No point me posting you the 5 remaining cans of the multipack then, Hashimoto!

I’ll try not to Penny!

Food for yesterday:
Breakfast: 2 egg and sour cream microwaved custard with cinnamon, nutmeg, 10 raisins and 3 tspns cream

Lunch: a slice of ham, creme fraiche, pickled onions, gherkins, cherry toms, 4 almonds

Dinner: home made lamb and green lentil.soup, with onion, carrot, rosemary, mint and wild garlic

Drinks: water, still and sparkling, buttermint teas, one coffee – half and half milk and water

Snack: half an apple

Cals: 760, Carbs: 51g

Food for today:
Breakfast: Greek yogurt with half a small pear, cinnamon and 2 teaspoons cream

Lunch: a slice of ham, an ounce of cheddar, tablespoon of cream cheese, tablespoon of guacamole, gherkin, pickled onions, cherry toms with basil, pickled jalapenos

Dinner: 3 egg omelette/frittata with onion, red pepper, garlic, gammon, basil, cheddar cheese

Snack: half an apple

Drinks: sparkling water, buttermint teas, coffee with milk

I didn’t plan today’s food in advance and winged it a bit, but making sure I kept the carbs down. Calorie count was higher at 1004, but carbs were 41, so we’ll see what the scales say tomorrow.

Has anyone else tried freekeh? Lower in calories than brown rice and more fibre than quinoa. Good in lots of low GI recipes. And selling in our local Cole’s supermarket here south of Sydney.

Missay diet ginger beer was my tipple of choice too. Note the was. I noticed a chemical aftertaste as well 🙁

Lynne – it’s a strange feeling when it happens, isn’t it? I was a bit put out because I was looking forward to it, but at the same time pleased, because it was another success for this way of eating!

Christi – I tried Truvia when it first came out, but really didn’t like it. To me, it tested of liquorice. I like liquorice (that may be ‘liked’ in the past tense now, of course) but not in my coffee! I find xylitol doesn’t have any aftertaste for me, and it is granular, which I also like for the crunch. I haven’t used much on this diet though. I’ve noticed on discussions on other forums in the past, that there seems to be very individual responses to the flavour of sweeteners. I have friends who use Truvia, and don’t taste the liquorice taste at all, but it was very strong to me. I find xylitol the best I’ve tried, but I know some people get an aftertaste with it.

Hi captainlynne
I don’t bake for our church cake stall, however when they have one we have a standing order for coffee and walnut cake that one of the dad’s make, I could make it too we just have it to give funds to the church. I don’t know what we will do in future, just keep getting it and I will leave the room while it’s being eaten! Can you just see that happening!
Good job I not into fizzy drinks, except the occasional Bacardi and Coke, and I mean occasional, my last one was at Christmas!

Hi Penny,
If your soy yoghurt has live bacteria in it should be a good substitute. I’ve used natural yoghurt as a starter for making bread when I accidentally killed my sourdough starter. Yoghurt makes a good raising agent in bread.
I’ve been experimenting with lupin flour lately trying to make a decent dough for pizza bases and focaccia. Had some spectacularly awful failures up to now. They look impressive but are very dry. Think I’ll need to up the oil, so they won’t be low cal unfortunately.

Hi missay
Have you tried Truvia, it’s stevia only truvia’s a brand name, only it isn’t a chemical like the little pill ones. Cheers christine

Good sleuthing maryr, I’m still reeling with shock at the amount of sugar added to meat 🙁

Hi fch53
Ok thanks, cheers christine

Hi pmshrink
Yes thanks I am getting there, cheers christine

Hi hashimoto
Yes the doctor was quite helpful giving me some good advice on moving forward, (not in the excercise way though! Thankfully) I hate doing it. Just have to do the best I can when I feel like it, we are going swimming in the morning with the three granddaughters, whether I get any excercise is debatable though! Cheers christine

Hi Christi. I sometimes have to bake for church – my specialities are/were Mars Bar Cake and banana bread! The thought of it is making me feel ill now😱

Like many on here I never thought I’d lose my sweet tooth, but it has happened.

Misssay- that happened to me the other day. I used to love diet lemon and lime drinks but had been drinking lots of sparkling water instead. I was shopping and needed a drink, so bought the diet lemon and lime. Two mouthfuls was more than enough & I had to pour it away when I got home bit was far too sweet😳

Hi janet1973
Very reassuring about you having an after eight, a couple of weeks ago my granddaughter, Dana had a packet of maltesers, she gave me one, (she is so generous and lovely and only five) then because I hesitated, hoping she would go off and play, then I could give it to someone else, she just stood there and said go on eat it, go on, go on, so I had to eat it in front of her, it was so sweet, I thought I had cracked it, but I am craving sugar really badly at the moment, and I don’t know why.
As to the fage yogurt I will have to have a look for it, I’ve never heard or seen it and I have been having yogurt for years, I haven’t has half fat or 0% yogurt in years, thankfully!
Thanks for the help. Cheers christine

Bill- I sent it
BTW
I just found a great sounding recipe on dietdoctor.com. It’s called ‘soft low carb loaf of bread. ‘ I can’t put it on here because it’s not my recipe, but people might like to try it. I just need to work out non dairy alternatives for the cream cheese and heavy cream. I’m thinking soya yogurt.
Penny

Hi Rob how is it going? Were the menus janet and I made any use to you? 🙂

Hi all, sorry a bit late with this, a weekend away for an Irish wedding- they do know how to party!
Some time ago I looked at the cold/cooked meats and sugar issue for a different reason, and was amazed that the ONLY sugar free products I could find were CooP “Loved by us” Brunswick ham, and the Waitrose smoked Brunswick ham. I didn’t check other supermarkets though. All the rest, ham, chicken slices etc were all prepared with sugar (or dextrose- same thing!). Crazy.

Fantastic. That’s great 😃

Result!

I use these a lot to give extra body to Asian salads (chicken and mint vietmanese salad is my favourite) and stir fries. I don’t like them as a subsitute for pasta or rice because their texture is different but great in strong flavoured asian dishes.

Hi Christi,
I must admit I kept reading on here how so many people were saying they had lost their sweet tooth, but like you I wasn’t convinced it would happen to me! Tonight, I decided to have a diet ginger beer, ice cold. I used to really enjoy them. I have just tipped most of it down the sink, and filled up my glass with sparkling water! No one is more amazed than me. It was far too sweet and I could really taste the chemical taste from it. I have used an occasional sprinkle of xylitol sweetener during the diet, but I suspect this was aspartame. Whether I would be the same with some ‘real’ sugar, I don’t know…

Great Lucia. 😃

I’m looking for new trousers- have no old, smaller ones hidden away -,but can I find any in the right size/colour/style? Of course not! This could get embarrassing 😳

Hi Christi
People seem to find that eventually the addiction goes and sugar just isn’t very nice. It just seems to happen after a while.
Penny

Congratulations! That’s a real achievement.

Great news Judith 😃

Hi rob
I’m still learning things about this forum, just getting my head round the 50g carb idea, plus struggling with the (still) no sugar thing, good job I’m not diebetic just pre-diebetic, good to read your posts though, keep them coming.

I don’t think I will ever lose my sweet tooth either Christi. I had some after 8s on Sunday and they were lovely! The difference now though is I was able to enjoy them but then stop. I didn’t need to keep going for more and then anything else in the cupboard /fridge. I think I am finally learning the true meaning of an occasional treat and I think I can live with that.

Hi Fch53
It does seem wrong at first but you get used to it. After 8 weeks and 2 days I now accept that Fat is My Friend!
We ve been subjected to such a lot of propaganda but we re fighting back!
Good luck
Penny

Thanks Penny – I’ll have a shufti

John

Hi, found these noodles referred to in the 5:2 diet recipe book, they are called zero or shiritaki noodles, can be bought in the better larger supermarkets and on Amazon, a bit prices but Asian supermarkets sell them cheaper. When I googled them found a good video on YouTube that shows how to drain and dry them then dry fry in a non stick pan, not tried but very tempted.

I bet your doctor was pleased too christi 🙂

Hi Christi
Sounds to me like you’re doing everything absolutely right!
Penny

Ordered the full fat version for delivery tomorrow, along with some frozen summer berries and will try as alternative breakfast one day.

Fch it does seem so wrong – but so good.:)

Hi Stringbreaker
The figure of 50g comes from diet doctor.com, an interesting website on low carb diets.
Re the white rice/ lentils etc. Yes, the GL is the thing, but you don’t really need to go into that if you just avoid the obvious ones like white rice , bread, pasta, sugar.
If you’re sticking to 50 g you will get that much from other sources anyway.
Penny

The key to ketosis seems to be carbs rather than cals and 50g is around the limit to achieving it. Some of us in the forums count carbs instead of cals and do test for ketosis but neither of these things are the priorities for Dr Mosley in the fast 800. His objective is only to help people lose weight quickly and, for people who are T2 ir pre-T2, to start correcting blood sugars levels.

Hi captainlynne
I have Mary Berry and Dehlia’s cook books, plus lots of others too, unlike you I have to make cakes when the family come, our eldest is coming tomorrow with three of the boys, she is an expert at doing cakes, she makes them for all her friends birthdays, so I have made a chocolate cake, ( one of my favourites) will do scones in the morning, I don’t think I will be able to resist the occasional cake! However until I finish this diet I will resist.
Don’t think I will ever be free of the sugar addiction, not sure either how to combat it, do I treat it as though I’m a junkie!
My son lives in the Fulwood area of Sheffield, they moved recently and are having an extension, so have had to move in with our daughter in laws mum and dad, good job they don’t live far away, unlike us!

Just looked up for my groceries list and fage is the brand name on total Greek yoghurt. Been buying it for years and I never noticed. Got to buy full fat now though. Seems so wrong.

Oh, the carton says ‘fage total’ on it for both varieties

Its a brand name of a real Greek yoghurt rather than a greek-style yoghurt so its even lovelier. Ican get it in Asda so I’d say the other biggies will have it. Be careful to get the full fat and not the 0%.

Missay- Sounds great! Don’t work too hard!
Penny☺️

Hey Christi
Thats excellent news and right in front of the doctor too! I’m glad you had a great time with your family. I’m in Rotherham so not too far from your grandchildren in Sheffield.

I’ve done my second day on my treadmill (only half an hour not the whole day) and achieved my best ever fat burning result with the ketostix tonight. A lovely dark pink number 8! Celebrations all round!

Bill,

I had blood tests taken at 3 months post-diagnosis. My A1c is normal (as is my lipid panel) – but it is normal only because I strictly limit my carb consumption. Anything that makes it climb out of the non-diabetic normal range has been eliminated from my diet. My BG numbers have been non-diabetic normal since 3 days after diagnosis (the first time I was brave enough to test) – before I lost any weight, and before the Metformin (500 mg ER/day) would have had a chance to make a contribution.

I also periodically retest foods I’ve tested earlier, to see if my carb tolerance has improved – and there has been no change (even with 49 lbs of weight gone). So I can clearly (at least at this stage) completely manage my symptoms by eating low carb. But I’m also clearly not altering the disease course – my hope for this change in eating!

What I’m eating isn’t really changing (aside from dropping the top-it-off fat content I have to do at 1200 calories), although I am adding slightly larger quantities of pulsies. What is different for me is the quantity and timing – which is why I tightly monitor my calories.

I’m all for sharing detailed information about whatever works – I managed to put my daughter’s chronic disease in remission for 2 decades because of a relatively random thought someone shared in a forum very similar to this one for her disease, about some small discovery they had made.

I need some help with something, have been catching up with the posts as have been busy for a couple of days, can you please tell me what ‘fage’ yogurt is and where do I get it?

Hi Meredex
There is no mention of ketosis in the book, and I am not sure it the calories are low enough. No expert as I am day 3 as well, but think the aim is to reduce your blood sugar by only eating slow release carbs and even limited those this getting your liver and other organs concerned with the processing of food to work properly. The concept is we eat way too many easy digestive carbs these days, bread, sugar, pasta, etc and it is making us ill.

How are you finding day 3?

Spiraliser arrived this evening, but after I had cooked tea so it will have to wait till another day. Had stir fired veg with paprika chicken. The rest had wedges but mine was tasty even though I didn’t add any sause, just a little Olive oil and garlic.

Had and odd day today. Had very little for lunch but wasn’t hungry once. And I am starting to feel strangely well, plus got so much work done as I felt so …. awake. Anyone else felt like this?

It would be good to have a thread for carb and calorie content of common foods 🙂

Hi Janet 1973
Still getting my head round the 50g carbs a day, however I have lost one and a half stone now, when I got up Wednesday morning I weighed myself as I was at the doctors later in the day, I was 20lb down on the diet, I got to the doctors and got on the scales and I had lost another pound I was 21lb down! Well pleased with myself, hopefully I can carry on losing if I concentrate on 50g carb thing, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Catgirl i agree re james martin! And with his love of butter hes half way to being a BSDer lol

Thanks justdoit. As sunnyb said, keep at it things will improve and you have made an excellent start 🙂