy and believes it to be safe to use given the dietary advice in his book. I would be very interested to hear people’s views. I hope to start the BSD diet next week.

  • posted by  JamesH on Week 1 complete, anyone need a 'diet buddy'?
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    Thanks Karen,
    I’ll post on this thread next week. Yes I started on a Friday, normally it’d be a Monday preceded by a weekend blow out! But I thought I’d try and take ‘control’ straight away. Good luck with it.
    James

  • posted by  Aly on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Oh dear, so many of us with the same problem! I had counseling years ago to help me deal with a traumatic childhood but was not able to address the worst part. It is all tightly shut in the box in my head but we are products of our childhood. I did weight watchers successfully for years but abandoned it when I moved over to clean eating.
    As I have mentioned I am also vegetarian. I bought Rose Elliots book, low carb veggie but to be honest am disappointed as it does not fit in with my clean eating principles. The BSD is so different from my normal eating it makes it difficult to get on with it. I agree that sugar is the real enemy and although I have siblings with type 1 diabetes I do not think I show any signs of being even pre diabetic. I am over weight but to be fair to me I am 59, had three children and six pregnancies and a total hysterectomy at the age of 44 for health reasons. So my tummy is bigger than it should be!
    I lead a healthy life on my fledgling smallholding spending lots of time outside with chickens, ducks and geese. Soon we will add bees to our smallholding. Possibly this year a pair of in milk goats for milk and cheese. I cook almost everything from scratch…today’s bread is on the go just now..so it is hard to check the calorie content. I avoid factory made food as much as possible. I am comfortable where I am and it has taken a long time to get here. At the mere mention of diet I go into sabotage mode. There is far more to life than being a size 10.

  • posted by  Jane H on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    I’ve got Sarah Wilson’s book. Thanks Janet1973 for your post – in fact I’ve just been reading/enjoying yours and antielil’s chat to each other on another forum (it is so easy to lose the thread so to speak!).

    I am with you 100% – sugar is poison. My children are bored of what they call “lectures” and I call “education” but as a family we are gradually reducing the sugar intake significantly. The trouble is, when I am in the grip of it, I go underground and stuff it in secretly. I am finding reading these forums helpful – provided I don’t sit for hours reading them, which is also easily done.

    Having stuffed my face this morning, I intend to drink lots of water with lemon, walk, fast for the rest of the day and cold turkey on the sugar tomorrow. Back to meal replacement shakes for a while, I think, as they remove the need to make any kind of food choices at all.

    Tentative steps …. thank you ….

  • I’m doing this for two reasons – one, I’m about 10kg over a “normal” BMI and have been ever since I had my youngest child (who is now 14!). Two, my husband is type 2 diabetic controlled by tablets at the moment, but neither of us are getting any younger and we both want to live to a healthy old age. The first week on the 800 BSD was tough, but I’m pleased to say I’m 2kg lighter than when I started so that’s a big incentive to continue. I did lapse a bit when a colleague brought in some birthday cupcakes, but I found I didn’t really enjoy it at all as it was way too sweet and sickly. I have found myself craving toast, but I know it’s not actual hunger, more habit.

    But now comes a bigger challenge than avoiding the breadbin – eating out.
    Has anyone got any ideas for restaurants (chains like Pizza Express/Cafe Rouge/Giraffe, etc.) where there are low carb options that I could pick? We’ve promised to take our teenagers out for a meal so I don’t want to disappoint them, or put myself in the way of too much temptation…

  • posted by  KarenH on Week 1 complete, anyone need a 'diet buddy'?
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    Hi James,

    I’m starting the diet next Thursday, I know it’s a random date but it makes sense to me! I’m reading through the recipes and I’m looking forward to starting.

    I’m glad to hear it’s working for you, if you still want a buddy next week then I’ll be here.

    All the best

    Karen

  • posted by  JamesH on Week 1 complete, anyone need a 'diet buddy'?
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    Hi all,

    Just finished my first week on the BSD, and lost 7.8lb and down to 228.4lb. Aiming to go sub 220lb (but 210lb is the ultimate target) as I do Judo and want to complete in the sub 100kg category. Good progress in the first week, but daily weight drop off slowed as per many of the other comments on the Forum. Does any one want a ‘diet buddy’ and to post weekly goals and progress towards them to keep each other motivated?

    I put the shopping list together for week 2 last night. I must say that I’m surprised at how unhungry I have been particularly after the first three days. I’m really enjoying the food, and cooking.

    Keep going for it everyone out there, I’m sure that by following this plan and lifestyle change we’ll all feel better for it.
    Cheers James

  • posted by  Janet1973 on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Sugar is an addiction, a worldwide one, much bigger than drugs or alcohol or any other addiction. Probably 90% of Brits are addicted and it starts from the very first spoon of pureed fruit that is put into our mouths as babies. So Jane, its not that you are weak; you are fighting an addiction. Two excellent books on sugar addiction and how to break it are Sarah Wilson’s ‘I quit sugar’ and David Gillespie’s ‘The Sweet Poison Quit Plan’. Both are founder members of this new diet revolution which we are now part of with bsd. We all need to think about sugar in a different way. Its not a treat, its a poison.

  • posted by  Jane H on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Thanks for reply, auntylil!

    I am brilliant at telling friends what they need to do nutrition wise etc and I have had counselling – have rattled and aired all the skeletons and am pretty well adjusted – no nasties! Just an iron willed inner saboteur. Like you, I treat myself with non-calorific goodies (!) but once I fall off the sugar wagon I plunge headlong into continual bad food choices. I need to adopt the “one day at a time” approach – the space it takes in my head and emotions is exhausting. Although no-one would have a clue as to how I struggle as I come across as one of life’s bubbly and cuddly people (aka slimmer person weeping on the inside) !!

    I know what I need to do, am desperate to do, want to do, but I just fail at DOING it –aaaaagggghh !

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    3. Stabilizes Blood Sugar and May Prevent Diabetes

    Fiber, particularly soluble fiber, not only lowers blood cholesterol levels, but it also helps slow the absorption of sugar into the bloodstream. This is hugely important both for people with diabetes and for anyone else with blood sugar challenges or metabolic syndrome. Chickpea flour has a form of complex carbohydrate called starch that the body is able to slowly digest and use for energy over time in a much more beneficial way than consuming refined carbohydrates.

    There’s a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that high-fiber diets are a much more effective type 2 diabetes natural cure than diets low in fiber. Legumes in general cause less of a rise in blood glucose than foods like potatoes or almost any sort of wheat-based flour food.

    While refined flours can quickly raise blood sugar levels and lead to “spikes and dips” in energy, chickpea flour is a slower-burning carbohydrate that doesn’t impact glucose levels as substantially, which means it has a lower glycemic load. Eating more low-glyecmic foods is a way to naturally reverse diabetes, have more energy and prevent sugar cravings

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    Chickpea Flour Nutrition Facts

    Eating more chickpeas and chickpea flour is a great way to increase your intake of fiber. And because they’re such a high source of fiber, many studies show that eating more chickpeas, and pretty much all types of legumes, can reduce the risk of coronary heart disease, obesity, diabetes and even some types of cancer.

    Chickpeas also offer a good array of vitamins and minerals. For example, they’re thought to have calcium and magnesium in an ideal ratio, a very high amount of folate — which is essential for a healthy pregnancy — good dose of energizing B vitamins like vitamin B6 and a decent amount of heart-healthy potassium. They even contain some of the powerful antioxidant mineral selenium, as well as iron and plenty of plant-based protein. Gluten-free diets are also becoming more popular, so you’ll love the addition of this flour to your pantry if you’ve recently decided to go gluten-free.

    ½ cup of chickpea flour (or besan) has about: (2)

    178 calories
    3 grams of fat
    10 grams protein
    5 grams fiber
    5 grams of sugar (no added sugar)
    101 milligrams folate (50 percent DV)
    0.75 milligrams manganese (37 percent DV)
    0.4 milligrams copper (21 percent DV)
    76 milligrams magnesium (19 percent DV)
    146 milligrams phosphorus (15 percent DV)
    0.2 milligrams thiamine (15 percent DV)
    2 milligrams iron (12 percent DV)
    0.25 milligrams vitamin B6 (12 percent DV)
    778 milligrams potassium (11 percent DV)
    3 milligrams zinc (9 percent DV)
    7 milligrams selenium (6 percent DV)

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    Hi Cherrianne
    thanks for that, I’ll have another look at the flour this weekend although I’m sure I read somewhere that the carbs are the good, hard to digest ones. Either way, it’s still a lot better than regular flour.
    I’m delighted with the way the sugar levels are dropping as that, to me, is by far the most importaant aspect of this diet.

  • posted by  auntylil on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    Hello dearie – I’ve just posted on ‘alternatives to fizzy pop’ thread about my similar state. During my first week on the diet I found rewards like cds and a book and this week expensive magazines and ordering bits for my developing garden. Perhaps you could treat yourself to a manicure, sauna, new shoes, trip… what else do you like other than food and drink? When I’ve been broke in the past I’ve found treats in charity shops, especially Oxfam book shops. A friend of mine went segwaying but fell off so that wasn’t quite so good!

    Stay safe but enjoy yourself, and I would like to know what you decide on. I am familiar also with the sabotaging thing and if you can it would be worth exploring that with a counsellor to get more insight and awareness as it is straight forward to sort it when you know more and how. If you can afford to pay to see a counsellor great but your medical centre will be able to do nhs referral if you prefer. Apologies if I come across as preaching to the converted, it’s just that this sort of thing was my professional territory.

  • posted by  auntylil on Alternatives to fizzy pop
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    Stuck! Need lots of fizzy water today as woke up feeling sickly after eating defrosted and reheated veg curry & cauliflower rice from last week. A daughter ate a portion too and she’s fine. And put on a pound – eeeek, crash bang wallop. This will be a valuable test. Perhaps it was a sly vodka and tonic that did it. I think I am okay on days when I don’t have to eat with other people or do a lot as I can then calmly apply myself properly.

    Perhaps a fasting/detoxing kind of a day will get me sorted. Treated myself to two rather lavish magazines for decorating and gardening ideas as anticipating I will feel more energetic and fit for such things within a few weeks. Starting physiotherapy tomorrow for a health issue and also had stitches out now from minor surgery two weeks ago so I am climbing out of a bit of a pit.

    I don’t like goji berries at all, I wonder what that’s about. Planning on growing blueberries along with raspberries, and also found a clematis whose berries you can eat so that will be good. Need to start potting veg seeds ready for the spring. I have a terraced garden (not large) which is ideal for me. So that’s me, day 12 on the fast 800 diet.

    Hoping you all find ways of getting over your various hurdles too. I am still heavily committed to it and to rewarding myself in ways that don’t involve calorie intake ♥

  • posted by  Cherrianne on This has to work for me
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    Wow Bill, well done! You’ve got to be so happy with that. What a dramatic change in your fasting sugars in such a short time.
    Be wary with the chick pea flour, I looked it up because I love middle eastern and Indian food. It has anywhere between 53 & 58 g carbs per 100g. Not sure why it’s so high when chick peas themselves, and hummus, are so low. I’ve looked at a few sites to double check that it’s accurate. May be someone with more knowledge will be able to tell us the science for it.
    Waiting to hear what this week’s loss is, you are doing so well!

  • posted by  Jane H on Catastrophic eating emergency support!
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    SOS! I have spent years falling off the diet wagons, scraping myself back on and falling even further each time I fall.

    I was /am so convinced that this blood sugar diet is my way forward but after the initial honeymoon period my eating and thinking goes beyond catastrophic.

    In these modern times of self analysis I recognise that I self harm with food, especially sugar, and I am literally desperate to just DO what I need to do but I sabotage myself the whole time.

    Any help / ideas / miracles anyone??

  • posted by  PescoVeggieDownUnder on day 1, Hello everyone!
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    Hello fellow BSDers,

    I started on Monday 15 February and today is day 5. So far, so good. I find VLCD easy to do as I am one of the lucky ones who doesn’t feel hungry or deprived. The recipes in the book are fabulous and so tasty, although very time consuming to prepare. I have no idea how anyone follows it to the letter if they are working full time. I also found it amusing to buy 6 red capsicums this week and I’ve eaten them all to myself! Moreover, as a pesco-vegetarian, I’ve had to adapt the meat recipes to Quorn products and as a result, I’m eating a lot of it.

    Tonight I’m having foil-steamed King George Whiting (a small local fish here in Australia which is sustainable and sustainably harvested and named after none other than the former King of England) bought fresh from the best fish and chip monger in Melbourne, with green beans but sans the coriander (I cannot abide the fresh stuff). And what a shame I can’t have the chips! 😉

    I’ve found both my Wednesday and today’s workout at the gym (which includes HIT aka Fast Exercise) unusually hard going. I think it’s a combination of recently upping the level on the Power Mill (stair master) and the reduction in calories and carbs.

    I’d love for this diet to be translated into a vegetarian version (Michael, are you reading these posts?). Thus, I’d like to thank both Aly and Essentially Jane for the low carb vegetarian book recommendations. I will definitely check them out.

    All the best to everyone. I hope each and every one of you reaches your goal.

  • posted by  Bill1954 on No weight loss happening?
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    gateofheaven after reading some of the posts on here about health professionals with bad attitudes, it’s refreshing to read that somone else, like myself, has a GP who is supportive of them.
    Your story is a fine demonstration of what can be achieved even with minimal exercise.

  • posted by  MikeH on 6 weeks in and it's working for me
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    6 weeks ago my fasting blood glucose score was 6.7, so well on the way to type 2 diabetes. Using the Mediteranean diet and strict calorie counting, I’ve lost a stone (still need to lose more), and my score has gone down to 5.5!

  • posted by  Bill1954 on Easy lunches advise
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    I made a big pan of chicken broth with barley and good vegetables, portioned it out and froze the containers.
    Now I just have to pick up a container from the freezer each morning (Got lentil soup in there as well now)

  • Last night I was still really hungry after tea and thought I’d have an Oxo drink – was horrified I didn’t have any! Marmite hadn’t occurred to me before, so I looked on the label. I thought it said one teaspoon was 35 calories or something according to the jar, so I had a cup of tea instead.

    Maybe I was reading it wrong, though, as have just Googled this, and it seems 4g (not quite a teaspoon – and not loaded up) is 10 calories – this could easily double if you don’t let the excess run off the spoon first, though.

    Slightly fewer calories in Bovril, but not enough to make a difference if one is preferred/available over the other. High in sodium however, but then so is Marmite.

    Oxo has 15 calories per cube – seems higher put portion size easier to control. Also loads of sodium.

    So, it’s the salt/sodium you need to look out for. In my case, a mug of tea is only about 20 cals as I only take a little milk and there’s no salt, so that’s another option to fill a hole in a warming way.

  • posted by  malkay on Slow Weight loss
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    Morning, Grumptoglam. Thank you for your reply. I’m just off to work, but quickly googled ‘whoosh effect’ and scanned through the article. It looks quite informative, and reassuring, so thanks for that. Just have to keep going, and hope the tape measure tightens soon!!

  • posted by  Bill1954 on This has to work for me
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    I wasn’t expecting anything dramatic this week as I hurt my back on Monday so exercise has been a no no. I’m also getting serious puppy dog eyes from our Shih Tzu as she is missing her long night time walks.
    Weigh day tomorrow so we’ll see but I’m delighted to report that after hovering between 6 and 7 all week, my sugar reading this morning was 5.8 and, as the whole point of this diet is to get the blood sugar down and try to reverse the diabetes, I have to be happy with that.
    Going to source some chickpea flour this weekend as I’ve found some nice low carb recipes for it.

  • posted by  Charliee on Easy lunches advise
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    The beetroot falafel are indeed lush… I packed up the no carb ploughmans for my oh today and yesterday we had the Mexican platter.. Its not too tricky to get something together but hard to find something outside the house so it is requiring that extra effort if actually planning and preparing something

  • posted by  GrumptoGlam on Slow Weight loss
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    Hi Malkay,
    I’ve had a very similar experience. 3stone to loose. 6lb came off the first week and not an oz in weeks 2&3… I stuck with it and now in week 4 im 3lb down… As ‘motherofthebride’ mentioned the ‘whoosh effect’ I googled it and this might help you stick with it..

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/797688/experience-with-the-whoosh

    Your body will let go of the weight sooner or later so keep going! One morning soon you’ll be thrilled you did. 😉

  • posted by  Essentially Jane on day 1, Hello everyone!
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    Hi Blackspot,
    I think this is awesome. I used to work loads of shifts and getting through the night can be really difficult without nibbles and snacks- was for me anyway
    Keep up the good work.

  • posted by  theblackspot on day 1, Hello everyone!
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    Hi all, I’m on my first 12 hour night shift on the diet.
    I was getting quite stressed today at the thought. As I woke up at a normal morning time, as I’ve been on earlys if feels like a very long day. The OT cooked a really nice dish of chicken Breast with a wodge of feta in it, cooked in a tomato garlic sauce.about 350kc each for dinner at 5pm.
    It’s now 3.30 in the morning and I’m on lunch eating egg salad. It’s not been the hunger marathon I thought it might be, and that’s despite me chosen today to start running!

  • posted by  gateofheaven on No weight loss happening?
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    Because i see this as a unique opportunity to do 800 calories for 8 weeks – and only that according to my very knowledgeable doc, I am taking this to the Nth degree. I’m weighing everything, counting carbs (only in the beginning), making sure i have 50 grams of protein and some fat with each meal. I was clearly in ketosis after 3 weeks and cutting out porridge. Each body is different – so everyone’s reaction to specific foods will be different. After the 8 weeks, i’ll go to two days a week for the other 90 pounds I want to lose. My medical history dictates that i do the 5/2 afterwards according to my doc.

  • posted by  gateofheaven on No weight loss happening?
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    Hi Penny and toofattorun. I too, cannot find the Links that Penny is offering.

    For toofattorun: I cannot exercise at all. Accident recovery. I have been on the diet since Jan 10th. Have lost 23.4 pounds, 4″ inches around my waist. Blood sugars went from 112 to 74 this last week.

    I had to cut out the porridge and tough out the ketosis in the beginning. It worked! My body is now burning fat instead of protein and carbs. When the body burns fat, the mind clears, the emotions even out, the blood sugar does down, blood pressure goes down, the veins and arteries become more supple. It is worth the effort and discomfort to get there. I eat between 30 and 50 carbs a day. I add fat (although not much on 800 calories! – about 40 calories each meal) to each meal, eat 50 grams of protein a day. For me (and every body is different) I add legumes to my evening meal for carbs, at the suggestion of my doc. I sleep better with them.

    I have multiple autoimmune illnesses and pituitary insufficiency, which means i do not produce most hormones, and now the accident recovery. I too have fibromyalgia, which is getting better with the diet. I have excellent physician support and knowledge so I can do this. But as my doc and I discussed, I had to be willing to be uncomfortable. The blog support has been so necessary for me.

    I check my blood sugars constantly throughout the day because dieting can set off the autoimmune pancreatitis that I have, necessitating extra prednisone, which makes me hungry as a goat. But the weight loss has been motivating, just as Dr. Mosley said it would be.

    If i can do this, truly you can.

    As a friend from India said to me once, “You Westerners have it very easy. When we turn on the lights, maybe we have light, maybe we don’t. When we turn on the water, maybe we have water, maybe we don’t. If we want rice, maybe the store has it, maybe it doesn’t. If someone is sick, maybe we can get them care and maybe can’t and they die. We know that life isn’t easy and we’ve built the skills to deal with difficulties.” I took her words to heart and have lived by them ever sense; learning bit by bit how to handle “hard”.

    Be kind to yourself, be gentle, be compassionate to yourself. This is an experiment and it works. Do look into full fat milk products to help you feel full – Dr. Mosley has an excellent paper on it in these blogs. He also says eggs for breakfast – i wasn’t an egg fan, but believe me, i am full after eggs! (i add lots of good greens and other low-carb veggies some days).

  • posted by  Anonymous on No weight loss happening?
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    Hi Penny,
    I get what you’re saying but I can’t really exercise every day because I have fibromyalgia and I get so physically exhausted. Also it says in the book that the meals are satisfying and that you don’t get hungry afterwards or feel the need to snack but my friend and I felt both those things. We were eating porridge but were not eating any bread (nor crackers, ryvita or pittas), potatoes or bananas or other tropical fruit. We did have some brown rice but Michael said that was OK. And I drink water constantly because I’m thirsty all the time due to my diabetes! I take a bottle of water everywhere with me! I don’t like normal tea or coffee – I only drink herbal tea, so I really don’t understand it. We both realise that we have gone back to the beginning by eating chocolate but we were so angry and frustrated we didn’t care at that point. Thank you very much for your support and your kind message of encouragement and advice 🤗. I’m afraid I can’t find the ‘useful links’ that you mentioned as I have no idea how to find the thread 😮! Please help! Must be getting old 🙄!

  • posted by  Rubbu on Davina recipe not good?
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    Just found this on http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/low-carb-food-list.html
    Low carb veg…..
    Alfalfa Sprouts
    Any leafy green vegetabl
    Asparagus
    Avocado
    Bamboo Shoots
    Bean Sprouts
    Beet Greens
    Bell peppers*
    Bok choy
    Broccoli
    Brussels sprouts
    Cabbage
    Carrots*
    Cauliflower
    Celery
    Celery root
    Chard
    Chives
    Collard greens
    Cucumbers
    Dandelion greens
    Dill pickles
    Garlic
    Kale
    Leeks
    Lettuces and salad greens (arugula, Boston lettuce, chicory, endive, escarole, fennel, mache, radicchio, romaine, sorrel.)
    Mushrooms
    Olives
    Onions*
    Radishes
    Sauerkraut (watch for added sugar)
    Scallions
    Shallots
    Snow Peas
    Spinach
    Sprouts
    Summer squash*
    Swiss chard
    Tomatoes*
    Turnips
    Water chestnuts
    * Limit amounts of these vegetables, as they are higher in carbs.

  • posted by  malkay on Slow Weight loss
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    I lost 5 lb in week 1, 2 in week 2, and nothing so far this week. I would be happy with half a stone in 3 weeks, except that I still have lost nothing from my waist measurement. In fact I think I gave increased by about half an inch!! Everyone else seems to be loosing inches rather than pounds. I am worried that my body doesn’t seem to be letting go of the dangerous stuff. I don’t need to lose weight from anywhere else as I’m very apple shaped, but not excessively heavy (started at 10 st 4 at 5′). Any ideas anyone?