End of week 5, so far lost 2 stone 1 lb. 😀

Bill: I am so pleased to hear your news! Enjoy the Southern Comfort, you’ve earned it!

Good thinking Bill. Remind me how you did that, seem to remember strawberries and cream were involved?

*nods* which is why I keep my mouth shut Judith. x

Hashimoto! Nice to know that you think the same way and have found your food bill declining! Thanks for the support!

Lynne re your son it makes more sense in light of extra stresses x

Great news Bill !!!

Same as Gooismeid, I have lost 5 kilos in five weeks which I am absolutely thrilled with. Will have to work it out as a percentage though, which will be interesting. I see this as a way of life now not a diet and I don’t miss carbs at all. I am more preoccupied with all the full fat things I can now have and are much nicer. Another half stone to go to be within my bmi (and not just on the edge of it) and then another half stone to be back where I was in my twenties! Oh goodness, that was SUCH a long time ago!

Fabulous news Bill 🙂 XX

Thanks Lynne, everyone’s help and encouragement has kept me going and it’s so helpful to hear everyone’s stories. I’ll let you all know where I’m at on the 4 April on my return.

Thanks Bill and well done to you as well – it’s a great feeling when you reach that 8 week point.

Thanks hashimoto, I will keep you all posted; this forum has been so good at helping me on those tough days. Well done to everyone.

Bill and lynne I think we should all be quoting MLK ‘I have a dream…’
What a good idea re the book, Bill, I bet Doc mosley would let him have them at near cost for that purpose! You should contact MM’s team and pass on your idea!
I think Bill is also right that the slimming companies and food companies will use this to their advantage – freezers and chillers full of BSD ready meals etc.

Anyone else having issues with logging into this stream please? I log in, then when I go to post it says I have to log in again, but when I go back 2 pages I can post…….

Question for you lovely people please – Fruit Water makers, I have found them on this site & on the web…… What do they actually do please & are they any good ? I was thinking it might be nice to have an alternative to straight water sometimes, but don’t want to be adding fruit sugars to anything by accident.

Any help would be brilliant thank you.

Hi jeff, nice to hear you on the forums again! I take the same line as you. I will eat kale but I adore brocolli, asparagus, spinach and so many more veg that I prefer to kale.
As i am eating what I have always eaten minus gluten free bread (£3 a loaf) rice and potatoes I am finding my food shop is actually cheaper 🙂

When your clothes loosen you know you’re losing weight 🙂

Hi all, I’ve really enjoyed reading your posts and thought I would throw my tuppence worth in! Hubby and myself started the 800 almost four weeks ago. I have significantly more weight to lose than him. In fact despite a foots’ height difference when we started off I was two pounds heavier than him and as of this morning I still am! I started off at 13st 5lbs and I’m 5ft tall. He has now lost 16lbs and I have lost 15lbs. When he loses another 2lbs that will be 10% of his body weight and he will move to the 5:2. We both lost significant amounts of weight on the Dukan high protein diet and kept it off very well with the 5:2 until we just went wild and the weight came back again over about 16 months. The 5:2 is a great plan but you must create a calorie deficit to get the full benefit. Now here’s the thing, we don’t really monitor carbs. We eat a well balanced and wholesome range of foods, but although I’m great at putting low carb recipes made of anything but flour together, I can’t be bothered! If I have to seek out ingredients that can only be found in Diagon Alley I’m going to get bored and go off the rails! The secret to losing weight on this diet, and this is just what I believe, is to get a bit of exercise as well. Walking, try and do your 10000 steps, or swimming. That way your muscle tissue will eat up everything you take in, and you will lose weight. I’m not diabetic but I do have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), it plays havoc with the hormones. Also I find it difficult to “release hostages”, this was the term we used on Dukan for constipation – sorry but it is a dieting issue. Here’s what today’s menu looks like: B – one slice of Burgen soya linseed bread toasted, laughing Cow lite triangle, tea with 50ml milk. Coffee at 11am, 50ml milk. L – 100g tesco Greek style yogurt, 50g strawberries, 25g blueberries. D – Scrambled egg with cheese. I keep enough calories for a 40 cal Belgian hot chocolate, and I can still have a cup of tea later if I feel like it. I usually have calories left over. At the weekend I abandon the tea, hot chocolate etc and have 175ml of vino. Thanks for reading this and good luck!

Happy Day!

So brilliant to have this great result Bill.

We are all dancing & raising glasses to you (with water or ‘laughing gravy”)

: )

Lynne, in response to your post, I just want to say: right-on sister! Power to the people! I wish for the same sort of revolution here in the U.S.!

Judith, that’s not all of it with my son unfortunately. There’s so much going on in that family unit, but it’s not for this forum. Unfortunately it means his stress levels are through the roof, which doesn’t help. I’ve become very good at keeping my mouth shut. (Yes, Bill – I can do that if I have to 😱)

I help out with the twins, having them stay with me in some school holidays. But they live in Manchester and I’m in County Durham. When they come after Easter I’ll try feeding them the Mediterranean way. They don’t eat many sweets, but eat cereal every day, sandwiches at school, and lots of pasta, potatoes and rice.

I remember them having a kiddy meal from Subway – you should have seen them, nearly running round the walls as high as kites. Not repeated.

Not much I can do to influence their eating at home, but at my house ….. 😃

No it’s not unobtainable Lynne
We are the people and we have the ultimate power over the lot of them – voting with our feet.
A sharp loss of profits will quickly realign their thinking.
Someone should have told Mr Osbourne about this, to send a £3.60 diet book to every diabetic in the country would cost far far less than the price of drugs and treatment.

Hi Everyone:

I’ve been off posting in the forums for a week or so, but have been following everyone’s progress. I’ve been doing pretty well, not perfect, but much progress. I’ll have a weigh in on saturday and see what the scale says; I know something is happening as my clothes are loosening up!
The forums have been so helpful with information, experience, and recipes. One invaluable thing I have learned in the last week is to ‘keep it simple’. That is to prepare simple, easy meals, with the idea that as I begin to feel better and have more energy I’ll want to get in the kitchen more. Other ideas I’ve decided to incorporate are to eat only foods (on the plan) that I really like, for instance I love asparagus, but not kale so much, even though it’s supposed to be a super-food (and I’ve tried), so I will have asparagus. I have seen people write about this on the forums and have decided to adopt for myself the notion that since I will not be spending money on junk food, take out, and probably doing less restaurant eating, I will by premium ingredients. I reckon that I will still come out far ahead cost-wise. Fortunately, we have a store here called Whole Foods (some call it ‘Whole Paycheck’) that can be expensive but has excellent quality foods.

I am also very happy to say that when I got home from work last night my book had arrived! This is five days early! I am so happy to have it in hand!

best wishes to all for continued success
Jeff

Rico isn’t it lovely to drop a number in the stones column! But you have already seen that happen 3 times! Amazing! Way to go 🙂

End of week 5 – lost 5kgs on the button (a shade over 11lb in old money). That’s more than 5% of my total bodyweight! I’m sleeping well, not feeling particularly hungry, and I’ve somehow got out of the habit of mindless munching while I’m sitting at my desk. Can’t say that I’ve followed 800 calories a day slavishly, and there has been the odd time when I’ve had a glass of wine, or a roast potato, or a piece of granary toast – but my energy levels are insane! I’ve got the bike out of the shed for the first time since before Christmas, did a good 15 mile trip last weekend, and I’ve been out jogging every other lunchtime. My downfall on previous diets has always been cheese – but on the BSD it’s a positive thing to include a bit of cheese so that keeps me happy.

On a related note – have you noticed how many carb-heavy takeaway foods there are? It’s a sea of beige food out there! Pies, pasta salads, sausage rolls, chips, sandwiches, crisps – it’s really difficult to find a decent bought lunch, unless you go to Eat or Pret. Another good reason to have home-made stuff. Today I had a home-made vegetable laksa (without noodles) and it was delish.

Do the cheesecakey thing Lynne, they should love them 😀
Relax ? I’ll do that when I pop off, this weekend is a celebration 🙂

A friend of mine told me a few years ago about her son’s then partner – a GP – who said diabetics would bankrupt the NHS. My response was to put me in a locked room with him for a while and I’d sort him out!

With the post code lottery re testing supplies there is a conspiracy theory in some quarters that ‘they’ are trying to get rid of us to save money.

Well, their wish is being granted – just not how they thought. 😃

Just think – smaller profits for drug companies, the huge slimming organisations losing members (and profits), and all those manufacturers of ‘slimming’ low-fat foods and diet meals also losing profits. Imagine – food shops full of healthy food, full fat with taste rather than sugar. 😃 Cheaper to buy healthy rather than junk food! And bring back cooking lessons in schools, cooking from scratch rather than microwaving ready meals. Or am I looking for an unobtainable Utopia?

Bruno I am so glad you posted that – a few people have reached a plateau so your experience will encourage them.
Well done on your fabulous weight loss and enjoy the rest of your journey 🙂

Lynne it must be so hard for you to see your son damaging himself like that. I truly hope he will see the sense of this diet when he sees the changes in you.
The man at the coffee morning!!! He sounds much worse than my friends partner – never thought I would hear myself say that!
My asthma nurse said that it was difficult to help patients who don’t want to help themselves as well – we were talking about diabetes because of the book.
You never know, we may meet in real life one day, and boy, wouldn’t I love to be waving a placard in an audience with Doc Mosley there along with you and Bill and any others.
🙂

😃.

Now, I wonder if I can get the twins to try it? he he.

I can just picture you with a great big smile on your face. I am so happy for you all 😃 Now relax and have a great weekend. x

Hi everyone,
Good to hear how everyone’s finding the diet. Thats me at the end of week 6.
So far I’ve lost just over 2 stone (29lbs). Last Friday when I weighed myself I’d only lost 1lb, so was amazed that I lost 5lb this week👍.
For the last 7 days I’ve also cut out caffeine. Started drinking Caffine free Green Tea which was pretty vile for the first few days but now I’m beginning to like it. Tried the curry recipe with cauliflower rice last night, it was amazing.

Tell me about it.
There was I sitting feeling fairly smug with the weight and the sugar readings reducing day by day.
Then one morning – BANG a 9.9 fasting reading. It took almost a fortnight for them to stabilise again although I do get the odd high result still but I know it’s just stored sugar coming out so I stopped worrying about it.

Way to go Bill, the best news ever!

Hopefully more people will go on pre-emptive strikes against diabetes.

I do worry for my granddaughters, as both myself and their father are diabetic. They don’t eat many sweets, which is good. When they stay with me, guess what they’ll be
Eating as much as possible. He he. *looks furtively over shoulder to make sure they’re not listening*

Not much, I know. But a start.

At the minute I’m sort of alternating between laughing and crying.
When my wife rang I rushed out into the showroom from the office to take the call and got some very strange looks from the customers when I sort of screamed “Oh Nancy thank God”
This weekend is going to be a very happy one in our house 😀

Glad you stuck that on the end Lynne
To me the foremost question in their minds would be, Is it ethical to deprive the drug and weight loss companies of the blood money they’ve been rolling in for years on the back of this horrible disease

Bill, just caught up with the posts – oh I can’t tell you how happy I feel for you and your family – I’m crying myself. What a RELIEF!!! What a Friday this is turning out to be!!
I think tonight calls for big fat juicy steaks as well as a drink!!!

The shock and stress of it all will really be hitting home now that you can heave a massive sigh of relief as you have had to sit on this and act normal for your grandchildren and the whole family during so many days – so no wonder you can’t stop crying.

This day just can’t get any better! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
In fact Bill, I’m going to indulge in a little glass of something with you and toast your family when I drink. 🙂 🙂 🙂 :)Cherrieanne is going to be so pleased when Australia wakes up! 🙂

Many thanks Bill1954. it just came as bit of a shock.

YIPPPEEE!!!!! *does very happy dance*

Bill, I am so delighted for you, your daughter and the family. Hopefully it won’t be long before she is fully recovered.

I’ll raise a bottle of fizzy water (well chilled) to you all 😃

Have a great weekend.

Well if you go on a Southern bender…. have to say it is quite understandable even if not wise. Our family are off to Toby Carvery tonight (best BSD place to eat if you avoid the pots and yorkies) and I’ll certainly be having a drink tonight (1 only 😉) to celebrate virtually with you guys. So so thrilled for you all.

So glad you enjoyed it Lynne God I can’t stop smiling today
It does take a lot of chewing because of the high dietary fibre content but they are really filling aren’t they ?

Don’t often eat at lunchtime now, but made an exception today.

Have to wait in for new printer to be delivered (old one decided to print in invisible ink – clever, but not helpful) so decided to try out this recipe

Thanks Bill, used 1tbsp coconut flour as you suggested and removed them from tin straight away. Used a non-stick tin and lightly oiled it – but it still stuck 😳. Smelt wonderful. Oh, it still does 😃 – must remember to use extractor hood!

Anyway, decided to eat it with 25g each of Brie and pâté. And I couldn’t finish it. Still have half the bread and the pâté left – must incorporate it into meal later!

Be interesting to see BG results in a few hours 😃

Oh – it really is delicious 😃

pre-emptive strike against developing diabetes
I LOVE that expression
If we can get the word out about this lifestyle there will be many many more folk administering pre emptive strikes.
Go for it OP
See you on the other side of the finishing line.

Thanks hashimoto
Yes I am very pleased, just have another 6or 7stone to go but I really think I can do it on this new way of eating. This forum really helps and I love reading the messages of support and encouragement on here, just wish I had found the BSD earlier! I have even started using the gym!!!

I will, Bill.

Sometimes when I’ve mentioned the BSD, Dr Mosely and Prof Taylor to medics I’ve seen their eyes glaze over and one actually shrugged as if to say ‘so what, no idea who that is!’ Obviously don’t keep up!

I’m with you – you, Judith and me (and everyone else of here who could and wished to), not only in the audience but with placards and/or leaflets outside, making our voices heard.

Naysayers may say our evidence is only anecdotal, not scientifically proved, but those of us keeping records can show those as evidence and our results speak for themselves.

The ‘experts’ would probably say they need a long-term randomised clinical trial, with a large number of participants to see if it is beneficial and not harmful. I think my response would be to ask if it is ethical to take that line as so many diabetics are already following the BSD and showing great improvement in their blood results, as well as weight loss and other benefits. Would it be ethical to deprive other diabetics of the opportunity to improve not only their diabetes, but also their general health? Oh, I forgot – the drug companies and their profits😱.

*off to put soapbox away*

Dunno about champagne Julia
BUT
There is this litre bottle of Southern Comfort I brought back from holiday 2 years ago and never opened.
I think it may well be time to check it hasn’t went off 😉
Sod it, I just cant help doing this 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

CRIKEY, BILL! – I cried when I read that! So happy for you and your family! Wishing your daughter a speedy recovery from her lung infection.

Have a great weekend!

Susie x

Isn’t it amazing Lozza
I well remember the suffering I went through years ago trying the WW diets. I was always hungry and I could well have done without the guilty feelings I experienced when I didn’t show a weight loss in any given week.
This diet is so much better, you can do it yourself, it’s easy. and by God it works.

Hi Bill
That’s fantastic news so so pleased for you all.X

Hey and don’t go blowing the diet too much after all the good work – although I think champagne is in order at the very least 😂

Bill I don’t think I have ever been so over the moon to hear such news from someone I’ve never even met👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍

WOW!! HOW FANTASTIC!!

So glad that it’s such brilliant news Bill. The whole family must be ecstatic!
Hope she will soon be fully recovered and back in good health soon.
You guys have a wonder weekend!