Hello all!

Im from victoria! Am on day 2 of of bsd 800 and feeling pumped to lose some weight and try and reverse the scourge of my life that is T2 diabetes.

One question that i feel seems unanswered is im currently also burning 600 cals swimming daily and eating 800 cals. Should i eat back some calories? The severe reduction is scaring me and I’m reading different responses. Some say yes. Some say no.

Bill, you will be sylph like at this rate. Congratulations 🙂

Hi justdoit,
You aren’t doing anything wrong!!! You’ve lost a total of 3 inches so obviously you are on the right track. You’ve also improved your asthma and arthritis. These are real, measurable, outcomes for you and proof that things are heading in the right direction. So well done. 🙂
Your cal/ carb intake is great. You’ve just hit what I call the week 2 blues. So many people post no weight loss, or a gain, around week 2 or 3. Not sure why this happens but obviously some readjustment happening with your metabolism around this time.
Keep going, don’t get discouraged. Make sure you keep your fluids up around the 2-3 litre a day you’re currently having, and I’m sure you’ll be posting a good loss this time next week.

Inka i find the same about toothpaste,so much so I have decided to check out the toothpaste ingredients. If I don’t like what I see I will take a leaf out of lynnes book and write to the manufacturers 🙂

Today’s plan is

L – haggis with a baked egg
D – mackerel with chargrilled aubergine, courgette & peppers

Hi patsy,
No worries, just think that you have taught yourself the right way to do things.
A loss is still a loss.
Have you actually felt the weight of a pound? Eg apples?
That is some weight loss.
You were on holiday or away.
And you did what the doctor ordered.
Doctor Mosley said in his book, a little wine.
Positive thoughts
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Mylife, forgot to say we got most of our meal ideas from reading through the what have you eaten today thread referred to by SunnyB. Here is the link

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/what-have-you-eaten-today/

Or you can get to it via the links on the right above. It’s the second option under Recent Forum Posts.

hey Hashimoto
My middle son is coeliac, was diagnosed as an 18mth old baby… most dinners are entirely gf for that reason alone. he’s also fussy which is painful! i seem to do better on gf, though have had gastroscopy so make sure i’m not coeliac also. 🙂

14kg Fantastic weight loss, are you gluten intolerant as well?

Thank you every one for your replies about the carb levels. We have read the book 2/3 times but just couldn’t seem to find out what it should be. The perils of reading it on kindle rather than as a book, perhaps! I know that Atkins aims at 30g of carbs, but now the Dr has gone, they seem to be allowing more carbs in later stages. Thanks Bill1954 for the info about aiming for 50g of carbs for ketosis. Is there any variation in that for size? I am literally half the weight of Sweetheart and wonder if I should be aiming for less than him either kcal wise or carb wise. I only need to lose between a half stone and a stone, as I am already within my BMI range but aiming for the half way mark. Whereas he needs to lose about 7 stone. I am also concerned about the longer term effects of ketosis, in particular gout and kidney problems. So if anyone has found good research on these issues, I would appreciate a nudge in the right direction. I will share any that I find.
Thanks for all the supportive comments. Given me much to think about. Hope you are all having a good weekend.

They’re gorgeous! I don’t like prawns thawed but not recooked, they’re a bit too strange and squidgy. The coconut oil is lovely with these and the spices I use are just a bit of fahita or Cajun seasoning (have to watch those seasonings because they sometimes have sugar in).

Thanks Judith and Bill, I feel like we are good friends too, just separated by distance. I know you ‘get’ me, and I appreciate your support and humour.
I’m giving up on the lupin flour experiments Judith. I was trying to create a decent gluten free bread that was low carb but really didn’t come up with anything I’d be proud to post. I’ve got one last attempt on the go at the moment using yoghurt as a kind of sourdough starter, with a slow overnight prove. If that doesn’t work I’m going to try a millet/ coconut flour combination. I’ll need to use eggs and I’ll try the natural yoghurt again. I fancy a nice chewy sourdough type rustic loaf. Will let you know how it goes.
I’m quite excited to think of how Lynne’s family will get a lovely surprise at how much slimmer and fitter she is. Those FBS are fantastic too. Sounds like everyone’s had a good week results wise, despite the Easter weekend. 🙂

Like the post shortapple! Welcome on board – you’ve made a great choice. Like the rest of us, you will soon be seeing results. I wish I had found this diet in my mid forties, but I’m grateful for it even if it is 15yrs late!

As annie68 says, there is lots of support and advise on the forum and it’s certainly helped carry me through a couple of times. You will find that your pallet will quickly adjust and you won’t want carbs and the hunger pangs will lessen. Shout out if you need anything – someone will respond.

Look forward to reading your results soon.

Mylife, you are being even more organised than we are. We have planned our meals following the guidelines roughly and then added them up afterwards to see where we are on kcals. We tend to include 2tsp of oil per day as a minimum. And we have bought lots of veg and lean protein on our weekly shopping trip. So not very organised just drifting in the right direction. Our protein portions tend to be around or slightly under the 100g mark. Then we have piled our plates with veg and have learned that way which are best low carb value. I am now learning to give up low fat dairy in favour of smaller amounts of full fat. So I guess we are tweaking something new every day, like you are. I am trying to think of it as a journey rather than a once and for all change. But our results have been better in days than our previous attempts at dieting in weeks. So will stick with it.

I’ve managed three days without toast and vegemite – that is seriously an achievement for me. And no weetbix either. I am hungry, I’ll admit it. But weirdly as long as I focus on the losing-weight aspect of it, it feels sort of okay. My family had gluten free fish and chips tonight for dinner (not a regular occurrence) and I didn’t even have a single chip. god i’m good! hehehehe… I got grilled ‘naked’ salmon which turned out tiny (weighed it, was 115g!) and virtually inhaled it covered in lemon juice and pepper. yuuuuum. incredibly, every day i’ve woken up i’ve dropped over a kilo – 1.5 on the first day, 1.2 on the second, will be interesting to see if i’m down another kilo tomorrow morning. crazy stuff. feel less bloated despite the hunger. yesterday got the shakes when i had left lunch too long. but i’m not doing anything very fancy – plan on having sardines tomorrow for lunch with tomato and mushrooms which shd take about 5 mins to prepare 🙂 best wishes to all

Oh yes! I can’t trust myself around potato crisps, and for the first time ever I have managed to not buy them since starting the BSD. We just have to get to know our triggers, I suppose!

good evening Hashimoto,

No, neither of those….I live in an apartment. But I guess this is just the same being all on one floor. Been here 2 years and my last place was 2 stories, and like you I had to go up and down stairs to use the bathroom. However this is one of the reasons we had to move. Thank you for your concern. I’m off to bed now and will weigh myself in the morning.
Good night

I’ve just posted a similar question did you use the noodles with success?

Well done Bruno, Lynne, Bill and Inka. Seems like the week for great results for you all. 🙂

Welcome to the BSD alexginda. I think most of us work on trying to keep to 800 per day, but as the diet is meant to be an 8wk period, MM actually says there will be days you are over and days you are under, but over the period it will balance itself out.

I certainly try to stick with 800 a day, but also calculate at the end of the week my overall calories and how that averaged out per day, as there are days when I am over and days I am under. At the moment this week, I am averaging 885 per day, as we ate out last night, which means I need to have quite a lean couple of days to balance things out by the end of the week.

Not sure I have answered your question, but hope it helps.

Thanks for your replies and encouragement Bill1954, Hashimoto & Pmshrink and all who commented on their changing sense of taste &/or smell. Congrats Bruno on your great results too. Its so gr8 to be digging out my size smaller clothes. (Glad I didnt toss all of them out.) I’m promising myself some new clothes when I reach my goal. Then im throwing out all the fat clothes! Do others celebrate or reward themselves when they reach their weigh in milestones?

Has anybody tried these zero noodles etc as part of the 8 week plan … There are made from a vegetable root and are on average 10 calories no carbs or sugar content so they appear to be fine but I’d be interested in any feedback.

First post and starting diet Monday – am recently diagnosed type 2

Hi shortapple,
Welcome………..I have only just joined and there are some great people on here to help and support you on the way.
I’m on day 20 and have lost 19lbs so far but I am huge so it comes off abit quicker!!
I felt really cold in the first week but it wore off.
Good luck with it and if you need support there are people on here who will always help.

How about a deli platter – choose from a selection of cold meats, cheeses, smoked salmon, roll mop herring, hummus, tomato and onion salad, you can have it with gem lettuce and he can have crusty bread. You can pick and mix, keep to you cals and carbs and he can have what he pleases.

I have been successfully following 5:2 and record my food intake online. I keep to the 500 cals per day for women on fast days and to my TDEE on feast days and so far lost 20 lbs quickly and have kept if off. I still enjoy doing one fast day each week. When I know I’m going out for a special occasion I eat less the day or so before and that is how I maintain. Just started BSD so I am also trying to keep below 50g carbs per day.

Do you have to stick to 800 calories per day? Has anyone tried working to 5,600 calories per week?

Redskin peanuts – love them. I’m actually wondering if I’m going to have to stop purchasing ‘nuts’ unless for a particular recipe/meal. I don’t trust myself:) I had to do the same with Meridian nut butters! Gosh. They are SO dangerous to have access to.
Ha Ha

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Well done everyone – seems like you’re making great progress.

I haven’t …

I’ve been away for a few days – self catering so I was able to stick with the diet … in theory anyway! I *might* have drunk some wine and eaten a slice of bread and forgotten to count calories. I have lost 1lb. Not as much as I’d like, but not a disaster.

Interesting re. chilling salad – I couldn’t fit my greek salad (tomatoes, onion, cucumber, feta and olive oil) for lunch in the fridge yesterday and it tasted so much nicer than when chilled.

Hashimoto thanks for the tip re. small containers for nuts – it’s one of those common sense things that I forget to do!

Deb, I got some redskin peanuts (raw) and they make a good choice for hunger/craving moments as they are quite difficult to scoff fast and you feel content quickly with them. I’ll still use a small container though!

I’m finding it difficult to come up with lunch options which my husband will eat too. My chances of sticking to the diet are much better if he eats mostly the same things, which he’s willing to do if I can keep it interesting. Soup and omelettes are fine, but that will soon get boring.

I’m not frightened to use barley because from day 1 I’ve been knocking up pans of soup, stews, and broths to portion out for lunches and every one of them has contained barley.
When used like that a little goes a long way and barley has many health benefits.

Hello, everyone! I took everyone’s advice and weighed myself this morning, instead of the usual once a week, which would have been Monday… So, to my greatest delight, I have lost 1.2kg in 5 days! I am really happy, so now very keen to get on the scale on Monday to see it tell me something even more favourable. With this lastest weigh-in I also finally cracked the 90kg barrier, not by much, but it’s below this mark: 89.8kg. I am ashamed to say that I have not been below 90kg for years, so very happy.
I also bought the Ketostix, but have not used them yet and more goodies for rest of the weekend, food-wise. Had fresh prawns with red slaw salad with a little bit of creamy herb and lime dressing and for desert two table spoons of full fat greek joghurt, 3 strawberries, a handful of blueberries topped with a few pine nuts… Oh, and I bought some green leaf tea based flower and peppermint liquorice tea…. Hhm, so delicoius.
I think my tastebuds are really changing: brushed my teeth last night and got a shock that the usual toothpaste I have always used suddently tastes kind of sweet, very soapy and like a real chemical cocktail. Bought new toothpaste when I was out and about, because there is no way I can continue to use the old one, truly terrible. Has enyone else experienced that?

You shouldn’t need to count carbs if you’re following the recipes in the book as they contain very few carbs. If you’re subsituting different foods which are high in carbs, that could be why you’re not losing weight yet.

Welcome to the party Cherrianne, your support on the forums has been brilliant, long may it continue.
Lynne, you give us all something to aspire to, hope your family is bowled over at the sight of you.
Judith, isn’t it amazing how people you would never otherwise meet can become firm friends in such a short space of time ?
That’s a major bonus for me.
2 stones gone now, great end to a fabulous week 🙂

Brilliant Lynne I’m so pleased for you.
My week 9 weigh day and just to cap a great week, I’ve lost another two and a half pounds.
Big milestone for me as that makes me 14 stone 9 pounds, I’ve lost 2 stones !
Blood sugars behaving too, happy isn’t the word 🙂

Hi Hashimoto, I agree.
I was brought up in Scotland and barley was commonly used especially in soups. I used to take packets of barley plus yellow and green split peas back to the Netherlands when I lived there after visiting my parents at Christmas! Pease pudding was another favourite.
Have you tried making barley bread? I was planning to when BSD diverted me – it apparently makes up like a soda bread or bannock. I found a link below. There are some other sites saying you can make it with a sourdough culture – not sure about that as it does not have gluten in it!

http://www.versagrain.com/barley-bread.html

There are loads of websites and apps out there, just google calories in… and you’ll be able to choose which one you like using. Calorie king is quite good and the nhs one too

Hi Cate,
I used a Delia recipe which bakes in the oven and used barley instead of rice. http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/cuisine/european/italian/oven-baked-wild-mushroom-risotto.html
You will need to keep an eye on it first time to make sure that the barley does not need more water or a slightly different cooking time. it should have a bite to it when it is ready. Lovely meal!

I miss kasha and chicken soup with barley far more than bread 🙁

Debi, I’m the same re chilled salad. It kills the flavour. I leave my yoghurt and berries out of the fridge for 10 mins to take the worst of the chill off.

Your food menu for today sounds yummy 🙂

Hi Deb, we’ve all been there! It happens to everyone at some stage, with or without this programme. As the other guys have said, take what you can from it as a,learning experience but then forget about it and get back on track. Its already in the past, its what you do next that matters. You can,and will get things together today, you know on-plan is where you need to be. You can do it!

Hashimito and Penny – you darlings for replying. You are telling me what I know but it is weird how you need someone else to help it sink in:

I’m currently boiling some eggs so I have an emergency snack supply.

I always have heaps of salad n veg in to snack on but dislike it cold from the fridge. Therefore, I’m making a snack tub to keep on the worktop for weak moments – hoping it will become habit-forming. After all, did anyone become obese my gorging on celery, cucumber & courgettes?! 😂
Lastly, I am about to try the coconut oil & cream in coffee combo for breakfast as I have homemade chicken Passanda with cauli rice for dinner tonight at 526 Cals:) anchovy salad as late lunch & I should manage?
Thank you xx

Sounds great – I will try in in May :-)!

Hi Cherrianne,
I had looked it up on the Sainsbury’s site for their pearl barley as I did not have the info to hand at home. I have just checked and I did transcribe them correctly. I was surprised by it as well and had it not been late, I may have checked further. Tesco give a different set of numbers for theirs and Waitrose different again. Needless to say, Sainsbury’s are lowest!
I found a jar with Barley Grain in the house which is what I would normally use and the label in it is different again! Grrrrr.
Okay – lesson learned – don’t trust the websites.
I thought I had just spotted the reason for the difference, some were ‘cooked’, but on further checking – they all appear to be calories for the cooked weight not the dried weight.
For completeness – Tesco Pearl Barley – 100g cooked pearly barley 118 cals; Carbs 24.4g; Fat 0.4g; Protein 2.3g and fibre 3.8g. Waitrose cooked pearly barley 143 cals; Carbs 27.1; fat 0.9g; fibre 4.0g protein 4.6g.
I should be able to get into most of these stores this week and will check the labels on the product themselves and see if I can work out what is really going on!
It is still a good food for 5:2, but probably not for 800 cals unless as Hashimoto has, you have small portions with some thing else!
Thanks for spotting the error.

Hi – I am not sure that the calorie count for the recipe “Spanish Chickpea and spinach soup” p 207 of the 8 week BSD book is correct. It claims to be 2 portions at 210 calories per portion. When I add up the individual components it comes to way more than that. How do I check this?

Hi orchid, my russian kasha recipe comes out like a risotto 🙂

Cherrieanne I have just seen your response to barley.

The recipe i just posted could be split into at least 10 small portions ( some for the freezer) and eaten with something else. Meat eaters could have it with sausage and veg. I dont know what would work as a veggie meal.

Alarming amount of carbs, perhaps left til maintenance stage – and as a special treat. 🙂

Hi Deb
If you’re hungry maybe you need to add a bit more fat? Keeps the hunger at bay!
Penny

Hi deb, you might need to keep some emergency snack foods prepared – celery sticks, hard boiled eggs. When you buy nuts portion them out into little containers – it’s far too easy to keep on going with a bag of nuts and I should know as I have done it so often.

Aldi do little packets of nuts and seeds, 153 calories, 2.7 carbs. It keeps my nut snacking under control. Sometimes I eat a packet for lunch and nibble on crudites

🙂

Wow! Why didn’t I think of that? (Must be the age, y’know).
Thanks SunnyB, I’ll look into those.

Hi jilly, sorry to hear you have arthritis as well. I’m guessing you either live in a bungalow or have a downstairs loo as I do more than 400 just up and down to the bathroom 🙁

I hope your blood sugars fall and that you feel better in yourself 🙂