Hi Izzy,

Rowies? Next you’ll be saying “Fit like ma loon?”. I went to uni in Aberdeen (Furrybootstoon) so I know about Rowies, althought they called them butterys. I always thought of them of salty, failed croissants, but loved eating them.

So I persevered and I have now slightly dropped from my plateau (down 0.7kg in two days), but last night I got fashed over some work stuff and took it out on a big bag of mixed nuts. As binges go, it isnt too bad; not so high in carbs and I was still 1000 kcalories within the calorie burn my fitbit said. It should just delay some weight loss by a day or so based on past experience and a wee bit of metabolic theory.

I saw a lot of folk talking about breakfast. I never do breakfast anymore; just a litre of water and a strong coffee and it works for me, but not my other half, and it fits in with some metabolic studies they did on rats. If you restrict when you eat to 8 hours a day, but eat the same amount of food, in rats it lead to better fitness levels and superior metabolic markers (better glycaemic control, lower cortisol etc). But hey, horses for courses 🙂

I hope you’re all having a fandabbydosey!

Sciencemonkey (ook ook)

Captainlynne
That’s a brill set of results ,everyone should aim to carry on the life style on holiday as it is after all a life style approach not a temporary approach to good health
But those BS results are truly amazing I haven’t looked at your starting bs and would be curious how you progressed
I’m eight weeks down the line two stone lighter but still get morning readings of 7-3
And on 4 metformin a day !
I’m going to start reducing them one by one over eight weeks and monitor difference
alanhypno

Hi Steph
I make allowances with meat, fish and dairy that my cat will want to share! Cutting some for her and putting it to one side doesn’t work- she thinks its special if it’s mine.
By the winter you’ll be used to smaller portion sizes – I find that I am after three and a half weeks! If the show days aren’t too frequent it won’t matter too much – once new habits are ingrained you’ll find it’s much easier, and you may be starting to think about 5:2 by the time the next one comes around.
I was in M&S yesterday, and they had really compact thermal lunch bags for about £2

hi Izzy – no granola yet?

Yuuuuummmmm!
Try it, it’s delicious 😆

Good luck Tibeten, its great to have something to aim for – youll do great!😇

Brilliant to hear all the successes, holidays and all!😊

thank you Happy! Mutual pride and admiration back at ya x I think potatoes over creamed corn may have been the better option but I don’t really know lol, but I’m sure if I ate some I would want more. I miss a nice filled baked potato as well. Long term once I get my weight down I think I might have maybe one day a week where I allow myself something like that and watch to see if staying low carb the rest of the week is enough to keep my weight stable.

How weird it is to have the belief that I can and will get there.

Typically it is raining! But that won’t stop me sorting out my sons stuff I will just get wet.

I was woken from strange dreams again this morning by my son, disturbing ones but unbelieveable ones so I can let those go faster! I struggle with the ones that *could* happen. Give me a nightmare with vampires etc and it’s no bother I can dismiss it straight away.

I also need to change my bedding again today. I did it yesterday and then this morning I spilled my daughters cough medicine on it 🙁

Now to decide what to have for breakfast… my daughter is making a banana shake so I might replicate yesterdays one with some strawberries instead of raspberries.

Hi Beverley

Well done for voicing how you feel. I’m starting today as day 1, had a few failed attempts and then punished myself by overeating and then the cycle begins.

A friend gave me good advice which was that one bad choice of food doesn’t ruin the day, just make better choice sthe next time you eat.

I also think you’re right, this is about changing old patterns and habits that helped us be where we are now. Change is hard. you have done so well, keep it up!

xxx

Hello I’m back!

After a few half hearted attempts and inconvenient things like a cruise 🙁 I’ve taken a deep breath and made today my new Day 1.

Gulp, weight is 90.5kg. I’ve 7 clear weeks before I go on holiday so decided it’s now or never!

Very excited that today will be the day that makes the rest of my life healthier.

Thank you for all your posts, I’ve loved reading them. You are a great bunch of people and I look forward to getting to know you all as we support each other.

I started another post about a week ago, when I ‘started the diet again’, but I jumped in too quick, I wasn’t ready to start again because I’ve fallen off the wagon a couple of times again. The diet seemed really easy to start with but the trick is not cutting back on calories or carbs – the trick to staying on the diet is changing how and what we eat – it’s switching to the Mediterranean way of eating. Moseley indicates in the book that we can do it with other foods, which is what I did, making up my own menus and recipes using veggies and spices I’m used to, but I think that is why I am failing to stick to the plan… I’m not ‘getting’ the Mediterranean connection part of the diet. I’m not changing the habits of a life time – what I eat and when. And that makes it all too easy to want some of those foods that I used to eat and to sneak them in them now and then. And now and then suddenly becomes everyday again.

I’m not beating myself up over this. I’m telling myself that tomorrow I’ll start again. That I’m making progress regardless. It’s just a little slower than it was. And that’s another issue too – the motivation in this diet comes from how quickly we lose weight – seeing it drop off keeps us on target to say no to the sugar and complex carbs.

But I’m also recognising that I’m unwell and when I’m unwell it is hard for me to refuse old ‘comfort foods’ – and I need to remind myself it’s okay and it’s really important I don’t give up just because I can’t stick to the diet this week.

And I’ve noticed that I haven’t been coming online and reading the forum posts for support either – perhaps that is something I really need to do daily to keep me on task and focused on the diet?

What works for you to keep you motivated on this diet? What do you to do help when you feel you are slipping, eating too much of the foods you really don’t want to, etc?

wow what a great loss! That’s your good behaviour on holiday catching up with you now, you’ve done great on this plan and from what you’ve said its going to be easy to adapt for you long term.

Glad you’ve managed to fit in some fun times with friends and the pool, sounds awesome!

I work 4 days every week and 3 off, but in my case the 3 off are usually with my kids. I love my kids and have plenty fun with them but I do enjoy the occasional days I actually get to myself, my 3 days off aren’t as much of a break haha but at least I don’t have to get up as early and they will get easier as they get older. My daughter at 11 is much easier than she used to be.

Have fun rummaging through your clothes, it’s a pity you live so far away we could meet up and I could help you to adapt some. I have two plans for some of mine and need to get around to it soon!

Hi Gayn55,
Welcome on board. I too am vegetarian and have successfully lost 15 kg (33lbs) over 10 weeks. I had read that eating a little often was better for you, so like you had taken to snacking. The snacks got bigger and the main meals did not go down in size so I was eating a lot more than I needed. Also for me pasta was a standby – quick and easy with a sauce from a bottle – full of sugars – and portion control had gone.
It took me about 2 weeks to get out of snacking. I had a bowl of sherry tomatoes which are ‘sweety’ size and sweet that I would help myself to if I needed a snack – that or a couple of nuts. I took 50 cals off of my daily allowance to cover that. Over time I’m stopped needing it.
I also started with Shakes which was easy for calorie control, but you are much more likely to want things in between as you have not been chewing food. Also, I found that I was losing weight but nothing off of my middle. I checked the carbs and they were high in carbs and made from skimmed milk so not that filling. My carb intake was 80-120g a day on them – I think I lost 5lbs in the first couple of weeks, but that is no more than on a 1500 cal diet. I stopped them and started controlling carbs. I found out my limit was 60g per day, below that I was getting cramps at night. I aimed for 800 cals, but would go over that if I was below the 60g carbs and wanted to get to 60g, and had less calories if I was going to go above 60g. The cals would net out over the week to 800.
Getting below 60g carbs as a veggie is hard as much of my protein comes from pulses and they are high in carbs. My veg soup which included beans, is 24g carb – but lovely and fills me for lunch!
I would start at 60g and see how you go, if you are not getting the weight loss you expect especially around your middle, then cut down further. Because the veggie diet is full of good carbs, your probably won’t need to go lower. Oh – and I also changed to full fat yoghurt and cheese at the end of week 2 – that was the best thing as it helped keep me full.
There are a few threads from veggies if you put vegetarian into the search engine you will get other views and ideas that will hopefully inspire you.
Good luck with the journey.

perhaps having it now and then as part of the BSD is fine. It isn’t something I’ve made but I’ve made some other things with raisins in moderation.

Perhaps switch to having it now and then rather than regularly and it might help with your BS

worth re-reading the book for sure, it is hard when we don’t get the results that many others get but I think it’s worth trying to find some acceptance.

I don’t have BS issues but I also had gestational diabetes and I know I’m high risk. I suspect my insulin levels have been heightening over the last few years – well the last 24 years to be precise as I know looking back I had symptoms of polycystic ovaries for that long which is connected to high insulin.

I seem to lose weight relatively slowly, even on BSD. I’ve lost less than 1/2 stone over the last month but the word acceptance is important.

I have accepted that if I stick to BSD I have lost the maximum weight possible in a healthy way in any one week for MY body.

I have accepted that every day I reduce my risk of becoming type 2 (but I understand the risk will never be zero)

I have accepted that this way of eating is (in the absence of other research) probably the best way to maximise my own health.

I have accepted that if I do become type 2, that this will minimise my symptoms as much as possible for MY body.

I agree – been eating this no carb bircher for 12 weeks – it may be delicious but its loaded with sugar – as I now discover having gone back to doctor for my blood test. I have lost 1.5 stones in 12 weeks, but now my blood sugar is even higher than when I started. Raisins and apple juice turn out to be a sugar high. Why is this recipe in a book for people trying to reduce sugar intake?

I saw that programme, it was very interesting wasn’t it, let’s hope the reaserch soon becomes treatment

Lucia the good thing about the rain is no watering needed in the garden – I’ve been having to water every day until the last few days as I’d put new plants in and it was just too dry. Very unusual for Edinburgh.

Today I am going to attempt a 10 k run along part of the Fife Coastal Path… Then shower at a Leisure Centre before a charity concert I’m playing in later. Been so busy this last month the family must feel like I am abandoning them… but it means they can pig out on pizza and ice cream in my absence!

Have a good weekend all of you – far and near!

Hi this is my first time on here. I had a gastric bypass in 2007 and lost a lot of weight but I looked terrible so I started eating again and learnt I could snack. I have recently found out I am pre diabetic so decided to read dr mosleys book and it makes complete sense. I have lost 3 kg already ( about 10 days) I don’t want to diet I want to make this a way of life. I am not a salad lover so looking forward to seeing low suger recipes. I have stopped eating microwave meals and most of my meals are freshly prepared. I now have scrambled egg and mushrooms for breakfast which sees me through to tea time which can consist of stuffed mushrooms or home made shepherds pie. I am not drinking any fizzy drinks or dressings. If there is anyone else post gastric bypass I would love to here from you.

Thanks, Orchid.

I did try to stick to 800 calories to start with, but just couldn’t do it. I’m so glad now that rather than just deciding it was too hard and quitting, I carried on doing the best I could.

Once you’ve lost the weight, wine is allowed. If you can, avoid it while trying to lose weight as it’s not only quite high in calories but also makes us more likely to snack.

btw, 3 glasses of wine is almost half your daily calorie allowance on this plan, so yes if you have that as well as the food and then add an extra handful of nuts it will make a big difference.

hehe Doddi,

yep – carbs are sugar. Eat sugar (or drink) and you crave MORE. It is a vicious cycle.
We have now found our taste buds again and love this ‘clean eating’. Doing groceries is not a chore anymore.

Good luck and see you at the 8 week line……… yes 2-3 litres of water per day. If you feel cravings or hungry at any time – have more water………..it works

Lynne

I just realised I posted my reply on the forum and not to you, oh dear! Well done losing 4 inches is fab. I have lost 8lb so far, then put on 1/2lb at mid week weigh in, not sure about why, as I have been following the recipes in the book and added in some extra veg and a few nuts on hungry days. Let me know how you get on.

Congratulations Patsy! You must really be elated. When I started I just wanted to get into ‘normal’, but have been resetting my goals recently and like you – am aiming for a midpoint in the healthy range.
Great to see someone reaching a goal :-).

If you use quorn or other meat subsitutes, remember they’re low fat and for this diet you do need some fat, so add a little in.

If you can avoid snackingfor a few days, you’ll probably start to get out of the habit. That was my biggest downfall (and it doesn’t help that if you snack without thinking about it, you’re likely to forget you’ve had those calories). I’ve found that drinking a glass of water each time I go into the kitcken helps. So does sitting down at the table to eat all your food and never eating when the TV is on.

Back from holiday. Last Saturday weigh before I travelled 11 st 10 lb. day I travelled 11 st 8 lb. home yesterday. Weight today 11 st 6lb😃

After 2 days travelling and 9 days with friends in Italy, eating out at other homes & restaurants I wondered what scales would show, so delighted😃

Oh, fasting blood glucose this morning 4.3 😃

Hi Elsie,
have you tried adding in seeds like pumpkin, linseed (flax), sunflower and a few almonds? I replaced took out oats in home made muesli and now add 3g of eat of these seeds to full fat yoghurt and blueberries for breakfast and that certainly helps. I am sure I have also seen chia seeds being used to help with constipation on one forum thread. Drinking some extra fluid may help as well.
If you put ‘constipation; into the search box, you will see lots of threads where it is discussed and may get more ideas.
Good luck

Well done!

You could buy some gram flour (also known as besan or chick pea flour) and have low carb pancakes. You just mix it with water to the same consistancy as pancake batter (no egg needed) and fry in a little oil or oil and butter mix (which tastes better). They take slightly longer to cook and the texture is slightly different, but they’re pretty good.

Hi Elsie
if you type constipation in the search box (top right hand corner) there is a whole thread on it, with several suggestions offered. Personally, I’m finding the occasional senna tablet helps, but I don’t want to take them every day.

My feeling is that my body, & more particularly digestive system, has had so many years of having so much superfluous junk to get rid of, it’s got a bit lazy and has to adapt to the new normal.
Interestingly, I reverted to some old metformin (which I couldn’t tolerate because of digestive problems, so was switched to extended release ones) – I now seem fine on the ordinary ones now that I’m not eating piles of rubbish.

As of this morning my weight and bmi are (just) in the healthy range!

I’m going to continue my version of the plan (avoiding the carbs, but eating more than 800 calories) for another few weeks, as I think I’d look and feel better if my weight was slightly closer to the middle of the range, rather than grazing the top, but I’m really pleased with my (admittedly slow) progress.

congratulations Lynne – I know you’ve been good at sticking to BSD while you’ve been away, but you must have felt great seeing the scales dip lower when you got home
glad that you had a brilliant time

Another raining day, it’s teasing me
It’s that fine rain that won’t produce puddles.
Thinking of changing my towns name to something like… Soggy bottom!

Love luicaXxxx

Hi everyone

Back from holiday and checking in. I’ve been away from home for 11 days – travelled to London for overnight stay in hotel, flight to Italy, 9 days staying with friends, then flight back to London and train home yesterday.

The last Saturday before I travelled I weighed 11 st 10 lb. The morning I travelled, weight was 11 st 8 lb. This morning, I weigh 11 st 6 lb 😃 Fasting blood glucose 4.3.

While away I’ve not counted calories but stayed low carb, trying to watch portion sizes. We’ve eaten at other people’s houses and had at least 3 meals out. At home I eat morning and evening, but while away I’ve eaten three times a day.

I was really apprehensive about the trip – Italy, home of pasta, pizza, and gelato 😱 And my friends do eat lots of carbs. But they took me food shopping for what I could eat😃 Ok I ate differently to them, especially at breakfast. And eating away from their home could be interesting😳 Some strange looks from waitresses when it was explained what I could not eat. Once my friend’s husband ordered dessert and when it was brought, it came with three forks for us to share. When he said I wouldn’t be sharing I got a very strange look (but it didn’t look nice and friend said it wasn’t nice).

I stuck to my black coffee and sparkling water.

Some of the people we ate with asked why I was eating what I do, so had to explain. One in particular (diabetic) couldn’t believe the 800 calories a day of the BSD. Some said it would make me ill. My response – look at me, do I look ill?

Oh, and yes – my friends were amazed at how much weight I’d lost, and how much more active I was this time than wen I was there last November.

I really enjoyed the trip

Just saw your post hope you are still doing well, 4 inches, how fab is that? I’m planning on measuring at the end of 4 then 8 weeks. Fingers crossed.

I’m half way through week 3 now, clothes feel a little looser and I can see that my belly has gone down a bit. About 8lb loss in total although at my mid week weigh in today had put on 1/2 a pound. Partner D is cock a hoop and has almost lost a stone AND HE IS CHEATING on the red wine at the weekend, I am v jealous.
Had a couple of hungry days and had some extra veg and a few nuts but so far I am enjoying the recipes from the book and trying not to go off piste until I get to the end of 8 weeks.

I eat plenty of veg eg green veg and homemade coleslaw with red and green cabbage.However I think cutting out oats rye etc is making me a bit constipated. Too much information I know but can be a real problem.
Tea party at church for Queen birthday so today will be a challenge

Yes meant Burgen. There is also something called cloud bread . A bit like an omelette. Just google it.

That reading of 5.8 is brill but I thought you may have been non diabetic not just pre diabetic with it being so low
Great result

Hi Funkdoofamily,
I know exactly what you feel like. I feel that will happen to me as well so I am continuing on the 800cal, low carb for 5 days and having a bit of a splurge on 2. This seems to be working well. If you are having 21 meals a week, 1 or 2 bad ones won’t matter. Try to have your carbs early in the day(works for me) I still count my calories and weigh my food for portion comtrol(100g protein portions) I keep my carbs >35g. Hope this helps!

This is my 4th day and I love it, loss 3 kg and feeling wonderful, no craving for food.
I have no problems with husband and other people eating food and cake in front of me, but not having red wine is very difficult.
But I am trying to be strong, for if I have a glass of wine I know I will eat something more than nuts.
So no wine for this old lady for another 7 1/2 week.

Doddi

Headaches: drink more water I was told. don’t know if is right but it works.

Thank you for your responses. Had gestational diabetes when pregnant which often a precursor to type 2 so probably. I do have the book, may be time for a reread.

Not really lng term has only been 3-4 years. Unfortunately yes, still overweight so might take a bit longer.

Thanks fir the encouragement, think feeling a bit down and unmotivated at this point. Will try to re psych myself.

Hi GR
Thanks just read it. It has been like a never ending journey for me, I am in control now, I am intolerant of so many of the meds so I have had to work things out my way. It is always interesting to read options.
N.

Update ….
I have started again … this time i decided to go off my medication (2 metformins at night) to see what the “unmasked” effect of food has on my blood sugar levels.
the surprising thing is – my sugar levels are pretty much in the same range (6+) … while following this eating plan … as when i was on the medication – UNLESS … i eat rice or pasta… then my levels jump up into the 7+.
I have taken a few tips from other people on this site … and am trying the tablespoon of olive oil (straight) in the morning and at night.
Obviously my goal at the end of this 8 week block is that my levels will have dropped .. and stabilized … and that i have lost more weight. I do know i need to increase my exercise . which i keep trying to do …. i just need to DO IT !!
I have to say … i am really enjoying this eating plan – i find i have very simple meals … with fresh veg etc … and all home cooked. it makes packing my lunch etc for work very easy. and trust me .. i AM a food lover.
🙂

Hi Funkydoofamily,
I moved from Fast 800 to low carb med 5:2 on 27/05. I have kept my food low carb and med style. I have introduced rolled oats and 100% rye (pumpernickel) but only had them a couple of times a week. On the 5 days that I don’t count calories, if I’m feeling peckish at the end of dinner I have hot chocolate (milk/cocoa powder), a spoonful of full fat natural yoghurt or 30g cheese. That does the trick for me.
On the ‘5’ days I maintain the pattern of eating that I do on the 2 x 800 calorie days eg. no snacks between meals , fast for 12 hours overnight. I try and not eat any foods that will cause a sharp peak in my BGL’s. I also make sure I eat 2 servings of fruit a day and 5 servings of veg. In my case I find the protein takes care of itself as even before I did the BSD I would have @45g/day.
From reading the threads it seems very individual as to what combination of the BSD you settle with.
I hope this has been helpful.

Welcome Tokyo,

You will feel like a new woman and have so much energy! You may not even have to do the full eight weeks before introducing carbs back in.

I’ve lost 17.2kg (2.7 stone) in under 7 weeks, without exercise I must add.

Well said rozydozy. My husband sighs when the numbers on the scales don’t change even though his pants are falling down. I said “can tell you’ve never dieted in your life”!

Lynne

Hi Lea,
Brett and I have been BSDers for just under 7 weeks. We have lost 17.3kg and 17.2kg respectively and Brett has reversed his diabetes. The truth is for me, the diet stripped away any cravings I might have. Have not craved bread or wine. Brett actually bought home a bottle of red wine one night and I said “if I haven’t craved it yet, there’s no use having it’.

We were however, committed to do the eight weeks properly. It has opened our eyes and we are cooking a wider variety of food now. Yes, I understand weekends are harder for you. We often have a little dish of nuts (around 20) as they are so good for you. I won’t do this more than a couple of times a week though.

Another ‘snack’ I have, if I have to have something, is a dish of olives, marinated mushrooms, sun dried tomatoes and feta. Generally only once a week though. Or you can have some low carb yoghurt.

We will no doubt have a glass of wine to celebrate our 8 weeks but I feel it’s best to try and go without alcohol while trying to lose weight unless you do some exercise!!! This is now going to be our lifestyle with a few carbs thrown in and wine, after the 8 weeks, but with all our energy now we will be working it off!

Good Luck
Lynne

I am in Australia so may have this wrong but my understanding is that in the UK and Australia our food labels state net carbs, the fibre is listed separately. In the US this is not the case so to you would need to subtract the fibre and count the net carbs towards your daily 50gm total, not the gross carbs. Otherwise you will be eating significantly less carbs than UK and Australian BSDers.

I started BSD one and a half weeks ago. Have lost 4kg already! I’m sure that it is just water but it does make me want to keep going.
For the first time ever my husband is onside and supporting my journey. This will make a huge difference to my success, as having to cook carbs, have carbs in the pantry, and then not eat them is always difficult.
I have been having headaches which is unusual for me, thought it was from my stressful job, but now wondering if it is the diet?
My hardest time to keep on track is the weekends, weekends have always been snack days for me. I found it hard last night not snacking, is it ok to occasionally have some nuts, cream/berries or some other substitute? Or will that sabotage it all?
Wine is also my downfall, does 1-3 glasses of red wine make much difference?

Hi, Elsie 45. Burger? Should that be Burgen? A loaf I love. Not had it for a long time, though, or thought of it either. It’s this low carb business, ruining my bread eating habits!

What varieties of mindfulness meditation is everyone practicing? What works for you?

As previously posted I use ‘Smiling Minds’ App (Australia) daily. Nice and simple to use and I am living proof that it helps me be mindful of what I eat and drink as well as it modifies my response to stressful situations.

What works for you?

Hi Lucia,
I looked up the photo of the Queen and Prince Philip – do you mean the Annie Liebovitz one of them – it’s just lovely. The other week I really enjoyed seeing the photo of the Queen and her great grandchildren – it was beautiful – and the great granddaughter who’d been mucking up was given the ‘job’ of holding the Queen’s handbag.

Soooo Summer hasn’t arrived where you live. I don’t think this will be much help but my soups for this week-end are pumpkin and when that runs out cream of cauliflower. Baked dinner tonight – marinated lamb and veg – hold the baked potato. I’m skipping breakfast today as I’m just not hungry (please take note of that in triplicate – me, not hungry).

The weather is supposed to be fine this week-end so I’ll go walking each day – I’ll go down into the bush and see how the waterfalls are flowing after last week-end’s 165mm of rain.

Enjoy your week-end.