Hello forum people!
Firstly – please excuse my username, it makes me smile and is not an indication of low esteem.
I am starting on my 800 a day today with the objective of loosing weight, cutting out alcohol and lowering my blood pressure.
Having gained and lost repeatedly over the years my main concern is giving in to hunger or feeling physically weak from hunger so any tips to avoid that would be very gratefully received.
This forum is just what I need because I tend to diet on the quiet which means no one tuts when I end up reaching for the kettle chips and Sauvignon blanc and settle in front of the telly.
Looking forward to being in touch with people this time.
Here goes….

Hi RozyDozy, thanks very much, seems that moderation is the key together with keeping an eye on things. And not going overboard!

HappyLife this sort of thing https://sc.theimagefile.co.uk/?Action=VF&id=757066690 left by the ancient inhabitants (pre-Roman)

Hi JCH187

Great results😃 Isn’t it amazing how quickly it can become a habit?

Sounds like you’ll not be returning to old, bad, habits😃

Thanks Switzerland. Buongiorno 😃

Asked my friend just now why it was brought up last night. Lady in question has been thinking about more healthy eating. She once lost lots of weight when she had long term depression. Now widowed and on her own all day so sits and eats cake. Maddie (my friend) noticed her mil’s hands and feet swollen😱

Be interesting tomorow, eating at the mil’s home!

Ciao *waves*

Hi Lynne

I’m doing well thanks, end of second week and 11lbs lighter. Eating habits changed beyond recognition and the new routine is becoming habit now 😊

Lucia
Josephsmum posted a really interesting idea on the thread “8 DAYS IN AND HAVE LOST 7LB! YIPEE….!”
Instead of pasta layers, you use a mix of beaten egg and cottage cheese between the layers of tomato-ey mince.

The fish is probably healthier, but the idea sounded interesting enough that I’m going to give it a try next time I have some mince.
Even cooking a smallish quantity, I normally end up with enough for several meals, so I thought it would add variety – particularly as I won’t be having the rice that I usually have with it.

The first 4 days were the worst for me but each day after that I felt an improvement and I’m now at the end of week 2 and have no cravings or constantly feeling hungry. I generally felt a bit rubbish to begin with but knew it wouldn’t last as almost everyone said they felt the same.

Hi captainlynne – buongiorno –

Let’s hope your friend’s mother-in-law has a long think about what you said. You’re a great example of the positive outcomes of the BSD which must have some impact on her.
Enjoy your holiday.

I’m at the end of my second week and lost 11lbs in total, unsurprisingly the weight loss has slowed this week but that’s to be expected. I’ve cooked from scratch every night for these two weeks, I’m not sure I’ve ever done that, such was my love of convenience foods! I feel more satisfied after my meals now, I’ve just had breakfast of natural yogurt, flaxseed and blueberries and feel full and satisfied. No chocolate, crisps or cake for over 2 weeks and I really don’t miss it. Feels good not to be hungry and thinking about food all the time.

Good old DM!

I suppose it’s like trying to eat with chopsticks – it just makes it harder.
I did go to an NHS healthy eating seminar where they said to avoid foods that you eat with your fingers, because you were likely to eat faster because it was easier, and that with a knife and fork you’d slow down and realise when you were full.

The wrong hand thing wouldn’t work for me though – I used to write left handed when I started school, in an era when that had to be ‘corrected’ (that and my mum was convinced I wrote left handed so I could still suck my thumb!), so pressurised to switch to right handed.
I can’t write with my left hand now, but there are still things that I do the ‘wrong’ way round – ironing apparently, although that is something I do quite rarely, and others where I’m ambidextrous. When I was learning to play guitar, the teacher carefully restrung it because I was trying to play it the wrong way round – the next week I picked it up and held it as it to play right handed.
I have a complete block on laying the table – if I’m ever doing it, first strategy is to just lay the knife and fork together on one side, but if it’s more formal, I stand there miming eating, and trying to work out which hand for which, but because I’m pretty comfortable with either, I inevitably get it wrong.

Hi Lucia,
A takeaway meal with bean sprouts and veggies means……you’ve made a great choice.
I don’t know about you but the longer I BSD (do you like how I’ve made it a verb again?) the easier it is to choose the BSD friendly foods.
eg. this evening my family really want lasagne and salad for tea – which is fine – but I’m choosing fish and salad. Sure it’s more cooking but I can have my low carb and eat it too!
….Keep smiling through,
Just like you always do
‘Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away…..(acknowledging the work of Ross Parker, Hughie Charles and the timeless voice of Vera Lynn).

And in the daily mail
It says you can lose weight
If you put your fork in the wrong hand.

Could have saved me hours of counting carbs.

Shall give it a go for the weekend.

Yes, I am gullible.

🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴🍴
Love lucia
Xxxxx

Lucia are you getting ready to go to the fruit and vegetable shop?

To help cope with this evening I shall have a light brunch then lunch in the mid afternoon. That should set me up for not being hungry when I go out. My sister-in-law serves large portions of food. I plan to have two glasses of wine. The rest of the time will be water.

Think I am having a… I feel fat day today.
Don’t know why,
Don’t know when, but I hope we’ll meet again some sunny day 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶😤🎶
Just off for sing song
Love. Lucia
Xxxx

Oh and I was bought a takeaway meal.

Did I go for boiled rice
Or fried rice
Or chips
Nope, I got bean sprouts and veggies, it was great.
Hold tHe MSG.

So i can go to my Chinese take away and survive.

Getting there.

Love luica
Xxxx

Loads to do ,housework wise but j just want to go out and PLAY!
May put a pound on the charity lottery.
I tHink 7.2 million is a nice amount.

Pay the bills off.
Finish all the jobs

Holiday

Then hire a really good looking chef to live in the kitchen to count my cals and carbs.

Then get some hand tailored clothes made for me.

Then see if I can pay it forward. Help donate to obesity and diabetes charities.

Oh and get a puddle making machine.

Oh and invent low cal low carb toast as I miss it.

Oh and when I get to goal weight, go to a spa.

Oh and collect bill captain Switzerland and all the others who have become friends and take them on holiday, wouldn’t it be fun to meet up and chat?

Best Buy two tickets then 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Love Lucia
Xxxxx

George clooney,

Good looks
Beautiful wife
Great actor
Can do comedy
Has money
House on lake combo.

Nope, can’t see what the attraction is 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Love Lucia
Xxxx

thanks oz veggy
It just seemed very bizarre – I started trying to reset the goals at first because I didn’t know they were different,. I easily remember the calories and carb goals, but not the fat / protein etc.

My friend’s mother-in-law visited yesterday – she’s type 2 diabetic on Metformin. Asked how much weight I’d lost. Then it was how 😃. She said she may have to start eating more healthily, cutting down on bread, pasta etc. 😃 But she also said about people eating what they want and just taking the tablets. Still, hope a seed has been sown!

I worked with someone last year that had had some form of bariatric surgery – her weight loss was amazing, but i couldn’t help thinking that if she’d cut to the portion sizes that she was eating post surgery she’d have lost weight anyway. And she still seemed to eat really daft things – pizza, chocolate and sugary yoghurts, just minute quantities.
I didn’t quite get it, but hope its working well for her.

Good luck James. Your positivity will take you far!

Well done!

Frog you’re right Oh my goodness no! I just recall thinking that those relishes must be the height of sophistication 😂 I’m not sure I would even want relish on anything now!

There is an article in this week’s New Scientist magazine (Australian) which talks about how weight loss surgery should be included as an official treatment/cure for Diabetes Type 2 because of the amazing results they are getting. Maybe someone needs to mention to them that you don’t actually need the surgery – just the extreme diet you are put on after it. But I guess they get more compliance from people who have had their stomach stapled.

Thanks Izzy, it was easy to stick to once we knew what we could eat and where we could choose it.
Looking forward to week 6 now and hopefully I will see loss at home!

Welcome to reading glasses Izzy and glad you found your stone circle albeit I don’t know what it is!
We have long days and its light till 10pm here also but I love it!

Hope things are better for you Keep Trying — I know it is easy to get mad at ourselves when we think we’ve “blown it” — I try to remind myself that “perfect” is the enemy of good. I had a lot of not-so-perfect days in the past 13 weeks, but overall it has been of great benefit. Sending you warm thoughts.

Butter lover,

I recently bought new kitchen scales from Big W, the Michelle Bridges one. Once you weigh something you can enter its code and get the total calories, carbs info etc. I can highly recommend them, and good value at $A 19.

https://www.bigw.com.au/product/michelle-bridges-nutrition-kitchen-scale/p/WCC100000000245266/

I don’t think so. MFP automatically adjusts calories for the amount of steps I walk too, even without hitting the gym, as it is synced with all my gadgets. I just focus on the total calories, up to 800. I pay no attention to the calories remaining.

Great results SunnyLife – the effort pays off.

Hi Lucia,

No, we didn’t have open toed sandals or a large floppy hat but we did have a mariarchi band! (Not really, just a vivid imagination).
On breakfast TV this morning ‘does George Clooney make a good TV host?’ Well…….my answer is that George Clooney makes a good anything.
Lucia, I agree with your definition of the week-end commencing 6pm Friday and finishing dawn Monday. I factor in meat free meals to our weekly menu. I do it for a lot of reasons. It’s good for the environment and the family budget just to name two.
We’re in for a wet week-end. There’s an ‘East coast low’ off the coast of Queensland and New South Wales. East coast lows are really nasty weather systems.I’m no meteorologist (wow, that’s a huge word for Saturday morning) but I believe that if the same ‘low’ formed above the Tropic of Capricorn it would be referred to as a cyclone.
Have a safe, healthy and happy week-end.

I’d forgotten the relish pots Gilly – but yes, I loved those too
Maybe not recreate that bit!

TiggerB good luck… I’m almost at the end of 8 weeks and have really enjoyed every week.. Lots of change which I am so pleased with and feel so much better too!

I remember Strikes too! It was a really special treat to go… I loved the relish pots!! Ha memories…..

I’ve been logging food intake on MFP for a couple of weeks – today I decided to start logging exercise as well.
Having logged the stuff that I’d done in the gym, I realised that MFP had amended all the food targets by the calories that I had used in the exercise logged.

The general point of exercising is to increase the gap between calories consumed and expended – not to exercise so that I can eat more.
Is anyone using MyFitnessPal that knows if there’s anywhere I can turn off this really unhelpful function?

I just had some for supper with asparagus and smoked salmon – delicious

the lasagne sounds interesting – I’ll try that the next time I cook some mince – I normally cook a big batch with tomato and onion, so that will be something different to do with it.

It was quite nice going to a large supermarket for a change – I have several mini-supermarkets very close by, but it’s nice to have wider choice.

Third day numbers: calories 786 carbs 11.37 walked 4.46 miles and 1 hour Body Pump Class. Weighed 12st 2lb, no change. Tomorrow should be interesting as we have been invited to a party at sister-in-laws.

It’s been a funny old day. At the opticians I discovered I should have glasses for reading so that’s a chunk of money gone just like that lol.

Then I went and picked up my niece and we went off looking for the stone circle I wanted to see and as we drove along my car started getting noisier and noisier so I pulled into a carpark for a look to find a nice flat tyre. So swapped it over with the spare, but there is another chunk of cash for getting a new tyre soon.

We found the stone circle which was lovely and then home, finally managed to sort out my car insurance properly and took my daughter for her eye test to find that she also needs glasses for reading so right there is yet another chunk of money ready to be spent lol. I’m broke! We have to go back tomorrow for her to choose what she would like.

I’m just grateful that we have what we need and can pay for them, albeit that we don’t have much spare we are fortunate enough.

I’m off now to fit a fan in our bedroom. We used to have a pedastal one but it broke and we haven’t room for it really so I’ve bought one that fits on to the wall. I also have a blackout blind to fit as it’s too light just now. In Scotland we have long hours of daylight during summer. So I best go get it done!

I had cheese, tomato and crackers for lunch. Chicken and cashews with cauli rice for dinner, and I’m going to try and almond milk hot chocolate later 🙂

Night all.

Hi all. In reply to Tofa’s question, it seems that Angela Rippon has a healthy BMI, but her visceral fat was about 3X what was healthy, so the answer seems to be yes. On a parallel track studies by Prof Taylor of Newcastle University indicate that losing visceral fat from the pancreas can help it start producing insulin again, so the BG diet + inulin could be very helpful for diabetics, providing inulin does what is claimed. That’s what I am hoping for anyway!

It’s great that you can still see benefits to this way of life even if the weight isn’t coming off, but having just had your road trip I think it’s fantastic just to have stuck to it like you have 🙂

Big Well done to you!

just passed by and noticed your reply
how kind
thank you rozydozy

head is not good
have also given in to bad eating including a whole packet of cheddars for lunch, and copious other things
(so have blown the wheat free as well)

have ordered all fresh produce, chicken, fish, and veg for Tesco delivery tomorrow and hoping that will work out

I’d agree with skywalker I don’t think the apple is the best lunch, no wonder you are hungry!

As for the gallbladder I don’t believe it is a problem for your blood sugars. I’ve had mine out too but I’m not diabetic so I can’t confirm for sure, but my understanding is that it has no relevance. It stored and released bile, which helped digest fat mostly and to my knowledge has nothing to do with blood sugar.

I’d recommend re-reading the book if you have it, or brushing up on the guidance here. I don’t usually cook different for the family either but I cut out bread/pasta/rice/potato etc and I have courgetti or cauli rice frequently. I’ll usually have yoghurt and fruit for breakfast and soup or salad type stuff at lunch with cheese or chicken etc.

Hi keeptrying,
If you are still reading these messages, I’m sorry that you are still feeling uncomfortable. Remember, you are better than the “bad” foods, don’t let them get the better of you. You chose as your name “keeptrying” – I suspect there is an inner core of determination within you. I hope you find your way back when you are better able to cope with things.
Take care.

Thanks Cherrianne 😃

I’ve used a slow cooker but have to say it’s not my best friend. But in your circumstances it could soon become one😳

Hello all,
I agree with Skywalker – I’ve been BSDing since mid-January, approx. 20 weeks – I bypassed the 8week/800cals, and the 5:2 part, I just went in at the simplest level possible and have just continued. I found for me that tweaking things when necessary works best for me. So far, I’ve lost 1.5 stone – still not yet in the healthy section of the BMI but I’m on my way. I recently relaxed things a bit and had a few off-limits foodstuffs (for variety, to use up some things in my cupboards) and my weight loss stalled but, most importantly, it didn’t go up. The past few days I’ve excluded the off-limit stuff again and the weight loss is restarting.
For me a LITTLE of what I fancy does me good but hopefully now I’ve learned not to go overboard. So I wouldn’t worry about having a celebration meal or whatever, and I’m not going to agonise over things. So long as I monitor things I know what to do if I need to nip things in the bud. I truly believe that this way of eating is the most maintainable diet I’ve ever tried.
So don’t worry about life after the initial 8 weeks.

Thanks Frog 🙂

When I was doing low carb a couple of years ago, I made lasagne using full fat cottage cheese mixed with a beaten egg as a substitute for the pasta sheets. Worked really well! The egg set and it formed a nice cheesy layer between the mince and tomato mixture.

It is really hard for me to find full fat cottage cheese – my local supermarkets rarely have it. Glad you like it 🙂

Hi TiggerB
£2 – someone really wanted the space back in their bedroom! – enjoy. I went to the gym this morning for the first time in ages & used the stationary bikes there – and the rower.

I love fruit in savoury food – rhubarb with fish is a favourite.
Partly inspired by realising that full fat cottage cheese is tons better than skinny versions, I was remembering an upmarket (well I thought it was at the time, I’d have been about 13 or 14, and visits to my sister in London were very glamorous and exciting!) that my sister used to take me to in the early 1970’s called Strikes – I loved a dish with an open burger with cottage cheese and a peach on the top.
Sounds weird, but I’m planning to recreate it!

I’ve been adding cinnamon to yoghurt too – I had some apple and yoghurt with lots of cinnamon for desert the other day – really tasty.

Congratulations Josephsmum – on the weight loss and resisting the cake!

I think the being full is related to the fat content – hence the full fat yogurt rather than the no fat variety.
I’ve had cottage cheese this week – I think I’ve previously only had low or no fat versions when on other diets, and thought it vile, but encouraged by other posters on here I tried some full fat, and its really delicious and incredibly versatile – it doesn’t add the tang that yoghurt does when you add it to things.

well done on the ‘not wanting to kill everyone’ too – I’ve generally been fine, and in a really good mood, but I realised this afternoon that I was feeling really grouchy – I decided I’d not slept much last night, and went to bed for a couple of hours, before I sent any more grouchy emails!