You’re brill, bill 🙂

CAS you can make pasta with chick pea flour, I found the recipe last week, Google it.

MaryR you must have some sympathy for the medical profession. They seem to be wrong this time, but they spend their lives fixing problems made worse because people followed some advice on MumsNet or a magazine rather than finish a course of medicine that would have cured the problem straight away.

I know of so many people who have given up on a short term course of medicine which might well have cured the problem because they read somewhere that it was bad for them. I could never be a GP.

Anybody have IBS? I have been on the diet for 6 weeks now and managed to lose 23lbs which is great. However, I have had to introduce some starches with meals because the diet is too high in insoluble fibre and wondered how other people were managing and what they were eating?

True MaryR. But if we let them think we are following their advice, things will never change.

The best thing we can do is stick with the plan and record everything. When the medical professionals ask how we’ve done it (and they will) we can show them. They will then be able to see from our records that the official advice was not working for us, but this is.

It might be a slow process, changing the system, but if we persist it will come.

Until then, we keep on doing what we are doing. Often despite the system rather than with it.

Perhaps even more important then showing fantastic results in 8 weeks, we need to show that the benefits are sustainable long-term. That was the issue with the doubter yesterday. Seemed to be saying ‘that’s good, but it won’t last’.

If nothing else, when the GP practices notice a difference in the amount spent on drugs for diabetics they may just start to wonder what is happening.

Well done on pointing someone to this forum 😊

Hi Bill, how did your weigh day go today? I dressed for the expected warm weather today and walked out into a world of cold and misty weather lol!!
Checked the forecast, still said 29 so off we went. No fun setting up a market stall when you’re freezing 🙁 Quick SOS to home, hubby brought some extra layers, changed in the van not having a phone box handy lol. Emerged a much warmer superwoman ready to tackle anything 🙂 that’s what the BSD does for you. Kicking diabetes’ butt, sugar under control, way more energy. Loving it.

Hi Lachlan,
I am a TOFI too! 5’2″ and 52 kg so no need to lose weight. I did the first two weeks at 800 cals with no problems, started seeing good blood sugar results despite also suffering from the dawn phenomenon. This has been a problem for me since I started monitoring two years ago when I was diagnosed.
Lost just over a kg so upped my calories but keep my carbs around 50g/day. I’m now starting week 4 and for over a week have had fasting levels under 5. Totally happy with that, still needing a snack before bed just to make sure that sneaky dawn phenomenon doesn’t sabotage it.
The only suggestion I can give if you want to keep on this diet is to increase your calories but keep your carbs low. It’s the carbs that affect my blood sugars badly. Also have the fat/ protein snack before bed, it really helps to keep the fasting levels down.

Plodding, do you have weight to lose? If not, maybe you would be better just adopting the med lifestyle with no counting, less carbs but more protein, veggies and legumes. If you do have weight to lose, the 5:2 is a good option.

Hi Teej
As you are so highly motivated at the moment, my advice would be not to eat the things your children are going to bake but to make some flatbreads, as already suggested here, some pancakes and/or the muffins that are on the website here and/or the brownies from the book. Of course, any of the family could help you in eating them. I think it will be good for your mental strength to know that you can avoid the other stuff when it is right in front of you and at the moment, you are feeling so strong that you can do it easily. Save indulging in that stuff for another time.

Hi Kimgall,
Everyone has so much in common here. I know when I say I am struggling people understand and also when I’m doing well, people know that feeling too.

Auntylil, well you know my feelings on mushrooms – so its definitely easy to live without them. Fermented things – unless its hops, I’m really not interested in those either. I think tofu is fermented? The other half of my packet went in the bin. I have only just started eating nuts again as part of this diet but I find I don’t want to spend much of my allowance on them. Rose Elliot said that nuts in shells are the best ones for no fungus. Might that help you? I imagine you can burn quite a lot of calories getting nuts out of shells.

Love, love, love this thread … All these lovely people with similar goals … And similar trials and tribulations to myself!! I have just spent the last half hour being fed with positivity and hope!! 😃 With every comment read, I wanted to say “yep, I’ve been there … ” or “wow! What a good way of looking at that … I’m going to try to remember that” or “gonna have to do that”.
What I wanted was to tick or acknowledge every comment on this thread … But I couldn’t, as there is no way to do that … And I certainly can’t thank each and everyone of you for your excellent support and guidance, as I’d be here all day … And you’d all be fed up of me taking over this brilliant topic!!
So, I just want to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone that has taken their valuable time and energy to share their innermost secrets, thoughts, suggestions and guidance.
I have taken it on board … I will make mistakes, I’m human … But I’m going to try and utilise what I learn from each and every one of you when I slip. X

Firstly Teej, congratulations on the weight loss. I too can’t believe how eggs can fill me up……before, I used to eat something like branflakes or porridge (when I ate breakfast at all) and was hungry by mid morning, which I could never understand. Now, when I feel like eating breakfast (not really much of a morning eater), I’ll have a couple of boiled or poached or scrambled eggs and don’t feel hungry until lunchtime. Amazing!

Anyway, with regard to your kids’ afternoon tea for their grandparents (what lovely kids you have!) and your worries about what to eat and hurting their feelings if you don’t….does it really matter if you do go off piste for that one meal? My thoughts are that this way of eating (I don’t mean staying on 800 cals, but the general principles of that, 5:2 or the Mediterranean diet) is going to be a lifetime thing, so having a very occasional ‘off piste’ meal isn’t going to hurt. Just get straight back into it with your next meal. It’s not ONE ‘wrong’ meal that’s going to do the damage, it’s having them continually, don’t you think? I would say go ahead and have a scone and brownie and piece of cake (best not have too many though! lol) and then carry on with the diet immediately after. Well, that’s what I would do anyway. I am finding that this way of eating (I don’t want to call it a diet, it’s far too enjoyable) is a lot less stressful than previous rigid diets I’ve been on.

🙂 L41DA, your nurse will be pleased with you

Auntylil, I love that, todays storm is tomorrows rainbow. I will remember that! 🙂

Hi Teej, good news about everything you have been achieving. I am so impressed!!! What a dilemma! Perhaps you could get your tweenies to make some coconut flat breads (posted by Bill1954) but leave out the salt so you can have them with cream and strawberries on top as your nod to afternoon tea? The gluten free flat breads (posted by Ingenue) are delicious – get your tweenies to make a batch each but with different flavours/spices in them. Then you can have them as sandwiches or wraps. Best of all your kids will have a new baking skill to show off to their grandparents!!! If they make enough you could have some to store in your freezer!!! 🙂

Cherrieanne your new recipe looks delicious!! Those must be home grown cherry tomatoes, I’m drooling! Here in Blighty it will be late June before the home grown are ready.
Would you believe this – about 20 years ago in my previous (large) garden I heard a familiar sound. Shouted it sounds like parakeets! I remembered the sound from the Blue Mountains. Suddenly one swooped from the hornbeam tree – I couldn’t believe my eyes. They are actually breeding in this country!
Do you mind me asking which state you live in? I’m guessing it can’t be somewhere like Perth WA? I’m hoping to head out to Perth, possibly in May, to visit my aunt, uncle and cousin. I haven’t seen them for about 16 years when they came over to England for a visit, before that it was about 28 years ago when I went out to Australia. They are such lovely people it broke my heart when they emigrated to Oz ( I was about 10 at the time).
I like your idea about chick pea flour for pasta. I have had to substitute courgette and aubergine for pasta in lasagnes for years because I am gluten intolerant. One of us will have to experiment with it!!! 🙂

The other day in the supermarket I asked the cashier how many more hours she had left to do, too many she said… and explained how she was eager to get home as her two young children were poorly and had kept her up all night. I showed sympathy and she looked at me and said ‘It’s okay, todays storm can be tomorrow’s rainbow’. I’d not heard that before.

Being kind to oneself can be quite a challenge – if we have a negative self image (source of binge eating, comfort eating etc.) then it’s hard to get into a place where we even think we’re worth being kind to. I definitely think my immune system is compromised currently and the diet changes seem to have upset things; I may be wrong but mushrooms, fermented things and now nuts seem to be aggravating me. So… rainbows tomorrow anyone?

Hashimoto I am walking and exercising a lot more, but the blood sugars are more important to me than the weight loss. I’m extremely happy with the diet and only wish I’d started it earlier. I can’t recommend it enough. I’m due to have my Hba1c in 6 weeks I’m actuallylooking forward to getting the results for once

Tomorrow is the start of week three and I am having a wobble! I am not T2 but, following a basic blood test strip that just worked on colours, I was bordering on prediabetic. Weighed in at 14st and now down to 13st 4lb which is a weight I haven’t seen in st least 2 years. I am absolutely amazed by this way of eating (I am not going to call it a diet as it brings to mind a chocolate mini roll when I have had enough of the diet!). I was already feeling too big around my middle when my eyesight started to blur very slightly. I started to google it and came across the symptoms of T2 and ultimately this book. I downloaded immediately, read in one afternoon and knew I had to make a change. It took me a week or so to get my head around it as it is so removed from how I was eating. I was the person who got hungry on every diet I ever tried and felt sick by 10.30am. Biscuits were my absolute downfall and a chocoholic to add to the mix. Eggs for breakfast? No way! I couldn’t imagine how anyone could stomach that. What a difference two weeks can make! I read somewhere on here that one way of doing it is to accept that the diet you have is not working and rather than try to amend your usual routine, accept that things need to change. Boy, was that person right for me! We have two ‘tween’ children and I changed our morning routine right around to enable me to get up and instead of eat breakfast straight away, do all the other morning things and eat breakfast calmly at the end, by which time I can face eggs, and I love them! I am absolutely blown away by the fact that 2 eggs (cooked with a little butter) can fill me up until lunchtime without hunger pangs. Taking time to make fresh lunches from the book is something I never thought would happen but then I realised that it’s only 10 minutes. Getting up half an hour earlier has made a difference to everyone’s lives in this house and the children now sit with me for a YouTube 5 minute meditation before we leave the house, we leave in a cloud of calm, the complete opposite of 2 weeks ago.

Sorry, didn’t mean to waffle, that just started to flow as I typed! What I am really saying is that if I can do it, anyone can!

My problem is this. Our wonderful children have invited my parents to afternoon tea tomorrow and have planned a bake fest! They are really good bakers and have planned cheese and plain scones, brownies and Victoria sponge and are so proud and excited to have us all around a family table for the celebration. They know that I am ‘cutting down on my junk food’ and the effects have affected them as well as they are eating much better (10yr old cereal freak ate eggs for breakfast before school yesterday!). So, what to do? One side of me is saying stop stressing, I can get them to make the cheese scones with wholemeal flour and use less sugar in the sweet ones and maybe only have half a scone and top with butter for the savoury and cream on the sweet? And just have a sliver of brownie or cake? I know that I am committed to 800, I have been using myfitnesspal and it has been so easy over the last 2 weeks, with no worry about continuing. I don’t want to hurt their feelings by saying no thank you but I seem to be obsessing about eating sugar and carbs when I have completely avoided them. Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated.

I really didn’t mean for this post to go on for so long! I love reading this forum at the end of the day. You have all given me so much support and advice from afar.

Thanks for listening 🙂

Wow! Great results L41DA! In just 3.5 weeks! I am totally impressed! Amazing results on your blood sugars too! 🙂

Thank you I am beginning to think the 5.2 might be the better option.

Hi wyrdsister. The coconut flour is good for the coconut flat breads posted by Bill1954. I’ve used them for savoury and, if I omit the salt, I put a dollop of greek yoghurt and berries on top for a bit of indulgence which is still carb and sugar free.
If you look at the ‘get started’ tab at the top of the page there is a sugar pyramid you can print out and stick on your kitchen wall as a reminder of what not to eat – and the advice given by Spirit is good.
Tallyho is looking at recipes and planning ahead – the ingredients in the recipes will keep you right and make shopping a lot easier. Aldi sell the cheapest coconut oil (thanks Bill – that is where I will buy my next lot) which you will need for the coconut flatbreads and coconut flour I got from my local health food shop.
Good luck 🙂

I have been losing weight steadily at an average 2lb per week and so far have lost 1 stone. BUT, I have been stuck on the same weight now for the last 11 days and it’s getting abit soul destroying. I’m not doing anything different so I’m at a loss as to what’s happening? Anyone had the same?

Mary R. wow what thorough research! fantastic, thank you. the bottle of Bombay Sapphire has been put in the back of the cupboard so I can’t see it! no alcohol and under 800 calories for 11 days now. 41 to go. I keep telling myself that this is good for me.
I had a great email from Q tonic
“Each of our products is crafted from all-natural ingredients with no artificial sweeteners to make the best mixers and sodas in the world.
For example, we use:
• Real quinine and organic agave for Q Tonic……”
Unfortunately they are not available (yet) in the UK anyway!!
A huge well done to you for doing so well for 5 weeks!
In spite of the absence of the wine and g&t, I must admit I am not finding the diet too hard’, only issue is that I am so tired (by 8.00 p.m. I am ready for bed) and I feel more emotional and ‘touchy’. (Doesn’t help that I have only lost 1lb this week.) Even so, trust this will shift and I will get the energy high soon and I am committed to seeing it through.
Keep posting how you are both doing.it is very encouraging.
Have a great weekend.
M.

Tallyho, impressive weight loss and very good news about the blood sugar readings! It certainly is easier to plan ahead. It seems laborious at first but then how long does it take each day to think ‘hmmm, what can I make for dinner, what have I got in the fridge?’. You can also keep all you weekly plans and once you have a few just base a new week on one. 🙂

Well done Bob Fox, the past is another country, so they say and the future is bright!! I’m full of clichés this morning, lol. You’ll shift that 5 stones on this plan and become an inspiration to many!! 🙂

You don’t say how big the loaf is so it is hard to know how bad a teaspoon of sugar is. I presume that it is to ‘feed’ the yeast (I’m not a baker or food scientist so I’m guessing) so maybe it is partially consumed.

The bigger problem will be the flour you are using. All the sourdough breads I have eaten seem to contain refined white flour. Is this correct? If so that would be a problem on this diet. Whole grains only, rye bread seems to be okay if it uses whole grain. Others might know of other breads.

Examine your flour.

I think that you would need to include drinks in the 800.

Hi, I have been doing Fast 800 for nearly 5 weeks. I decided not to do any hard exercise in the first week, but since then I have been doing exercise without any problems. I don’t run but I do exercise probably equivalent to a 6 mile run without any problems. I think that maybe my recovery is a bit slower than when I ate more carbohydrate, but I haven’t any real evidence for that.

If you do 5:2 then it would be easy to run after a high calorie day rather than a low calorie day.

Hello Wyrdsister,

I’m just ending week 5 and have lost 1st 9lbs so very pleased indeed being a dieter of many many years so very experienced but not very slim!

I’ve found this diet dead easy to follow and to be honest (sound very virtuous indeed) haven’t needed to eat the ‘wrong’ things (have had large glasses of red on occasion though). I’ve found a laborious but very helpful thing to do is each Sunday morning I painstakingly write down a ‘week 1’ shopping list from all the receipes and just go and buy that – even though some of the foods I don’t like I am trying to change my palate. So I don’t think what can’t I eat but what will I be eating and just buy that. Some of the meals are so delicious I can’t wait to have them again like the stuffed aubergine in week 1- my husband is now doing it with me as he likes the recipes so much too – tasty and spicy, quick and so different to the spag bol and shapherds pie I kept dishing out week after week!

I now have all my weeks shopping lists done so just print one out and go shopping on Sunday ready for the week ahead. Also planing meals a week ahead so helpful, never done it before but I think that’s helped me loads.

Good luck with it…………..just follow the plan and I believe it does work – my blood sugars now down fro 10.6 – 5.4 in 3 weeks – I’m happy

I’ve been on this diet for 3.5 weeks. I’ve cut the starchy carb veg and potatoes out totally. After the first few days the hunger pangs went away. My overnight fasting bloods at the start of the diet were 7.6, I weighed 16 stone 8lb I am now 15 stone 2lb and my fasting bloods this morning are 5.3, my bloods started falling a week and a half into the diet. Stick with the diet it really seems to work and after 3 weeks I’m not craving any of those bad carbs anymore.

Hi Aly, a chest infection drains you of energy. In the past i have resorted to the most basic foods – baked beans, fried eggs stuff that doesn’t require preparation or more than a couple of minutes cooking/heating. Getting over the infection is your top priority at the moment so please be kind to yourself and remember a couple of days of ‘slips’ at the moment is nothing in the face of the rest of your life on this diet. My dr told me it can take 6 to 10 weeks to fully recover AFTER the infection has cleared. Being kind to yourself now will help you recover more quickly. Hope you feel better really soon but rest as much as you need to. I learnt this the hard way 🙂 🙂

Not sure how but the scales say I lost another 3/4lb. Yesterday I had a two finger twix, a small piece of homemade sponge cake and a small serving of rice. One of my problems at the moment is I am struggling with cooking. It is too much effort. As this way of eating is still new to me my brain does not help me decide what to cook. I will try today to write out a menu plan and shopping list.
I will do this!

Well done Merseychic and charliebee!

It’s looking like those of us with not so much to lose are losing slower? After losing 8lb week one and then nothing for the following 2 weeks, as you know I embarked on the extreme version. Well not every day. But I have been well under the 800 every day, some more than others. I tend now to eat just twice a day. I might have smoked salmon with a poached egg and a mushroom for breakfast and then a piece of steak with green beans or a bit of fish. Occasionally i’ll have some yoghurt with blueberries.

So since last Saturday i’ve lost 4lb. I’ve now just got a stone to lose, but would prefer to lose a stone and a half. I’m on day 28 now.

I bought one of those vibration plate machines that tones up your muscles and helps with weight loss. It only arrived on Wednesday so i’m hoping that helps with water retention too.

Welcom wyrdisister,

Really it’s high carb foods – rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, exotic fruits including bananas and some root veg.

You will need full fat milk, butter, cheese, yoghurt – not low fat versions since they are loaded with sugar.

plenty of leafy green veg and coloured veg like red/green/yellow peppers etc

and eggs, lots of eggs. I can’t comment on coconut flour since i’ve not used it.

Hi Cas, if you’re doing this to manage diabetes then the white flour and pasta are out. See pages 87-90 of the book for an explanation of why easily digestible carbs are “baddies”. Sorry to disappoint you 🙁 I used to love ricotta ravioli too!
Perhaps you could mix the ricotta and Parmesan with some chopped spinach and do it in alternate layers of a ‘lasagne’ type dish but using courgettes sliced lengthways instead of pasta sheets. It’s the same taste and texture but much fewer carbs to wreak havoc with your blood sugar and weight. I’m just about to post my recipe for this. 🙂

Hi Nicky,
Given that your blood sugars keep on rising during the morning, I’m wondering about you stopping your lantus. Did you do this under advice or by yourself?
Is your GP/ diabetes nurse on board with you doing the diet? It might be better to check with them and review the best type of insulin for you if your diet has changed quite radically.
Lantus works by stopping the liver releasing stored blood sugar so you probably wouldn’t have experienced the dawn effect previously. Hopefully these spikes are due to your liver now being able to rid itself of the stores of sugar.
Depending on over what period your blood sugar rises ( ie: is it during the time your short acting insulin should be working), you might have to temporarily slightly increase your morning novo rapid until you’re sure you’ve exhausted all the stored blood sugar. Best to do this under guidance though, and with some frequent blood sugar monitoring to ensure you don’t have any hypos. Blood sugars in the 12-14 range will leave you tired and fuzzy headed. All the best 🙂

Is the grain Freekeh allowed? It’s wheat that has been harvested while still green and smoked.

I have been on the 5:2 diet since January with the support of an app called Lifesome which specifically supports this (& other) diets. Will the BSD 800 cal be accessible on this app? I hope so. It helps to keep me honest.

I’ve been on the 5:2 since January and lost 3kilos which has I’m happy about but am hoping to lose faster on the BSD5:2 method. Regarding bread, how safe is sourdough which contains no sugar?
On another related matter, I realise that commercial bread may have lots of sugar but when I make my own bread there is one teaspoon of sugar in the entire loaf. Is this harmful?

Thanks Cherrianne.

Swapping flour is no option. The end result will not be the same. This is for Ricotta Ravioli. Out of a batch I make about 330 fairly large ones. I mix 2 kilos of white flour with 10 Jumbo eggs plus 2 kilos ricotta for filling mixed with another 10 Jumbo Eggs and some parmesan cheese. To me it contains heaps of protein but in calorie/kilojoules term about 90% of the calories are from the flour. It seems to me that the impact should be minor but I don’t want to stuff up the diet plan once I start on it on Monday.

Regards

Cas

Hi Cas, Could you possibly swap the flour for a lower carb/GI one such as coconut or chick pea flour. Generally white flour shouldn’t be consumed on this diet because it is an easily digestible form of carbohydrate and high GI.
How much white flour is required and what were you making? Maybe someone will be able to suggest an alternative for you.

Thanks guys for all the great suggestions Much appreciated.

Is it Ok if on occasions one consumes a meal of 200 calories but which contain flour? I know FLOUR is a baddie but if it is still within the 800 calories for the day does it matter? By my calculation about 90% of the calories come from flour.

Look after yourself, Sue, and keep us posted x

Reading all your posts, one thing that strikes me is that if you had gone along to your unsupportive GPs and nurses, and not told them what you were doing, letting them think you were following their advice, they would be heartily congratulating you, not wagging their fingers! We are responsible for our own health and wellbeing, and we alone are in control of what we eat and drink. No one can force us to stop this diet and follow what we know doesn’t work just because the received wisdom say so! I do realise that I am lucky in not being diabetic or prediabetic, (as far as I know, anyway) and that it may not be that simple for those already on medication, nevertheless, no doctor or nurse can make you do anything you don’t want to do!
Seeing the success everyone is having following this programme is truly inspiring.
I was at a speakers club meeting this week, and someone was asked to speak about the book that has had most impact on their life- and guess which book he chose- he has just started. I suggested he join the forums!
MaryR

Hi all, read the book. Taking the plunge. Is there a clear list of foods to avoid, I know it covered it in the book but would be good to take shopping. Not sure where coconut flour fits? Any ideas?

Hi, I haven’t seen a shopping list with the recepies. I use spark people.com to track my food and exercise, i think you can enter the food in and save it. I have the feeling it can generate a shopping list for you. Its sad it wasn’t added with the book.

Hi, M and Eureka,
I have spent a happy half hour having a good look at the ingredients in all the tonics in Waitrose!
1. Fever Tree: Light is sweetened with fructose, so not an option a far as I’m concerned. All the other FT options, Classic, Mediterranean, and Lemon, all with cane sugar, and cals per 100ml all the same at 36.
2. Bottle Green: Classic, Cotswold Spring water, and Elderflower, all with sugar, and cals are 29 or 30.
all these are the same price, in 500ml bottles, apart from the FT lemon which come sin packs of 4 200ml bottles and is more expensive.
3. Fentimans: all have sugar, 23cals per 100ml, and more expensive than the others. And the “light”version appears to have exactly the same ingredients and calorie count!
4. The Waitrose own brand is sugar, no artificial sweeteners, but has quinine flavouring not quinine, is 31 cals per 100ml, and 50p/L
5. All the Schweppes ones have artificial sweeteners, so again no an option for me.
So, once the eight weeks are over (three more now!) it’ll be Bottle Green for me, since I don’t like Fentimans- too strongly botanical. Unless I decide to try that recipe!
Next question, whats your favourite gin? Cork ,or Bombay Sapphire Star of Bombay with lime, or Hendricks with cucumber, for me!
MaryR

Thanks guys, really appreciate the thoughts. It’s definitely a delicate balance to know how to proceed. I think that given this has been relatively easy, I’m going to continue with a calorie restricted 5&2 regime. Extra carbs from whole grains and fruit and dairy for the 5 days on (with appropriate protein and fat increase also). I’ll try a target of around 1500 cals per day so I continue the energy deficit each day. As I said ,I’m missing fruit through the day and a slice of toast in the morning. Add a cup of milk and a bit of extra dairy for the calcium and I think that’ll be pretty good! I’m only doing this because I want the extra weight gone sooner rather than later and to get back to a healthy BMI.

As Hashimoto noted that the important thing is to make this style of eating a lifelong commitment rather than fall back into the things that got us in trouble in the first place.

I feel that Dr Mosley’s thinking on the 5&2 is that there is less likelihood of a “backslide” if people only have to worry about the calorie count for 2 days per week, but I’m happy to remain “controlled” for those 5 days as well. This diet has changed my view on food from being a “Live to Eat” kind of guy to an “Eat to Live” zen master! It’s incredible that 8 weeks can overcome 5 decades of programming!

One thing I didn’t mention is that my legs have felt really heavy and tired in the afternoons before my walks or rides in the last week or so, so I think that my body is telling me that the 8 weeks is probably enough for me and I’m going to the 5&2 now rather than continuing for another fortnight. I really want to exercise but it’s been a struggle the last couple of days.

However, definitely going to do the 800 cal fast twice a week.

Keep us posted. I’m sure as more people finish the 8 weeks, there will be plenty of extra activity in this forum with questions and suggestions!

All the best!