Hi

Started today after 5 days of just no bread, potatoes or rice. I have a lot to lose and so lost 3lbs in those 5 days.

Today was Day 1 and no problem really with food. Stayed within 800 cals but was up to nearly 75carbs! So ok not the end of the world BUT then the red wine reared it’s ugly head!!

Does anybody else find losing the wine hard? Any suggestions for alternatives.

Yes I think I might alternate some Fast Days and skip a breakfast and have a light lunch, I quite like the idea of a long Fast and it seems to be working for me, not only am I losing weight, my BS are lowering too, wish I’d done this 9 years ago when I was diagnosed Type 2 diabetic, still better late than never.

Hi there, I’m new to the BSD and I’m delighted to see that there’s a vibrant community here. I’ve just picked up the book and I am about to get started.

I’m a 37 year old dad of 2 and a husband, and I feel like my biggest challenge is going to be leading by example, and convincing my family that our dietary changes are a good thing.

Anyone else in a similar situation, and if you are, what’s the best way to lead, yet make the diet transition as easy as possible for the rest of the crew?

Lucia,
Will do, boss.
(Best laugh of the day is when I look in the mirror)
I shall have a big smile on my face tomorrow morning – only working half the day then off to Cricket, Lovely Cricket 🙂
(Might even have. G&T to help me lighten up)
🙂
John

No, proper turnips. I don’t think I’ve ever tried them to be honest. Keep having massive arguments with hubby because he insists on calling swede ‘turnip’. One’s orange, one’s white-ish. I’ve even Googled it to show him. Nope. Won’t have it.

I’ve never tried kale either to be honest, I keep buying bags of it and then it rots as I debate whether or not to eat it. My bad…

Turnips don’t do it for me. Unless you mean swede because that’s the geographical confusion. Kale is supposedly a superfood bit TBH I just feed it to my Guinea pigs. Ms Cotton would be appalled, she’s addicted to the stuff.

Pasta of bitterness with ground dust and steamed kale as a side dish. I don’t know what she used to steam the kale, but I’ll pass on it, thank you.

The wedges look promising, could be fooled into thinking they were potatoes if you cut them into… roast potato shapes and seasoned them. The twice roasted turnip looks ok.

Bitterly??!’ Damn predictive text. Pasta of bitterness is quite obviously a Paltrow recipe. Bring me a pot of hurrah immediately!!!

How is your turnip investigation going…🤔

I’m just investigating turnips, currently…

http://blog.paleohacks.com/hacks-turnips-instead-of-potatoes/#

I posted about this yesterday but cant seem to find it. In short, b/g 60 (3.3) an hour before dinner, which I find scary, what do I eat. Obviously not what a nutritionist told me BREAD and SWEET JUICE for a quick repair. I don’t want to black out.

Bitterly? We have Tokyo with her pot of hurrah, and you with your pasta of bitterness???

Hi everybody! I started on 30 June so this is the end of my first week. I have about 7 stone to lose so it’s going to be a long journey but judging by how well and positive I feel at the end of this first week I am sure that I will get there. I found day 3/4 quite hard as I had a big energy dip but that has passed and now I feel really energised and haven’t really been hungry at all.
It’s great to see so many of us taking this positive step and it’s lovely to hear how well everyone is doing so far-lets keep going and I know we will all reach our goals!!!!
Good luck everybody!!!

Roasted cauliflower balls? It could work? I mean if you can turn cauli into mash you can surely roast it??

I’m watching Murray at Wimbledon before the game kicks off at 8pm. I’m hoping he hurries up and gets finished. Come on Wales!!

Just had carrot spaghetti (carrotti? Spaghotti? Carretti?) and was fully prepared to hate it with my bolognaise. But.. Lovely! A bit more substance than courgetti or bitterly and held the sauce well.. So thumbs up!!

Yay for liking my shake 🙂 Try using strawberries instead… or leave out the yoghurt and add lots of ice – it turns out the consistency of a slush puppy, but still tasting like a shake. Lovely on a hot day.

No I’ve not tried the dried ones but I expect they would be ok if you soaked them, They do make the house smell pickled! I hope you enjoyed them and I hope the Queen didn’t drop by haha.

We just had a yummy dinner… everyone ate it even the daughter. I didn’t have time to faff about making fish fingers so I laid all the fillets out in a baking tray, brushed them with beaten egg, added some crushed almond flour crackers, then sprinkled mozarella all over. They were yummy and much faster than making fish fingers. We had baked veg with the fish, the rest had potato wedges but not me.

I didn’t eat a bacon roll today either, I didn’t even fancy one, and I’m not sure anyone even noticed that I didn’t eat one either not that I was bothered. I’ve spoken to a few of them about what I’m doing so it isn’t hidden.

I know there will be cravings in my future but at the moment I’m finding even when I see potato wedges etc – I just don’t want them.

Oh, and if nobody minds…

Ty’d ymlaen Cymru!

This ITV commentary is like listening to paint dry, geez… even hubby has said to put the Welsh Channel 4 on, and he can’t understand anything except colours and the word ‘beer’.

Third week 17 pounds lost but today Wednesday feel like I’ve fell off a cliff!!! Following the previous days of feeling the best I’ve felt in years. Today woke up with a light head, not feeling all there and completely got to me by the afternoon where I could have just gone to a pastry shop and eat the lot!!
I didnt, but did buy a chunky KitKat and devoured it. Head ache most of the day, drank plenty of water so couldnt understand why I felt like I did. Even called into the doctors to check blood pressure to see if that was an issue but this seems normal (140/87). Need to keep an eye on this as I’m taking medication for this.
Hope this is just a blip and all come back in the next day or so?

Can we pulse cauliflower in a FP and mix it into balls with gram flour and coconut oil or olive oil and maybe… some… some… almond flour and… and… and roast them?????? Clutching at straws, much?

Those yorkies look damn fine though!

Just….WOW.

Yorkie puds?!
Triple choc brownies????

All we have to do is find a low carb alternative to a roast potato and we are all set for Sunday dinner!!!

So string breaker……
You do the exercises in the middle of the week without pj’s. 😊😊😊😊😊😊

You are doing some pretty tough exercises….. But where are your smiles and laughter.

So your task, my little Paduan, is to read a comic strip, or watch a movie like the minions, within an hour of your next exercise.
Loosen up a little…. Enjoy life too.
But
I am proud of you.
Stick with it.
And yes, we need to give ourselves an extra minute a year.
Enjoy it. You haven’t lived until you try and do one workout, with Jane Fonda. In the 80’s, free on you tube.
Look at the outfit, makeup and heels,
I had a go with her, laughed my leg warmers right off.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi Igorasusual,
Thank you so much, sometimes feel I am managing my pre- DT2 totally on my own, but have now managed to make a GP appointment albeit in 3 weeks time and will request Hba1c. I wasn’t offered one before which strikes me I should have been after the initial 6.6 reading…(my bro was in Aus)!! Anyway it will be interesting to see how it comes out and strangely comforted that Bill54 does not put too much store by morning fasting levels (they were encouraging when they were low of course!) I did notice a previous thread about raised glucose levels, but had missed the bit about the reliability of Hba1c and not getting depressed by fasting levels. (I guess if pre-meal testing, then it would preclude snacking in between meals, even if snack is low carb/no carb ish to get a better result?!)

Thanks for the recommendations…much appreciated,….will calculate my metabolic base rate on the website you recommend and look at p.211 on Art and Science of low carb eating, on kindle…sounds v. helpful. On the brighter side have given at least 3, T2 people BSD book and one of them is an excellent cook and has invited us to supper, so turned out to be quite a good wheeze!!.
Thanks Tofa

ppffrrrr! Izzy am trying the salt & vinegar chickpeas tonight and hope the queen doesn’t call as my little flat reeks of vinegar – like a fish & chip shop. Got one eye on Andy Murray galloping about on centre court. If I had half his energy and stamina…..
Anyway back to chickpeas. Have your tried the dried ones? would be cheaper, but have to boil & soak overnight I think?

Hi hel,
Wonder how far you walked the the flower show.
Probably miles.
Great to hear what you are doing, but most importantly , you must enjoy yourself.

I usually sing.

Something appropriate, eg yoga, I sing … Tangled!

Puddle bashing….. I sing … Just go ahead and jump…. Is it the Who?

Hopscotch, I sing chas and dave’s ,,,, you’ve got more rabbit than sainsburys, why don’t you give it a rest, rabbit, rabbit, bunny, bunny…..

Love Lucia
Xxxx

The start of day 3. Day 2 was pretty easy but I’m dreading getting through today. Off to my hubby’s relatives for a big feast….I am working my mind into it to make sure I don’t mess up. Please don’t let me mess up. Hopefully nobody notices I’m not eating. This morning for breakfast I had two slices of turkey bacon and two poached eggs. It was so tasty. The rest of the family had the same with the addition of buttered toast and buttered muffins. I’m stopping myself from stepping on the scale every five minutes…a bad habit. I’m going to weigh in on Monday morn, one week after my start.

Good luck to everyone today.

Tokyo!!!! Janey!!!!

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/recipes/2010/11/08/gram-yorkshire-puddings/

Hi Seadog, and well done on your 6 days – so glad you’re feeling better! I personally have found the BSD is amazing in terms of extra energy and pizazz.

With regard to weighing, it’s fine to weigh every day or every week, whatever suits you. However, it’s also key to measure yourself, either with tape measure (waist, hips, thighs etc) or via clothing because quite often weight plateaus, or you don’t lose as much weight as other people on the forum, and you get discouraged.

It really is an 8 week journey, with each individual body responding differently, so the key thing is not how much you weigh yourself but your attitude at the result. If you stick to the BSD principles and calories you WILL lose weight, but how much is really difficult to predict.

I could see myself getting thinner (as your friends have noted with you) whilst my weight stayed level. It’s the fat going from the internal organs I think.

And brace yourself that the fat goes from the visceral fat first, and the bit under your belly button, which is the subcutaneous fat we all want to lose, is last to go. It b—-dy would be.

Hope that helps! 🙂

Hi, am just wondering if I can get some advice ?. I’m on day 6 now and starting to feel like my old self (but better !! ha ha), and I’ve had a few compliments already about my disappearing tummy…I’m going to weigh myself next week and see where I’m at. Two questions really ?, how often do you weigh yourselves ?, as I’m of the addictive personality type, I’m not keen to weigh every day as I think I may get a bit obsessive, but on the other hand, I need to weigh myself often enough to see results ?, I’m thinking twice a week, say Sunday and Weds ?.
Next question concerns water, I’m drinking 3 litres a day plus cups of tea, but could quite happily drink more ?. I’m finding I love really cold water, but how much is too much ?. My loo visits are obviously more frequent, and longer ! Thanks guys.

Hi greenjanet. I’ve got a good 4 stone to lose to even begin to edge into a healthy BMI. – like you I’m finding the limiting of veg aand counting calories a complete turnaround after years of a certain renowned eating plan saying the opposite! But then that hasn’t worked for me so this is a fresh start and it’s making me think and write down rather than presuming I know how much I’m eating. Got a wedding in September so hoping to make some good headway by then. Not going clothes shopping til the last minute!!
Keep on trucking eh?!
C:0)

Reminds me of Kryten in Red Dwarf – Smug mode: Engaged 🙂 hahahaha

Oh how lovely of him to think of you, it’s nice when they do stuff like that, it means more to me than flowers or jewellery. Just bring me a bloody pie, stat! Hubby just reminded me the pies I like from Wigan are Greenhalgh’s steak, oval shaped with a hole in the middle?

Oh God Tokyo, how good do those look??? 101 calories per cookie too! Are you making them, or are you going to continue your hunt??

Hi Indy – thanks for the reassurance that I’m not on my own with the cravings and the early night, and come to think of it, I have been sleeping better as well – not so much waking up in the night.

Fortunately, today feels a lot better as in minimum cravings for which I’m very grateful as yesterday felt like a white knuckle ride. I’m sure it won’t be the last, so I am very grateful for the reassurance.

look what i found

http://powerhungry.com/2015/12/4012/

double chocolate chickpea flour cookies !!!!

Hi Tofa

I’m so sorry you are feeling so down and dismal as you have done so well.

Firstly I must say I am not an expert, and maybe it is time for you to go and consult your doctor again with regard to th fasting blood sugar levels (which presumably you are testing yourself). However, if you look at Bill54’s posts he often talks about fasting BS being unexpectedly high, and that he does not now take any notice of them. He relies on testing blood ahead of and after meals and sees this as a much more reliable measure.

I am sure he will pop on here to advise you, or you could add something on one of his threads which he will be alerted to.

With regard to the weight loss, do you know what your Base Metabolic Rate is? Try looking at this site

http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

into which you put your own details, and your activity levels, and then see how many calories you need to maintain your weight.

Then you can set your carbs – perhaps you will respond well to 50-75g per day, you could try – and if you then set your calories at the maintenance level it tells you, it will help you set fat and protein.

And that will give you the guidance on how to plan your menu going forward.

So long as you keep carbs (relatively) low, you will maintain your blood sugar levels you’ve got from the BSD, and then the additional fat and protein within your carbs should maintain weight.. May I also recommend a book – which you should probably leaf through quickly, as I did (very scientific, though extremely interesting) – it’s called The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Eating by Jeff Volek and Stephen Phinney , and is available on Kindle – and go to pg 211 where it talks about how to achieve a balance of nutrients for maintaining weight.

Good luck and please keep us posted. No need at all to despair, please don’t.

Forgot to say I have fibromyalgia and severe osteoarthritis in my knees ( waiting for new knees) so increase in walking is difficult.

Hi all
I didn’t start until 4th July which could be a good day to start. My husband and I are doing this together along with a friend. I need to lose 3st in the first instance and hubby needs to lose 5st.
Whilst I am prepared to eat most things, hubby is finding the food strange and missing his meat and potatoes or rice, but I am determined so it will be a case of eat it or go hungry!! Lol

ha ha i longed for greenhalghs pasties i had told my other half about them many times then last year he had a meeting in wigan came home and said i have a present for you !!!
yes yes yes it was a greenhalghs pastie !!! and it tasted just the same as when i was at school!!!!
my cupboard of useless items has frown so i blame you too ( paltrow and cotton ) oh how i laugh every time i write it !!!!
am i really on a diet i am having way too much fun !!
so i have made the wraps i have made the guacamole and also a yoghurt dip so smug no 4
ladies and gentlemen i think i am done !!!!!

Tokyo – why do you think I’m so desperate to find a pie crust? I’m married to a pie eater lol

Hi, I am a TOFI with 40 years history of eating whole foods, healthy lifestyle and have always been on the BMI healthy weight scale. After a fasting blood glucose of 6.6 at the GP’s started the diet in late March and have kept to the principles of food types and kept carbs to 50 g per day . GP was the one who advised look at Prof Taylor’s research etc.

Through May all blood readings were great ; in the non diabetic range. I was so happy- I was then 9 stone. I have found it difficult to stop losing weight and have carried on losing despite best intentions. Since beginning of June all fasting readings have been in the pre-diabetic range 6.4-7.00 included again!. Most of the post-prandial readings have been in the non-diabetic range two hours after a meal, below 7.8. I have not changed anything I eat. I seem to have returned to having fasting blood glucose levels of the pre-diabetic. The only thing that has changed is that I am now 8 and a half stone. What is going on? This does not make sense to me. I am more exercised than ever and slim as a whippet. I have not been extra stressed and indeed have been on a relaxing holiday by the sea, not eating out but continuing to cook my own food. Any ideas?
Secondly I would rather not have lost quite so much weight and 9stone seemed to be optimum. Have tried extra oils, fats, nuts seeds etc. which has stopped the loss but not created any gain….thinking about increasing carbs a bit with in between meal snacks until I get back to that weight…any ideas??
( I should add I was previously vegetarian with occasional fish and now I have had to increase fish and reduce the grains, pulses and beans. Also discovered in March, I had high cholesterol of both sorts but still too high….preferred low fat yogurts etc but had to switch to high to try stop weight loss…..people have recommended red rice supplement for the cholesterol but was hoping to sort out the glucose levels first! ) Feeling pretty dismal as I have tried so hard. Tofa

He said Greenhalgh’s pasties were good on a buttered barmcake 😉

i went to school in leigh not that far from wigan ask him if he used to eat greenhalghs pasties !!!!( sounds wrong when its written down ) !!

Fairy cake???? What the what??????????

Good grief, I’m with you there. I’m keeping my curves. The absolute lowest I would go (wishful thinking – maybe not!) is 10/10 and a half stone. I don’t care who says I should be 7 stone 13, that is NOT happening, I tell thee!

Fat monochrome ladybird??? Bwahahahahahahahahahah, what a vision I have in my mind now. I don’t have too much in the way of bizarre yet, I’m building up slowly, gram flour, coconut flour, coconut sugar, and almond flour. That said, I have blueberry muffins in the freezer, and I’ll freeze these scones too later, so I think I need to concentrate on savoury stuff now 🙂

By the way I’m not being Paltrow. She has a steam cleaned fairy cake 😳

Paltrow and Cotton in sumo suits maybe. I don’t ever want to look like one of those scrawny chicks! Your comment about clothes ‘fitting like a bugger’ also made me snigger behind my computer screen at work. The spotty trousers I am sporting today did actually make me look like a fat monochrome ladybird the last time I squeezed into them 😆

The gauntlet has been thrown down with the scones now…. Must be time to break out the apple cider vinegar and other bizarre ingredients as a parry.

Ahhhh I lived in Manchester when I was an impoverished student, and then a few more years, that’s where ex husband is 🙂 Latest (lol) husband is from Wigan, so I must have something for men in the Greater Manchester area or something 😉

Ohhhhhh I love guacamole, and yes, you have control of what’s in it and how much you have. Lovely to go with your fajitas 🙂

I think it has to be chickpea related. You do the scones, I’ll do the pastry and we’ll meet back at HQ at eighteen hundred hours and compare notes 😉

As long as Janey is Paltrow…? Tell me it’s not me, please *shudders*. Sooner be that woman who pokes through poo. Gillian whatsername.

It is easier to be organised, look what happened the other night when I made pink curry? Kebab delivery. Thankfully I had the willpower to eat just the chicken and salad and leave the bread, but on a PMT week… risky. I need to be better organised myself. I was really good at the start, planning what I was having for the whole week, making homemade soups and freezing them, but I’ve slackened off the last week or so.

There is no way that I could function all day through an afternoon without food so I fast overnight by eating an early dinner (somewhere between 5-7 pm) and then going through the night, skip breakfast and eat lunch whenever I really need it (usually around 12- 1 pm). That gets me 18-19 hours of fasting which works great. I try to do it as much as I can. My body makes it very clear when I really need to eat again! I really really love my lunch on those days! Now and then on weekends, I make my post-fast lunch big (800-1000) calories and then fast again on through the following morning. i have actually started to enjoy fasting — me, piggy 😜! Imagine!

i am northern although my roots are growing up in manchester ( think thats where my heart is ) i now live the other side in yorkshire !!
congrats on the baking success i think like you the more food we have which appeal to us the longer we will stay focused!!! i am making some guaccamole as a bit of a side for tonights tea just a spoon but its a taste and i know what i have put into it !!!!
i have a free afternoon friday so may find something to bake for the weekend from my ever growing cupboard of unusal ingredients !!
i have to say when picture you and janey baking in my head its like paltrow and cotton in a bake off !!!( oh i just made myself laugh!!!)
i find if i am organised its easier so i fear i am turning into an organised stepford wife !!!! get me back to work !!!!!

Ok, one broke as I was getting it off the tray (honest!) so hubby and I tried a tiny bit each (about a cm) and – success! Flat, but very tasty indeed. Who needs flour??? And I was surprised when I worked out the calories – they’re a very respectable 280 calories each, which is good when you consider the recipe I use for ‘normal’ scones is 268 calories each. The more success I have with each ‘category’ of food, I know the more likely I am to stay eating this way for the long term. It’s not that I’m constantly bingeing on cakes and scones, honest! They’re getting frozen!

Afternoon Tokyo, oh Smug One! Glad your day was a success, and well done on the dress… looked a right bugger in lmao. You’re not Northern are you, Tokyo? Sounds like the sort of thing my husband would come out with.

Oh isn’t that funny? It seems to be happening to a lot of people when they reintroduce food. I suppose it’s good in a way, we’ll be less likely to fall back on bad habits! Make sure you’ve got enough yogurt in in future.

I’m seeing Janey’s £8K brownies and I’m raising her Grain free lemon and blueberry scones. Jesus Christ on a bike, they’d better taste nice is all I’m saying and thank God I used my initiative. Bloody US recipes (no offence to anyone from the USA) with their cups, I’d have had nothing but liquid if I hadn’t added it little by little. The scone dough was moist to say the least, I nearly had to pipe it on the tray. They’re cooking now, look and smell nice but they’re flattening out like the worlds most calorific cookies. I won’t be able to cut one in half, so does that mean I get to have 2?????

I don’t think I’ll have time to do the pastry today, and probably best too considering how many calories in these scones 😛

Hi guys I’m still here!! I’m it’s been. Crazy time but I’m back on the wagon!!

Last night savoury mince with celeriac mash. Today ok quiche but I didn’t eat the pastry with beetroot and lettuce and cucumber so not bad. Supper it’s celery and cottage cheese…

I’m back!

The chocolate craving didn’t last thankfully 😀
Since Thursday I’ve shifted 5lb, I’m sleeping better and I don’t feel as tired when I wake up.
Everything I’ve eaten I’ve enjoyed and so has my hubby. Even the kids are enjoying it but with carbs.
I would like to shift another 11 lb by the 6 August when I go on my holibobs