Shropshire is the most under- rated county in the country. Plenty of great walking so getting in your steps will be no problem. How disappointing to read about your medical appointment but your friends on here will help you rise above it.

Hey! I had porridge with banana for breakfast, rise with broccoli for lunch and I am trying to think what to have for dinner. My favorite is potato salad: 2 boiled potatoes, 1 egg mixed and half of onion mixed with a spoon of mayo.

Hi Izzy,
Can you tell me where to find the salt and crispy garbanzo bean recipe you have made?
Thanks so much! On last day of my first week and reading all your posts has really helped me! 💜

Hi Eureka and Bill

Eureka – thanks for the flowers😃 I’m used to being off script in more than this😃

Bill – I was curious what the result would be, and delighted with it. Very happy to be under 6!

When all the blood results come back (always assuming they send for me when they’ve said) that’s exactly what I was intending to do. Like many folk on here, know me better than a lot of people I know in ‘real life’ 😳 Trust me – I can more than stand up for myself 😃

Oh Jackie thank you! I will follow your advice and hopefully start to feel better soon. Please let me know how youre doing too?

X

I think most of the menus are around 800 but not exactly so 100 here or there should be ok. First thing you need is to feel better, then reduce calories again I would say. Please remember this is my opinion, I’m not an expert by any means. Some of the others will be better advisors as they have blood sugar issues so have a better understanding of it all. I know one lady is also a medical person of some sort and often gives great help.

Do what you feel is right. I think the most important thing is to keep at it. If you feel crap you are more likely to give up!

X

Hi Lynne despite the useless doctor that is a great result on the sugar front.
Get your holiday booked then you can go relax for a while, you deserve it.
when you get back you’ll be close to July nd when those test results come back, demand a revised diagnosis, I don’t know you that well but I’m sure you’ll stand up for yourself 🙂

Thanks Jackie, wont that slow the weight loss, going over 800 cals?
Will try the kedgeree, it does sound nice.

Rachel

Hi general lynne
First da dah! Great results 😀 💐 You have worked hard for this, we know it.
Second you are off script & she’s just the prompt in the wings? We want the playwright ✍🏻 to CHANGE the script; write a new one.
Third the army of proof is gathering behind you & the other big hitters doing BSD. The results ( when they find them) are in your records! They can’t screw with that. But get a print out of your blood results so you have a copy too. EVERYONE DO THAT!
Change is coming, they just don’t know it YET.

Hi Judith.

I’ve thought a lot about it while I was out and about. She wants/needs to lose weight herself, so that may have something to do with it. Plus the patients she sees who don’t make an effort to take control of their health.

But what chance do you have when the doctor gets it wrong?

Oh well, looks like that’s an appointment less each month. They should send for me for the diabetes review. Let’s see if they do!

And, yes, it was all healthy food. Among all the sparkling water, coffee and decaff there was the Cranberry and Red Orange tea I saw mentioned on here and some salmon. That will go nicely with some courgetti soon 😃

Going tomorrow to book the train tickets to London for my holiday early June. Staying overnight at hotel near Heathrow, then flying to Bologna to stay with friends who live in Cremona. On Monday I reserved a room at a b&b in Shropshire for early October. Thought it would be better to stay in this country because I need to renew my passport when I get back from Italy. It expires next March and I want a holiday abroad early next year o need to get it sorted. We keep being told to make sure we take holidays away and I’ve not been good at doing that, so,trying to do that this year. Might go in travel agents tomorrow and see what is available January/February/March – with sun.

Like Bill says don’t fret too much about calories keep off carbs and your body will adjust.

Also if you like curry try the kedgeree, I love it!

I am happy with my results today. I am down from 212 pounds to 204 pounds today , even with my small moments of weakness. I ate just enough to satisfy that stupid “behavioral thought” of oh no I can’t survive without sugar or carbs. So I had a handful of my homemade low carb crackers on a fasting day and then yesterday I had two Riesen chocolate toffee chews to satisfy that agravating monkey on my back that was begging and bargaining away my need for a taste of chocolate and caramel! Lol
A lot of this for me is boiling down to Mind over matter
Out thinking old behaviors
Being smarter than the old me!
What are your thoughts about
Behaviors we develop in relation to eating? Do you believe you can out think your old behaviors?

Oh Lynne what a disappointment!

At least I know you well enough to know you shopped for healthy food even after that appointment .

She should be dancing that someone is taking control of their health and asking you to be part of a patient participation group x

I don’t know I’m sure the statistics and study’s are correct but I just believe that everyone’s body is different as is their thinking and their minds. I believe a lot of this weight loss battle is with ourselves and the learned and practiced Behaviors.
I believe that I can change because I am changing my behaviors and the relationship that I have with food.
.I used to Live To Eat.
Now I’ve began to Eat To Live.

Is Ryvita OK?

My husband bought some thinking it would be OK, carbs seem high.

Ingredients say (mainly) wholegrain rye, 10% pumpkin seeds and 10 % wholegrain oats, which doesn’t sound too bad.

Hi, I too had a terrible few days, no idea why but the wheel definitely fell off. I have felt such a failure that today is the first time I felt able to look at the forums again, was really feeling such a failure that I had no right to be part of the BSD community. Having seen how honest people have been I thought I should get a grip and have another go. Thank you to everyone for being so honest.

Love reading all these NSV, they make the change in lifestyle much more real and personal. For me the biggest change is in the amount of money I spend on food. I only buy what I need, mostly fresh produce and not expensive package stuff and ready meals and pizza, no more adding multi pack buys of biscuits, chocolate, sweets, snacks and cakes. I think I have reduced my food bill by at least 50%. Oh and I can bend down and get out of my chair without the accompanying moans and groans and oohs and aahs. Fab

I wanted to jump in somewhere. I’ve been lurking on the forums and so impressed with the advice, support and warmth of everyone.

I’m a Tofi and have been unable to lose weight and the fat around my middle despite eating processed free. I’ve been following this plan for a week and a half and have lost 6 pounds so far. Yeah!! My mother was a type 2 diabetic and I’ve always been deathly afraid of ending up the same. My sugar last tested was borderline high.

My goal .. is to become acquainted with my hip bones again… Lol… Is that bad? 😄

I’ll keep lurking and feeling encouraged.

Went for the results of latest HbA1c today. When I walked in the nurse was more interested in telling me about her holiday, how bad she felt and the problems with her car. Then she asked why I was there! When she looked on the screen she couldn’t find the figures for the result. But she did find a note from the doctor saying I was being overtreated! I’ve never had diabetes meds. That did it! I could feel the blood pressure going up!!!

Someone came to sort out the system and she found the results

July 2015 – 8.7
December 2015 (just before I started the BSD – 9.6
January 2016 – 8.7 (one month in, don’t ask – it was a sneaky test, they got confused!)
April 2016 *drum roll* – 5.5

She told me in the new measurements and had to find the conversion chart, saying she’d never seen one that low in this practice and that it was a good result.

She didn’t need the conversion chart for the older results. She *knows the high ones by heart*.

I’m not seeing her again until July for annual diabetes review, including another HbA1c.

She mentioned a diabetic male patient who paid to see a nutritionist privately and was told to eat lots of carbs 😱 My response was I’d teach a session!

No mention of revising diagnosis. Nothing positive.

Got the feeling that she was nice and encouraging in the beginning because she thought it wouldn’t last. Now she can see the results (weight loss and test results) she’s not happy.

Blood pressure up slightly (told her I wasn’t surprised and she should have checked it first thing) but in normal limits.

Ho hum. I should have gone to the Church coffee morning after the appointment but decided against it – just wanted to run away and lick my wounds! So went food shopping😃

Thanks Jackie and thanks also for the carb flu info. The link is indeed broken, however, I googled it and got some good info. As you and Bill advised, much more fat!! They even recommended chicken with skin! mmmm not sure how that will fit into 800 cals though……

Rachel

Hi Christine and thank you for your post. I find it really encouraging to know that you have also struggled with this, but have managed to keep going and succeed.
I have taken on board the fat issue and had some very buttery scrambled eggs for lunch together with my 50g of smoked salmon, plus halfway through my second large glass of water. I guess you just have to keep going……..
Thanks for yoghurt tip, Im using yeo valley at present, not sure how that compares carb wise but its the nicest ive found taste wise.

Keep posting your journey!!

Rachel

That yoghurt is by TOTAL who also make the 0% = don’t get that one! Container as Christine says is a large round one not the tall skinny one. Red white and pale blue. J

Hope it’s going well for you Lisas nanny – I’m right behind you , started on Tuesday.

I haven’t managed 10,000 steps yet – more like between 4000 – 5000 but they’re increasing bit by bit . I’m obsessed with looking at my FitBit readouts – it’s getting beyond a joke … as if by looking at it my steps will magically increase ! And the sleep patterns are fascinating too – I had to laugh this morning when my FitBit told me that I’d walked 0.04 miles since midnight! That’s me going to the loo at least twice a night – it must be all that water , so every cloud has a silver lining.

God Luck.

Yes I suppose we just need to keep soldiering on. Yesterday we had breakfast 50g full fat Greek yogurt with one weetabix crumbled over (119 cal) Lunch: 2 cherry tomatoes, 1/4 a cucumber, 12g spinach leaves, 50g red pepper, 50g iceberg lettuce, 50g raw red cabbage, 125g seafood sticks and 17g hot Mayo dip (243 cals) then tea I marinated 200g chicken breast in 50g Greek yogurt and tandoori spices, baked in foil with lemon juice served with roasted veg (no oil) 2 cherry tomatoes, 150g courgette, 100g mushroom and 100g of the Holland and Barrett low cal rice (409 cal) I was so starving by bedtime I had a slice of watermelon and some grilled chicken slices. The day before we had similar breakfast of Greek yog, Oaty flakes and half a grapefruit, lunch lentil and spice soup and one slice toast and tea baked fish with salt pepper and lime, small amount mustard mash and red cabbage, green beans and broccoli. Does this sound about right? I’ve just adapted what we and the children usually eat and had much smaller portions

Hi neohdiver
Just to let you know you are being thought about & wished all that is best, not just when you post
Eureka 🙏🏻 💐

Great job Bongo!

I’ve just started day 4 and I’m down 3.1 lbs. so far and I’ve been feeling great. I have about 40 lbs. to loose total, but I’m trying not to let that discourage me. I’ve been following recipes from the book and they have been really good. I made the steak last night with mixed greens, and it was delicious!

I have a party to attend tomorrow night with lots of food and drinks that will be surrounding me. It makes me nervous but I will just have to be mindful what I eat and drink. I haven’t wanted sugar or carbs as much as I thought I would crave them.

So far we are doing good and the key is to stick to this, its working great so far!!

Hi rachel62,
Forgot to say, I was recommended on here to get fage full fat Greek yogurt, it’s got less carbs in and is better on this diet, it’s in a big round tub with the other yogurts, but not a tall tub,it’s more squat! If that makes sense?
Hope that helps,
Christine

Hi keepsmiling
If this weather keeps up I’ll be bbq at the weekend – minus the gin! Boo hoo! 😉 Low carbing all the way. 🍗 🍤 🌽 🍆 🍓
Turkish toes in sandals just about cope with, but boots is another matter? No cramps so far. You drink lots. I get lost in the garden too. One of my Ceanothus is about to burst in blue delight! The other usually June but looks earlier this year. 🎼 Here comes the Sun ☀️

Hi rachel62,
I’ve been busy recently so have only been dipping in when I can, just read your thread, like bill and Jackie said you have to pat yourself on the back for sticking with while feeling hungry and struggling, while still losing weight! It took me ages and I only got to where I am with the help of these brilliant folk on this forum, it’s important that you have enough fat! A concept that floored me at first, I could not get my head round it, once I had, the plateau I was on disappeared and the weight started coming off, it comes off eventually sometimes in fits and starts, then you have to look at the foods you are consuming how many carbs are in them, I loved the cottage cheese walnut and pear, however I found out that the pear had loads of carbs in! so I only have that occasionally, try and keep your carbs at about 50g/2oz, up your fat and try and keep to 800g. And most important keep posting, it helps especially when there’s a problem, you always get someone posting a helpful reply. Onwards and downwards, don’t loose heart.
Christine

Hi gang

So my blood tests showed no change in my thyroid reading but it did show that my cholesterol had gone up to 5.2. it was in high 4s before when I only used to eat low fat everything and no meat. Now I eat butter and ff yoghurt but not every day. I don’t eat any red meat and I don’t like chicken skin. So any ideas why it has gone up? I thought it wasn’t supposed to happen?

Great loss – well done!! I’m on day 5 so just a little ahead of you. All the best!

Hmm
can you post a couple of typical days meals?
You shouldn’t really struggle on 800 cals as long as you are eating enough fats and drinking enough water.
Week 1 can be difficuilt as your body gets used to the new fuel, you will be feeling much better by this time next week

Cat duly patted! Thanks for the book recommendation. I’m looking for my next Audible book – 2 hours spent commuting each day – so I’ll definitely see whether David Michie is one of the available authors on the site.

Thankyou 🙂

I posted the scotch egg recipe on the recipe board, but I used pork loin steaks which I put in the blender with bacon and seasoning. So it kind of is sausage meat but without all the crap they add to sausages!

Good luck with your journey 😊

Hi weescotty
It’s important to research & aquire knowledge if you are a diabetic. Knowledge is power! Armed with that you can make informed decisions about your course of treatment, & not just rely on your GP’s opinion ( or lack of it)
On diagnosis, 3 years ago, I was told to “eat potatoes, & DON’T test your blood sugar”???
I found the Juggle course ( 4 days over 4 weeks nutritional advice etc, myself).
I did not agree with the amount of carbs , Re: Eatwell Plate that I was informed was crucial to my diabetic health! I also had to chase up an appointment for my diabetic eye test, despite informing my then GP of problems with my vision! That took 4 months!?
It’s been necessary for me to find out information & then act on it ( or try to) to help myself as a Type 2 Diabetic. My original GP refused to monitor me even if I contacted prof Taylor to start his diet! ( That was prior to this BSD book being published. A life saver it is turning out to be for so many 😀 ) Hence my plea to look at the info, check it out & then make suitable decisions for yourself. We have to take responsibility for ourselves too.

Take ‘official diabetic information’ with a salt pan until YOU have checked it out & are satisfied.

Change is afoot & we will make that happen for Type 2 Diabetics. Decision makers have long known the truth about low carb diets & the damage caused by sugar & simple carbs. Big Bucks talk longest & loudest!! ??

Many informed dr’s, nutritionist & scientist have had their reports ridiculed & careers quashed for Nay Saying the published professed TRUTH fed to us as Diabetics & quite literally KILLING US. Both my parents were Type 2 Diabetics & died as a consequence. I’m riding this horse to the end for them. No one is getting in my way. I’ll tell you when I’m crossing the finish line with all my guns blazing

Neohdiver, you continue to impress me!! I don’t know how you are finding the energy to measure and record with everything else that’s going on.

Your colleagues will wish to do all they can to support you through this ordeal and hopefully manage your work load efficiently.

So sorry you are continuing to have a nightmare with regards to the admin grrrr it makes me want to come over and shake them.

My thoughts and prayers are with you x

Chrisnor – it is like janet says – your body is having to cope with enormous changes, but when the tiredness goes you will be buzzing with energy! 🙂

A tad slow posting Week 5’s data. Not that I’ve been busy, or anything.

The diet itself itself continues to be a non-event. My BG continues to be lower – although higher on days when I am infuriated by the incompetence of the administration associated with the doctor treating me. This week’s surprise spike event was being told when I walked into an appointment, that it took moving mountains to set up, that there would be an additional (potentially entirely out of pocket) charge of $95 to $200 that no one warned me about – each and every time I visited this particular doctor. Had I been forewarned, I would have chosen another doctor – or at least checked insurance to make sure I knew what a financial hit I was being set up for. The single spike from that (on Monday) has not yet worked itself out of my weekly average – which is still (4 days later) running .17 higher than the highest 7-day average from the 5 previous weeks.

I’m afraid that what that (the spike) tells me is that I am not yet in remission – which is unfortunate, because I’ve also been told I need to stop eating at a calorie deficit to prepare for surgery. So this week will be my last – at least for now. I have an A1C drawn on Tuesday morning, so that makes a logical stopping point. I’ll gradually increase my calories & briefly, rather dramatically, increase my carbs (to 100-150/day) so that I can do a relatively accurate DIY home OGTT later in the week to see if I’ve altered my glucose metabolism at all.

Today my coworkers learn I have cancer – and will be recruited to help fill any gaps my absence will create, I interview 3 candidates for my permanent assistant, conduct exit interviews with 4 students, and continue to move my office out of the way of the construction crane and, with luck, make a dent in the pile of papers I have to grade. Nope. Nothing to do today.

Here’s the complete data set for the next to last week on this diet. For now.

Week 1 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 5.05 mmol/l, T: 5.28 mmol/l W: 5.06 Th: 5.39 (highest in months) F: 4.44 S: 4.39 Sun: 4.44
Week 1 – Starting weight: 150.2 lbs – Ending weight: 147 lbs
Week 1 – High for the week: 7.72, Low for the Week: 4.06, Average for the week: 5.5

Week 2 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 4.83 mmol/l, T: 4.72 mmol/l W: 5.11 mmol/l Th: 4.79 mmol/l F: 4.83 mmol/l S: 4.33 mmol/l Sun: 4.6 mmol/l
Week 2 – Starting weight: 147 lbs – Ending weight: 144.8 lbs
Week 2 – High for the week: 6.83 mmol/l Low for the Week: 3.5 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.27 mmol/l.

Week 3 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 4.61 mmol/l, T: 4.72 mmol/l W: 4.67 mmol/l Th: 4.9 mmol/l F: 4.5 mmol/l S: 4.33 mmol/l Sun: 4.66 mmol/l
Week 3 – Starting weight: 144.8 lbs – Ending weight: 142
Week 3 – High for the week: 7.22 mmol/l Low for the Week: 3.9 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.5 mmol/l.
Note: High stress precipitated by early stages of cancer diagnosis.

Week 4 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 5.05 mmol/l, T: 4.83 mmol/l W: 4.61 mmol/l Th: 4.67 mmol/l F: 4.67 mmol/l S: 4.67 mmol/l Sun: 4.33 mmol/l
Week 4 – Starting weight: 142 lbs – Ending weight: 140.8 (2 lbs from a normal BMI!!!)
Week 4 – High for the week: 8.39 mmol/l (in the wake of incompetent administrative stress) Low for the Week: 4.33 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.27 mmol/l.

Note: Formal breast cancer diagnosis came on Monday, before my fasting BG reading. Might be why it was a bit higher!

Week 5 – Fasting blood glucose: M: 4.89 mmol/l, T: 5.06 mmol/l W: 4.83 mmol/l Th: 3.83 mmol/l F: 4.83 mmol/l S: 5.39 mmol/l Sun: 4.61 mmol/l
Week 5 – Starting weight: 140.8 lbs – Ending weight:140.0
Week 5 – High for the week: 7.05 mmol/l (High stress day) Low for the Week: 3.83 mmol/l, Average for the week: 5.44 mmol/l.

Weight loss on Low Carb/Moderate Protein (179 days): 47.1 lbs Average BG 6.0

Weight loss on 800 Calorie Mediterranean Style food with 16:8 intermittent fasting (35 days): 10.2 lbs Average BG 5.39 mmol/l (lower, even after the breast cancer diagnosis – which came in bits and pieces starting the middle of week 3, to the first day of week 4, with added stress associated with too little time to wrap up affairs before surgery mid to late May)

Hi Lisa’s nanny!! welcome to the forums! It does get easier as time goes by. Michael Mosley says the first two weeks are the hardest so you will have lots of energy soon.

Don’t worry too much about steps, Dr Mosley says build them up over the days and weeks. Some days I mange 16000 steps (round town) sometimes just 3000. It all evens out in the end! But quite often the lower steps days are more physical – like Bill building garden structures, painting fences etc Me digging over the veg patches and weeding. Or standing all day cooking!!

Some people are losing a lot of weight without really doing any form of exercise!!

When your ‘fat’ clothes start dropping off you (oh yes!!!) you will really enjoy getting new clothes which fit more snugly and show off your new figure!!

So good luck and build those steps a step at a time – pun intended!!

BTW I love Holland! Lovely country and lovely people 🙂

Your tiredness will be linked to the very restricted calories and also the change from burning carbs to burning fat. Keep drinking plenty of water, you may also find taking some extra salt helps, get plenty of fat into your diet. Your body has a lot to deal with in the early stages but it will adjust and you should start to feel better.

Hi Bill, thanks for replying. I had an HbA1c taken last week, I’m waiting for the results of that. They tend to be OK, it’s the GTT that I have trouble with. My sugars swing high and low a lot. I have been under consultant care and they have run every test there is. He says I am prediabetic. Hence why I thought this approach might help me to sort my insulin response out. I have to admit though I’m struggling with so few calories a day

I’m a big fan of the website myself and have been watching Jason Fung’s videos about fasting. I fast for 16 hours a day and find it very easy to do. I think we are living in interesting times as far as weight loss goes. The old beliefs are being overthrown at an alarming rate. The old adages eat less, move more and calories in, calories out just don’t stack up and most of us here are probably proof of that. Interestingly, what Jason said even challenges the theory behind our own bsd diet so I am still a little confused. But I’m personally happy to accept that my fasting has played a large role in my weight loss of 20 pounds since February and as long as I know I m burning fat with my trusty keystix, I’ll keep going. Best wishes to you happy life.

Hi Tulip
have you had a HbA1c test?
If not I would make an appointment withthe GP and get one done.
Those are very low readings and you need to find out what’s going on.

Hi Eureka,

Thank you for your post and your support. I am going to keep going and not give up! I hope that I will also feel good soon. I have been putting rubbish in my body for years so I should not be surprised it is taking time for my body to de-tox itself.

Hi, I’m new to this site and wondered if anyone can help me. My husband and I started the 800 cals fast on Monday, so we are on day four. We’ve stuck to it and been exercising too. The trouble I am having is hypos. I felt my sugars dropping fast yesterday mid morning, then today I woke up shaky with low reading (3.9) had breakfast, but by 11am I was shaky again and down to 3.4. I have a monitor because I get gestational diabetes in pregnancy and use insulin then, and my levels didn’t return to normal after my last pregnancy. I’m hoping that this blood sugar diet might kick start things back in the right direction! I couldn’t find anything about hypos in the book. Is anyone else having them?

Hi Everyone

Wasn’t sure where to start so posted on the SBSD forum on Tuesday.

Little bit of background info. Middle aged couple, living in Holland and following BSD since Sunday; amazing hubby who’s diabetic – on diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, 15 kilos overweight, picky, and struggling a little without his morning and afternoon snacks while at work – up at 4.30am home at 7pm.

Me – 25 kilos overweight, not diabetic or on meds but according to tests will be if I carry on with current unhealthy way of eating; not so picky but unemployed and at home all day, lazy person (only exercise wise lol) with no small kids to run round after. Awaiting Fitbit arriving Saturday. Lord knows how I’m gonna manage 5,000 steps never mind 10,000.

Goal: get fit and healthy, and would love to surprise our daughter with decent weight loss and looking good when visiting in August – not to mention fitting in some decent gear for a change instead of wearing a huge coat in summer lol.

That about sums it up. Oh, so far I’m down 5lbs and hubby 3lbs.

Would like to say big thanks for all the advice given so far, massive congrats to everyone who has lost weight and good luck to all who like us, are just starting out.

Thank you Jackie, will do.

Rachel

Rachel, try not to let it get you down – you have lost half a stone in 2 weeks – that’s great in anyone’s book! More than happy to help. Check out that website for tips.

Jackie

Hi JackieMac

No no, in UK, but of an age where we were taught lbs and ounces and Ive never converted!

We moved to our current location last year but due to a mental health issue I dont really go out at the moment on my own and dont know many people. I do have a pedometer though and count my steps daily.

Thank you too for your advice and support, its much appreciated

Rachel62

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