Hi PTman have you tried the chickpea flour flatbreads? Very like indian flat breads. Would that float your boat? 🙂 recipe is on this website – you could have one between you cut into strips with a dip and crudites

Hi
where are you based?
I have a load I can send you

Lynette

Hi kiwi, although I have finished the 8 weeks i am continuing for a while longer while slowly building the calories. I doubt I will go back to eating carbs the way I used to – it clearly didn’t do me any good. In future things like potatoes will be a very rare treat same with rice just a small spoon of brown rice with a curry, but feel i do t need it as i like the gram flour flatbreads 🙂

Hey Lolo – the general wisdom is that if you are sticking to the 800 cals it will happen. I am almost at the end of week 3 now and so far this week, I’m down 1lb. I’m not stressing about it though, ‘cos I feel better and my body is looking less bulky, which will keep me going until more pounds drop. Losing inches any where shows something must be happening, so use that to keep positive and motivated, the rest will follow I’m sure.

Hi everyone,
Well done everyone on their weight loss. Really helpful to be reading this thread. I am in week 4 and have only dropped 2.5lbs over the previous 1.5 weeks… Topping that, I also haven’t lost any inches around my waist! I have been loosing from my thighs, bum and boobs!! *sigh* However it has to eventually start coming off again and from my waist, right?! Been helpful to read these posts. Thanks x

Lidl do a 10% full fat Turkish yogurt which is fab – 111cals per 100g, but because of the higher fat content you don’t need a lot to give a satisfied feeling.

I love Quorn but hate tofu. I guess it takes all sorts!

Sounds lovely Col, what yoghurt maker did you get?

Thank you folks for your responses. It looks like I’m on the right track. Cherrianne I feel the same way about Quorn, but love your idea with sunflower seeds. Thank you. Jackfruit is another thing I have used a couple of times but maybe too processed. The mushroom options work well for me too. Cheers.

Also, although the book has a lot of different breakfast options, it would expensive to make them all. I’ve just chosen a couple (either an omelette, or full fat yoghurt with fruit) and make sure I have the stuff in the fridge, and just alternate between them as I feel like it. People are generally used to having the same thing to breakfast every morning, so that is no stretch.

I think learning to cook with fresh ingredients is a bit of a learning curve if you’re not used it. It takes a bit of experience to learn how to use leftover fruit and veg in different ways (soups and salads are always good, just throw in what you have!) so that it both doesn’t go to waste and you don’t get bored.
Takes a while, but you’ll get the hang of it.

Hi Rach19c, I was interested in your info because my son is Type 1 and I wondered if he would benefit from this diet so he could reduce his insulin. I have been on it because I was getting high blood glucose but was not yet diabetic so a panic to get rid of my belly (I had also had a gall bladder removal and when you get photographs of your visceral fat its mighty alarming). I too have plateaued which is very frustrating. Its possibly because I am getting a bit blase and not taking so much care, or that my body is trying to hang on to the fat I have left! One of the best ways I have found for moving it on is to do exercise, so I do a 20 min intense training cd (only on level one because I am unfit) or I go for a walk/run for 20 minutes. I do it before breakfast so I force my body to use my fat reserves. I find this gets the weight loss going again. I would also say dont give up because once you get to your target weight, you will have the knowledge of how to stop it from creeping up again.

Thanks Cherianne…would you have a link to the download as I cant seem to find one please?

I can see where you are coming from mad medic, as it is much cheaper to have a ham sandwich or beans on toast instead of salmon salad or fish with vegetables. The same is true of potatoes instead of loads of veg and I know I have spent more on food since I have been on this diet but I am very lucky that i have an aldi very close to where I live. But having said all that I hope you dont feel you have to abandon the diet because I am sure in time, like me, you will find it is the best thing you can do for your health. Do keep logging onto the forums because there is lots of really good support and help. Good luck to you and your wife.

Oh sugar. It didn’t. I didn’t want to take over bills discussion.
Is it best I start my one chat?

I am a female, type 1 for all my life, now mid 40’s, on a pump for last 13 year.
I know it says this isn’t for t1, but I couldn’t see why. On the diabetic forums loads of people do low carb, helps the spikes in blood sugars. Many do fasting, 5:2′ so I thought I’d try.
I wanted rapid weight loss. I’ve been on it since the beginning of Jan, so more than 8 weeks. Although I haven’t always been strict. There’s been a couple of curry and wine nights!!!
I lost a stone. Great. But I’ve lost nothing for 3 weeks now. And I can’t work out why.

My diabetic pump a specialist nurse was well aware from the start, and is thrilled with my better blood sugars.
But I have another stone to lose, maybe a stone and a half left to lose. And if I’m not losing , why bother? I’m fed up now. No loss for 3 weeks.
Plus it gets on my nerves when I do go low, forced to drink lucozade, undoes all my hard work that day.
I went on MFP to log my calories. But I had been recently adding fats to things, thinking I needed it. Cream to soup, bacon bits to salad. 300 or 400 calories meant I was way over the 800!
I’m struggling to work out what’s gone wrong.

Hi folks, there shouldn’t be any problems including tempeh and tofu in your diet. I use both and just count them in my daily allowance. Quorn (ughh) should be fine too if you like it.
Some of the usual protein sources might be higher in carbs, but the legumes as opposed to grains, are more beneficial as they are usually low GI.
Sunflower seeds are low carb and quite high in protein too. If you heat a small fry pan and add a few teaspoons of soy sauce then throw in the sunflower seeds and cook until coated in the sauce ( only takes 1-2 mins), you have a great crunchy topping for salads, soups etc. they will store well in an airtight jar and make a good snack for when you fancy crisps or crackers or just something salty to munch on.

Did my last post register?

Bella51, i agree with Bill1954 that cauliflower mash is great – it’s tricked my head into thinking I’m eating normal mash. Mixed with butter and some grated cheese and pepper for flavour. Also peeled courgettes in strips (I don’t have a spiraliser) and then fried quickly. Enjoy your veggie experimentation!

Hi Leanne, welcome to the forum. Planning is the key to success on this diet so you’re off to a good start. Getting organised so that you always have the right food available will help you, you won’t be caught out grabbing something you shouldn’t have just because you’re hungry.
Many of us cook and freeze extra portions of our food so that there’s always something to fall back on. Making sure you take your healthy food to work, or out with you if you’re away from home at mealtimes will help.
Are you doing your own plan or following the one from the book? A browse through the recipes in the book and on this site should help you with ideas.
There’s also a thread called ‘what are you eating’ where people are posting their meals, that might inspire you a bit too.
All the best for Monday, and keep posting your successes so everyone can celebrate with you.

Hi Hetty,
You are doing well sticking to the diet in view of all your health issues. Your wayward hormones won’t be doing you any favours so well done for persevering. I can only imagine how tired you must get with that level of blood loss and a demanding job.
You seem to be drinking plenty so I’m wondering if you could be relying more on carbs to fill you up instead of fat?
Sometimes it’s worth a quick check and a little tweaking there might be enough to put you back into fat burning mode.
Make sure you are getting enough iron in your diet too to replace what you are losing. Apart from obvious sources like liver, beef and seafood, there are dark green leafy veg, sunflower seeds, nuts, beans and tofu. I read years ago that having vitamin c rich foods with the same meal helps your body to absorb iron. So a squeeze of lemon on your cooked leafy greens, or a nice big salad with tomatoes and raw red peppers should help.
I wouldn’t be worrying about not getting enough exercise if your job is physically demanding you are probably doing more than you think. If you are anaemic you’d probably get a bit puffed out and dizzy if you overdid it anyway.
Keep posting and let us know how you’re getting on. There’s usually someone who can help.

Hello everyone. I’m currently trying to get my head around this. Wrote down shopping list . Meal plan. Measurements. Hopefully I will be starting on Monday. My
Menu won’t be very exciting as it will just me me on plan and I’m kind of a plane Jane . Iv been sat here for about 30 mins trying to write out my
First weeks meal plan. All I have so far is Monday bfast. Greek yog and 13 blueberry 110 cals lol all help and ideas appreciated lol

Well done jeff now another good day today and you are well on your way! Don’t worry about a bit extra chickpea chilli, you will still be very close to the 800 🙂

Hi blueplummy, so fantastic that your dr is on board with this diet, and well done on both the weight loss and the normalising blood sugars! 🙂

Hi mosleyfan….you may have answered my stall! Post menopause issues…..ah well, guess if we keep at it the body will get the idea and give up trying to hang on to the extra! Well done on staying so strong despite no scale results. Off to try making some of those cheesy scones now, hope they are as good as yours 😀

Hi Holoso,

Like Maryr it would have been Fage full fat, tastes so indulgent! Have just bought a yog maker though and first batch cooling in fridge, used full fat milk, a little cream and Fage as the starter, a sneaky taste while still warm is looking like I may never buy yoghurt again, creamy, thick and tasty!

Interesting to see this, thanks for posting Fofi and everyone. I have just completed my first week….and while I am utterly delighted at a 7.5 lb loss it all happened in the first 4 days and has been stuck there since! Was discouraged this morning when still the same as I have been under 20 – 25g carbs daily with fats higher than protein….came back here for inspiration to keep my head down and carry on and have now got it thanks to you all! Happy Fast 800 whatever week you are in, look forward to seeing your results again soon 😃

I don’t normally feel the need to post on forums, preferring to just read the posts and take in the fab advice. However…I have to share my success after nearly 2 weeks in.
I’ve lost 2 inches off my waist and 9lbs in weight…the lightest I’ve been for nearly 8 years! I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes nearly 2 and a half years ago and have struggled to lose weight and control my B’S levels due to my lifelong carb and choccy addiction. Yes, I have struggled a little to get into the ‘zone’ but feel so happy at the moment that the weight is finally shifting and my levels are falling to within the correct range. I showed the BSD book to my GP on my last visit and she was happy for me to give it a go. Can’t wait for my next check up I May, hopefully I will have enough control to come off the Metformin.

Just want to say that if anyone has any doubts…if I can do it so can you! 😊

If in UK then look for Lancashire Farm brand (Sainsburys stock it) in 1 litre buckethe. Natural full fat (ie 3.5% fat but not greek). Flavour is so good and smooth it’s the only one I wouldn’t even want to add sugar to. Pakeeza also good taste but sharp. Both these are much cheaper than others.

Well done Bob fox, you have done fantastic. You are among hundreds of people who have done what your doctor ordered, we all do.! Although I just had pre diabetes I was lucky enough to hear about Roy Taylor research from a friend who used to practice as a nurse and it was this diet was the best thing I have ever done. My blood sugar levels are nearly always into the normal range and I will never go back my bad way of eating.again. Keep up the good work.

Yesterday (Tuesday) was my first day of BSD Med. It went very well and I stuck to my plan except for eating a bit more chickpea chili for dinner than I needed. This resulted from eating too little at lunch time as I was ravenous when I got home. I have learned something and all in all see this as a successful start. I am happy to say that the sugar and junk carbs are, so far, not calling out to me-but I want to be vigilant and narc on myself here if they do. I have today mapped out food-wise and all systems are ‘go’ (fingers crossed!)

wishing all a fantastic day
jeff

Lucia, Great news on your beginning today! I wish you the best! Isn’t the full fat yogurt the bomb! It’s gotta be yogurt the way nature intended. I like that you are planning out your meals for the day. It encourages me to do that as I find if I get the plan in my head as in: ‘this is what is going to happen’, I tend to stick with it and feel ok about it. On the flip side, if I imagine or plan to have a dessert type food, it’s really hard to not have it. My mother always said I had a one-track mind, I guess she was right. 🙂
X

Bill1954, Thank you for your support! I have read many of your posts, you have been an inspiration!

X

Hashimoto, Thank you so much! You are the best.

Yesterday was my first day BSD Med. It went very well and stuck to my plan except for eating a bit more chickpea chili for dinner than I needed. This resulted from eating too little at lunch time as I was ravenous when I got home. I have learned something and all in all see this as a successful start.

my best to all, Jeff

Frozen berries in Sainsburys basics range are much cheaper than other labels and vastly cheaper than buying fresh.
Red peppers also feature a lot. The roasted ones in a jar at Lidl are much cheaper than fresh and don’the go bad – jar lasts ages in fridge.
Perhaps if you let us know what sort of food you enjoy we can put our thinking caps on and come up with cheaper alternatives?
It would be a pity to stop now when it is clearly working for you!

Thank you, you’re all absolutely right, of course! I would really kick myself in 3 weeks if I hadn’t made a dent in my weight loss efforts now. Nat, you’re right, there’s never a perfect clear window. Good luck with your BSD for week 1!

Hi onamission once the headaches, lightheadedness etc go you will feel a million dollars and you will be thinking your friends are insane for not trying it – though they may change their minds when they see the changes in you 🙂

Yes I agree about being let down! I mentioned the study done at Newcastle Uni to my GP about 2 years ago. He basically poo-pooed it and told me I would always have diabetes and that it wouldn’t work. I’m due for an annual review in June so am hoping that I’ll have some good results to support my case!!

Thanks hashiomoto. It’s terrible! Lightheaded, dizzy, tired. On a plus note, just had beetroot falafel from the book for lunch and it was delicious. Just told friends about the diet and they think I’m insane!

I haven’t bought any special things in for this diet. I’ve adapted to what I normally use, e.g. fish, chips& peas for family but my tiny portion is minus the chips and batter!! I haven’t followed the recipes as they’re not the sort of food I’d normally eat. I’ve bought a lot more berries though, balanced out by not buying as much chocolate based stuff!! Aldi/Lidl are both a lot cheaper than the others too.

Hi onamission mine lasted for first 4 or 5 days 🙂

How long for?

Any ideas how long the headaches will
Last? This is not fun!

Hi, I am going to be travelling a bit over the next few weeks and I won’t be in control of meals as much as I would like. I am considering getting some meal replacement bars so that when others grab a sausage roll, bacon sandwich or plate of chips I will find it easier to resist.

Do you have any suggestions. One of my group has a nut allergy so I don’t want anything with nuts.

I won’t be eating that many of these and will have some normal meals each day so they don’t actually have to be proper meal replacement bars. I do need sealed products that I can leave in my bag or the glove box rather than home made things.

Some of the Atkins bars would seem to be okay, but all of them come stamped with a may contain nuts so I’d rather not.

Any suggestions?

I did, onamission, I just took paracetamol x

Inka, janet1973’s idea of mock mint julep is lovely,. Just a sprig of fresh mint or a mint teabag and slice of lime or splash of lime juice in sparkling water 🙂

Well FiFip at least you can have the cheese! I love fish cooked that way 🙂

hi all,hoping for some encouragement please . i started diet about 3 weeks ago but the weight is not falling off as i had hoped but i have lost 3 lbs and 2 inches off my waist to date. i have not been diagnosed as diabetic but due to menopause and being overweight i decided to help myself by doing the diet. i am struggling with a lack of certain hormones , weight gain, increased blood pressure and very heavy periods, so thought i would ask on here how other ladies are getting on. doctor is sending me for blood tests due to possibility of anaemia and to see gynae. i am determined to stick to the diet as i know it can only be good for me as i am about 3 stone overweight.i am drinking in excess of 2 litres of water daily. i have a physically demanding job and work from home(a farmer) but struggling to increase my exercise levels more due to the heavy blood loss i have on an almost constant basis ie 3 weeks in 4 isnt easy to live with!

Thanks bill. I must be a proper carb/sugar addict as it’s awful! Proves how much I need this eating plan I guess!

onamission
lots of folk have, it is a carb withdrawal symptom and goes away in a couple of days or so
Most just use paracetamol to help. At least it proves that you are doing things right.

Hi Mad Medic
well,the meat, poultry, fish, and veg shouldn’t be any more expensive than if you were eating the old way. Greek yoghurt and packs of frozen berries are cheap at Aldi, I think the most expensive extra I have bought was the coconut flour. Coconut oil is cheap at Aldi too
Gram flour isn’t expensive, there shouldn’t be a huge difference in your weekly budget saying as you aren’t buying bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, alcohol etc.
Your weight loss is brilliant, don’t spoil it because of the price of the food.

Help! I’m on day three and have had hideous headaches every day! I’m drinking plenty. Did anyone else have this? I feel like my brain is shrinking!

Inka how about a spritzer ? Just a drop of wine topped up with soda water