Hi all / TP

So I’ve spoken to a private hospital and whilst I can’t afford a private consultation at the moment , they did say that the C-peptide tests can be done for £63 via a GP referral.

Does anyone know if the results would allow the GP to see if I am actually T2, or 1.5/MODY/LADA?

I’ve lost half a stone so far and into week 5 of the 800 cal diet, it’s defo getting easier – I’m now 9stone12 and BS’s are ok-ish, still fairly high though seeing as i’m not eating alot and exercising regularly. Last Hba1c was 74 which is an increase to what it was at the start of the diet so I’ve no idea what’s happening!

Thanks julia, much appreciated! I’m definitely taking life VERY easy and so is he! X

I am actually a Pescetarian (don’t eat meat but fish I do) and will be aiming for “natural” food so to speak no shakes. Bill I will send out some menus incl gram flour spiced ones, soon as put together. I’m starting to starve thinking about is !

Great start Catgirl and a great attitude too.
We can all get through it together and we can all achieve a healthy diabetes free lifestyle. At least that’s my game plan and if I have to keep trying for a year, I will.
Ok you haven’t done blogs like this before, but like everyone else, every time you post something positive, you are leaving a legacy on the forum that will encourage new starters for as long as you can imagine.
It isn’t what you post, it’s how many times it’s read and by how many people, so post away.

Sue, try quinoi as a rice substitute, not too bad at all.

Hi both thank you for the welcome. I have been making a menu plan too I was going to follow the Plan in the back of the book but some of the foods I don’t like lol and some are for 4+ servings unless they can be frozen etc. . So will do a mix of food and shakes found a low carb low sugar protein shake. So will have 2 shakes and an evening meal for the first 2 weeks and see how I go from there.

Oo hoo a spice expert !!!
Looking forward immensely to seeing some recipes from you
Get writing, please don’t keep our taste buds waiting too long, and if you know any gram flour recipes apart from soca or bhaji’s please let us know.

Hello everyone. The more the merrier – we keep each other going with different tips and encouragement.

I would love a dog, but I have a phobia of dog poo. I live in a nice area with plenty of places to walk, but also plenty of dog walkers who don’t pick up their dogs mess! This could be connected with my “walking with a purpose” mentality. I maybe need to have a reason to go where I might encounter it.

My husband pointed out that since my Mum went to hospital I have been walking more. I walk from the car to the hospital ward and go on various errands to the hospital shop and café to pick up drinks and magazines for her.

I had stewed blackcurrants with sweetener with my porridge this morning and it was lovely.

Really enjoyed my hummus at lunchtime and my stuffed peppers at teatime (first time I’ve stuffed a pepper).

Thought that cous cous would be a good alternative to rice until I found out it is made from wheat – I thought it was a pulse – doh!

Day 25 weight 10st 7lb
Blood sugar 10.1

Looking forward to my hummus and veg for lunch and stuffed mushrooms for tea. 😇

I bring good news BSD buddies!
I am in week 5 and this morning a momentous thing happened – I reached my first weightloss goal! 2.5lbs came off (literally overnight!) and I have lost 15lbs in just over 4 weeks. This is the lightest I have been in at least 4 years I think!
Really pleased I stuck with it – and thanks for all the helpful messages – it is genuinely really great to re-evaluate and hear all your hints and tips.
I’d definitely say for anyone hitting that 2-4 week plateau, keep calm – it will happen!

How is everyone getting on at the moment? xx

Dear Lucia, my hubby and I started the B S D on Monday 11th March, we are on day 3 today and doing well, I started out I am ashamed to say at 16 stone 7 lbs and I am 5′ 6″. I was starting to burst out of my size 20 (uk) clothes but am determined to beat this disgusting me for good. Not wallowing in self pity but for once a self realisation that I am in control now and what I weigh and feel like is all down to me. We can all do this with each other’s support! I have already lost 5lbs and feel pumped. I have only taken a few steps on a long journey but one step at a time! We are both high risk pre type 2 and must stop this slide if we want to enjoy the rest of our lives with any quality. Never done blogs like this before. – it feels like I am sharing my private diary with the whole BSD world but no use hiding the truth about where I have been, what is important is where I, hubby and the whole BSD community is going. Good luck and look forward to sharing our journeys.

Will do Bill Thanks. I’m looking forward to building my weekly Menu now. I actually run an Indian catering business so will be tempted to spice up the 800 Cals a little! 🙂

This is compulsive reading, Lucia! Have now signed up to be notified of replies in this thread too. My inbox is looking horrendous, but it gives me a belly laugh or several reading your posts when my day is not going so well. You are nailing this, the scales just haven’t realised yet what is going to be hitting them – a whole lot less of you, that is for sure.

HI Lynne – no doubt I will get some hassle, everyone is entitled to different views. Like you, I feel that this is a change for life. I am having no issues doing 5 k runs on this diet a few times a week, and make sure to load myself with a wide variety of veg as well as protein/fibre and a small amount of sensible carbs. People like you have inspired me to continue when I have been at low points, so I will stick around like you and the evidence of our success will be there for those that want to take note!

Hey Silver
you have it all wrong, you don’t want sugar, it want’s you but it is now just a memory that sometimes will come back like a recurring nightmare
Treat it as such 😉

Hi Chris59
very similar to me, it just works
Great to hear about the vast improvement in your blood sugar.
Like I keep saying, the diet works, no need to overthink it.

Hi
I don’t use any apps but there are plenty of folk who do.
Stand by for information overload 😀 In fact, if you click on resources at the top of the page and then Helpful products, you should find what you need.

I’ve been following the basic principle of the 8 week diet but have not been limiting myself to 800 calories a day, or even calculating them. I’ve been Type 2 for 5 years and in the past 2 years have struggled with blood glucose levels regularly above 10. in December last year my HbA1c was 91 way too high although an improvement on the 116 the previous year.
I started the low carb diet at the end of January 16 and by the end of February my HbA1c was 62 after less than 4 week on this diet.
The nurse has stated that I should revisit in another month to check on blood sugar progress and hopefully review my Gliclazide from 1 tablet twice a day to zero.
My basic principle is no bread, no potatoes, no pasta and no rice. Meals consist of meat or fish and vegetables or salads, snacks are fruit or raw carrots and celery, with nuts in the evening as required. I have also lost weight and my blood pressure has improved.
Tins of tuna, salmon and other fish either in a salad or a wholemeal wrap (the only exception to my no bread principle)
I am so happy that this is working as I was becoming frustrated and disillusioned with my health prospects.

Thanks for the welcome Bill! I am now planning for success. If you can suggest any tools or aids for pre-planning the the 8 weeks I’d appreciate it. Otherwise I am building a diary, full menu programme from your book and other source, and stats recording. Just wondering if there is a single “tool/aid” that can contain all this?

Im keeping an eye on it. On the 5/2 I only do h.i.t on the 5, not the 2 fasting days even then just 10 mins. Otherwise just walking and 20 mins gentle exercise biking while listening to music or watching t.v.

I think there may be a difference in the way calories are counted in different countries. Sometimes it’s done as net carbs, which means that the cals from the non digestible fibre that goes through the system are subtracted from the total. I think in the UK net carbs are used and in the US not. Someone correct me if I’m wrong?

Well done Bill on your great results and in advocating the diet. Fines and toes crossed for Friday xx

Hey welcome to the forums you 2
There is loads of help advice and recipes available on here but if there is anything you need to know or can’t find, just give a shout.
There is usually someone who has the answers and if not, we’ll do our damndest to find them.
You will both be amazed at how fast this works without you feeling any hunger after the first few settling in days.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Hello Jay?
I’ve just completed the 8 week BSD book and determined to reverse my Type 2! I’m now getting prepared and planning for my start. I’m trying to book meet with Dr but 3 week wait time! So I’m ringing daily to get cancel slot! What planning and prep are you doing to start the Diet? When do you plan to start? Regards, Nalin

I think it’s only 8 weeks partly because of the psychology, where it’s easier to stick with it if you’ve an endpoint, and partly because 800 is a bit low and you could lack nutrients after a while. But there are plenty of very active people who live permanently on low carb diets, for example, Dr Michael Eades and his wife (whose blogs are worth reading under proteinpower.com) and a retired vet whose blog goes under the name Hyperlipid, also worth reading. Dr E is American, Hyperlipid lives in East Anglia. I’ve found their commentaries on the science really interesting. Hyperlipid says he is constantly on the border between ketosis and out of it, which doesn’t worry him but is not the usual style. He eats what he likes but no wheats, fewer other grains and loads of veg, fatty meat and fish, plus dairy and eggs. Pretty much what we’re on here but more of it.

I have to admit we have done this without really thinking about it too much, on the grounds that if it was too scientific, and thought intensive, we’d give up. Haven’t used any of the recipes from the book, but took in the principles. Just went to a later breakfast (retired – so we can) and an earlier evening meal, and left out lunch. Spinach (or mushroom, pepper, onion) and cheese omelette, a splash of olive oil, and some pine nuts, followed by fruit, a breakfast fave now.
Meals are mainly the “old” ones but missing out the potato, rice, bread, etc. Bol no spag etc. Chuck in some chickpeas or butter beans. Meat or fish with a load of veg or salad. Chop an apple, some yummy Lidl Greek yoghurt, with their milled linseeds as a topping, for a “pudding”. Tried cauliflower rice – one liked it, one didn’t.

Can anyone recommend an app for iPhone and/or iPad that is for UK foods.

Tried a few, but they seem more for US foods.

Hello Matrika,

I’m late to the party as normal! read your opening post and don’t know if you’ve found the info you need or not. Here’s the link to Michael’s other diet – the original 5.2 where you can find your BMI etc https://thefastdiet.co.uk/how-many-calories-on-a-non-fast-day/

Thanks for saying that Julia18togo.

I said that on the Facebook group and was attacked. Told anyone doing that would become anorexic and die. The writer apparently knew someone who had gastric band surgery, maintained loss for a while then started on the calorific foods and gained again.

Guys forget to mention
Use a thin spatula and get them off the tray as soon as they come out of the oven.
Forget, and they don’t just stick, they become part of the tray.

Good bloods, Robert! I’ve been advised somewhere to avoid too much exercise while lowering blood sugar (on the 800 for 8 weeks). We don’t want a hypo.:-)
My walks and swims are pretty gentle.

I used to drink lots of Diet Coke/Pepsi and Pepsi Max. Then less of that more of other sugar-free soft drinks.

While I was away last week the only sugar-free drink available was Diet Coke. I had one and that was ok. I had the second, that was ok. But the third made me feel ill. So the only alternative was water. I do prefer fizzy drinks to still ones, do now I’m drinking lots of sparkling water straight from the fridge.

Great news Bill.

Well said Hashimoto.

Thanks Bill

Now have coconut flour so will try this when I get some time. 😃

Love the strawberry flatbread idea, will try that at the weekend.

Ami – i should add I have similar situation to you too. As I think many have pointed out, those who have gastric band surgery have to stick to VLCD so I don’t see it can be dangerous to stick with it, albeit with a slight increase in calories, so long as we are getting a good balanced diet and including plenty of veg. Not to mention all that liquid!

Well done for getting as far as this – great achievement!

Great advice Bill. In the past I’ve tied myself up in knots (I know, picture in head LOL) trying to combine ‘expert’ advice with major slimming clubs or the latest diet book.
It did not work.

This time I’ve gone with the KISS principle and made it as easy as possible.

I write everything in a small notebook I can keep with me. I do use pre-packed deli products (checking ingredients) which are a life-saver when I’m too busy or tired to cook. Boiled eggs are always in the fridge. And cheeses (25g at a time). I’ve discovered a great hummus in M&S – again, 25g at a time.

Ami – I am doing as Hashimoto is for another few weeks, and then continue as she suggests.

Judith – sounds like a very rough few days for you. Had noticed your silence, and glad to see you back. Do take good care of yourself (and son!) and don’t be tempted to do too much – it does take a lot of time to get back to normal after these nasty bouts.

Bill I think you already have her onside! What amazing results! I am so pleased for you – it’s above and beyond what I thought was possible. 🙂
Bill you won’t derail the thread by telling us your personal problems – we all want to support you.

Bill – great news for you re the eye appt. My dad went through all the eye ops, bleeds galore, etc, etc, so I have more than usual understanding of what this must be like. We went through a whole summer when he couldn’t read at all, even with magnifying glasses. I am so pleased for you that things are looking up on that front at least.
Be kind to yourselves this week… a tough time but we are all rooting for you.
Prayers and hugs
Julia xxx

Hope you enjoy it Judith, it was a treat for me and the OH enjoyed hers too
If it gets her approval, then it has to be good.

Good to hear others experiences with the diet, so it’s good to hear that others have sticky patches, and overcome them. After 10 days I have a downturn in the morning figures again, so fingers crossed.
This HAS to work, or it’s drugs, and the, NHS predicted, downhill run to ill health.

Hi ami, captainlynne asked the team about this and was told it was ok to continue for a few weeks longer. I’m going to continue and then slowly increase my calories while sticking to the principles i.e very low carb 🙂

Hi missjane

Well done on progress so far and welcome to the forums – there’s plenty info on the various threads and I’m sure your contributions will be appreciated by the rest of us BSDers. It sounds like you have a really good handle on the diet and have some interesting recipes to share, hope to see them soon.

Good luck for continued success.

Wow Bill, that sounds scrumptious. As soon as I am on my feet again I’m going to make some mmmmmm x

Thanks Bill,. It was quite scary when my son started vomiting blood on Saturday evening, it’s been a hell of a virus! But we are on the mend, I. Was nowhere near as ill but taking longer to get over the weak and wobbly phase – but age will tell lol x

Such wonderful news Bill, so much deserved too after all your hard work :). So happy for you that the risk to your eyesight has resolved. That’s one load off your shoulders.

We have decided to try not to worry too much until she gets her results on Friday, fingers well and truly crossed.
Anyhow I don’t want to derail the thread too much with our personal problems, I’m truly grateful for all the help and support from all my friends on here.
Right, I had to go to the eye hospital yesterday for a check up. I was a bit worried re the bleed I had in the right eye in Feb (BTW that has cleared completely and in about half the time it used to take pre diet)
I gave the notes from the site to my consultant and she was so interested! She had noticed my weight loss as soon as I walked in and said she had heard of this diet but not a lot – You can guarantee she knows a lot more now 😉
The examiniation showed that my eyes are in much better condition than before. Swelling in the retina veins has subsided to a point where she can, ATM see no risk of further bleeds in my eyes (she agreed that the Feb bleed was probably caused by the rapid weight loss and blood sugar reduction) and my pressures in both eyes are bang in the normal range.
The consultant also told me that she would be doing further investigation into the diet as her speciality is diabetic eye disease.
God I hope we can get her onside, she would be a big hitter.

Hi everyone.
I’m fast approaching week 8 and was wondering whether to stay on the BSD. This thread has helped alot but I wonder if anyone knows why the book only recommends 8 weeks. I chose the BSD because there is a family history of diabetise and my body shape placed me in the high risk category though my blood sugar levels did not place me in the pre-diabetic range. I’ve lost 18lbs so far and would like to lose another 25lbs. My BM is 4.7mmols. If I stay on the BSD say for another 8 weeks I feel I’d almost be at my goal. I suppose like many on this thread I’m concerned about changing from something that has worked so well.

Ami

Loom forward to seeing your results at the end of the week. Good luck …