Fantastic results Yowzer, congratulations 😀

So,
After growly day, how do we all feel?
Ready to knock seven bells out of another pound of blubber?
Walking, cycling or just wiggling about?

I am going to do all three.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Hi Jon
Bril work so far, what change in your sight do you mean better or worse
Regards jan

Hi Yowser.
Still hitting the ground running at the mo, but getting on top of things now, so it’s getting easier, and guess what my smaller pants are now loose so I have two sizes of voluminous pants to add to the camping equipment.
Mind you if we keep loosing weight we might need the layers to keep us warm. Hehehe

Well howde folks and I’d like to join this merry bunch by saying I’m just about to enter day 12 of the eight weeks and in 7 days had lost 7lbs and one inch on my waist.
I’m hoping for a few pounds more when Monday comes round again!
I’ve been diabetic for nearly 10 years and am 55 with moderate to severe neuropathy in my feet for some years and an increased risk of what was described as a’ 45% risk of a major event like Stoke or heart attack in the next five year’ by my Dr!Time to try something other than sit on my squidgy bum it was decided by my wife so here I am not having let a piece of bread , a custard cream or a host of other carbs pass my lips since a week last Sunday… Energy levels are low especially as I’m an opera singer for whom a performance offers my pancreas a spike you wouldn’t quite believe in adrenalin and therefore insulin production ( attempts at least).
It’s hard but the early results are promising so it’s just going to be a daily decision to carry on I guess.
Did anyone with type two notice a change in their vision ?
Happened a few days ago and would like to know if anyone else has experienced it.
Much respect to all of you attempting to do something about this addiction to sugar that we have and keep it up on those good 800 calories!
Jon v

Hi Flash, welcome to the home of the mini-reasons-to-celebrate and feel proud of yourself thread. As others have said, the goals can be any shape or size. My first ‘bigger’ mini-goal was a dress I had bought in the January sales, size 18 when at the time I was trying very hard not to buy anything bigger than size 22. I wanted to wear it for my birthday in June and found when I tried it on a week before that I had almost missed the ‘window of opportunity’ and it was slightly big. I managed to wear it twice before it now looks like a tent on me, and will have to go.

Jules that sounds like a positively huge mini goal, best of luck in the weight loss and the training.

So, middle of week 2 is here; sat watching GBBO, they’re making Bakewell Tarts, and I find myself with a hankering for a handful of walnuts halves – what the hell is that all about? Could this be the start of the lifestyle change I was after? Certainly can’t be a bad thing.

That brings me to onto another question – what does the unit of measure ‘a handful’ equate to? (commonly used in the 8WBSD recipe book). Does this tip a nod to the early days of Jamie Oliver’s Naked Chefs, when a ‘good glug’ was an acceptable measure?
Now I have what I consider to be medium sized hands which can comfortably hold a fair sized portion of any given ingredient, however, Andre The Giant and Jeremy Beadle’s handfuls would differ greatly in ingredient quantity, so how does one know?

Great to hear your experiences and also your encouragement, it’s always nice to know that other people are finding the same issues as yourself, and reading what to expect in the coming weeks – forewarned is forearmed as they say.

Keep up the good work everybody!

Well done Yowzer. Great result 😃💐🎈

Yowzer – my voluminous undies have long gone 😃 Perhaps yours could join my overcoat as camping equipment! Sold on eBay?

I bought a pencil skirt a few weeks ago, when I was in York – now it’s too big! I did buy a 14 because a 12 would have been ‘snug’ – should have known better😱

Looking forward to seeing you on my new thread😃 X

Hehe! JANEYCOUGHDROP i was thinking the same thing! 😄😄😄😄
Wait! Maybe a tractor instead?
How are you doing Janey?

JAN Great advice there for our Lucky and me..wil deffo try the hotty/ ice pack combo
I cant take those strong p/ killers coz of my bp meds but i may be off them soon..hoorah!
How are you my backseat friend? I hope the work pressure is easing off now x

Yes CAPTAINLYNNEi think need some new nix ..(perhaps someone could use the harvest ones for going camping!) AND maybe new trousers..theyre all getting a bit voluminous( great word!)
10 weeks ago i wd fasten trousers and they wd pop open again!
I still have a few pair i cant get back into yet..i ‘ll have another try on and see what happens X
I must visit yr new thread Cap’ n and see whats happening over there! X

Yowser you’re so funny 😅😅😅

Thanks Imogen
😊

Lucky
Very seriously now, get yourself asap to a chiropractor, not an osteopath, you will have to pay, but it will get you sorted, you are a prime age for back problems, and it won’t sort itself. The chiropractor will get your spine realigned, and it’s painless, but very essential for you. If you ignore it the chronic pain will become a long term problem, but sort it now and you will only need maintenance. In the interim to reduce the inflammation, use hot water bottle and a freeze pack alternate 30 secs each for 10 mins, and do that as many times a day as possible. If you are able to take some anti inflammatory disclose act is the best, but be advised by your pharmacist.
Hope you get sorted soon.
I had the same when I was in my 40s and due to bad advise ended up on bed rest for 5 weeks, not good. Bed rest is the worst thing you can do. Keep us posted.

Yowser 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 way to go girl, you are rocking. 😊😊😊😊😊

Loopylou thanks for the encouragement. I live an hour from Brighton love it there.

Hi Lucy Jane,
I have been on the bsd diet since February, I lost two and a half stone, had a ‘rest’ then got back to the diet, while I was resting a did a bit of an experiment, so one day I ate all my favourite foods from pre bsd! Banana butty, chocolate fudge cake, porridge chocolate, ice cream, that sort of stuff, the following morning I had only put one pound on! I then relaxed a bit more carefully and over the two weeks only put a total of three pounds on, which went up or down depending on what I ate that day. I started back on the strict bsd on Monday and have already lost a pound each day, today I even went out for lunch with friends and managed to have a bsd meal.
So good luck, I’m sure if you keep to the bsd principles you will be ok, I think we have all worried wether we can maintain our weight.
Christine.

I’m not sure having the vicar and his wife in your knickers is a great idea?! 😂😂😂😂

Sounds great, Chistine 😃

LOL Yowzer 😃

Time to go shopping?

Hi Lynne,
I would make the recipe up, until the point where you have to add the eggs, portion it up and freeze it, then when you want a portion just defrost it, add the hard boiled eggs, top it with the celeriac and grated cheese and voille there you have a lovely creamy fish dish which is really filling. Good luck.
Christine.

Thanks guys!
My ” All is safely gathered in” harvest knickers are getting quite loose..
I could get the vicar and his wife in there now! .. 😉😉😉😉😉😉 xx

Hi Lynne,
Good luck with the nurse tomorrow! It will be interesting to hear what she has to say!

Hi Jackie Wilso said,
I have had a few weeks ‘rest’ after my visit to the doctor to see him about my weight loss and whether I was still pre-diebetic, I had lost two and a half stone, however I wanted to lose another stone, but had reached a plateau! He suggested the resting, I started back on Monday this week and have already lost a pound each day! So to,answer your question I think it would be ok and also a success to do a reboot? So good luck and go for it!
Christine.

Yes Igorasusual that does make sense. I think I will have to do the same as lower carbs really seem to suit me. I dare not ever again go back to the starchy and sugary carbs as that’s what got me needing insulin. Going up to 50g carbs sounds a very good maintenance programme. Thank you for the info on the keto calculator – It is really helpful – I can now start planning the next stage.

Hi Maggs – it is wonderful, although I still can hardly believe it. The reason it took me 5 months is that I didn’t do it properly for the first 4 months. Because I didn’t weigh anything I was probably doing the fast 1800 rather than the fast 800m

Thanks Christine 😃💐

Living alone it helps to be able to freeze extra portions. Otherwise it’s altering quantities and that doesn’t always work.

Of course I could always wait until the twins visit again to make it 😃

Hi Lynne,
As it’s got hard boiled egg in, I’m not sure whether it would freeze, you could make it up to the point where you put the eggs in then when you want to cook it just add the eggs and cover with the celeriac?
In my experience hard boiled eggs go rubbery when they are frozen, hope that helps?
Christine.

Hi Jackie

The weight of 9st 7lb has been the one voiced by medics for decades when they’ve talked about my weight, so it was in my mind. When I started the BSD I thought my height was 5ft 2ins, so the top of my healthy BMI was 9st 11lb. At that point I thought somewhere around 9st 7lb would give me a little wriggle room under the top of my healthy BMI.

But then they checked my height at the doctors. And I was 5ft 1ins😱, making the top of my healthy BMI 9st 7lb!

So I decided that was my target, but wanted to still lose a few more pounds so that Imhad that wriggle room, especially while working out how to maintain my new weight.

Yes the BMI is an arbitrary figure, but I needed something to work from.

I’d already attained normal fasting bloods and HbA1c, many months ago. So goals were then not particularly health related. I wanted to be able to ‘double cross’ my legs as I once could do. That is ticked off. I used to be able to touch the ground, without bending my knees, with my palms flat on the floor. Today I discovered I can now do that again😃. Another tick. Shop in ‘normal’ clothes shops – tick. I’m now able to tuck tops in, rather than having to wear them outside skirts and trousers 😃.

Once upon a time I dropped down to 8st 7lb (due to stress) but that was too low for me. So, at the moment, I’ll say I want to stay between 9st and 9st 7lb, but not go above that upper limit.

I’m seeing my diabetes nurse tomorrow, to let her know I’ve reached my target weight (and what it is). Interested to see what she has to say!

I like my actifry very much – I do sweet potato chips with a half teaspoon of coconut oil – food direct from heaven! Too carby for some, perhaps.

I’ve also done chicken thighs in the actifry and they were amazing. I’ve got some celeriac to try making celeriac chips this weekend – will let you know!

Hiya Jan🙋

You know what you’ve got to do…back on the BSD bus!!! 😉 Hope you OK.x

KrysiaD – re your maintenance question:

My target calories for maintenance are just over 1500 per day (as defined by http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com, which I’ve found really helpful), and I’m finding that I’m generally eating as much as I want but coming in slightly under that total calorie count.

I’m still keeping carbs low, sometimes 30-40g per day and sometimes 50 plus (yesterday was 78 as I concocted an absolutely yummy cauliflower daal with split peas and coconut milk as well as all the Indian spices for dinner, which was 33 carbs on its own)

Haven’t wanted/had bread except a slice of high protein seeded bread with my breakfast eggs (good for digestive transit 😉 ) and don’t want potatoes either, or rice.

So I suppose my answer is I think I will keep carbs to 50g per day or so, not really because I’m trying to, but because it suits me. if that makes sense.

Hooray well done

captainlynne – I have a question:

How did you decide what target weight was good?
particularly given the different opinions as to what is good – some argue that BMI is a bit arbitrary etc.

I felt pretty pleased with what I got on the 8 weeks. After watching the Mosley docs and reading extensively about diet and weight I settled for normalised HbA1c, 5″ less waist and -25lbs and that all my clothes now fit or are loose.
Another few pounds and slightly less internal fat might be nice but if I went for a BMI governed weight I would be on the BSD for much longer I think.

Any thoughts?

That all sounds fabulous! It has just been impossible for my partner to loose weight his medications just make it worse. He was started on the injectable to help him lose weight by making him nauseous! An effect of the medicine but only short lived…. He did not loose weight.
KrysiaD you must feel as if you have got your life back that is amazing. Is it five months you have been doing this?

Sunshine girl – I’ll get the next round!
Yowzer – amazing👶😃. Well done!

Thanks again to all of you.

I have to agree that I was a bit put out by my gp’s news that I should try to stay more in the 7-9 range! As for the reference to my advancing years – I was somewhat put out. After all, in my head I’m only in my 40’s!!

I’m currently around 11stone 4lb and 5’5″ in height. Most of my weight is around my middle – and that’s what’s worrying me most.

I currently take 20 units Lantus daily – 3x500g Metformin – Lisinopril and Amlodipine for BP – and Pravastatin and Aspirin (these last two seem to be the norm for diabetics). Added on at my last review was Lansoprazole – to counteract all the side effects from the meds.

I’m around half way through the BSD book and am already reducing my carbs as far as bread/pasta/rice etc. Not a great veg lover but am keeping a notebook of all the recipes I come across.

So – thank you all again. I’m working my way through lots of the forum posts – which will certainly keep me busy – and hopefully keep me motivated and stop me misbehaving!!

Yay Yowser, fantastic weight loss!!!🏆👏💐

Yowzer – wow 39lbs!!!
Sunshine-girl – you must have done the happy dance when you got on the scales today!!!

Thank you Igorasusual. I think you are absolutely right it was the much lower carbs that worked for me.
You must feel so good – you have lost more weight than you originally intended and have maintained that weight loss in maintenance.
I am looking forward to being on maintenance also. Have you found you still need to keep your carbs very low on maintenance?

Congratulations Yowser – great loss🏆👏💐

I have had a full set of bloods done since I started and nothing but good news. You are advised to take a multi vit so that should cover all bases but the diet is rich in nutrients anyway. The things you mention do not get flushed out in your wee so it would not have any effect. But don’t quote me.

We did have a member who became deficient in B12 but it turned out that he was a vegetarian and in order to lose more weight had cut out most of his proteins. Vegetarians are known to lack B12 if they do not replace meat with something like eggs, cheese, milk, chickpeas etc.

Great results KrysiaD! 🙂 You must be thrilled

I def think that the kicker is the low carbs – it worked for me re weight loss – though of course everyone is so variable it doesn’t work for all, indeed some people don’t need to cut the levels so low.

Keep on keeping on – now on maintenance, I’m really happy with my current weight, which is 4 lbs lighter than my original target and 8 lbs lighter than what I thought I might possibly achieve! 😉

Thanks LUCKY X and well done re kilo back off 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 😘🎈😘🎈😘🎈

So sorry bout yr sciatica.. I have same problem today..i took a short but brisk walk,legs and feet a blur,coz was on a big triumphant high after weigh in…also ran quite jauntily up n down a flight of stairs. Am lucky i didnt fall down the stairs coz am always dizzy and usually take them very carefully. Have been rewarded with painful sciatica all the way down like you…GAHHHH!
My own fault for wearing the Cape of Smugness and going a bit wild.! Left leg too,same as you,so we havent even got one working set of legs between us! 🙁🙁🙁🙁

To add to woes, my one and only lil maneki,all theway from Japan,fell off my keyring!

Still,39 lb down,am in pain but so happy! Yes deffo feel spurred on to continue!

I love doing xmas stockings! Enjoyed reading about yr buys!

Good on DS finding you a dongle x i dont even know what they look like and unsure what they do but i ‘ m surnising we’re talking computers rather than Ann Summers !😋😋😋😋

Ahh you know…giving him his tea..we all need a place where we know we can go and someone will give us a plate of food, Anytime anyday. He really is a LUCKY boy! Xx
Hope you get better soon x

Hi Maggs
Good news that the BSD is working so well.
Was on insulin (Lantus to cover the night and Novorapid with every meal). I was prescribed insulin as soon as I was diagnosed but no other medication.
I lost a stone between first of May and end of August. This got rid of the retinopathy but I was still injecting insulin as before.
On 3rd September decided to get more serious about the BSD. Downloaded Fat Secret, weighed all my food, kept to the 800 using my own recipes, and kept carbs below 50g (for me it seems to work better at 25g to 30g.
Started losing weight very fast (have lost 11lb since 3rd Sept and it looks as though all of it was off waist and tummy. Within only few days I had to come off all insulin as my own insulin is working perfectly.
My original goal was 10stone 7lb but I have just gone past that and it is very clear to see that there is still more tummy and waist fat that needs to go.
So I don’t know if it was the 800 calories and lower carbs that got rid of the visceral fat or that it only went when I got closer to my goal. My fasting is now 4.5 and I do drop to 3.7 at times. After a meal my readings are not going over 6.6. This is so amazing I can hardly believe it.

I forgot to add that I managed to fast from about 9pm last night to 2pm this afternoon. Really didn’t feel hungry until then. Let’s hope that continues…..

Hello CaptainLynne!

Oh to be at the stage where you don’t want bread or cakes! They seem to be dancing their way through my mind at the moment…I will have to condition myself to think of them as poison like your dad did. Thank you for the encouragement! I WILL DO THIS! 🙂

Well months later I am back! Lots has happened in the last few months but the time is right and on the 12 th September my partner and I started!
The effect on his bloods sugars is great if this goes on might have to see about reducing some of his medication but ten days in I guess it is a bit early yet.
Any others out there who can share their medication reduction story?

Hi – have recently started the BSD and doing really well so far. Has anyone got any experience of being on this diet with a high adrenaline job? I am a singer and so every now and then I perform under highly stressful conditions. The following day is always a massive post-adrenaline day. Coping on 800 calories has been really really tough on those days. Any advice?

Well done Yowzer! That new stone is always a wonderful moment, Spurs you on to continue doesn’t it? ⭐️

I have lost one of my four kilos gained by this morning. I am in total and utter agony today, the sciatica has shot down my left leg, it’s never been this bad in my leg before, so I’m in new pain territory, not familiar, and of course, it’s the left heel that hurts too. Doing a food shop with no strong pain relief in my bag, I was nearly crying in Morrisons and I am not a cryer. Sat with a coffee now waiting for it to kick in.

Mr Lucky bought me a new Christmas jumper in XL. Wasn’t what I quite had in mind when he said he’d get me a new top. But, still an XL 😊 Picked up a few bits for Christmas, stocking fillers and a wicker basket and chocolates for an American Candy hamper I’m making for my cousin. Ooooh Janey I got some silicon muffin trays too, think 1.99 for a 6 mould.

Son not as completely useless as I intimated yesterday. He found me a semi-working dongle when he came to pick up some of his stuff. And stung me for his tea. It keeps going off intermittently but is bet than nothing at the mo.

Hope all ok, it’s been quiet recently!

Whoop whoop thats great Yowzer.

By the way LOOPY you owe me for the coffees

Not sure which area to post it on, but anyway, has anyone found they are vitamin/mineral/iron deficient through drinking so much and flushing it out on this diet?

Glad you could hear it Boligreen! And cauli rice is the way to go! I love it. My last concotion with it was bacon and green beans, stirred through with a little full cream and some fresh parmesan. Heavenly! And enough to have some for dinner with leftovers for lunch. In fact I reckon I could easily have split it into three decent portions. Must. Learn. Portion. Control!!!