Hi Penny. That’s not ridiculous at all as I did wonder myself at one point if that’s what it was. However, it’s lasted 7 days now, although I have to say that it also seems to be getting less agressive and not every time I eat but only in the mornings. Now it’s just uncomfortable. I haven’t felt sick with it which made me think it wasn’t/isn’t a bug. I did starve myself for about 30 hours at one point over Thursday and Friday which helped.

I’ve been sitting here this morning thinking what I ate last Sunday to wake up with this on the Monday. Because my Granddaughter wanted to treat everyone to a kebab on Sunday I had their chicken and salad. Now I’m wondering if there was something wrong with the chicken and this has been a mild form of food poisoning. I’ve had food poisoning once before and I was very ill then for nearly a fortnight before it was totally out of my system.

But I do feel as if I am now coming out the other side as I’m feeling a lot better.

Very frustrating and disappointing that some of you are not getting the support from your GP. We are trying to educate clinicians about the principles and the science behind it, but it is early days and takes time to filter through. We hope they will listen.

Wonderful to see how well people are doing and also how well informed you are. Lots of brilliant advice being shared.
Hope you get to where you want to be
Clare (Michael’s wife & a GP)

Hi Ddraig, I have switched to Michael’s suggestion of ice cold sparkling water with a slice of lemon when I feel like something other than plain water. I actually slice my lemons up and freeze them then just add a frozen slice to my water. I’m going to try those Moroccan meatballs after reading your comment! Good work losing 6lbs in a week!! Well done!

Hi Bill, I do the same, I just follow the recipes and have lost 19lbs in 25 days. It’s so encouraging to see such fast results.

Hi Rosy, I too have back problems – mostly discs. My GP and physio told me to try a pilates for bad backs class which is run locally by a well trained person. I was petrified at the first class because I could not move without pain but came out with much less pain and more movement. It is worth trying. I do those exercises and the resistance exercises from ‘The trust me I’m a doctor’ series and just try to walk as many steps a day as possible ( I put my pedometer in my pocket as soon as I get up and only take it out when I go to bed) if I feel I am not going to get enough steps in I just walk up and down the stairs a few times and up and down the garden.

That is fantastic!

I have lost 19lbs since starting this diet on 20th January and am feeling great. I have actually found this much easier than the 5:2 diet because I stopped feeling hungry after 3 or 4 days. It always felt like going back to hunger pangs each day I had a 5:2 fast day. Will it be possible to maintain health/weight by doing two consecutive days of 800 calories rather than 2 days in a week of 500 calories?? Now that the weight is falling off I am thinking about how to maintain this when I lose another 12lbs.

Hope it is still going well for you! I am now happy to say I have lost 19lbs since starting on 20th January and have a BMI of 24.5. Can’t believe it myself except my jeans keep slipping down. When I lose another 12lbs I will treat myself to some new clothes. I have chronic asthma and bronchiectasis as well as hashimoto’s hypothyroidism (which puts me at some risk of developing diabetes) and I have got to say I feel 10 years younger and much healthier since starting this diet. Can’t thank Michael Mosely enough.

Well I can say that this has been a great week, I’ve dropped 6 lbs as of this morning.

I have a tray of guilt free brownies in the oven, had to modify the recipe a little as I mistakenly put 6tbs of coconut oil in instead of 4! Cocoa nibs are expensive! Of course I then didn’t have any more almond flour so added coconut flour instead lol, I’ll let you know how they taste.

Made the morrocan meat balls last night, they taste awesome, loved the potatoless moussaka 🙂 our name for the Aubergine, lamb and pomegranate dish.

I find breakfast the most difficult, I also know if I don’t have it I’ll end up “picking” so I’ve bought two tubs of avidlight protein shakes to have just for first meal.

The skinny bol was lovely, and the flat mushrooms with cheesy beans went down a treat.

Partner bought me a card, flowers and a box of extra dark Lindor lol, I’ve already worked out the calorie content of each piece and added it to my list.

I was forcing myself to down the local tap water, run through a filter, realised it was going to be difficult so bought sugar free squash and am making up a very weak 1st bottle, just enough to take the edge off.

So, week one, minus 6lbs, not a bad start and long may it continue 🙂

Ddraig xx

Had a really bad day yesterday. Just felt really really hungry. Had breakfast from menu which just didn’t do it for me. Then decided to have lunch which was still good foods. Still didn’t do it so decided about 4 pm to have dinner from menu. Okay so far you say BUT then I really needed something sweet. And had dried dates and a handful of cashew nuts and then again, then just kept eating the nuts. I knew I shouldn’t but I could stop. Then later on made a pancake and had sugar and lemon on. I know Michael says okay start again tomorrow which I am going to do. I know where this came from I built myself up to it by saying on Thursday night and again Friday that I won’t be able to manage over the weekend. So kind of ingrained the thought in my head. Lesson, to me, from this, is to know when it happens again to change the thought process. So today am going to try and think of a method to counteract Thursday’s thoughts. And am going to start Michael’s mindful technique too.
Oops rather long sorry, but hoping it may help me understand me a bit more by writing it out.

Hi

I’m just startling day 7 & and have lost 6 lbs so far. I want to encourage everyone that this initial weight loss is not water loss, because I have been on a low carbohydrate diet for a couple of weeks before starting this, so my water loss was in January. The downside is that my BMI is over 37, so I have a lot of weight to lose, and I’m a man, so weight loss seems to be quicker in men.

Richard

Enzo. What are you talking about? How can muscle weigh more than fat? A pound is a pound be it feathers or lead. Muscle does not weigh more than fat, any more than lead weighs more than feathers.
A pound is a pound is a pound. Where the misunderstanding often comes in is that muscle is much more dense than fat, so that, by volume, it seems to weigh more. That is, a pound of muscle occupies less space than a pound of fat.

That’s amazing, well done. And very motivating. I’m on day 3. Have lost 2lb which is encouraging. Great that you have managed 8 weeks – I’ll be pleased if I manage 2!! Enjoy your trip 🙂

Thanks, I like the sound of that.

The marinated ingredients which included tofu & wedges of different coloured peppers. Very filling and delicious and I could eat it with my eyes open! I cant get my head round a gp saying that about carbonated water. Does the carbonation produce acidity… How many calories in tooth enamel… Blueberry, spinach, goat milk yogurt and flaxseed shake for me for breakfast as I’m feeling really full still from last night’s dinner. How’s it going with the blood tester now Janet?

I watched a really good documentary film on Netflix last night called “Hungry for Change” it really backed up the principal’s of the BSD.
It also exposés the ways that the food industry has been addicting us to the wrong foods for years!
And poisoning us with chemical’s.
More than anything else it convinced me that the BSD and following the Mediterranean way of life is the way forward to a hopefully long and happy life.

My occasional desire for chocolate is satisfied by having a couple of squares of very dark chocolate (85% coca) I niibble at it and let it melt on my tongue. I get such an intense “high” which would only be obtained by eating a family bar of Dairy Milk. But the difference is I get the benefit of the dark chocolate without the sugar rush and subsequent “crash” Of milk chocolate.

It could take s while. Advice is to stay on insulin with til your levels start to drop then reduce gradually also talk to doc.
Penny

Hi Fred
I think they’re all good- check out the nutrients- and good to vary them. Just take account of their calories. For instance if I have cashews I have 3, but almonds I have 5 etc
Penny

Hi fitjacq
You could use the nuts you’re ok with?
Also other sources of fats eg s bit of olive oil on your veg.
Penny

Hi Capo
Lots have people have written that their sugar is higher on waking. There’s a technical name for it which I’ve forgotten. I imagine it’s to get people some energy in the morning, if they have normal Sugar levels that’s not a problem. I think the advise to get a doc to test you is sound.
Penny

Hi Chinta
That all sounds great.
Penny

Hi Dandy
You poor thing , that sounds awful.
Forgive me if this is totally ridiculous, but could you have had a stomach bug? Those symptoms in a non IBS person would indicate that. Just a thought. Hope you feel better soon.
Penny

Hi Captainlynne
That’s amazing. Thanks for telling us. Very encouraging.
Penny

Hi Melanie
Interesting that people argue with the science- it seems cast iron to me!
Penny

Hi Shrinky
I had the opposite experience, which is even more alarming, drinking litres of water but not seeming to urinate more! So I got some herb tea that is diuretic- hawthorn tea- now I’m ok.
Must be very inconvenient for you if you have to rush like that but maybe it’ll settle down?
Penny

Hi Stringbreaker
I totally agree. I weigh myself every day and waist measure.
What’s the theory behind the sacredness of only weighing once a week? For me it makes the disappointment much worse. With daily weighing you know what’s going on.
Penny

Shrinky, I didn’t know that about carbonated water. I guess its something else I’ll have to research!

Auntylil,
Quinoa!
I’m guessing you were having something with tofu? But I have no idea what the gone off jellied eel is…unless it really is gone off jellied eel?

Quinoa was pretty bland (never mind looking awful) but I only had 30g of it and the bag is 300g so I guess I will have to shut my eyes. Was yours any better?

Hi Paul
Another good one is frittata with some salad
Penny

Hi swabs
I’m in a similar position. Have lost 4 lb in total and I’ve done 13 days. Walking 1000s of steps a day. It’s strange. My sister has list nothing in 16 days. But she’s been ill and not active. However she has lost 3″ and I’ve lost 2″ off our waists. Which is great.
I think our diets were quite healthy already, only the carbs are different so that may be relevant. We were eating no junk food and almost no sugar anyway but of course lots of rice and wholemeal bread!
Anyway we both feel better on the diet and I’m sleeping much better so we re keeping going.
Eventually something must happen!
Good luck
Penny

Hi Janet
Good point
Penny

Hi Merseychic
I’m even slower. On day 13, have lost 4 lb in total, been sticking to calories, no grains, walking 1000s of steps a day.
But I feel a lot better and sleeping a lot better so I’m keeping going. Anyway it’s not hard to do.
Good luck
Penny

Hi joycey
Great you’re feeling better.
A lot of people have said about higher readings on waking. I think I’ve read that it’s s natural thing that is to give some energy in the morning which with normal BG isn’t a problem. So I think don’t worry about that if it goes down later.
Michael says have half a plateful of appropriate veg and don’t weigh it. I think it’s on the forums somewhere. This has caused some confusion but I suppose that’s what we should do. It’s not huge calories anyway so I think go for it. I am!
Penny

Hi Bill
Thanks for the link.
I looked at one or two recipes but haven’t found one without sugar yet. Maybe there are some!
Penny

My dentist advised me not to drink carbonated (fizzy) water, as the acidity caused problems with teeth enamel!

*EDIT* These recipes are just for one week….

Try here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3404259/Eat-beat-diabetes-just-eight-weeks-s-life-changing-diet-help-avoid-reverse-Type-2-diabetes-best-s-tasty-way-health.html

I have printed recipes from here. I have the kindle version of the book and found the recipes hard to follow and unable to print them. I think these are the same as the book but I haven’t started yet- i’m getting ready for Monday 15th Feb so just in the process of reading and getting organised 🙂

Hi Magiek

Know & understand your frustrations. I’m type 2 & due a review. My GP didn’t want to know & they are closing the surgery too!

The General Medical Council http://www.gmc-uk.org headline Good medical practice :
Dr’s must treat patients as individuals. Dr’s must listen to you & respond to your questions & concerns

All Party Parliamentary Group for Diabetes http://www.publications.parliament.uk list KEITH VAZ – Labour Party , as
Chair & Registered Contact. House of Commons London SW1A 0AA. Tel 020 7219. Email vazk@parliament.uk

I believe both he & Theresa May – Conservative party, are diabetics.

Good to have that info too Think I’m getting militant. All I want is an ear an open mind & a blood test down the road

Good luck keep at it
Eureka

Anna, I’m wondering that myself. I’ve never been to Prague so no idea what meals will be available. It’s only 4 nights so hopefully it’ll be ok. Looks like some protein available at hotel breakfast. Just have to make best choices from what is available. Fortunately I don’t drink alcohol so that won’t be a temptation! Exploring should be good exercise! Might food shop in market/supermarket and sneak back into hotel 😃. Outward flight is 2pm so will try to get good meal at airport beforehand. Flight back is 12.30 so will try to get meal at airport – if not landing back in UK 13.45 so could eat on arrival. Just one more thing to try and plan LOL. Thinking I could have picked somewhere better for this holiday LOL.

I’m keeping careful records, so will see how it goes 😊

That’s great news Bill, you must be so pleased. Your posts and experiences are encouraging.
It’s hard at first to change the way we think about food. There’s a lot of blame directed at type 2 diabetics, and a lot of guilt we feel when we can’t get our blood sugar/ weight down. So good to have some decent research and advice at last. Can’t wait for it to filter through to the whole population. Maybe the big food manufacturers will feel the pressure then to produce healthier food, can only dream!

Hi
Can anyone tell me if there is a printable version of the 4weekneating plan that is at the back of the book. I am in a pretty intensive job and often work long hours. When I get home if the evening meal is not simple then I eat badly. If I had the menu plan in clear view and can create a shopping list from that I will find it easier to be organised and stick to the plan. I have purchased a digital version of the book but don’t seem to be able to print those pages. Sure they avsilable as download somewhere?

Thanks for your assistance
Wendy

Well done Hercules a very great first week…. you may well need to call on your Herculean powers to complete this voyage!

I have an a agamatrix wavesense jazz kit. The replacement strips are the cheapest I could find… about £13 for 50. I do mine daily, but I’m sure it’s not necessary, especially if your readings are consistent. Good luck with your eight weeks Ed.

Day 13 and hubby has lost 12.5 pounds and I have lost 12 pounds so far. Nearly our 1st stone! Enjoyed this week the peanut butter dip – delicious and very satisfying. Mexi Platter was lovely, so too was the Cottage Cheese, Pear and Walnuts – very filling. Favourites this week have been the Mushroom Risotto – we added some chicken to this – very nice. Also enjoyed the Bolognaise too.

Noticed slight blurred vision this week – this is due to lowering blood sugar. Hubby had it the week before but it soon wore off.

Hippo

Hello Fatcat and AnnaJennings.

I must admit i’ve not made the cloud bread yet. Glad yours turned out well AnnaJennings.

I’ll have been on it a week tomorrow and at at this morning, have lost 8lbs. I must admit it’s been easier than i thought.

How is it going now Fatcat? Are you missing the cereal and bread? I suppose I miss my porridge, i just used to have it plain with perhaps a sliced banana on top, but have cut it out altogether, same with bread. I started making my own bread recently and bought a breadmaker. I don’t like all the preservatives and sugar that’s in commercially made bread.

If you are massively increasing your exercise you will be increasing your muscle mass , which weighs more than fat, which is wht your scales may show no loss 🙁 BUT increased muscle mass will help you burn calories this coming week 🙂

The figures in the book are often averages so there will be people who lost a lot and others not so much. So its not just you Nessie! But still a kilo a week is better than most other diets so be chuffed!

Oh dear, what was it? Thank you for making me giggle. I’ve always thought the skin like stuff that comes off broad beans are like toe nails. Off now to cook some marinated cubes of polystyrene and wedges of gone off jellied eel.

Weight loss at the start of a diet is often water, so if you don’t lose straight away, maybe you had less water to get rid of..