I see we have a similar problem Stephie63. I will expire the fruit tea option and see if they are allowed. Then my friend tells me I can go out and try out some T2 samples until I find some I like. Off to research!

I started the day after you Anila
I’ve created a lovely spreadsheet that lets me log food, summarise it and keep track of targets – I just have to get some more data!
hope that your first two days have gone well

Week one I struggled with cravings
Week two I had zero cravings
Week three MAJOR cravings but I stayed with it 100%

Here I am starting week four
Weight loss to date: 28 pounds
Fasting BS: from mid 150’s to 99 to 110

Weight loss has slowed down but the greatly improved fasting numbers keep me going.

I still have a massive amount of weight to lose but I feel like I’m on the right track.

I imagine its all poison and I’m in the know and others are oblvious, truthfully, it IS poison to my body.

Hi Thanks for that.

Will try what you said and see how it goes

Started my 8 week program yesterday I weigh in at 130kg im 50yrs old I have diabetes type 2 its time to start looking after myself a bit better I am a tow truck driver on the Gold Coast in Australia I work 12 days on 1 weekend off then back on for 12 days of which I am on call 24hrs except Thursday night which I have off. So much of my eating is grab what I can as I go not a good eating plan. I think it will be a challenge when I go back to work as im on holidays at the moment but I will have most of my meals pre made for each day as best I can. I started the diet yesterday no problems not really hungry I enjoyed all the meals on the meal plan. The veg curry was yummy, my goal is to drop 20kgs in 8 weeks and then go on the 5.2 diet to drop a further 20kgs if I could get to 90kgs I would be a very happy camper.

Lost 2 inches off waist, it’s clearly no myth that I react to foods! And 4lbs!
Excited 🙂

Hi April,

It’s such a pity that there is not a general positive atitude to the diet, I hope that the link below will help you to get someone to listen to what you want.

The link is to a PDF from the NHS in Sotland with an interesting insight to the diet, good luck.

http://www.nhslothian.scot.nhs.uk/Services/A-Z/DiabetesService/PatientsCarers/Documents/SJH%20NEWCASTLE%20DIET%20BOOKLET2012.pdf

Barry

Welcome Rachel, I hope your first day went well and you enjoy it as much as I do 🙂

My friend and I walked 3-4 miles through the forest in the rain, we are a weird pair as we actually like it haha.

Warming up with a herbal tea before bed, then bring on tomorrow!

Hi I went to see my GP last week to advise that I would be starting this diet and my GP contacted the Diabetic clinic at the local hospital; today my GP came back with the advise that the Diabetic Clinic did not feel this diet would be good and that people who have tried this type of diet usually find their diabetes a lot worse to manage once they introduce even small amounts of carbs. I feel so deflated as I really want to try this diet and get off the meds that I have been taking for some years. My GP is going to arrange for me to see a diabetic dietician to discuss.
I actually started the diet yesterday, took no meds and my sugars were stable and really good.
Am now unsure whether to carry on or wait to see the dietician; my GP does not want me to stop the medication.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thank you
April Joy

So am back on it and feeling good. 2 pounds of my 3 put on are back off and I’m fairly sure I will be back to my 7 pound total loss tomorrow.
Am back feeling good again so bring on tomorrow!
L: quiche and salad
D: cauliflower pizza and tomato x

it’ll be a LOT faster than you expect. I’ve just started week 5 and it’s flying in 🙂

Thanks SkyWalker definitely going to try that 🙂

I did 3kms at Ikea!

I’ve found that if I imagine a block of lard when thinking about sweet stuff cravings go away. It,s ten days now since i had my daily one or two kitkats. It certainly works when walking down confectionery aisle in supermarket ☺

Thanks SkyWalker that’s amazing results, congratulations! Thanks for the positivity

Ratatouille and steak – I made a huge pot of ratatouille that turned out to be about 4 good portions when I weighed it to work out the cooked weight. That was a very late lunch, and I’m not really hungry now, so that’s probably it unless I have some yoghurt or strawberries later.
I can’t be bothered to measure milk in every cup of tea, so I’ve estimated that I get through 200ml a day, which seems about right for how long a litre lasts + an estimate for some tea when I’m out, so I will just add that in every day unless I know that I’ve had more.

So – 500 Calories, 55g protein 26.3g Carbs – and 3.5 portions of veg

Hi Guthlac, I know that feeling. Im on week 11 and although I’ve had very good weight loss I’ve still got a stone to lose before I reach my maximum ideal weight. However I can only dream about some of the blood sugar readings I see other people get on this forum. I’m lucky to get 6s and 7s. It was in the 11s though at the start of the diet.

Here’s some info on the difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis: http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/ketoacidosis.html

Thank you Befoon – Frog is after my cat, Froglet, or Miss Frog.
Steak was OK – 230ish calories, less whatever Miss Frog scrounged! – so only about 500 (& 26g of carbs) in total today. I might have some yoghurt later, but I don’t really feel hungry!

Just showered and went into the bedroom and grabbed a pair of pj’s.
I felt weird in them.
Looked at the label, they were my old pair of 18-20’s swomping me.
Ha!
Now I will make them I to dusters.😒😞😅😝☺️😅☺️😬😏😞🤗😅😛
Some crazy things are happening Round here

Love Lucia
Xxxxx

Thanks Switzerland. I was hoping for a more sophisticated tool. Ah well, I can log it all on a paper diary. This is going to be a LONG eight weeks!

11 30 Green Salad with 5 cherry toms and cottage cheese & 1 Waitrose spinach falafel (delicious)

2.30 Greek Yoghurt, berries nuts, flax/linseed

6pm 2 strawberries

8pm 2 egg cheese omlette with spinach.

total 695 cals 24 carbs

Yawn…….. Been up since 5am.

May just need a good nights sleep.

Make sure you all have a good night too.
We can seize the day tomorrow.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi,
Just got home, going up for a shower and Make my self beautiful. It may take some time.
Now where is that polyfiller…..

Love Lucia
Xxx

Low insulin can produce this ketones in the breath and a serious risk in some people is ketoacidosis that should not be ignored. I am not qualified to comment on your case. There was a warning of this in a thread last week. I would seek some medical opinion before very long just to reassure yourself and ensure you are not putting yourself at risk.

Surely if you stress your bodily systems with exercise it will release sugar to help you cope with the exercise but there may be a time lag. As soon as you wake you will start increasing energy consumption and energy release to sustain it – I don’t know if this is an adequate explanation but hopefully somebody else on here will butt in with more info/experience?

I’m adapting the BSD so that I don’t have to cook different meals for the family. As other contributors have written, I have courgette or butternut ‘noodles’ or cauliflower rice when they have the carb versions. They have wraps and I have gram flour version which are just as yummy. And they don’t notice any difference in the chicken, meat and fish dishes anyway. Oh and the flippin’ kids keep pigging my humous!!

HI there, check out the nutritional data on this page. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/recipe/1222636/0

They are quite different and go well together but you can eat any food you like within reason the recipes are examples, I have never used any of them, yet. Once you start to study what is in the foods you et you will become quite expert in a short time. Mr Google has been asked about this before. Good luck and happy eating and cooking…

Hi rachelBSD, Welcome aboard, I am in week 13 now and stopped counting in week 12 when I got to Normal BMI with nearly 40 pounds lost. You will change so many things after a few weeks – for the better of course…

Sure, most seem to have a meal in the early evening and some even delay or skip breakfast on the fast day if they are on the 5:2 but on BSD the longer the fast the better, some manage up to 16 hours but I eat at 6 pm and breakfast at 0830 which I can usually manage but often I am up at 6 am having to fend off the breakfast (not very strong cravings) for an hour or so. Experiment, you will be fine

Hi – we are in the same boat. Today was day 2 of my second attempt. I have re-read the BSD book, in which I have underlined the important parts to help me keep on track. I bought a Garmin watch which tracks my steps and I am over the 10,000 daily requirement. I don’t enjoy doing complicated recipes, so I just cook / make meals from scratch, simple being the key. I did the quiz on sugar dependency and my score was very high, plus I am not getting any younger! The e-newsletter is a good read and has a great couple of links. I am keeping a food / exercise diary and being brutally honest; yesterday 811 calories and today 805 calories. So my first and most challenging two days are done; should be able to get into day 3 with a small amount of confidence that this will not be as hard as I imagine 🙂 🙂 🙂 Good luck and keep posted us all on your progress.

hi
just to add I agree with the person who said the more you drink the more thirsty you get – at least that is what I find with water
and I ALSO see it as washing the fat out

I wonder if this increase in healthy fibre is doing something too as I seem incredibly thirsty at the moment
I have already had 3 litres of water today
interestingly I don’t think I have gone to the loo much more than I normally do (which is a lot by most peoples standards anyway)

Something spooky going on with my kindle😱

Good grief – I have started to repeat myself!! Thought first reply had not registered,so wrote another – duh!

Imogen🌻

Good grief – I have start red to repeat myself!! Thought first reply had not registered,so wrote another – duh!

Imogen🌻

I’ve basically read through your whole 8 week journey so far lol thanks for the inspiration I’ve just started day 1

So enough is enough, after being told by the doctor that my blood sugar levels are dangerously high I think it’s time I do something about it…so here I am starting 8 weeks of BSD…

Starting Weight 184lbs
Goal Weight 161lbs

Day 1 food diary:

Breakfast: yoghurt with toasted almond flakes
Lunch: chicken and lentil soup
Dinner: BSD fish pie recipe

Not been too hungry for day 1 surprisingly…off to start day 1 at the gym…here goes…

Hi Lucia,

How’s things? Enjoying your evening?

Maybe you could sing to your plants – apparently plants respond well to music..🌻🌻🌻

X

yes I find I need good arch support for a proper walk! I try to get my 10000 every day but I am under sometimes, but the longer walks keep my average high enough!

just finishing my soup before going to pick my friend up.

todays news… I need to find my belt for my work trousers.

I had a few cashews and they tasted really sweet, is this my tastes changing? I wonder?!

Hi Lucia,

Maybe you should sing to your new plants??? Apparently plants respond well to music. 🌻

How you doing?

X

yay to all of the above!! you’re doing so well!

I may just put my head out the Kitchen door later and talk to my new plants.

Grow or else!!

The blossom on the cherry blossom tree, has given way to a pile of new leaves, oh well, it was nice while it lasted.
…. But next doors was bigger and better.
Maybe next year…
Send in the clowns, there ought to be clowns, just when I stopped opening doors…. 🎼🎧🎧🎧🎼🎧🎼🎧🎼🎼🎼🎧🎼🎼
La la la 🎼🎼🎧🎼🎧🎼🎧🎼🎧🎼🎼🎼
Love Lucia
Xxxxx

I have a silver cover on my mobile but a gold case on my iPad.
What does it all mean?

42
Ha!

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Feels like rain too, rats,!!!
Have to pull my wellies on later💦💦💧☔️☂☔️💧💧☔️☔️💧☂☔️💦💦💦💦💧☔️☂☂💧💧
Those colours are nice together,
Xxxxx
Love lucia

I am in a floppy mood today.
How is everyone else.
I need a zap of energy, anyone got any spare energy?
Please wrap in a damp brown paper bag and mail it to me.

May just chill -ax tonight.
Do a bit of crafting.

Read a few blogs.

May stalk Bill 1954 now he has deserted me for a younger make. Oh well……..💔💔💔💔💔
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Cucumbers?
Yummy, where do you live, I am on my way, if you leave them in the garden
🍆🍅🍑🍐🍓🍯🌽🍯🍈🍍🍖🍑🍇🍠🍞🍓🍑🍯🍈🍓🍉🍓🍉🍈
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Are fruit teas ok? Like Not_Thirsty I don’t drink tea, very rarely drink coffee, and over the years I’ve trained myself to not drink much at all as in my job I can’t just nip to the loo when I feel like it. If I drink 500ml a day I’m doing well. But I do like fruit flavoured teas, just wondering if they’re a problem as they do taste quite sweet.

Hi all
Yep it’s hard to increase your fluid to the necessary 2 – 3 litres. Like Not_thirsty, I don’t drink tea or coffee – don’t like it. My hot drink ( not often) was cocoa!!! Go figure! I’ve also stopped drinking milk some time ago as I felt it was disagreeing with me. So my choices are already limited.
I choose water & get fed up with it too sometimes. I know when I’ve not drunk enough. My urine is dark ( it should by pale straw in colour if you are really hydrated). I get a ‘fuzzy’ head. I even think my eyes are a bit prone to blurring vision too. I’m Type 2 Diabetic so should keep properly hydrated anyway.
I have a tonic water & ice everyday & sometimes a soda & ice. I have the odd glass of wine with food but always with more water!
Keep drinking folks. Don’t forget the water bills you are paying!

Hi! I have just started the Fast 800 diet and have been using recipes from the book to find my feet. There is a recipe for spicy chicken and lentils, which uses 200g green lentils. Does anyone know if it would be OK to swap them with barley instead? I know barley has a low GI, but am not sure if it’s suitable for the diet. Any help would be appreciated!