Most welcome ShellBrum. I used small button mushrooms and sliced the aubergine thinly but like I said next time i will just cut it into chunks.

Ugh. The anticipated withdrawal headache has hit, sticking to the plan though… kinda. I am supplementing with the odd cashew, just until my body adjusts to the LowCal/LowCarb curveball I’ve thrown at it, lol. Better news is that my boss says I don’t have to stay late tonight! So home at a reasonable hour, lol. (I work 7am-6pm then commute home for an hour)

Question – does anyone know when the new cookbook is going o be available in Canada?

Great post StaceySmith! It has me thinking – why do I want to do this? Beyond the obvious……

I’m 43. Over weight, scratch that, obese (16st 8lbs). Diabetic. I already have problems with my legs and I worry about my sight. Good reasons. Valid reasons. But they aren’t the driving factor…

There are things I want to do that I’m not doing, that I’m saying no to because of my weight and my feelings around that. I want to travel. I want to be able to go where I want and no worry about fitting into seats, about my legs/knees being able to support me. I want to go on walking/hiking holidays because I love doing that. I don’t want my body to hold me back. I don’t want life to just happen to me.

I try to do things that are out of my comfort zone and when I do I usually have a blast, even though it was HARD.

So, my commitment to this process is this:

It will be HARD. I will feel DEFEATED. I will muck it up, repeatedly.

I am not perfect. I will forgive myself. I will cut myself some slack, because I am human.

I will realize that I am worth the work, I am worth the sacrifice, and I will come out the other side my own HERO.

Gods help anyone who gets in my way 😉

Thanks for sharing this journey. I appreciate all of you and your stories and suggestions will help more than you know.

Cheers,

Deb

Finding keeping the food content ok but not drinking as much as I should. Perhaps that explains the dark mood that came out of nowhere yesterday. Equilibrium appears to have been restored today. Tried the bolognaise this evening but rather liquidy for my taste, so will make my own version in future. On the whole a better experience than I was expecting.
Thanks Fairyface for the review, I will try that on Thursday

Hi – I have just done my first week of the 800 and it has overall been good. No headaches, no cravings. I am an emotional eater so trying to ignore the temptation and it has, so far, worked. I just wondered if anyone started the same day as me so we can share weekly weigh ins and monitor / support each other through the 8 weeks and beyond.

I did see another post that was near my starting date, but I can’t find it now. Anyhow, little about me. I am 5ft4in and was 14.4 stones today I am 13.9 so I am quite pleased. Does anyone want to join me, or point me in the right direction??

Hope your headache gets better soon ShellBrum you are three days ahead of us so good luck for the rest of the week.

Fairyface, I am so glad you posted a review of the Skinny Aubergine Lasagne, that caught my eye in the recipe book and now I can’t wait to try it next week! Thank you!

Hey guys,

Some great posts on here! Thank you all for keeping me motivated.

Today was a bad day (Day 5). Decided to go for the Brunch and Dinner option and have had a massive headache since 2pm, just caved and took headache pills. I have drank over 2.5 litres of water already today and had a good amount of salt on brunch too. Maybe carb withdrawal that people on other threads are talking about??

Anyhow my meals today were:

Brunch: Poached egg and smoked salmon stack.
Dinner: Harissa chicken. (could sub chicken for tofu in this one, cook on higher temp if using to get harissa crust crunchy)
Snack later – 1 Granny Smith apple and 10g feta.

Both great meals and filling though too far apart!

Keep on keeping on guys!

Hi AnnaGig and welcome!!

Very good luck with your BSD

I also used MFP and I suggest that you don’t add in the extra calories “earned” by exercise – this helps the weight loss and you should be able to achieve the 800 average AND exercise.

I used to put the exercise in very last thing – otherwise it can be confusing. Though it’s a good record of what you’ve done.

Hope that helps 🙂

The second day has gone well with my husband & I having a brunch after his blood tests of Yorkshire Provenders super broccoli soup, then some left over roasted med veg (from the recipe book) with four small falafel & some pulled ham
Supper has been the chickpea chilli recipe with some fresh broccoli. The recipe makes loads & because it has fresh chilli in it & has loads of veg you have no choice but to eat slowly. We both now feel stuffed so highly recommended if you are hungry.
So total calories including four coffees throughout the day was 827!
Onwards to day three for us.
Good luck October Starters👍👍👍🍀🍀🍀

Hello to all who have joined us today.

Day 4

Breakfast: Greek yoghurt with raspberries, blueberries, 6 almonds (200cals)
Lunch: Omelett, handful of watercress, two small slices tomato (200cals)
Dinner: Skinny aubergine lasagne (p146 recipe book) (200cals per portion)

I was not looking forward to breakfast as I don’t really like greek yoghurt or raspberries. Must admit it was lush:-) Will be having it again in the morning to use the ingredients.
We were going to have Halloumi kebabs, Hubby went shopping for the artichoke hearts and when he came home I decided that 430 calories on lunch was way to many Also did not want the faff or making them. Will do them for an evening meal to use up ingredients.
Skinny aubergine lasagne was lush. At 200 cals for a portion we finished it off. Admittedly hubby had two large portions and mine were smaller. Next time I make it I will just mix everything up and cut the aubergine into chunks instead of strips. Might even add mince or chicken. Really, really enjoyed this meal. It hit the spot tonight.

Not drank as much as I should today and struggled to go to the loo! (sorry) But have felt so much better generally since starting this diet. Like others I am on it to loose weight, upto 9 stones:-( , but I really want to feel healthy instead of how I have been feeling.

Not craved anything again today and certainly feel full after dinner tonight.

Welcome Adelski!

How did you cook the duck? I’ve been quite headachey since yesterday, but it feels as if it’s subsiding now too. Certainly I think today was that little bit easier than yesterday on the whole.

I too keep thinking how amazing this will be if I actually pull this off! (which I will of course 🙂 )

Hi Guys

I have started the BSD TODAY.. 🙂

I am using Myfitnesspal as a tracker – can anyone advise whether I SHOULD – as I would normally – add exercise to the daily roundup; and should I therefore be using the extra calorie allowance that gives me? I just want to be sure!

Thanks in advance

Hi Peeps,loved reading yr thoughts x so many reasons to be grateful,heres just a few of mine!
Just returned from sitting by the park lake with my Beau,on a tranquil evening,feeding the squirrels and watching joggers,walkers,dogs,fishermen – and of course, swans and ducks!
Before that,was in tesco and bought some lovely colourful mini peppers,watercress,cauli,berries,full fat yoghurt,roast ham..all good nourishing stuff. Grateful i had money in my purse to pay.
Coming home as it starts to get dark to my bright and welcoming pad..so fortunate to have a place to call home and a roof over my head – many people havent got that basic need met – and my DD and SIL just down the road in their cosy home xx

Hello to all & hope everyone is well. I also started yesterday after returning from a few weeks in the sun, overindulging in most things and feeling very embarrassed in a bikini on the beach. Think I have remained within my 800cal but think it is very important to plan ahead so as not to be caught out.
Today had 2 scrambled eggs with vine tomatoes and spinach, skipped lunch as really busy at work but sipped on peppermint tea and then For dinner the duck leg lettuce wraps which were actually lovely – cooked the duck last night and took off the bone then just heated through tonight. I have nearly 3 stone to loose after gaining weight in my last year at University, becoming pregnant and then giving up smoking as soon as I found out but that was over 10 years ago now so cannot use that as an excuse anymore!! Had a headache late yesterday and also today but now subsiding – I think for me weekends will be a problem with the temptation of wine/people popping round etc… But going to really try to stick at this and stay very positive and motivated. Good luck to everyone – just think how our lives will change for the better if we manage to actually do this!!!! Xx

Captain Lynne – agree with your comments. I have never been a fan of low fat foods, they always seemed too sweet and glutinous. When I found out what is put in to replace fat it was no wonder they were glue like.

sunshine-girl

That may be true about children. I”be worked in various areas of the NHS (office, not nurse) and seen patients with many kind surgery of problems. But I was upset last night watching Panorama.

I was full of respect for ‘Hopalong Cassidy’ and wish him and his wife well for the future. The male nurs who was going for bariatric surgery certainly had an interesting breakfast – 4 weetabix, topped with Shrddies, washed down with a pint of tea. And all the chocolate he ate😱 I did feel sorry for the girl who bought the Ribena – she thought she was doing the right thing How many times have we done something similar in the past?

How do we help ourselves? We listen to our bodies. For diabetics, if we find carbs raise our blood sugar we cut them down to a level that does not affect us regardless of what ‘they’ say. The medics want us to be proactive in our treatment, but are reluctant to give us the tools. So we buy the BSD books, we come on here, we support each other. Together we can do this. It takes a long time to gradually turn a big ship and it is possible that it will take a long time before what we are doing becomes mainstream and the routine advice given. But it will come. It has to!

Right as usual, igorasusual 😃

Sensible! Me! Those who know me might disagree LOL. But thank you 😃

Food manufacturers have got us hooked on their products. I remember from the early days on these forums that people were describing withdrawal symptoms from carbs that were likened to coming off hard drugs😱 And the slimming clubs are not free from blame either. Their branded products are far from healthy. Most of the time they do not actively encourage healthy eating. It seemed to be ‘eat what you want as long as you stay on plan, within the points allowance’. So many people at the clubs planned their intake around their ‘treats’ whether it be alcohol, chocolate or whatever. Once they’d factored that in, they’d work out their meals. Hardly healthy. And of course one club says you can eat ‘until full’ – but many of us had difficulty with that concept. And that included almost unlimited carbs!

To everyone – old-timers, newbies, and those in between – keep on keeping on. Never give up.

Well said StaceySmith 😃💐

It’s been said that we want to die with our feet on, with functioning kidneys and decent eyesight. The alternative is unthinkable for us.

I think what you say is very sensible Captainlynne

The other thing to note is that once you are accustomed to eating refined carbohydrates you become literally “addicted” to them. This high blood sugar spikes and the resulting falls leave you desperate for more of them to eat.

This is the body changing the way it obtains energy and leads to excess calories and less fat burning.

So we have now been educated to call people “greedy” when really they are driven by the desire for carbs. Not helpful to blame and shame.

It can indeed be hard to give up refined carbs especially if you are used to eating them regularly at each meal.- and them worsening the effect with sugary drinks, biscuits, slices of cake, Cappuccinos and (worst of all) 0 fat foods.

But getting through that initial period of difficulty and finding the huge variety of food you CAN eat – and how delicious it is – cam be a total revelation as many people here have found. And life-changing.

Fantastic to see so many trying the BSD in recent threads. Please carry on, newer starters, even if it feels tricky. Get back on the bus if you fall off. – as you likely will – the control over your life is invaluable.

Hi,

I am 5.6 as well and started out on Friday at 13st 10lb I am down to 13st 4lb in 3 days of the diet!

Stick with it and think of where you want to be and try not to think about food too much, that is what I am doing.

Good ludic with it!

FB

Hi Luisa bulk cooking and freezing is a great idea. What sort of meals are you freezing because I’m getting a bit stuck trying to come up with dinner options. I am mostly ending up with eggs! 😔

Hi mental4ever

They said on that programme that those going for bariatric surgery had to go on a restricted calorie diet (800-1000) to reduce fat in their liver. Exactly what the BSD does. It did not show what nutritional advice they were given as to what they should eat within that calorie allowance. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Angiebabe.I think it would be a cost saving alternative against potential future costs – if people continue to eat unhealthily, running the risk of type 2 diabetes, and those already diagnosed are either non-compliant or follow the existing dietary guidance even with at leads to increasing medication.

Prior to the 1960s diabetics were advised to be careful with carbs. People wanting/needing to lose weight were told to avoid bread, potatoes etc. Then came the low-fat revolution. When manufacturers remove fat from a product they have to replace it with something to add flavour. So they usually added sugar. When we look back, it is clear that the start of the problems we now face with obesity and diabetes date back to that time.

Like many other diabetics, I’I’ve found that the only way for me to normalise my blood sugars without resorting to medication is to restrict carbohydrates. I have seen folk suffering from the effects of uncontrolled diabetes and do not want to go down that path. Perhaps that is why the timing was right for me to go on the BSD. And to stick with it.

We are all responsible for what we eat and drink. But we are conditioned to listen to the experts. Even if what they are saying is harming us. I originally decided that I would do the BSD in spite of the medical professionals. I was (and still am) doing it for me. I don’t want to lose parts of me to gangrene, I don’t want to go on kidney dialysis, and I don’t want to lose my eyesight. I want to be around for a long time yet, as fit and healthy as I can be. I have family and others who need me to be as fit as I can be for as long as I can be. It’s not always easy, but the consequences of not doing it are far worse than any difficulty or inconvenience along the way.

But, yes, I think there are still people who will not take responsibility. There will still be the ones who prefer to take medication that lets them eat what they want, then wonder why they need increasing medication. My diabetes nurse has told me about patients who go for the so-called easy option! And, yes, there are the ones who think it will never happen to them.

Looks like I’m turning into a campaigner😱

hello all!
I just started on Monday 3rd and looking for support!
I’m 5.6 and weight 14st 10lb would ideally like to get down to a good healthy weight however I’d be happy to break the 14 stone barrier first but I’m doing this to kick start it all!!
I did try this once before but lost my way during a week off but I certainly found that organisation is the key to success with this! bulk cooking and freezing batches with calorie content on labels was a good idea so I’m planning that this weekend!!
also invested in new bathroom scales today to stay on top of the weight loss!!
good luck everyone xx

I watched the Panorama programme and it made me very sad. Sad that people are not being offered this diet or, failing that, proper dietary advice. But I do know that Birmingham Endo and Diabetes department are running a trial on this diet as my daughter met a nurse on the plane over to see me and they started discussing it. Big tick for a step in the right direction.

If you read the paper by Public Health Collaboration UK and their recommendations to NICE (www.phcuk.org search for Advice for Health etc etc) the main reason NICE are not willing to implement this dietary advice is mainly one of cost. They are not looking at the big picture of how much diabetes and heart disease etc are already costing and how much money they could save once they have trained the medical personnel to advocate LCHF, not necessarily 800 calories, but the principle of it. That would more than outweigh the costs of training.

Lynne, I think the reason the childhood diabetes is much more aggressive is because it is more difficult to get a child to control their eating, exercising behaviour, they are too young to understand the future implications so carry on with the soft drinks. Think of the mentality of smokers, especially young ones, the young are going to live forever. Yeah. Also if you get complications at age 60, 65 or 70 you might have another 10 or 15 years to live and get to 70, 75 or 80. If you get complications age 20 you might not see 30. Terrible. The programme made me cry and I used to be a nurse, but I have never seen an amputation and its outcomes. Bless the chap who was cheery to be called Hop Along Cassidy, what chance did he have. Bless the young chap whose sister thought his sugary drink was good for him as it contained Vitamin C. Bless the woman who said she did nothing to help her husband, she fed him decent meals and found chocolate wrappings in the car and pasty wrappers all over the house. Can you really blame her.

And, finally, yes we should all take responsibility for our own health but when we are given such rubbish advice how do we help ourselves.

This is the start of a revolution but it takes strong will to take up this challenge, this diet is not an easy solution, it is hard work and takes guts and motivations to do it properly and we are doing it. So bless all of us too. (By the way, I am not religious).

Day 2 and it’s going quite well, so far.

Breakfast: yoghurt, raspeberries, strawberries and berries
Lunch: minestrone soup with parmesan
Dinner: planning fish and veg or some sort.

I am drinking more water but haven’t given up on tea. Reducing carbs, caffine and sugar in one day seems too much. I am counting the milk into my daily 800 allowance. I have no idea how many carbs I am having but I know I have knocked all the rubbish out of my diet. I am doing what I can to get me through the first week and then I might look at the carb/calorie ratio. I had a real mid day slump. Dealt with it b chomping blackcurrent Airways and decluttering bedroom cupboards. I am on leave from work this week so it has been an easy start. It’s weird, I have never been able to lose weight for vanity reasons but thinking about the long term health benefits is motiviating me, so far. I keep telling myself that 8 weeks is challenging but not as challenging dealing with poor health further down the line.

Krysia, I have just done an average of my bloods for the last 15 days and I am running at 5.1. If that is the result of my HBA1c, due beginning of November but having it done end of November to allow for the holiday, I will be very happy and you and I will be having conversations. I will need your help.

Stacey, see you have read Prof. Peters Chimp Paradox. Sometimes getting what we really want takes sacrifice. I am happy to sacrifice simple carbs for the sake of my health, this is not a case of I don’t want to be fat or I want to look nice in a bikini. We are of the same mind, I don’t want to be ill. Good for you and good luck.

In the book – the 8 week Blood Sugar diet – Dr. Mosley says there are three core principles of the diet:

1. Going Mediterranean
2. Getting Active
3. Sorting out your Head

In the documentaries I’ve watched – he has said several times – THIS IS HARD.

What I took from this: If I want to be successful, I have to be mentally HARD (or equal) to the challenge. I think you have to mentally have a large enough reason. In order to get this mental toughness, I have to have a rock solid reason.

One phrase from the documentary “Eat, Fast and Live Longer” (which you can find on youtube) one of the doctors said: “You have to make a decision now – in your case – what do you want to do? There’s a lot of drugs you can be taking – and is that what you want to do – and if you do so …. in a few years you will be one of the typical 65 year olds in Europe that takes 8 drugs a day”.

My rock solid reason for doing this? I will remain active until the day I die. I will not put myself in bed so that others have to take care of me and wipe my butt because I cannot control my diet or my activity level. I will not be dependent upon prescription drugs when I am 65, I will not put myself at the higher risk of EVERY type of cancer (I really, really do not want cancer). I will not put myself at the higher risk of heart disease. I will not put myself at the higher risk of getting diabetic neuropathy anywhere in my body that would cause me to lose my sight, lose a limb, kidney function, etc, etc, etc.

So for all of you fighting that “Chimp” in your head, knock it out for these 8 weeks with a rock solid punch. Find your reason! Make it bigger and stronger than you reasons not to. THIS IS HARD!

I think this is such an interesting question. I got the impression that the op was offered almost as a realistic cost saving alternative to the financial costs of treating a future 40 years of diabetes. Much of what is currently being written about weight loss is that it is not just a question of willpower but a complicated hormonal issue complicated but a culture that pushes sugar and white carbs at every opportunity. But (I don’t have diabetes so have no first hand experience) what a lot of BSDers suggest is that the diabetes diet advice is currently just plain wrong so I have sympathy for those people to some extent.

What does seem clear is that we don’t have the money or organisation to tackle early diabetes and reverse it. But then I also believe in personal responsibility too and what would be interesting to know is what changed for us as a group that made us ready willing and able to change our way of eating? I for one have been overweight for years so why now? But also I was sad to see the young teenage boy who had been bought a drink by his sister who appeared unaware that he shouldn’t be having surgary pop- surely the family received enough diet education to know this was wrong.

It is so complicated. Hurray for the film which I think was great in raising the true awareness of what diabetes involves. It made me even more determined not to get it. Sad it didn’t look at the BSD

Finally do you think there are diabetics out there who are still in denial watching the movie saying things like amputation will never happen to me?

Couldn’t resist so weighed this morning and it looks like 2kg have gone! There again the amount of time I spent in loo had to count for something. Other half found it kicked in for him as he got up three times in night lol. Today I had smoked salmon and scrambled eggs for breakfast, soup for lunch and now about to have a feta cheese salad. Feeling brighter and less bloated. Onwards and downwards.

Hi to Emily and all 1st October starters!

I started the BSD two days ago and would also like to join this group for support. I have just finished reading the book and a number of your posts and I’m feeling very motivated.

I’m mid thirties, 5ft 6 with a starting weight of 16 stone, eekkk! a long way to go to get to my ideal 11 stone, and back to feeling great on the beach!! Also looking forward to feeling fit, healthy and energised again.

Hi everyone, well it’s going well so far and hubby and I went along to get the key ingredients for most of the recipes so the cupboard is well stocked.
We had the salmon for lunch today with lemon nutty crust on bed of med roasted veg was yummy 🙂
I don’t know about anyone else but still suffering shocking with headaches so I guess it’s the body reacting to sugar withdrawal. Drinking plenty so I’m hoping these will subside after week 1 when the body has accepted it.
Still smiling and hopefully losing weigh in is Sunday! X

Hi Captainlynne.

Just watched the Panaroma programme and I agree wholeheartedly that this programme should be shown to all non-compliant and prediabetic people, who should then be given a free BSD book and BSD recipe book. I am sure that the cost of this would be far cheaper that the cost of the surgery shown in the programme.
I realise that there are some individuals who would still not take any notice and change their lifestyle (we have a close relative who would easily fit into this category) but at least they would have been given the opportunity.
Sorry if I have offended anyone but I don’t believe that the cost of operations to fit gastric bands or removing parts of the stomach is the way to go when it is obvious that the person could have lost the weight themselves. I think in the programme it states that the lady lost weight in order to have the band fitted!!!! There are so many people out there who are desperate for operations for conditions they have no control over and their operations repeatedly get cancelled.

Hi Mytime

The easiest way to measure carbs is with either an app or PC program. I use Fatsecret as do several people here. There is a uk version, fatsecret.co.uk and a US version fatsecret.com. Not sure which of these would suit you. I did see another one on one of the threads that another Australian was using but can’t remember the name! Sorry! Think it may have been eat….. something!!!

There is also Myfitnesspal , but I found that a bit messy.

Just weigh your food pop it into the program and it will throw out the carbs, calories, protein etc.

Hope that helps.

I found it really scary also. I didn’t expect it to happen and it happened so fast – I think it was not knowing what to do was a bit scary. What I found really helpful was carrying glucose/dextrose tablets with me everywhere so I could avoid blood sugars dropping too low, and I kept on testing to check what was going on. I did end up with fingers like pin cushions though.

I think you will do really well while you are away – although I do agree that the restaurants are a lot easier than meals prepared by families.

Your trip sounds as though it will be fabulous – and you do have another week before you go.

Will try. Thanks

Hi everyone, thanks so much for your encouragement, it means a lot and really works!! I am now losing again, hooray, and back on low carb. Not quite back to 800 cals but I think if i can stick to very low carbs I will be ok as my hunger is much reduced. Just need to watch my nut intake!! How are you all doing this week? X

Jules, Maybe if my class mates were French but there is a mix of English, French, Reunionaise, Russian and North African. I think actually you might be right. Sorry, edited, I missed out the Japanese girl.

Hi, I would like to join you for the challenge! How do you measure the carbs?

It would be good as she can run pretty fast when there is a rabbit in sight. But I don’t think I’ll ever get my ribs out like that, no matter how much I lose. No I think a BMI in the healthy range would do.

Sunshine-girl, surely that would have added to the authenticity…..

If you keep the slices thick and just bake them until they slightly change colour they keep their shape and “vegetable” texture.

Jules that sounds much more to my taste, even though I don’t like aubergine!!!! Do they go slimy when you bake them because it’s the texture rather than the flavour I dislike ?

I find a cup of miso staves off the hunger pangs for about an hour or more if you add a chopped spring onion and a chunk of tofu.

Try & go with the flow Canidoit & try to ignore any hunger pangs. Sipping water helps or a hot drink, my oh & I have Bovril instead of soup because it gives some salt & savoury flavour because we are all drinking much more water & a little salt helps stop dehydration. I hope your mouth is not sore?
Like Frog I weighed first thing this morning before drinking anything without clothes!

Moment of truth!!!!!

Just had my diabetic review appointment for October 31st. I think I’d lost 2 or 3 kg at my last check in May and the nurse was pleased with that, but have probably lost a further 7kg here. Sooooo … my new target is to lose another 3kg this month to make it a nice round 10!!!!

Looking forward to the review with trepidation especially my Hba1c!!!

Having lost so much weight last week I know that it will slow down dramatically but hopefully 7lbs in 27 days is doable!

19 weeks and 41 weeks….I hope I’m going to last even half as long as this! Thank you both for the advice you’ve posted throughout the forums – it’s very welcome!

Heather, there is no such thing as no carbs in 2 of the recipes. I think you have taken it too literally, the no carbs refer to 2 meals that normally have a whacking great chunk of bread (the ploughman’s) and I hate to get you started on the no carb bircher, meaning it is not made up of the usual grains. It is a title not carved in stone, which you wouldn’t really carve in stone, but take it with a pinch of salt so on and so on. I repeat it is not to be taken literally. For the purpose of yourself let’s change the name to low carb ploughmans – if you really want to get into semantics, it is not even a ploughman, that is a man who ploughs not a plate of food. Like igor I wish you well on the plan but picking holes in it does not help anyone. We have been more than happy to answer your other questions but you seem to be dwelling on this.

Not sure that you need all that oil, I reckon it must give the aubergine a weird texture. I make a similar curry but bake the aubergine (occasionally with a spray of oil). I dry fry the spices first before adding the tomato and a chunk of paneer.

🙂 Are you aspiring to be as skinny as your dog?!

Rhubarb’s not so bad, I had it with mackerel (no sugar the acid cuts through the fish oil – fab!) and I think it came in at 5g carbs for a decent portion. I’ve got a big bag in the freeze and will use it with yogurt/porridge when the weather gets bad.

Also a chunk is great in a cup of green tea!