Enjoying a fabulously powerful thunderstorm here, which is right overhead and filling the air with that wonderful ozone smell! Don’t you just love the drama of nature?!!

Jules, I hope you make it clear to your doctor that you ignored his advice. Let him think it has worked and then sell him the BSD.

Give yourself a little more space and time Langerhans. The BSD will still be there when you are really ready to pick up the reigns, so don’t pressure yourself. Hope you will soon be feeling stronger mentally and physically. Be kind to yourself and take things gently.

Oppo is also stocked by Holland & Barret if that helps, Verano. I love the Salted Caramel flavour.

Hi Haze, welcome aboard. Great result for week one you must be feeling eager to get on with week two! No specific advise for week two, other than keep doing what you are doing. Yes, you should find the health benefits continue and you will feel fitter and more energised than you used to. There are a couple of threads on the forum, where people post the non-weight positive results which can make interesting reading, as you suddenly realise, ‘yes, that’s happening to me too’.

Don’t panic if you hit a plateau in the next week or so, this is common especially in the first few weeks. If this happens, just check your carb intake and try to keep it at 50g or under per day and make sure you are including fats and drinking plenty. These all help to kick start the weight loss process.

Hope your weight loss continues and we look forward to reading your results. If you have any issues or need support, shout out, as there are lots of wonderful folk on here, who will step up with information and encouragement. Good Luck!

I deffo sleep better on this diet..but i also take magnesium a few hrs before bed..maybe that would help you? X
SUNNYB how are you doing? Am sure i read somewhere yesterday that all’s going very well for you x ( sorry but i ger mixed up sometimes coz so much to read!) i hope thats right? X

Hi guys x
VERANO I read about the obese autopsy but its a bit too early in the day to view it coz it sounds a bit gruesome! Did you watch and what did you think? I guess a lot of visceral fat as well as outer fat? X
JAN well done getting back to pre hol weight..onwards and downwards! X
KRYSIA when my weight stays same, i tell myself its still good,coz chances are if i wasnt dieting,i may well have gained! Plus theres still health benefits and possibly inches lost even if scales are temporarily being unkind. You will see a change when things have * ahem* ” moved” !
I wd LOVE a 31″ waist!
FROG enjoy yr walk today! Hope its not too hot as predicted x

Thank you for sharing such a comprehensive and impressive spreadsheet! Your organisation shows such a sense of determination and discipline.
This will be an invaluable tool to help show newbies the course of progression and what can be achieved on this programme.

Thank you. You have inspired me to start my own journey today. 🙂

Hi Sumo – in fact you should find that you sleep better with this way of life. I have certainly found I sleep more soundly and only wake if I need a bathroom visit. Think most people find this to be the case.

Hi Jill
I’ve been pretty strict on the diet for over 20 weeks, lost a lot of weight and am now on maintenance and I have not noticed any issues at all with hair loss.
Cheers
Linda

Morning
Just to say thank you all for your inspiring posts – I’ve been reading them for advice all week – starting week 2 – lost 9 pounds first week and 1 inch of waist and can honestly say I feel better than I have in years – more energy – sleeping better – and I feel more alert in meetings at work etc – does this carry on ? And any tips for week 2 please

Frog – for future reference ‘dodgy diabetic cookery course meal’ shall now be known as ‘DDCCM’ 😉 🙂

I am useless with chopsticks too, and I have zero patience so they would end up flying across the room.

Antigone – funnel? Yes. It’s a yes from me.

Yowzer, I feel ok today. It seems to come and go. I’m not sure if it’s down to what I’m eating or not. Or a virus. Or a bit of both. It’s lovely when people notice that are outside your immediate circle. It almost doesn’t count when people who know you’re on it say because you expect them to. That must be really hard for your OH if he’s lost someone as a result of something like that, it must be a worry especially when this seems so ‘extreme’ to a lot of people.

Morning Jill! That’s a lovely thing to say 🙂 I haven’t noticed anything personally, but I do lose a fair bit of hair and this started with my first pregnancy. I haven’t noticed that I’ve lost more than usual though. I hope someone else can answer your question though, there’s some knowledgeable peeps here! 🙂

Anybody watching BBC1 at the moment ? A post-mortem on an obese person has a segment at 9.05 this morning!!!!!

Hi loopylou

I guess it was cauliflower you used the stick blender to ‘mash’? I found it worked well but I think you have to cook the cauliflower a bit longer until it’s quite soft. Only problem is it could get a little watery if it’s over cooked. It’s just such a faff washing the food processor! But will give your method a try.

Yes ‘predictive’ does make for interesting reading sometimes!!!

Well I got a “personalised care plan” from my GP. And it talks about a third of each meal being carb with the examples being bread, pasta, potatoes and rice coupled with low fat everything. Having started 4-5 weeks ago at 337lb and currently at 304 and averaging 950 calories a day I think I’ll stick to this for a while.

Hello all you fabulous long term amazing people on this thread. I have to say you have kept my spirits up through the highs and lows of the diet! I hope you don’t mind me introducing a topic I posted on another thread here as it is a far bigger and wider forum.
Myself and a few others have noticed quite distressing hair loss and/or thinning in the diet weeks. Googling does produce some evidence that this is down to hormones but to be honest none of it good enough to give real comfort. I have had thyroid tested and doctor recently tested for iron (I await results).
Has anyone here had any hair issues please? On the up side some of us have seen some improvement I understand , over months.
Thanks very much all
Jill

Hi

Thanks for that looks interesting. Have googled it but it looks like only Waitrose/Ocado stock it. Next time I have an order from them will definitely try it. My nearest Waitrose is about 15 miles away!!

Morning Jan – congratulations, that’s brilliant – not such a good day weigh in wise for me

Krysia – sadly DDCC is no joke- and I’ve sodding well put on weight this morning- 0.2 kilos
I know it’s not huge, but its all those bloody lentils and beans sitting at the bottom of my stomach – just as well I didn’t accompany them with the giant tortilla!
good luck with the increased water – if that doesn’t work, I’ve found occasional senna tablets a gentle solution

Hi Lucyjane, Michael Mosley’s book arrived four days ago and I have read it as well as everbody’ response to your thread. I’m finding it all a bit scary because I was diagnosed with hypercholesteraemia twenty years ago and have been on very low fat, no animal fats and two eggs a week ever since.
Like many people I am useless at sticking to a diet, but this one does make sense, especially with all the research that Dr Mosley quotes. So I think I will give it a go.

I must read my posts before submitting them. I seem to have become a victim to predictive text. I really am quite literate!

Hi Ladies
Well done Frog and good to see you’re feeling better sunshine Girl.
I am pleased to announce my spiraliser arrived yesterday do its courgetti all the way for me from now on. Actually I was tempted to change all my meal plans and have done lady night but stuck to my curry and cauliflower rice. By threat I tried the vault using a stick blender rather than food processor. It didn’t work, a bit like gritty cauliflower purée or when play dough has gone dreams crumbly but still a bit sticky together. Defo stick to the food processor next time. Also I made the naans with garlic butter from the Dietdoctor website. They were a bit off, not really like naans but quite nice and only 4 g carbs for two small ones and 156 cals. Do I would recommend if you feel the need for something pseudo carby and I did like dipping them in garlic butter – it felt decadent. However I was full halfway through the meal but being me carried on to the end and then felt overfull. When will I learn.
I keep losing a pound one day then putting it back on the next and getting a bit discouraged. But I’ve been a bit lax about sticking to the 800 cals and 50g carb so I am going to be really strict today and see what happens.
Did you hear the news this morning? They reckon 1 in 10 will be diabetic in the next ten years. Someone’s going to have to start listening soon.
I don’t want to be one of them.

Thank you all for your replies
I have a splash of skimmed milk in tea and have drunk black coffee since my teens. I have a selection of herbal green teas and caffeine free herbal teas, and caffeine free tea, so lots of choice all sugar free, I have never been a fizzy drink or juice drinker so avoiding them is no problem, I will look forward to a daily glass of red wine once in maintenance?

Is sleeplessness an issue with this life style change?

Frog – when you first posted about the dodgy diabetes cookery class I thought you were joking. What is so scary is that people will be following their guidelines and damaging their health. My weigh in day today. Have stayed the same at 10stone 0.50lbs. I think this is because of problems in the bathroom dept and I have upped my water intake. Fasting blood sugars around 4.7 all week. Waist 32 (31 if I pull the measuring tape tightly)

Yeahhhhh
Just weighed in and have lost my holiday excesses weight so now the lowest I’ve been on this plan 16.33 kgs in 76 days 10 weeks 6 days. Wednesday’s are my official weigh day so now I will be able to record a proper loss for 2 weeks yeaaaaa love love love this plan
Hope you are all having equally wonderful days
Love Jan 😀😀😀

Hi Verano

It’s amazing – it’s actually called a frozen smoothie, rather than ice cream, and tastes wonderful
I found mine in Waitrose when I was looking for the elusive oppo
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?productId=421873
100g is 70 calories and 8.5g carbs – generally 50g feels quite a comfortable serving

As well as the chocolate, there’s a red berry one, and a green one – spinach & avocado, which I am curious about and do plan to try

Hi Switzerland

You know I’ve been so caught up in fast 800 for 8weeks it had completely slipped my mind that there are other BSD ways to go.

I think maybe the 5:2 is a more sensible approach for me at the moment.

Thanks for reminding me of the options!

Hi Verano
Yes I have wondered about over 8 weeks also but I figure, if I was not doing exercise, and not eating a balanced diet then yes I may be harming my organs etc, but if you research the signs to look for it reassures you. I for one will do it until the end. I am fit and well no adverse symptoms. Also if I was to eat 1000 cals it probably would only have more of the same in the diet, so what would I be missing.
How’s your losses going haven’t heard much from you lately.
Love Jan 😎😎😎

Reading through these posts it seems we all have similar goals and realised that it may take time.

Sunshine-girl I think you have done so well so far with your blood levels. I bought a ‘machine’ after saying I wouldn’t so now I have another number to stress about! I do random early morning tests and they are generally 6.8 with one 7, that was depressing, and the last was 6.1 whoooopeee ! Problem is I have no idea what it means, if anything, so will have to wait until next month when I see my GP.

Anyway I think what I’m trying to do more than anything is stop my diabetes from worsening and causing major problems. I don’t suffer any diabetes related problems at the moment. I know of two men , neither of whom looked after themselves , who have had amputations!!! That is the last route I would want to go down so keeping control and ultimate reversal are my real aims.

Hi ruthdownunder
How are you doing hardly ever see you on here.
Love jan

Hi Orchid.
Absolutely delighted for you 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 and very systematic approach, I expect you are on cloud nine, enjoy your maintenance stage, cannot wait to get there myself. Keep us posted.
Regards jan

Day 22. BS 6.9 mmol/L. Hello Frog, yes off the Mets and travelling okay. Went boating on Moreton Day today chasing Longtail Tuna with Lucky and my mate Robbo. Had a wonderful day, the sea was very calm and the islands of Moreton Bay are beautiful, Mud, St Helena and Green Islands. The water is so clear. Lucky jumped in at the boat ramp on our return, he must been really hot, off the wharf which is reasonably high thru some floating weed and when he surfaced he had seaweed stuck to his head.Funny as but for a little while we thought he was not coming up. Casually, swam into the shore none the wiser or at all concerned…..he has become a real salty sea dog.

Hope everyone is well.

Hi

Well done Frog it’s amazing what happens when we put our mind to things!

Great Jan nearly back to your pre holiday weight.

Well I’m on holiday so at the end of week 10 have to report a gain of 1.4 lbs! Might sound funny but I’m really quite pleased with that. Usually put on about 5lbs, and there is time yet, but I am keeping a very careful eye on my scales each day and have managed to stick with the same number for the last five days.

Sunshine -girl you are so right about NICE they do work in mysterious ways and it’s great to hear that there are some trials being done in Birmingham. But I suppose NICE hasto be cautious. I had a hip resurfacing in 2000 when it was still experimental, according to NICE and it really was great as far as I was concerned. I lost that hip 9 years ago and one of the pitfalls of that hip was that it was far more difficult to replace than a standard hip because it involved removing a far greater portion of the acetabular. Something that would only come to light in time. Similarly there have been lots of reports of metal on metal hips causing high levels of metal ions in the blood! So maybe we can’t castigate NICE completely.

I’ve re-read the book and I suppose the fast 800 is only recommended for the first 8 weeks although I’m sure that it does say that you could continue longer. As we know from Lynne it does work but what we don’t know about are any, if there are, long term damages. I suppose the only vague guide would be to look at people who have bariatric surgery in the long term and that may give some indication of any problems, but even then their calories are restricted even further, so maybe not a comparison at all!

I guess you pay your money and take your chance! Or calculated risk!!

Have a good week 11.

Congrats, Chookymama. And 54fatnomore, your figures are amazing!

My two weeks are up today. This morning’s figures are:
85.5kg
Same
Overall change – 3 kg
Waist – 115 cm
– 2 cm overall

Yesterday’s food and exercise
562 cals
53 carbs
Moderate walk for 45 mins, 40 mins gardening

Bit surprised to see no change over yesterday but still pleased with 3 kg overall. Haven’t lost anything like the rest of you, but still more than on a ‘conventional’ diet.

I just got my surgery date for the fibroids, in one month so that is good, want it done and over with! Wendyq did your surgery help?

I read an article this morning about how in the 70s the sugar companies paid researchers to gloss over sugars problems (they said empty calories and bad for teeth, didn’t mention other issues) and to emphasise the potential heart issues with fat. Disgusting.

So the daily mail has an article this morning.
To lose weight don’t do anything other than
Sit and read for thirty mins
Under an Infra-red sauna!

Cost for said machine to be installed in my bedroom a zillion pounds.
Or
Don’t eat carbs, save money for the piggy bank.

Doh, no brainer.

Have a happy day.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi Frog

What make is the ice cream? Intense chocolate mmmmm sounds lovely especially with raspberries! I’m not a great lover of ice cream but just now and again I get a yearning! But I do like chocolate Lindt 70% is my tipple!

Yay welcome TOPCAC, its only early days for me still too, just started week 2, but by heck this forum is really helpful and full of awesome people who been thru ALL the ups and downs. And YOWZER49 brilliant effort!! 36 lb in nine weeks!! Love it!

Lety007 that is fantastic for you and OH. Why not put a dash of real whole milk or cream in your coffee, so there is no yuck factor?

Keep up the good work.

Hi All just finished week 1 of the 800 calories…was able to limit my cofee to one cup with a dash of sugar free creamer..yuck!! Good news is I managed to lose 8lbs.. and got my husband to join me and he lost 5lbs..yay

lis , you are doing really well. Lots of successful vegetarians on this plan

JaneA and Orchid, many congratulations. You are keeping me going, along with CaptainLynne and Bill and others of course.
Gavin – fabulous!

Ok feeling frustrated which is silly. Yesterday I stayed under at 700 calories, did 12000 steps and a yoga class, drank litres of water and today 101.4k. So silly because in 8 days that is a loss of 2.3 kilos. Just when I read other people losing 5 kilos in the first week feel a bit jealous.

The good news is I am really enjoying the diet. I feel more relaxed and refreshed – a little bit like my old self before kids.

Liro my son woke me at 2:00am from a deep sleep and I was pretty restless. I think it probably takes a while for the body to get used to be on such a calorie cut.

Today I will have an omlette for lunch with cottage cheese and ham and maybe a side of zucchini. Tonight a salad with grilled chicken/avocado.

Lots of long blacks. Just keep going everyone.

hi Gavin
but now you know that 800 isn’t starving at all! – if you can do it for 8 weeks, a single day will be easy peasy!
hope that the maintenance goes as well as the 8 weeks!

Hi
I really liked the pancakes at first – a real treat as a bit carby with no bread – I just surprised myself by realising that I hadn’t had them for a few weeks – and that I am starting to not miss ‘bready’ type things now.
Hasn’t quite worked when I see nice cake, but I will get there!

Hi
I replied on another thread then got to this one – sorry you’ve not been feeling well – good news that you’re feeling OK again – do you know what caused it?
I’m a course volunteer from 9.30pm to sometime after 6am – meeting at Hyde Park corner, but not sure if I will be around there or that is just the meeting point. Apparently I’m there to walk along with people on the course and offer encouragement.

Is it getting hot again at the weekend? Hadn’t spotted that!
I’m sure that you’ll be fine on a cooler overnighter with the preparation that you’ve been doing

Don’t think my pedometer does anything that fancy! – But I’ve switched to FatSecret instead of myfitnesspal, and when I put daily weights in, it keeps coming up with a verification check message that says something like “that’s a lot to have lost since you last weighed in, are you sure?” – that’s quite satisfying.
I have targets in entered on that site, I’m sure it will do something celebratory when I eventually get there!

Hi Susieb,

Here is a link to the Excel file I used to manage my program: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qb4tk1flffkb0jz/Blood%20Sugar%20Diet%20Progress%20Tracker.xlsx?dl=0

This is a Dropbox folder. You’ll need to adjust the file to match your circumstances and metrics. I am in Australia so many of the foods listed may need to be substituted for a local alternative. I used the nutrition panel on food labels to help me calculate the calories and protein count.

Hi all,

Sumo you are in the right place and will do really well after such a great start. Your significant others need to give up the sweet treats otherwise they will not have enough good nutrition with the 800 cals. Don’t give up coffee, it is not necessary, and makes life worth living. No sugar in it of course!

Hi, all.

Sorry for going AWOL, I’ve had such a busy week with work and have not been able to concentrate on the plan!
But I did lose 1.5lbs so not all bad.

Back on track as from tomorrow and meals planned out. My weigh-in today was 12st. 12.5lbs.

Great job on all your losses so far!
Trelawney, almost 10lbs in 2 weeks. Fantastic!

Let’s do this – I keep telling myself “it’s only 56 days!”

Hi MissPatti – the October test sounds really well timed
If the fasting ones are generally a bit variable, don’t worry about it too much – I’m sure your levels will be down by the time you get to the October test.

Wow – got to your goals AND all your clothes are too big! that’s brilliant, well done

I’m volunteering on that Cancer Research walk, so may see you then!
I’m a “course volunteer” – possibly near hyde park, but it could just be meeting there & then dispersed somewhere around the course!

If I don’t see you, hope that your training is going really well, and good luck for the night!

D

Natalie,I had loads of fibroids removed about 25 years ago,hope your surgery goes well.
I lost a couple of pounds over the weekend.Tried the beetroot and carrot salad from the recipes,delicious!Usually I’m pretty hungry in the evening but wasn’t tonight.When I counted my calories up I had less than 800 and don’t even feel hungry!My body must be getting used to this low calorie diet.I’ve had to stop buying Greek yogurt as I can’t stop eating it!I’ll have to buy little tubs instead of big ones,the temptation is too much.Well done Trelawny,you’re doing great!
Hope we can all have a good week.