hi Lynne – hope that you’re having a great holiday, from your other posts it sounds as if you’re doing brilliantly with sticking to BSD

M – congratulations, 3 stone is an amazing achievement.
As to the best post target options – you”ll only find out when you get there!
If you do start gaining weight again on 1200 calories, maybe try 5:2, or a variant of that – you don’t have to put back on all of the weight you’ve lost on BSD before you do something about it. Big thing for now is to get to whatever target you’ve set yourself.
If you’re finding 800 easy, I’d say stick with it, as Lynne has – if you find it a real struggle, experiment with 5:2 and see how that works for you.

I read somewhere around the time I started BSD something along the lines of “weigh yourself regularly, and if your weight is up by more than a kilo, have a say or two of eating less to bring it back in check” – I know that may sound perfectly obvious to some people, but it was a real ‘light bulb’ moment for me.
I’m really trying to see this not as a diet, but the new normal in terms of eating and living more healthily. I’ve always been overweight, even as a child, and have lost count of the diets where I’ve lost some weight only to pile it back on again; as I’m getting older, I am finding it harder to lose weight, and am becoming more aware of the impact on my health, so need to avoid yo-yo dieting of the past. And with Yo-Yos, they always end up at the bottom, with the string fully extended – until you make the effort to wind it up again,

You could save some calories for a milky drink at bedtime, or have your last meal a bit later.

But Igora is right we need the fat 🙂

The thing that satisfies and fills you up is full fat foods.

Have you reviewed the breakdown of carbs, fat and protein on an app such as MyFitnessPal?

If you have your evening meal with plenty of fat in it – add some full fat yoghurt, or cheese, or avocado, just as suggestions – you should find that this fills you up.

If you are still feeling hungry – and this does lessen as you go on – focus on making sure a good amount of your 800 calories is fat. Honestly, does work!

Good luck!

My thoughts are that when I get to my target I think less about calories, focussing just on carbs. Like I’m doing now on holiday. And being careful with portion sizes. Hashimoto has done that already. Others, including Bill, have focused on carbs rather than calories with great success.

Thanks Igorasusual 🙂

I aim to please! (and help if I can)

I’ve become quite passionate about the BSD lol

You know one of the things I love about BSD and Michael Mosely? I was thinking about it the other day. It isn’t about the money.

Obviously he will have earned cash from book sales but he hasn’t exploited his ideas for richness.

You go to weight watchers or slimming world or any of those and it’s £5/ week for the support of a person to weigh you and give you the advice that we get from the book (which is a one off purchase) then the website and the group support is all free.

Ah you’re welcome science monkey and well done to you and your partner! another scottish person I’m guessing from the ‘wean’? lol

BSD is great 🙂 I’m sure you will both reach your targets!

Hi all!

Just finished week 1. Still struggling with hunger but during the day I can keep busy and distract myself. At night is a different story.

I’m using recipes from the book for all my meals, drinking herbal tea in the evening and a big glass of water before bed … But so hungry while trying to fall asleep. Not coping!

Any suggestions?

Hi Izzy,

I read the BSD book and took some inspiration from your recipes and diary and decided that the BSD was for me and convinced my fiancée that the BSD was the way forward for both of us.

I had put on about 6kg (a stone in old money) since quitting one job and hunting for a new one and the other half had never managed to shed the weight after she had our daughter in September 2014. Neither of us is diabetic, but we both knew we had to lose some weight and now was the time to be doing it. This was just over 4 weeks ago……

In that time I’ve managed to drop from 109.6kg to 98.9kg this morning and my fiancée has dropped 5.5kg in the same time. This is while wrangling the wean (toddler) to and from crèche, starting a new job and buying a house. Neither of us has felt hungry, tired or lethargic whilst on the BSD; although we have both had days when we went OTT and had a snack we shouldn’t have. The only downside has been getting rid of baggy clothes that don’t really fit any more, but the upside is the wardrobe of too-small clothes now fits 🙂

So we have the second half of the reduction phase to come and we both have a bit more weight to lose (me; 6kg and the other half wants another 3kg to disappear). I’ll post again so anyone that wants to hear the end of the story can (maybe my post should have started with “Once upon a time….”.

Thanks for the inspiring recipes and for sharing your experience which helped give me the push.

Thank you – that is good to know. My concern is what it does long term to the metabolism., to be on such a low calorie intake. After reaching my goal, if I increase the calories to a modest 1200 I fear my body will have adjusted to 800 and I am going to end up piling weight back on? (Not what any of us want!)

Just want to congratulate Izzy on a brilliant post. Says it all for me.

Onwards and upwards, folks. Good luck to all.

Morning my lovelies 🙂

well according to my scales this morning I’ve gained 1lb 🙁

However I could be pre-menstrual so that could be the cause. I can’t remember when my last one was and I’m too lazy to read back lol. I was hoping to lose 2 to get to my 10% this week but I doubt it now. I still have 48 hours and I fully expect the shown gain to disappear but I doubt I’ll lose much, but there is always next week 🙂 I refuse to be low about it. I have other stuff to worry about. Which reminds me that stress releases cortisol which can be damaging to those of us trying to lose weight. It will level and settle.

Last night I had a revisit from my anxiety. Worrying again about things that happened 18 months ago when my husband was ill with severe depression, suddenly feeling fearful and insecure and generally anxious. Feeling like nothing is fair (but hey nothing is really, in life fairness isn’t really a *thing*) My husband comforted me as best he could but when I feel like that nothing really works. I’m still taking my medication and trying my best to look after myself and regain my health but it still jumps up and bites me in the ass.

I still feel a bit low this morning and had a relapse of tiredness. My husband woke me getting up this morning at 0845 (not deliberately) when I looked up he said our son was up and told me the time. I asked him if he minded if I slept on and he said no and hugged me. I went back to sleep having strange dreams and woke up at 11. This is how I was at the beginning of the year, I’m not quite as low or tired as I was then but I hope it is temporary. I thought I was recovering well from my own depression but I guess I’m not quite there.

Some may think I am too open about that side of me but I think we need to talk more about these things in order to reduce the stigma that sufferers feel. I want my children to grow up knowing that depression is not weakness or failure but an illness. It can be treated and a person can recover. There needs be no fear in admitting we have it.

So back to the food and stuff. Yesterday I had two baking experiments… I made these…
https://elanaspantry.com/carrot-muffins/

I didn’t like them they were very eggy. Maybe the yacon would have helped them I don’t know I substitute some sweetner.

So, obsessed with a desire for carrot cake I then made this…
https://elanaspantry.com/carrot-cake/

It turned out great but I don’t think the rest of the family will eat any so if I try it again I will reduce it in size as unfortunately due to calorie counting much of this will end up in the bin which is a real shame 🙁 I will see how well it lasts. I may try making small individual ones. or see if it freezes…Yes I think I will slice some into calorie counted portions and freeze. I do like my little experiments!

I also used this to coat our chicken for dinner.
http://lowcarbyum.com/gluten-free-coconut-flour-chicken-tenders-baked-paleo-recipe/

I made it basic without all the optional ingredients and it was nice definitely something to use again.

Thinking ahead I have only 9 days left of my 8 weeks. It sounded like a long time at the beginning but as soon as I started I could see it was going to pass quickly and it has. I was thinking of my future options. Do I want to stay on 800? in some ways yes. I know it is the fastest way to achieve. However do I want the freedom to eat a little more… yes I do. Do I want to slow my already slowish weight loss? no! I’ve loosely settled on a kind of compromise plan. I think if I can stick to 800 5 days, and allow myself 2 (or even 1) day per week when I can eat more but still staying low carb I think that could feel good to me. I may play around with it in week 9 and just see. I think even just one day per week would actually be enough. hmmm.

Hi M

I’ve just kept on going on the 800, low carb and will stick with that until I get to goal (another 28 pounds approx). That’s what suits me😃

But others may give different advice.

Do you have any reason to stop the 800?

I’m just over the two week mark and my advice would also be weigh and log your food (I also use Myfitnesspal), don’t guesstimate as you’re always wrong! I’d also say plan your meals ahead so there’s no excuses to eat rubbish. My final piece of advice is drink plenty of water it really does help!

Good luck!

Something that’s worked for me on a past weight loss attempt was having a higher calorie day when I was plateauing, like you I’d been sticking to it come hell or high water but not losing, I went out to dinner and although was still sensible I ate over my calories and the next day I’d lost again. It must give your metabolism a bit of a shake up.

I think it’s worth looking at the other options.

option 1. Do nothing. This will at BEST keep you at your current weight but lets be realistic… You are likely to regain, and if you throw out all you have learned and go back to your previous habits the regain will be FAST.

option 2. Switch to another diet that is less restrictive… but I will make a bet… I bet 95% of us have already been there and done that without success, it’s why we are here. If you lose slowly on BSD it’s pretty much conclusive to be slower still on anything else and the fact remains if you don’t learn to change your habits it will go back on again. How many times have I done that? I’ve lost count.

option 3. recommit mentally to the BSD800, allowing yourself to maximise your weightloss over time, relearning good habits and alternatives to your favourites along the way. This will give you the best chance at inching to your chosen goal. You may not get there as quickly as you hoped, but you will have achieved the best POSSIBLE outcome for your own body in that time and that is an achievement to be celebrated and proud of.

option 4. Switch to BSD 5:2, take the pressure off yourself to lose quickly and accept it will be a slow road.

option 5. switch to BSD, taking the pressure off completely but still relearning and ditching bad habits. A longer road again but a healthful one nonetheless.

The only way to change your life is to go ahead and …change your life. It doesn’t just happen by itself. BSD works. Our bodies are all different and the losses will change from person to person, and individually will change from week to week. We need to accept this and embrace the fact that if we stick to the plan that in any given week we have lost the maximum possible for our own body. Every day is a step forwards in health and learning even if the scales don’t show it.

I’m on week 7 and I’ve lost 16lb’s. it’s looking like I won’t lose this week but I no longer care. This is a new way of life for me. I still have almost 3 stone to lose so my journey won’t end at 8 weeks either. I still need to lose 2 lb’s to hit 10% lost so it’s hit or miss at the moment if I will make that by 8 weeks!

I’d say be kind to yourself, accept that we all have slips. The secret is not to have no slips but to jump back on the wagon straight away and move forwards. Consider your options and make your plan.

After week 8 I’m considering a kind of backwards 5:2 plan where I follow 800 for 5 days and eat more for 2 days. I’ve not made a final decision yet but we will see.

Best wishes to you (and the others struggling) good luck with today, tomorrow and the coming weeks.

Oh Thank you very much I really feel very optemistic and I know that this will help me solve my weight issue I think the less hours to eat will make it easier to follow espically that I am planning to cook the food before which will help me not to give to graving I will keep posting and let you all know how it goes. Thank you very much for the support. 🙂

Hi Indi,

I stick to the low carb veg and ate 5 serves/day while on BSD800 and continue to do so on BSD5:2.
I think it’s an individual thing as others have posted that they consume less.
Try the amount of low carb veggies you want while staying within 800 cals and monitor how you go.

Hi Slimmingmayya,

Welcome to the forums. There are many people who have started their BSD journey feeling like pioneers (read Bill1954, Captainlynne,Hashimoto, Cherrianne) to name a few. You are a pioneer for doing the BSD while fasting for your religion.
I have no experience of this. If you are simply ‘flipping’ the hours that you eat it makes sense that it would work.
Jason Fung in his book ‘The Obesity Code’ makes reference to religious fasting – but mainly to point out that usually few less calories are consumed overall.
I feel like I haven’t really answered your question. There will be other BSDers reading this that may have more definitive answers.
Keep posting so we all can read how you’re progressing.
Best wishes.

Some advice please.
I am at week 15 (after my first 8 weeks I decided to continue for another 8 weeks.) I have lost 28lbs (plus another 14 that I had already lost beforehand.)
I want to lose another 42lbs (so half way there!) what do you think would be better to keep going for another 8 weeks on the 800 or take a break for a while (how long?) and go on to the 5:2 but low carb or……………..?
All thoughts gratefully received.

hi everyone and it is so encouraging to read everyone’s stories.
Some advice please catainlynne & anyone else who has been doing the 800 for a while.
I am at week 15 (after my first 8 weeks I decided to continue for another 8 weeks.) I have lost 28lbs (plus another 14 that I had already lost beforehand.) I want to lose another 42lbs (so half way there!) what do you think would be better to keep going for another 8 weeks on the 800 or take a break for a while (how long?) and go on to the 5:2 but low carb? All thoughts gratefully received.
(please note I have also posted this in a separate topic so I will hopefully get replies from people not reading this thread.)

Hi all
I’m just 2 days into the fast 800, and I notice that the recipes in the book don’t include much veg. Is it ok to eat more low carb veg so long as I stay within the 800 cals?
(I’m surprised how Un hungry I am!)
Indi

the positive is that you have lost a stone is six week, MrsG, so that’s half of what you wanted to loose before your holiday – and if that’s five weeks away, you could be well on the way to the second stone.
For me, it isn’t just about the weight, I want to feel better too – I haven’t lost as much as you yet, but I am starting to notice that I can walk at a fast pace for longer without getting tired and slowing to a creeping pace, and climb stairs and escalators more easily.

Cost aside, I’ve always thought it best to follow diets with ‘normal’ food – hence I’ve never done the Cambridge Diet, but it seems to be based on packaged food and supplements.
As a long term solution, BSD may get you to your target weight a bit more slowly, but it’s also building the foundations of a more healthy relationship with food when you attain your target – and stay there long term.

Good luck

Hi,

I am so excited to start, I have a question though I will start fasting for my religion from tomorrow or Tuesday and I wondered if it would still work if I done the plan at the time I break the fast which will be between 9.40pm to 2.40am I am planning to eat lunch and brunch at Sohor which will be by 2.20am and lunch at 9.40pm, I am not diabetic but I have lots of weight around the belly and it is really tiring me out, another thing I know that date is not really good to have in this diet but would be ok If I have one with the brunch as it makes me feels less hungry after a full day of fasting. Thank you very much .

I am going on holiday in 6 weeks time and was hoping to have lost a total of 2 stone or more in that time. I will have been doing the BSD800 for 11-12 weeks by then. I am disappointed to realise that I am unlikely to have lost that much weight by then, going by the last 2-3 weeks. I think I had gotten my hopes up too high from reading how much weight others had lost on here in such a short time.

If I don’t continue with this diet I have no idea of what I will do to lose weight. This has been one of the very few diets I have managed to stick to (up until last night!), and have not felt hungry. The only thing that has worked for me in the past was the Cambridge Diet some 5 years ago. Unfortunately I am not in the same financial position I was in then, and so am not able to afford it now.

Okay 4stonetolose, I agree to give it a bit longer too 😊👍

Welcome! Lots of success here and also good advice and support.

For me I would say it is a great idea to use an app such as MyFitnessPal to check your calories and the breakdown of them into (good) carbs, fat and protein, because the values can be really surprising. For example I gave up sugar in my coffee after noticing I could have a fillet of salmon at dinner time for the same calories and how much better was that for me.

If you can keep your carbs below 50g per day, then the BSD will be even more effective.

Hope that helps.

(Ps I am 4 weeks in and 12lbs down of my target 22 and did not have too much to lose. Have really enjoyed it. My breakfast this morning was delicious – raw baby spinach, baby plum tomatoes, whole avocado and scrambled eggs. Mmmmm)

If its the slim rice made form Konjack – there’s quite a lot on the web about side effects, some good, others not.
One I saw just now included “slowing the digestive processes’ – I also read that it can also absorb a lot of water, so maybe you need to increase your water intake when you have it. But absorbing the water and slowing the digestive system combined could explain the weight increase.
I have several packs in the cupboard, but haven’t used it yet.

It must be incredibly frustrating, but hopefully only a temporary blip.

I seemed to be on a plateau in weight terms for ages though I could see and feel that I was thinner via my clothes.

I also use Ketostix which test if I am burning fat, so knew it was going from somewhere – likely from round my organs which after all is what we’re aiming for.

I was told fat goes from the visceral areas first (probably explains why waist measurement can go down fairly quickly – going from inside) and only then from subcutaneous fat (the bit you can see).

And the last bit of subcutaneous fat to go is the bit under the navel (the belly wodge). It would be!!

So don’t despair, don’t give up hope. It does work and will.

Good luck

And please DONT PANIC it may not be as bad as you think.

Weight varies so much – oh was 2lbs up first thing in the morning and then after his coffee and a shower was 3lbs down again (so net 1lb loss).

How are your measurements doing? Focus on that and don’t stress (appreciate that’s hard)

Good luck!

If you are indeed badly affected by dairy, you could still do the BSD.

I think the biggest miss you would find is cheese, which is high in fat and protein but low in carbs, which is where we are aiming. Milk (in coffee and tea) and yoghurt are optional of course.

If you get an app such as MyFitnessPal you could check your 800 calories with the food you like to eat.

Keep carbs to 30-50g, if you can, and then protein and fat need to be added within your calories to get to the 800 target.

Hope that helps

Switzerland, thank you for your good advice. You are absolutely right, I do need to exercise more. I started off really well, but have got a bit idle recently. I am recharging my Fitbit as I type. I haven’t tried the mindfulness side of things. I didn’t think I needed it, but as I’m struggling, I will definitely give it a go.

Mrs G, I’m really sorry that you’re struggling too. I do think your loss has been pretty impressive though. 17lbs in only 6 weeks! How about we both give it another couple of weeks? 😀

My weight is falling slower than I’d hoped too – 4kg in two and a half weeks, and lots of hovvering up and down
It’s frustrating, but I just keep reminding myself that it’s been there an awfully long time!

The days when I’ve put weight back on, or not lost anything, do appear to be days when I’ve made less effort to drink lots (water, not red wine) and been more sedentary.

If weighing daily is frustrating, have you thought about weighing yourself less frequently – maybe weekly?

I’ve also found a more healthy snack than chocolate for those late night ‘frustration binges’ – tiny oat and seed cakes with a teaspoon of cottage cheese. Occasionally takes me over the 800, but I figure it’s better than diving into chocolate or sweet biscuits – and I am making sure that it’s an occasional treat, rather than routine.

On the positive side 4stone, at least you felt unwell after the biscuits – incentive not to do it again! I know the biscuits you mean, and pre BSD I could easily wolf down an entire packet (and they were so often on BOGOF deals!). If you haven’t already, maybe don’t weigh yourself today, it won’t change what’s already been done.

Good luck with it MrsG & 4Stone

So I bought the 8 Week Blood Sugar Book just after OH was diagnosed as Type 2 but actually want to do the diet for myself more than he wants to. I’m a 45 year old hefty Yorkshire lass (20 stone) and although my blood sugars are well within the normal range, I know I’m heading for trouble if I don’t act now. I’ve tried WW and SW without any real success but reading this book it seems to make sense to me, plus it’s all food I love (hubby much fussier with food so might have a battle on my hands).

I’ve just taken delivery of 4 various Fast Diet cookbooks and am eager to get started, so what’s the best advice for me as a new starter to this diet?

You might have the will power to do so but why would you unless you are lactose intolerant for real. I reckon that you would have to consume more of olive oil and other fat to keep the fats and oils intake at high enough levels.

With a normal BMI which diet plan are you following, Fast800, 8WBSD 5:2 or are you just changing your style to being more Mediterranean I wonder. Shift work can play havoc with lifestyle and I did it for many years. Good luck anyway..

Salt helps retain water, water is heavy, soup is mainly water, weigh again when you think you have “used” your day’s liquids. Did you also drink tea, coffee, juices etc they can really add up and give you a shock – it has happened to me. Can rice be slim absorbing as much water as it does will add weight?

I can sympathise completely 4stonetolose.

I am just starting my 6th week. I weighed myself last Thursday and to my delight I had lost another 3lb this week – making a total of 17lbs. I then weighed Saturday and the 3lb was back on!? So disappointing. I am keeping track of everything I eat; rigidly sticking to 800 cals, and 25-30g carbs/day. I don’t understand how it works so well for some, but not so well for others.

Yesterday I was seriously considering giving up. The weight just isn’t coming off quickly enough to motivate me. I was so fed up that last night, I ended up drinking a bottle of red wine, eating some bread and biscuits! I suppose I do feel a little guilty this morning, and have no intention of stepping on the scales!

If I don’t sort myself out and get back into this diet, I fear I will completely undo all the hard work I’ve already done, and quickly regain the stone I’ve lost. But my head does not feel in the right place about it anymore. I’m disappointed with the diet and have lost faith in it.

Hi Tallyhoo,
A suggestion – have a look into the ingredients of the slim rice and see if it’s something that may cause water retention (before it makes its way through your digestive system).
Best wishes.

Hi 4stonetolose,
We’ve all been there.
It sounds like you’ve had a tough week. Be kind to yourself.
If BSD800 is too much for you at present there is always the options of 5:2BSD or low carb med style with no calorie counting.
My guess is that you’ll be determined to get back into the BSD800 to complete your 8 weeks.
Have you been incorporating any exercise or mindfulness meditation?
I’m a huge fan of both now. I walk daily (weather permitting) and do mindfulness meditation…….have a bit of an exploration and if you haven’t tried them, find something that suits you. They are just so beneficial especially when life throws you a curve ball.
If you find you’re not bouncing back your GP would be a good person to discuss this with.

Welcome! You’ll get so much great advice on these forums.

I’m just finishing week 7. I’ve lost more slowly than I’d hoped, just under a stone so far, although I really have stuck to it, mainly using the food plan in the book, but hey ho, some people’s bodies are slower than others.

I had something very stressful this week though and took 3 days off. Shouldn’t have been a problem if I’d been sensible, but I was straight on to the sugar eg I ate a whole packet of the chocolate covered German biscuits yesterday. I felt really unwell last night, I feel guilty and I’m dreading standing on the scales today. I was an idiot!

I know I should just forget it and get back to plan today, but somehow I feel a bit down. I’m desperate for this diet to work, it makes such sense. I just wish I was better at it.

Sorry for the winge!

Sorry, meant to add that BG readings in the 6-7 range would be wonderful news for many diabetics Tofa, so don’t be too discouraged. Apart from expensive scans, weighing machines which give visceral fat amounts are in a lot of public sports centres or you can buy a more modest version for £30ish. On mine it gives a healthy range of such fat as 1 – 12 and unhealthy as 13 – 69. A month ago my reading was 20 and after 4 weeks of average of 12.5g per day of inulin had dropped to 19. Now on 25g per day with daily target of 30 from next week so hope reduction will now be quicker, but apparently have to allow 6 months for dispersal. We will see.

Friday day 104 weight 9st 12lbs
Blood sugar 10.3

Saturday Day 105 end of week 15 weight 9st 12!bs
Blood sugar 6.9 (under 7 for the first time) 😀😀😀

Today Day 106 weight 9st 12lbs
Blood sugar 6.4. WOW 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

My blood sugar is finally getting markedly better. Hopefully the is the start of the home straight! 😇

I was delighted yesterday morning as I had officially lost 3 1/2 stone YAAY! So my official weigh in day is Monday morning of course, which means I knew I had to be very careful yesterday and today to maintain that result (or lose a bit more possibly) before weight in tomorrow. I weigh myself every day because I know there are fluctuations and I like to see these during the week so I have no big surprises on a Monday – my kind of logic!

I had my usual breakfast of raspberries and full fat yoghurt, for lunch I had a bowl of minestrone soup (no pasta obviously) as a recipe on the forum which I have had many many times before, with a sprinkling of mozarella and for dinner home made vegetable chilli with new (for me) slim rice (7 carbs in it only). Total 700 calories……….. drank 2 litres of water and spent the day on my feet walking everywhere

Can somebody please explain WHY and HOW I can possibly be 3 lbs heavier on the scale………..I know it isn’t fat but I also know it’ll take me days – probs a week to see a difference on the scale…………Really annoyed

I have signed. If people keep with “the same old” then they will get “that same old”. A lot of people are so resistant to change.

Thank you for the link Skywalker. I found it very encouraging that healthcare practitioners will be better informed. An elderly parent has just developed Type 2 and the advice she was given hasn’t been anywhere near MM’s book guidelines. If she’d been given the advice in this leaflet I would have been happy.

Has anyone read about ‘Banting’ or Real Meal revolution? I listened to a really interesting lecture by Prof Tim Noakes on how industry engineered the low fat, high carb diet messgae in the 60s/70s. I can’t link it here are it was in a subscription based site. Google videos by prof Tim Noakes.
https://vimeo.com/136374130

He had to face a hearing in South Africa for his advice. Big companies (Pharma & food) really don’t like to have contradictory ideas voiced.

Fourth day numbers: weight 12st 2lb (stayed the same) 502.5 calories plus the unmeasured food that I had at my sister-in-law’s 11 water 1 peppermint tea 4 coffees and 2 glasses of wine. Exercise, I walked 3.52 miles. It will be interesting what the scales read in the morning.

I have survived the evening out including 2 gasses of wine. This morning I weigh the same 12st 2lb and that proves that I can go out and eat well and not pigout

Congratulations Jean. Here’s to the next 10kg

PeterPerkin, wishing you a very happy birthday to a healthy new you. I raise a glass of water to you, cheers.