Hi SnowWhite

if you haven’t read the book, may I suggest you start there as it appears from your food choices that you’re doing a low carb, high protein diet rather than following the principles of the BSD.

Food wise, you need to have fat to stop the hunger, so ditch all the low fat products and replace with full fat. Full fat yogurt for breakfast, full fat milk in your hot drinks, try adding cheese to your salads, try adding some fish into your diet (salmon, mackerel or fresh tuna are ideal) snack on a small handful of nuts or seeds etc.

As others have pointed out you need to be drinking lots, approx 2-3litres a day, I know if I don’t drink enough as my weight loss stalls.

Hope things start to move in the right direction soon x

Hello JK88

There have been several comments on these forums about the calories counts in the book, as many of them are inaccurate – sometimes by a fair way – and can be either up or down from what is stated in the book when calculated using any of the calorie counting resources found online.

Some users say as you do, that going by the calorie count in the book will probably even out over time. Other people weigh the ingredients and do their own calculations so they know exactly how much they are eating. Certainly weighing is more accurate than using spoonfuls as a measure, unless you are using measuring spoons. And different brands do vary, but they all have the info on the packaging, thank goodness!

And congratulations on getting started. It’s quite a journey that we are all doing, and there are some amazing success stories to inspire us.

Wow Alan that’s terrific! Big applause for you!!! Are you a hypnotherapist?
I still two weeks to go to join this group legitimately but wanted to get inspired by everyone!
Hope it’s okay I came in a little early!
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Wow congrats Polly! You are noticing several improvements!!

I might put some new batteries and try again tomorrow!

I eat some every day but it’s sure true our tastebuds change. Huge congrats on getting through your trip!! Glad it was fun and you were able to stay on your plan and take care of yourself!!
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I give you 10 hearts for being able to juggle the carbs!
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Get a new scale – that is too big a jump! Unless you are readying for your monthly visit.

Gutted – I weigh myself each day and today got on the scale and put on 7lbs since yesterday! How – I ate 789 calories – according to my fit bit burnt 3202 calories, drank about 3 and a half litres of water 😢😢

Luckily I have written it off to hormones – maybe water retention coz of warmer weather so it hasn’t demotivated me, hopefully scale will drop back down in the next day or 2!

Thanks everyone for your advice…I have looked at other ideas and things as well. I work in a school and have a long stretch from waking up…working out…then work…then lunch…I do sometimes just have the two meals a day with a snack mid morning…but this will vary from day to day.
I like the cold ‘quiche’ ideas a well so might do something like that in my muffin tins etc.

Never thought about salt. I never have been a big water drinker . I will drink more and see if that helps. Thanks

I drink 4 cups tea no sugar skimmed milk. About 4 cups peppermint tea and 1 or 2 pint glasses of water a day

i don’t have all the details of your diet, but I’d ask you how much water you’re drinking like Patsy said and what is your salt intake. Try ditching the ham/pork and see what your weight does. I notice that when I have pork, even within my calorie budget it causes me to retain water which equals no weight loss or worse weight gain. If ham is something you feel you can’t give up try to drink more than the recommended 2 liters of water a day, like 3 or 4 liters. I’m guessing the salt is sabotaging you. I hope that helps!

What are you drinking and how much?

Thanks, Orchid – yes, I know all sorts of things affect actual weight 😉 Not too much detail, it’s all helpful!

It’s just sometimes you feel that if you’ve hardly eaten anything, then SURELY the kilos will fall – and then they don’t.

So I’m focusing on the measurements, still, and leaving the weight to deal with itself.

From the way I’m feeling at the moment (stomach bug still around, unfortunately), it’s going to be a 414 calorie day with 19 g of carb, as really can’t face dinner, and it may be yet another night with 2 bottles of fizzy water. And possibly some Gaviscon. (it didn’t occur to me to check the calorie/carb count of a teaspoon of that :-0 )

Hi
I am an overweight pre-diabetes 60 year old. I am reasonably active – have 2 donkeys, 2 dogs, and look after my granddaughters once a week but have osteo arthritis which prevents long walks.
I stared the BSD Saturday 4th June and am doing the 800 diet but not lost a lb. I get quite hungry but do not give in despite desparately missing toast and marmalade! I have followed some of the recipes and my day is:
breakfast – low fat greek natural yoghurt with strawberries
lunch – ham/chicken/eggs with salad
tea – salmon/chicken/pork with salad or veg

please can you help?

Hi Igorasusual,
Sometimes you just hit a plateau or the body decides to slow things down while it catches up with the changes. Also – I find that once into the BSD I was not moving my bowels daily, but every second day. I generally find that the day I don’t have a bowel movement my weight does not change – may go up a little, the day after the bowel movement my weight drops. Basically – the bowel needs to get to full first and the less I eat the longer that takes – and the poo weights something! That is how I explain it anyhow – probably too much information :-).

No problem Venusflytrap. Ours didn’t look quite as good as that pro picture but tasted great. We’ve just made another batch but rolled it out flat as a pizza base!

Yes, the Dietdoctor site is great with a heap of free info on it and perfect for BSDers. 🙂

I think it seems to be useless to worry about weight – on Wednesday I seemed to have some sort of stomach upset. Had indigestion (couldn’t pin down a reason for it) and eventually resorted to some Gaviscon, and had an early night.

Thursday I felt better in the morning and was travelling for work – had some eggs for breakfast and a Pret a Manger protein pot for lunch, then stomach was uncomfortable all afternoon and when I got home I decided simply to drink some water and go to bed so final calorie count for the day was only 508, with 11 carbs!

Decided to treat that as a fasting day (no eating between 1pm Thursday and 11.30am Friday), and thought I would see some result on the scales this morning, Friday – but no! 1lb up!!!

On the other hand, looking quite slim. Hello ribs!

And fat burning according to my Ketostix. I’ve not got a lot to lose, and weight loss has not been as dramatic as other people, but I do keep wondering if – after something like the last few days – I will get up and see a kilo or so gone overnight.

not yet….

I started a variant of BSD on June 2, thought I’d put in a weekly update.

Starting weight: 110k.
Week 1: 106.

I am a member of the nutracheck calorie counting website, but I’ve been pretty dormant for the past year or so. Am now back on the case with logging all calories and exercise.

I’m not going for the full 800-cals per day BSD, but have gone for the following:

Breakfast: Fruit & Greek yoghurt, smoked salmon and/or omelettes for breakfast.
Lunch: Either chicken breast or fish fillet with lettuce, tomato, peppers, cucumber dressed with yoghurt & mint plus apple
Supper: Protein + vegetables + pulses &/or salad supper, once a week berries with cream or Greek yoghurt

This week I’ve managed one fast day of under 600 cals.

I’ve also started more intensive exercise – I use Davina McCall DVDs, so am mixing up cardio, HIIT and resistance. I try to walk an additional 6,000-9,000 steps as well.

First review is June 30, when it will be four weeks into new style of eating, second review will be July 28. I’m aiming for weight loss of about 10k by then, with another 10k off by September 30 and hopefully a final 6-7K by mid November. I’m tall 5’81/2), and I’m a straight 14 dress size when I’m about 82-84 kilos. If I can get to 79-80 kilos by NY, I’ll be very happy.

breakfast – berries walnuts and yoghurt
lunch – cheese and onion frittata and salad
dinner – 1 baked portabello mushroom filled with bacon and brie, with baby spinach and coleslaw

also 4 tiny squares of dark choc
2 teas
1 cup of milk
(hoping, since it is only 5.35pm – that I wont eat anything else but cant guarantee it)

Breakfast – strawberries and yoghurt
Lunch – egg and cress salad
Dinner – will be a curry with gram flour flatbread. Don’t tell anyone, but I’m going to have a glass of wine too.

Hi all,
Im brand new and starting the diet this Monday coming.
Im 32, a Dad of One and in December going to be doubling that up. after hearing about the diet on the radio, I looked into things a bit closer.
Im currently sitting at 110 Kg and all of my weight goes around my waist, so I know that i am a prime candidate for the issues this diet combats.

I want to get much healthier to be able to play with my kid(s) as they grow up and i get older, and also as a small treat for myself, I was bought a skydive for my 30th birthday that i haven’t been able to do as the weight limit is 100kg.

Im a massive snacker on crisps and nuts, so this is going to be a real challenge for me, but im going to follow the recipes in the book and use it to help me focus on the diet.

I play Golf and have a garden that I am clearing, so my golf scores and the progress of my Garden are going to be tied in to the diet to try to keep me motivated!!

wish me luck!!!

James

So is the consensus on this that different brands offer more or less calories?

I suppose if you stick to the figures on the menus, in the long run it wont make such a massive difference?

jk

Hi Polly I hope your crackers turn out well 🙂 the granola portions are certainly going to be small. but it tastes yummy 🙂 I’ve divided it into 3 tubs so it is easier to guage the portions, each tub having 8 portions (assuming half sized portions from recipe) so although it is still small it will be a good 2 tablespoons per portion I think. Nice to top some yoghurt, or to mix with a few chopped berries and have with a little almond milk… or it’s nice just to eat as it is, so sometimes I might take a portion out just for a snack.

Hi Happy 🙂 I don’t know why but I can control it all ok. The granola although high calorie is really mostly nuts anyway! I struggled a little at lunch as my son had a lovely slice of seeded bread and it looked so nice… I’d have been ok if I’d got around to making crackers but I didn’t have anything to dunk in mine! I just ate the soup and made do though!

Lunch was another happy accident. I had a left over chicken breast that needed used up so I popped it in a pan with an onion to fry then added chicken stock, a carrot, a can of tomatoes and lentils and blended it into a yummy soup! I have 5 portions ready for the freezer 🙂

dinner is going to be roast chicken as my daughter complained recently that I never do it anymore. It is because I used to do it in the slow cooker but my big slow cooker broke and we’re not planning on replacing it as I don’t use it as much with BSD food.

My daughter is home from her trip and seems to have had a great time, enjoying Kayaking most of all. I’m off to get the playsand now so I will have it here for tomorrow and tonight I will get the corner of the garden ready for it 🙂

Hi.

New to the site and just starting out on the 8 week diet. I’m interested in knowing what I’m starting from and am thinking about getting a blood sugar monitor. I see there are some devices listed on the site but on checking Amazon (other sites are available) my eye was drawn to the iHealth BG1 Smart Gluco-Monitoring system, I like the idea of it automatically logging results and also the fact that it seems to integrate with the Apple Health app. Has anyone here used it or have any other recommendations?

Many thanks

David

Not convinced by the low carb cheese thing! I didn’t have mozzarella to add in, but a bit dry and – yuk

Hi Timmy, I just HAVE to try Marmite with Marmelade now. Well maybe when I’m not having a hungry day and have the kcal to spare. I was wondering if the urge towards Marmite was genetic, and your family would seem to prove that. But Flytrap Junior does not share Flytrap’s and my taste for it. Maybe he’s a foundling or a substitute as there is his anti-gravy stance as well?

Thank you for the recipe, outrunner2k7. It actually does look like real bread in the picture and the grains in the recipe mean that it doesn’t sound too outlandish. Actually thanks for the link to the whole site, it looks perfect for the BSD tribe.

Venus

Hi Izzy,

Hope all is going better and that the smell of granola made you happy!! Isn’t it funny how smells can make us feel better – aromatherapy on our own!!

More power to you as I stay away from any carbs except fruit or vegies. Just too risky for me!!

Happy day everyone!!
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Well I made it through week 6 without any issues. I can’t believe it’s still so easy to stay on!! And I lost a lot this week!!
Lost -6.6 lbs for a total lost of -24.3 so far!!!! I don’t think I have ever lost that much so far in to any program and I still feel great also!

Well Izzy right now I decided to try and take four days a week off and see clients three days a week and then after a month I will try and every other week seeing clients. Can’t do it yet as I already have people booked each week this next month.

Today is a day off after working everyday and working 7am to midnight last night either with clients or on my website work. I was tired!

Finally get to see friends today and tomorrow and Sunday! Today two gal friends are coming over for lunch so we bought salad fixings and will chop them all up like a salad buffer for every to choose items they want on their salad. And then we will repeat that tomorrow when a guy friend from my old job comes over. This was planned so it’s easy for us to eat on our food plan!!
On Sunday we go out with my work buddies from my last job but I picked the place for lunch and will have salad with crab.
It really pays off for me to plan ahead. Brown I don’t have to worry about what I might eat.
I also hope to have time to go through my clothes because I need to find some clothes that fit better. I must have some in a drawer or box somewhere!! Ha

Well I wish you all an amazing day and thanks for all your support!!
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Hi I have just started the diet after buying the book and checking this site and forum x I weighed in at 13 st 5 lb and I am pre diabetic . I am finding the diet easier than I thought and inspired by a lot of the forum posts on here . I am a vegetarian and cook most of my meals but snacking is my downfall x
I haven’t used the recipes in book yet but following my own using app to count calories . I have been shocked by how high some of my ‘healthy’ smoothies and meals are in carb values , which is probably why I haven’t lost any weight using them this last few months x
Trying to get my head around diet and confused by some things x how many carbs can you actually have every day ? I have been feeling bloated is this normal as I am drinking more water ?
Thank you

Just finished week 6!
This week I lost 6.6 lbs – on week 6!!!
Total lost is 24.3 lbs on this plan

Loving it and all the friends here and support! Thanks to everyone for helping me keep going! It seems easy to stay on still and many friends have started it and also lost a lot.

Hugs to all! 💜🌷

Hi everyone

In the 3 months we’ve been doing this we have finally found a recipe that is actually looks, feels (in the mouth) AND tastes like bread!

We made it today and it’s awesome, Highly recommended (toasted with lashing of butter and Marmite!?!)

http://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/the-low-carb-bread

Enjoy

P.S. Fellow marmite lover 😀

It’s the cocaine, sorry, flavouring on them that makes them so moreish and temping. Not after reading that article though. Yuk!

Thank you 😊

“slurry of wheat, rice, corn, and potato flakes” doesn’t feature on the cartons or the advertising

might as well put “sweepings from the factory floor’ on the ingredients list

http://naturalsociety.com/how-pringles-are-made-potato-chip/ I don’t like how Pringles are additive. I no longer buy them. Are they in fact a food anyone would want to eat?

Oh yes, Flower55, that is your carb addiction speaking! It’s a very common feeling, and is a really good sign that you are taking control and telling your addiction where to get off! It’s not going to control you any more.

Keep on with the fruit teas and do stick with it – it gets better soon!

Good luck!

Day 5 & doing ok but today I’m feeling shaky at times. I’m drinking plenty of water & fruit teas which helps with hunger pangs. Has anyone else experienced the shakes….like you wanna eat something sweet or stodgy to get rid of it?

if you are looking at measures like tbsp you need to make sure you are specific as well. For almonds are they whole, flaked, ground etc. a tbsp of ground almonds would be more than a tbsp of whole.

in the book it does say that the success rate is great but not 100%, and those who don’t reverse are usually people who have been type 2 for a long time prior to using BSD.

My opinion for you for what it’s worth is that this is working for you. It might not cure you 100% but from what you have said it will still have helped to make your type 2 more manageable, and minimised any risks you have because of it.

Are you overweight or approaching a healthy weight? If you are still overweight I would say to continue and see what happens as you lose more weight. If you are nearing or already at a healthy weight and turn out to not be cured of your type 2, I would still stick with the BSD way of life as it will help to control your type 2 better than going back to carbs. So to answer your question as to where to go? here, stay here.

Fasting bloods can also be tricksy. I think it was Bill who said he doesn’t care about them as they can go up and down due to the dawn phenomenon. He goes by his other BS readings through the day – apologies if my memory is crap and it wasn’t Bill.

No Venusflytrap, my house is a house of marmite lovers. Me, my wife and all kids absolutely love it. We get through it like it’s going out of fashion. In fact I think all of my siblings and their families all love it, as do all of my wife’s siblings families, although some of them take it too far and have marmite and marmalade sandwiches.

Hi Timmy, you’re not dissing the Marmites are you? You know the love it or hate it thing? Well us addicts are very protective of our treat. So watch out! —- And now I’ve read your post properly and realised you’re one of us! Just finishing a jar of Sainsbury’s own brand yeast spread. As a Marmite fan, won’t be going there again. And the jar lasted ages, because no one else would eat it. And I was brought up by someone who lived through rationing, so I cannot throw food away. So still eating the damn stuff months later because I have to forget I don’t like it before I have some again! I’ll join your gang if we are going to do over the Vegemites. I could do with an antipodean holiday. I’ll bring the jars of the real stuff!

Is it definitely type 2? I read something the other day about someone that had been diagnosed as type 2, but was actually late onset type one.
Might even have been MM’s BSD book – not sure

Here’s an article – http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2015/sep-oct/diagnosing-type-1-in-adults.html?

Please note, I have no specialist knowledge – but it might be something to consider

someone else commented on that a couple of weeks ago with a different product.
I think different yoghurt brands do vary – someone commented that Fage is lower carb than most.

With the almonds, are they (or the nutrition info your looking at) processed or coated in any way?
Failing that, just check on several sites and see what seems probably, based on the most common data from the sample.

With online databases, remember that most database entries will be added by users, often without much checking going on.
I selected tomatoes on myfitnesspal this morning, which came up as no carbs at all – I think whoever made the database entry was counting calories and fat, but not carbs, so didn’t bother entering them. There is an option to report incorrect nutritional info, and amend it.

There are lots of wonderful stories here about blood sugars coming down, hb1ac tests coming up as normal. Are there any people that have been unsuccessful?

I’m finishing week 6 and I have lost 10% and my sugars are down also but my fasting bloods are still too high and I am starting to worry.

Am I the only one? And where to if it’s not reversed?

OzVeggy, I suppose the one benefit of not eating bread is not having anything to spread that disgusting vegemite on! 😉

Marmite all the way!

thanks Timmy
that should be enough to put me off of Pringles and Hula Hoops for ever.
The residual waste from making crisps. Lovely

Izzy – your post reminded me of a funny Austrian Doctor that I used to have, many years ago.
She was shorter than me, a similar build – poss a size 16 or 18.
I was overweight then, but less so than now, but also quite muscly as I did lots of weights. I didn’t go to the GP often, but every time I saw her, she insisted on weighting me, and pronouncing crossly “If I weighed as much as you do I would be very very fat”.
Made me laugh every time!

Health professionals are still human – I’m amazed at how many smoke! And drink excessively – no automatic passport!

I used to have a brilliant Dentist – I also knew her on a social level, and used to try and schedule appointments to avoid Mondays when she might be hung over & not fully recovered from any coke excesses at the weekend.

I also had a very slim nutritionist – she was good-ish, I lost weight, but over the series of appointments I had with her, there was only one food that she ever expressed a liking for – one evening she got really excited that purple sprouting broccoli was about to come into season. On reflection at the time I wondered if she had issues with anorexia – but to engage yourself with food as a career when you don’t actually like it – Weird!

Thanks for this, I also just looked up calories in almonds and 1 tbsp ranges from
63 calories to 130 I am so confused!
I don’t see how this recipe can only have 100 calories regardless of brand difference?
It’s extra annoying as its delicious!