Hi everyone, what a supportive blog. Excellent. I am still skipping brekky as I have made my own bread for years and breakfast to me is a slice of toast with sliced tomatoes and olive oil! All alternatives just don’t appeal, so black coffee is all I have! An egg without toast, no thanks. An egg on avocado?? Slime upon slime? I love avocado, but smashed on toast! There is cauli rice that is a great rice substitute, but what is a bread substitute?
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posted by PeteSuffolk on Im about to start and have some questions
on 26 Apr 2016 at 08:16 in Welcome to the BSD -
Hi Meredex
please don’t give up yet. The fact that you are in ketosis proves that you are doing things right and some people, for some reason, do tend to lose slower than others. Have you seen any other benefits such as feeling and sleeping better, or do any of those former too tight clothes now feel slacker?
The evidence that carbohydrates are bad for you is all over not just this forum, but the internet now, so I you do feel like you have to give up, please control your carb intake, it really is a healthier lifestyle.
I know it sounds like I’m preaching from a good position but I truly believe that, unless there is some obscure medical reason, that this way of life is the answer to type 2 diabetes and weight problems. -
posted by Chongololo on The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step (Lao Tzu) …
on 26 Apr 2016 at 08:12 in Fast 800Hi there,
Toast, steamfresh vege bags with ikea meatballs, too much cheese with crackers, naked coleslaw with protein – i have been in a yoghurt for breakfast phase at least. All just grab and go – minimal cooking.
my downfall is lollies and too many snacks, too many nuts – sky-high appetite! When I do cook it is curries and chilli – which I get thoroughly sick of eating afterwards, even if I only use a small pack of meat. I don’t ever pan fry myself a protein, I would buy a smoked chicken breast or a pack of felafels. Guess that has to change. I hate hate making a mess in the kitchen, I hate wasting time in the kitchen getting food and then having to waste more time cleaning it up again.
interesting revelation, really! I am being silly – fighting a healthy diet tooth and nail psychologically still. I have no-one to please but myself, this is part of the problem I think. Self-indulgent excuses ahoy! I think I need to have a ceremonial ‘putting the toaster away in the cupboard’ moment and spend this fortnight giving myself a good shake. ๐
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Thank u!
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Well done Frank.
Not only is your story going to inspire others on the forum but you seem to have convinced a medical professional that low carb really is the way to go for T2D sufferers
That one little thing could make a massive difference to countless others if she starts recommending it to her other patients.
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That’s 6lbs in 4 weeks, which is within the recommended rate of 1-2 lbs/week for most weightloss programs.
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Christine – I am not that active as my job is sitting at a desk 3 days a week. But I did run 600k last year (although it didn’t work in terms of losing weight – it’s the BSD did that!). This year I am jogging much less but yes I am adding Pilates to the mix, mainly because I need to for a hip injury! And you should remember that by Lucia’s calculations I am only 24. OK, 42๐ So a bit more activity than i currently do is really called for.
My legs and shoulders are still recovering from Sunday’s gardening but I am going to shift my carcass out there now๐ -
posted by hashimoto on Im about to start and have some questions
on 26 Apr 2016 at 08:06 in Welcome to the BSDHi Petesuffolk, I meant to say welcome to you, ๐
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Lucia you can always log onto tge petition thread and leave a comment there – it brings the thread to the top and is.more likely to attract attention!
Soooo, I’m leaving you to investigate rather than tell you the number!! ๐
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Morning Lucia. Re herbs, I stuck chervil and bronze fennel, sweet woodruff and salad burnet in my garden on Sunday!
Confession though – my Pilates class booked for today will need to be cancelled as I am looking after someone this evening and busy this afternoon too. My day off work pretty busy today – but on the plus side I will get more work done on the garden this morning. Still not finished digging up the turf for my paths… it is back breaking work but oh so good for burning the calories and a better workout than any gym routine! -
Hi Hashimoto,
Foil is SO average, I was trying to sound posh and professional with my paper.Okay, go with the foil, it’s quicker, easier, faster, will hold its shape when you put liquids in, doesn’t need a cocktail stick, but apart from that…… I suppose it’s ok….๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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When I say …put the oven on….. I don’t want to see anyone putting their arms and legs in the oven or grill, trying to wear it. Come on people, this is serious…. You know metallics are SO 1970’s.๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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Hi Cdkent that’s a great first week, well done.
Isn’t it good to discover that healthy food can taste better than the stuff we have had pushed at us for years?
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Lucia, just use foil, it is MUCH easier!!!
I add veg to my parcel fish too. Chilli, garlic,lime, soy sauce first – then onion, mushrooms, tomato, courgette, pepper etc then you have an all in one meal
XxxxPS and no pan to wash after!
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What number are we up to with the petition please?
Love Lucia
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Bleu.
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Hi Christine, there is a video on how to use the cuisique – i think it is mentioned on the literature which comes with it. X
Just google ‘ cuisique spiraliser video’ its on youtube x -
Cordon
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So sorry to hear about your disappointing results Meredex. Did you have any waist/ hip measurements loss in that time? Or just the 6 lbs?
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And I am into … I think it is called parchment paper, or grease prof paper or baking paper.
You put a few slices of lemon in the middle of the sheet.
Place fish on top.
On other bit of lemon, now I like about thre tablespoons of liquid, lemon juice, or water.
So fold like a boat. Put the liquid in.
Then close the parcel up.
If your wrapping skills are a bit iffy. The I use a cocktail stick or wooden tooth pick through the top to hold it all in place. Then pop it in the oven.
You can add anything, veggies, sea grass, lemon grass, different herbs.So you are not standing for hours prep’ing the food.
You can always make the parcels earlier and stand then in a bowl or sided dish, then when you come in from work, put the oven on, put the parcel in, prep up a side salad or nuke or steam a bit of veg then the parcel should be done.
A Gordon blur meal in minutes. I know it is cor don blur but my speller is having a fit.
Love Lucia
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Well done Izzy, it looks like you’re all over this.
Yes things will slow down a bit but many of us have now proved that you don’t only get fast weight loss at first, you get consistent steady weight loss following that initial surge apart from the odd plateau.
Best of luck for the next 7 weeks -
posted by hashimoto on The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step (Lao Tzu) …
on 26 Apr 2016 at 07:44 in Fast 800Hi Chongolo, welcome to the forums ๐
If you don’t like mushrooms I would give those recipes a miss or use some salad to put the ingredients on!If you don’t like food prepping what have you been eating pre diet?
The recipes are tasty so you may feel inspired to do more prepping!Good luck ๐
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I know it’s great I don’t think I’ve ever lost that much in one week ๐ as well as seeing the FBS evidence too.
I also know it will slow down and that’s ok. I’m hoping for 8 lb’s per month that would be awesome. But in reality I’ll take whatever I can get any loss is a step forwards.
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What’s your favourite way if jazzing up a boring traditional recipe?
What is your absolute favourite herb or spice?
You can only pick one…….Mine was plain old boring mint, but now I have Rosemary. When cooking, it gives food a different personality.
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Hi team,
How are we all doing?
It’s very cold here this morning.
My face and hands were like ice.Everyone in work are full of colds, so much sneezing and blowing of noses and dampness there is a rainbow in the hallway!!
Have you ever tried to avoid people when there are millions of us in the building? It’s not easy.
Will go for another walk at lunchtime to blow away the germs.
Keep happy keep healthy.
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Hi Izzy, no wonder you are happy with results like that! ๐
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Wow that is fantastic Izzy – well done !
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posted by hashimoto on Dear diary: My life on the fast 800 + 16:8 intermittent fasting diet
on 26 Apr 2016 at 07:33 in Fast 800Hi Neodiver,
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posted by Chongololo on The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step (Lao Tzu) …
on 26 Apr 2016 at 07:33 in Fast 800Hello, I too took the leap today (well, official weigh-ins will be Mondays, but I had unfinished business with a packet of licorice bullets yesterday, so I began today)
I am sticking with shakes for the first fortnight, with one vege/protein meal at night. I HATE cooking (mess! volumes of food you have to finish up – boring) I know from experience I will be very glad to get off the shakes and take an interest in preparing food. I have never ever meal prepped before or shopped for a pre-planned week, and I suspect this is the only way I will get anywhere.
paying close attention to the what did you eat today thread to gather some inspiration ๐ I hate mushrooms, but the meals which use them as ‘toast’ look good, I need to find something else. I hate eggplant and capsicum all by itself too, eat else could be flat? – lots of zucchini in my future I think.
good luck, I hope we all succeed!
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I’m excited to join this thread ๐ just at the end of week one. I’ve lost 6 lbs and now I’m looking forwards to next week ๐
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Official week one results are in!! drum roll please…..
I’ve lost 6 lb’s, 1″ off my waist, 1.5″ off my bust and 1.5″ off my hips.
Fasting blood sugars although not particularly high starting at 5.1, has dropped to 4.5.
I’m totally happy with that ๐
Lets bring on week 2 ๐
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Well after so many good reviews I appear to be the exception to the rule. I have posted before about my slow weight loss and early plateau. It’s my 4th week. 4lb lost in the first 4 days, nothing for 10 then another 2,then nothing. I’m following the rules and have been in ketosis from day 4. I’m truly gutted. I was doing this for weight loss. I’ve got to loose weight (3.stone) so I’m guessing this diet isn’t for me. I’ve been waiting for my woosh and tried upping my fat but to no avail. It’s time to face facts that despite my best efforts it’s time to go. Yes this post is negative and for all successful dieters I’m sure you won’t believe me, but I can honestly say I’ve given it my all. Good luck X
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The health improvements are amazing. I hope Dr Mosley and Prof Taylor read it too! ๐
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Hi Napangardi, well done you!
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Subtract fibre from carb count wow this gets complex,I’m following the diet and myfitnesspal app says I’m having around 50g carbs is this correct
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Hi Toni, 10 kg is not that much. Many of us have lost 16 kg+. Take it more slowly and don’t feel guilty it is what is known as a “zero value added activity”. Fluids are important as is good fat and protein. We are aiming for a better balance all round. This British weather does not help either. Bank holiday coming and winter weather everywhere. I often you used to get ill if I took time off work and relaxed – it was then the colds and stuff used to hit me – as if they had been just under the surface waiting for an opportunity to surface and make my life miserable. Reducing carbs is good it is what you replace them with that makes the difference. Substituting sugar with sweetener is not that good an option but for creatures of habit it may be a way to see just how much they were dependent on sugary carbs. Alcohol is a habit that just needs breaking, we all can drink but not every day. Use your excess energy wisely, any exercise is good walking is also good for the mind. Have fun and don’t beat yourself up, look after your body – you know how to…
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Well today 18 days into this one stone off but fasting up to 8.0 following the plan exactly.
Don’t know wether or not to go back on the metformin ?
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Hello! I have completed day one of BSD and I am wide awake, can someone tell me how long this is likely to last for – until my body adjusts? I also realised I only ate 600 cals so will get it up to 800 tomorrow. For now I will continue to try and get some zZZZZZzzz!
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posted by Eureka on Dear diary: My life on the fast 800 + 16:8 intermittent fasting diet
on 26 Apr 2016 at 02:23 in Fast 800Hi neohdiver
Hope everyone gets their act together as much as you have got yours, on all fronts! Weight loss & blood sugars pretty good ( extra stress included).
It will be good for you to have all the info & op date sorted ASAP. Genetics are a bummer you can’t control, just have to deal with it! Sorry it’s so for you.Fingers crossed re everything x
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No, that doesn’t sound like too big a fall. ๐ and you landed on your feet.
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Hi Napangardi
Well done. Small steps. No one has to apologise for this diet. Your results will be evident soon enough! -
posted by Eureka on Unexpected SUGAR alert. Nature not good enough.
on 26 Apr 2016 at 01:56 in BSD Way of LifeHi Jackle WilsonSaid
Captainlynne will be proud of you. You know about the flea bite on the lion’s bum? Fleas multiply & lions don’t like it! Let’s all keep nibbling away -
B- 1 egg omelette with 20gms finely slice ham 50gm mushroom and 10 gm cheddar chesse
L- 100mls cauliflower and broccoli soup with blue cheese
D- Stir-fry chicken with carrots, capsicums, spring onions, baby spinach and cashew nuts
S- Milo
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posted by boomboombum on Kia ora! Any other NZers on here?
on 26 Apr 2016 at 01:48 in Welcome to the BSDFell off the 800 wagon over the long weekend, wasn’t too big a fall I think it was the spiced apple cake that did most of the damage along with a bottle of Last Shepard Pinot Noir………..climbed back on the wagon today, also order so Keostix’s which will show if I am in Ketosis (i.e. burning fat) will leave lost till later in the week.
But loved the weather over the weekend, did a couple of big walks, painted the fence, and fired up the Big Green Egg BBQ to roast/smoke a stack of peppers and tomato’s for lunchtime soups -
Hi hashimoto
Me too. It’s a great toy for cooks!
PS told my new GP about your great health improvement & of many other medical conditions listed on this site too. Hope he reads it -
posted by Eureka on The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step (Lao Tzu) …
on 26 Apr 2016 at 01:26 in Fast 800Hi Hawks
Ta for that one. My family love cauliflower cheese so will add Parmesan & good to go -
Hi Frank
That is a real result! Very well done. These stories are the proof needed that people have the willpower & tenacity to change their lives & medical prospects given the right information & course of action to take. We want to be better & help ourselves. -
Hello partners!
I am a very new member of the program – not quite a week so far.
I am about 10 Kgs overweight, not diabetic – but I would be surprised if I did not have a degree of fatty liver – even fatty pancreas?
I started the diet after having a holiday where I had everything I wanted and a fair bit of wine.
I was ready to take the plunge.
The biggest challenge for me was giving up the nightly glasses of wine – about 5 o’clock the desire for wine could become
preoccupying! I had a sense of shame about this craving and felt controlled buy it.
So, the good news is that I have been following the diet plan devotedly, and managing to avoid that 5 o’clock craving by having dessert before dinner – eg plain yoghurt and rhubarb coulis with a sprinkle of xylitol.
I have lost two Kgs. But I have managed to catch a cold and a headache for about three days – detoxing? – which, with the constant getting up in the night to urinate has meant I have not had good quality sleep.
I checked out the book this morning and there was the suggestion that headaches might relate to not taking in enough fluids so I will try that even though I already visit the toilet so often in 24 hrs.
I have, however, had a lot of excess energy – the trouble with not drinking at night is that it is hard to sit still in front of T.V. Ha ha! -
posted by neohdiver on Dear diary: My life on the fast 800 + 16:8 intermittent fasting diet
on 26 Apr 2016 at 00:18 in Fast 800Starting week 5.
Well, another week has gone by!
Last week was filled with medical visits and frustration at the ineptness of the administrative staff who – so far – have not gotten one thing right. My blood glucose went up far more due to avoidable glitches than to hearing that I have breast cancer.
Still good prognosis. Hormone receptor positive – and HER2 negative. A teeny chance I will need both chemotherapy and radiation therapy (based on the oncotype of the tumor) – but a much larger chance that I will only need radiation.
We’re waiting on genetic testing to decide between lumpectomy and bilateral mastectomy. If my particular genetic make-up puts my risk of recurrence or a new primary tumor at 60% or greater, my surgeon would recommend the more extensive surgery. (I could have one tomorrow, just based on family history – but I’m comfortable waiting for the test results so I have more information to make the decision.) It looks like surgery will be the week of the 16th or the 23rd of May.
So that’s my fun and games this past week. I may need to put the BSD on hold – I’ll talk to a dietitian tomorrow. Not that I necessarily trust the dietician if her focus is diabetes.
Here’s what my world looks like, so far. Pretty remarkable, given that 1.5 of the 4 weeks have included the added stress of a cancer diagnosis.
Week 1 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 5.05 mmol/l, T: 5.28 mmol/l W: 5.06 Th: 5.39 (highest in months) F: 4.44 S: 4.39 Sun: 4.44
Week 1 – Starting weight: 150.2 lbs – Ending weight: 147 lbs
Week 1 – High for the week: 7.72, Low for the Week: 4.06, Average for the week: 5.5Week 2 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 4.83 mmol/l, T: 4.72 mmol/l W: 5.11 mmol/l Th: 4.79 mmol/l F: 4.83 mmol/l S: 4.33 mmol/l Sun: 4.6 mmol/l
Week 2 – Starting weight: 147 lbs – Ending weight: 144.8 lbs
Week 2 – High for the week: 6.83 mmol/l Low for the Week: 3.5 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.27 mmol/l.Week 3 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 4.61 mmol/l, T: 4.72 mmol/l W: 4.67 mmol/l Th: 4.9 mmol/l F: 4.5 mmol/l S: 4.33 mmol/l Sun: 4.66 mmol/l
Week 3 – Starting weight: 144.8 lbs – Ending weight: 142
Week 3 – High for the week: 7.22 mmol/l Low for the Week: 3.9 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.5 mmol/l.
Note: High stress precipitated by early stages of cancer diagnosis.Week 4 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 5.05 mmol/l, T: 4.83 mmol/l W: 4.61 mmol/l Th: 4.67 mmol/l F: 4.67 mmol/l S: 4.67 mmol/l Sun: 4.33 mmol/l
Week 4 – Starting weight: 142 lbs – Ending weight: 140.8 (2 lbs from a normal BMI!!!)
Week 4 – High for the week: 8.39 mmol/l (in the wake of incompetent administrative stress) Low for the Week: 4.33 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.27 mmol/l.Note: Formal breast cancer diagnosis came on Monday, before my fasting BG reading. Might be why it was a bit higher!
Weight loss on Low Carb/Moderate Protein (179 days): 47.1 lbs Average BG 6.0
Weight loss on 800 Calorie Mediterranean Style food with 16:8 intermittent fasting (28 days): 9.4 lbs Average BG 5.39 mmol/l (lower, even after the breast cancer diagnosis and follow-up that came in bits and pieces starting the middle of week 3)
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Hi Ali,
Some people weigh daily, others weekly. It’s up to you, some people say they lose motivation if they weigh daily and the scales don’t move.
I weigh maybe once a fortnight as I’m maintaining my current weight. I’m now experimenting with how many, and what kind, of carbs I can eat to keep my blood sugars in the non diabetic range. Obviously not having any processed or sugary carbs, just increasing the amount slowly until I’m happy I can have a bit more fruit in my diet.
I’m sticking with this way of eating for life! So happy to have blood sugars in the non diabetic range. ๐