Hi, I have never consumed enough fluid and the thought of 2 – 3 litres is scary!! I am never thirsty and often remind myself to drink but that is only a mouthful or so at a time. What would be the effect if I follow BSD 800 with low fluids? Better still are there any tips on how to increase my fluid?? Thank-you to all those who are posting their journey and success stories here – very inspirational.

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Hi Tracey, well done on your first week! How do you manage the fluid? I have real trouble drinking anyway never mind 2 – 3 litlres!! I wonder what the impact would be if I dont consume the water?
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Izzy, Do you have a recipe for the carrot crisps? I’m mostly worried about slicing them thin enough. Thanks.
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Hi Epspecially,
Just read your post.
I’m now over 3 months in and find this really easy, I’ve lost around 43 pounds.
You say you won’t weigh yourself, I’d suggest you should then you can see where you are. I lost 12 pounds in my first week and that really motivated me. Also lots of folk weigh themselves every day but I weigh myself once a week, that way I’m not seeing ounces lost or worse still my weigh staying the same or going up which I find it can do day to day.
This website and these forums are great, lots of good advice and help.
Like captainlynne says, stick to the 800 calories a day, you’ll find the food cravings disappear.
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Hi, Izzy,
Which Fitbit did you get? I’ve had the Fitbit ‘One’ for a few years and loved it, but I lost it last week. So gutted.
But now they have brought out some spectacular wrist watch Fitbits and I don;t know whether to get one of those or stick with the One.How are you getting on with yours?
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Happy Monday and congrats on your successful first week! I am in the office wearing work trousers that are most definitely looser than the last time I put them on a fortnight ago 😃
Last week I was strict on 800 cals mon-fri but more relaxed at the weekend, although still stuck to the Mediterranean diet, and this seems to work well with family commitments. We had a low carb picnic (kids helped themselves to my humus) and a BBQ last night where I enjoyed meat with salad but no bread or spuds. I don’t know about you, but food seems to taste better when not surrounded by bread, pasta etc! Certainly I am not feeling deprived! Roll on week 2.. -
Hello everyone
I’m thinking of starting the BSD diet, but am I got concerned about cutting out most carbs. I’ve read the book and it seems to give conflicting guidance to this subject?
Am I ok to eat certain cereals, wholegrain bread, New potatoes, wholewheat pasta etc…..
I also wondered if it’s ok to follow the 800 calories a day, for a longer period of time as I have about 10 stone to loose?
Any advice gratefully received
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Quick question guys. When counting your daily carbs are you counting all carns or just sugars? I’m eating lots of salad and veg as I need the bulk to feel full but I find veg is taking me over 50gs a day.
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For your information SkyWalker, I do not “allow a house full of fussy eaters.” They all eat very healthily, and have a varied diet full of fresh produce. They just have different tastes, that’s all.
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posted by Natalie on Given up sugar in coffee and tea!
on 16 May 2016 at 12:15 in Welcome to the BSDI took me a while but I think I’m finally there. I used to have 1 tsp of sugar in my tea, tried no sugar and would rather just no drink tea at all, tried stevia, back to sugar, reduced to half a tsp, none, up, down, a third of a tsp, none… Months of back and forth. But finally I almost enjoy it without sugar! Even though I’m eating carbs for a few days for a blood test, I haven’t gone back to sweet tea.
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Hi Wheelie
Welcome to the start of a new you.
Everyone on here has their own motivation for doing this diet and sorting out their lives.
You sound as though you have the kind of determination to make this work for you.
Dive in.And everyone else on the forums looking to start the BSD.
Give it a go.
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Lots of people prefer two larger meals. I prefer spreading it out it suits me better usually. I think with this to make it a lifetime commitment and a lifestyle change in many ways we have to let go of the numbers and just accept the losses as and when they come. That’s what I’m trying to do anyways.
On the bavk of yesterday’s experiment I had no idea how easy it was to make salsa. I doubt I’ll buy any in jars anymore!
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Hi Lynne – into the 11’s – that’s brilliant, congratulations
I convert weight in and out of KG & imperial – it gives you more milestones, you can be pleased at being in the next stone down, and the next 10kg down too!
I already ordered a spiralizer last night – one of the small pencil sharpener style ones. Space is at a real premium in my kitchen, and that’s before the advice in the book on putting everything away, so I’ll see how it goes with that one! -
Hi All
Just about to start this diet – been to the docs and bloods taken, she is a bit lery of this but is willing to go along with it.
weight is 108kg, waist = 48 inchI have been a paraplegic for 29 years, and was managing well untill 2007 when i was diagnosed type 2 diabetic, then it all went sideways. within a year i had a sore on my foot, this was sorted by adjusting the footplate that i rested my feet on, more evenly spread weight over the foot, and not localised, but then it went to the backside. large ulcer developed on the ischial area of my butt that required bedrest…….for months…..then hospitalised……14 months of that……finally surgery to close of the wound.
the surgery has been repeated another two times over the last 6 years.I am at a point that i am so tired of hospitals and if i do not get this weight off it will kill me… so motivated greatly by this book and the potential it offers me to get right and live a lighter life…
i will be posting into this forum about once a week to give my progress for those who may be interested.
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posted by ay caramba on MyFitnessPal: Goal – food + exercise = OK or not?
on 16 May 2016 at 11:17 in Fast 800Hi joosterhoff.
Just back from Indoor cycling (Spin class) which has some good HIIT training in it.
Can’t seem to register that activity on my Fitbit. Don’t know why??? It currently reads that I have burned 944 calories today so far.
MFP allows 377 calories for 45mins of this kind of class.
My pulse rate went up over 140bpm some of the time but my resting pulse is now 54bpm.
I am not super athletic but I will be playing a game of tennis this afternoon and was thinking of doing an extra class for the first time tonight. I have had no problem with my exercise regime and the 800 calories of BSD but burning 700+ in one class sounds HUGE and well out of my range!!!!!!!! Not sure if my info helps????Igorasusual…..You can also fool MFP by inputting false data on food and drink then deleting the entry. Really good to check on the effect of drinking that glass of wine. What would the results be like if I’d eaten that chocolate or if I hadn’t done that long walk???
The exercise seems to make a large difference in the weight loss predictions.Spookily I started using MFP 5 weeks ago and it has successfully predicted my current weight loss.!!!
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Thanks for that comment CaptainLynne 🙂 Maybe I was making it too complicated – will stick to the principles in the book and see how I get on. Wow, would love to not get hungry during the day, (while eating well othertimes). I used to joke that I would like one of those astronaut tablets as find it annoying looking for healthy food during a short lunchtime and then of course there’s avoiding the chocolate!! 🙂
I hope to follow in your footsteps soon!
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Fab on not worrying unduly about going slightly over the counts for cals/carbs as blips do occasionally happen. I’ve decided I want chocolate so have been busy finding horribly expensive but very high cocoa/cacao content stuff online that consists of cocoa and cocoa butter with nothing else added. The joy of it is that a tiny bit of that will work wonders and not make me want rancid commercial ‘chocolate’.
The plateau thing with the scales is just annoying. I tell myself that it is hormonal or just weight fluctuations in the day. Was being a bit obsessive with the scales the first couple of weeks.
I’m having roast chicken thigh for lunch with salad and then heck sausages with veg later on. Mostly eating twice a day at the moment.
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Hi Linda,
Yeah, some days I can relate to that poor chook, though today so farnot too bad. Have lost 1.2kg in the first 3 days. Hoora! I managed to sort some of my lunch food out yesterday then just chopped a bit of salad this morning. Its sunny and cloudy 14 c according to the ambulance. Woking with a lovely aussy today. Work till 16:00, then if not too tired a bit of study, dinner, bed.
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Hi Especially
Welcome to the family.
I’d got to the stage where everything I ate included bread. I used to panic if food wasn’t readily available when I was out.
I started the BSD on a Saturday- works better for me.
Just finished 21 weeks and it’s become a habit, a new way of life. From always being on the lookout for food, I now only eat breakfast and an evening meal – I’m not hungry inbetween.
When you read the posts you’ll see some eat three times a day, some twice, some snack, some don’t. I’d suggest cutting carbs, sticking to 800 calories, eating full fat products and drinking lots of water. I’ve been overweight for over 50 years and have to say this is the first plan I’ve found to be sustainable. And don’t worry what others say – you’re doing this for you and your health.
Hope this helps.
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posted by Gayn55 on NEEDED – 800 diet ideas to help vegetarians and vegans
on 16 May 2016 at 10:39 in Fast 800Hi I am going to start the diet this week but was worried as I am a vegetarian . Glad that I saw this forum as it has given me hope that I can do the diet . I have ordered some of the cookbooks mentioned on the thread x it does look a little overwhelming having to count every item even salad ingredients though! I have been told I am pre diabetic and my doctor says I have to get weight down – 4 stone to lose which I put on in last six years! My old doctor wanted to put me on medication even though I have not got diabetes yet! Glad I can substitute quorn for chicken and I eat Greek yoghurt daily anyway so a good start . This seems like a great forum and good advice x
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Hi, I also got the codefree machine and lots of extra strips/lancets. Got mine on ebay. They are definitely the cheapest for the replacements that I’ve found.
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posted by thepolly on Given up sugar in coffee and tea!
on 16 May 2016 at 10:20 in Welcome to the BSDI gave up sugar in tea and coffee years ago and the really cool thing (i’ve found at least) is that if you make a cup for someone else who takes sugar and then sip the wrong one, the sugary one tastes absolutely vile! Well done on giving it up, Igorasusual,
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posted by Igorasusual on MyFitnessPal: Goal – food + exercise = OK or not?
on 16 May 2016 at 10:18 in Fast 800That’s a good idea ay caramba – fooling My Fitness Pal with phantom snacks!
Will investigate, though I’m not so worried about its forecast really, I can see now that if I keep the carbs low (20gms per day is my target – although I’m making sure not to lose too many veg as I love them) the weight will go. Not so much sign on the scales yet, but I can see from my body shape that it’s moving…..next thing is what someone (sorry can’t remember who) referred to as the belly wodge. Will be very pleased to see that disappearing, as surely it must.
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Have been reading the forums for a while and finally decided to get going on 8 weeks today. I think keeping a record it will help, even once every now and again. Love all the happy weight loss, healthy-feeling or trouser-fitting stories and they are definitely going to inspire me.
I have been steadily been putting on weight for the last two years and for the first time ever around my belly and waist and I’ve had enough of it. I’m heavier than I’ve ever been and though nobody believes me when I say I’ve put on weight, I think now I am over 13 stone (the last time I weighed myself I was, so probably more now). Think I will go by how clothes fitting than weight as it would demoralise me too much to weigh myself now I think. I’ve tried a good few times to stop it but nothing has been working long enough to make a difference and I am definitely too attached to sugar even though I eat very healthy food along with the sugar. It’s funny when I look back and think of the no tummy I had for years (though never skinny!), I wonder why I didn’t appreciate it at the time and stop going on about the other not so perfect bits. So when I am finished this 8 weeks and am fitting into stuff better, I’m going to appreciate it every day. And until then I am going to appreciate all the working bits of me that I am lucky to have, and the chance to get healthier!
I am always full of good intentions on a Monday – new start of a whole new week 🙂 We’ll see in a few days time… I’m a bit scared about going from eating sugary snacks every day in work to nothing and am hoping I am not constantly grumpy. Also wary of what people will say because even though they wouldn’t be happy at 13 stone+ and heading towards possible health problems, for some reason they think it’s ok if I am and don’t like when I start saying I want to lose weight and do something about it. But have committed now and that’s it.
I have one question for the regulars: some of the dinner recipes in the book seem to use up about 3/4 of the 800 calories for the day – does that mean we are sometimes meant to skip one meal at least? How do you all get on with the gaps between meals so, and the whole day basically without anything? I thought there would be more about the fasting in the book but there wasn’t, so I’m wondering now. Other times I’ve tried to cut down on what I was eating, I failed quicker if I left big gaps between eating – like 5 hours are more. Are we meant to spread the 800 calories over the whole day or does it just not matter as eating well with the food we eat?
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posted by Igorasusual on Given up sugar in coffee and tea!
on 16 May 2016 at 10:12 in Welcome to the BSDThanks, Switzerland – that’s interesting, so your experience was 42 days. I’m now on day 21, and it’s interesting to see my hand go instinctively for the sugar bowl as routine before retreating every morning. I will let you know if it takes me 30 days, or your 42! Whichever it takes, I won’t go back to the sugar now……hooray!
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Thanks for That info just ordered Code Free on eBay
Already bought 100 lances for another make £5 for 100 which don’t do strips anymore but can mix my lance and needles and code free meter so cheapest all round
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posted by Barrynk on I think the NHS are beginning to learn……….
on 16 May 2016 at 09:54 in Welcome to the BSDMy original posts talked about seeing my GP about the diet, the GP sent me to a dietitian who agreed for me to go on the diet, but only if I saw the diabetes consultant first. As luck would have it, my first appointment with the consultant, after waiting for 12 months, was a week away.
I was most surprised to find out that the consultant was very enthusiastic about me going on the diet, she told me to halve my insulin and stop the Invokana, but to carry on with metformin and sitagliptin.
I have decided to do the diet with shakes, and my GP has prescribed me with Optifast, so today I start the diet (fingers crossed).
I am dreaming about being able to come off of all my meds completely, especially the insulin, which put all of the weight around my midriff.
Here’s looking forward to being diabetes free!
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End of first week and I am 6.5lbs down. So I’m very happy.
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posted by joosterhoff on MyFitnessPal: Goal – food + exercise = OK or not?
on 16 May 2016 at 09:34 in Fast 800Hi all,
I’m only in week 2 but also concerned about exercise calories. I do a LOT of exercise, some sessions burning 700 calories in a class. So on an intake of 800, burning 700+ before breakfast is a bit of an ask. My decision so far has been to limit the intensity of my exercise and burn only up to 500 per day while I’m in the first 8 weeks. If I really want to do a class, and burn 700+ calories, I bump up my daily allowance to 1000 to compensate.
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Yesterday when I weighed I hit 12 stone – 56 pounds and 25% of my starting body weight gone.
Today – drum roll please – another pound gone, meaning my weight now starts with an 11. Ok, 11 stone 13 pounds, but still starting with 11😃 . I can’t remember the last time I saw that. Another 3 pounds and I’m officially overweight 😃
Was asked yesterday if I was still ‘on that diet’. Errr … yes! Still about 28 pounds to lose. And this is my new way of life. After 21 weeks it most certainly has become a habit😃
For those starting out, or in the early weeks, stick with it. It gets easier and it works 😃
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Hi Trees
You’ve certainly got a lot to cope with. Like you I’ve found that I can cope much better with what life throws at me now I am in control of what I eat. I’ll be starting the new group at week 23 (I’m away at my week 24) so come and join us there in a fortnight.
Frog, the spiraliser many of us use (recommended by Hashimoto) is the Cuisique bought from Amazon. I originally bought a different one but through it away, then a hand held, pencil sharpener type which works ok. Then Hashimoto recommended the Cuisique. I checked it out, then bought it and am really happy with it. Funny how we can try to get others to do things, but resist doing them ourselves😳
I go away at the end of the month, and trying to make sure I have everything ready. Will be staying at a hotel near Heathrow the night before I fly so I can be more rested, rather than travel overnight to the airport and arrive already tired. Need to check what food available at hotel in case I need to take something with me. Breakfast included in room rate, but it’s an early start so might miss that and eat at airport (must check that out). Water bottles bought – take empty through security then fill. Arrive in Italy mid-morning. 😃
HappyLife – I’ll post as long as folk want to read them and/or find the posts helpful. 😃
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I haven’t weighed myself yet because I can’t get an accurate reading on my scales. I get a different reading wherever I put them on tiles in the bathroom! There is a waste hole in the middle of the floor so perhaps it’s because the floor slopes! Ditto the balcony. Any ideas? Thanks
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16th May 2016 – 96.3kg – 212lbs – 15st 2lbs – BMI 29.7 – 6th week of BSD800 done
Weekly loss 2.1kg – 4.6lbsLoss so far:
Since June 2014 – 44.3kg – 98lbs – 7st
Since 1st March 2016 – 27.5kg – 61lbs – 4st 5lbs
Since 4th April 2016 (beginning of BSD800) – 14.2kg – 31lbs – 2st 3lbsTarget Complete – 97kg – 214lbs – 15st 4lbs – BMI 29.9 – when I reach this it will I will finally be in the Overweight BMI range instead of Obese
Current Target – 93.8kg – 207lbs – 14st 11lbs – BMI 29 – when I reach this I will have lost 30kg since 1st March 2016
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One of the problems with daily weighing is that the weight can fluctuate from day to day so I decided to only officially recognise my weekly weigh in as my official weight loss. I’m saying this because I had a better result yesterday than today. So I am at the end of my first week and have lost 6.5lbs a result I am very happy with. I also tested my blood sugar at the start of the week and it was 127 (which is just over the diabetic line) and today it is 116 (which is back to pre-diabetic).
It was incredibly hot here yesterday, peaking at 40 degrees and I think I may not have drunk enough water to satisfy my diet needs and keep me hydrated due to the heat. So I am going to drink a lot more today as we are expecting upwards of 37 degrees followed by a “cold snap” when it goes down to 29 degrees tomorrow😉.
The treadmill people have confirmed that they will process our order today and then phone us to let us know when they will deliver it.
Onwards to week 2.
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Hi Alanhypno
I bought a SD Codefree from Home Health UK. Test strips and lancets also seemed the most reasonable.
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I once tried one of those diet ‘shakes’ where you mixed the powder with diet lemonade. After one of those I couldn’t eat for days and had to force drinks corn my throat. Never again.
When I heard about the Newcastle Diet, I investigated meal replacement shakes and found that most of them have high amounts of sugar in them. Not good for me as I was diabetic.
I have a busy life and have just finished 21 weeks on the BSD, just using real food. Keeping easily prepared foods in the fridge helps. Boiled eggs, cooked meat, salad, even cheese. When I get home too tired to cook something like that keeps me on track.
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This is the best start to a Monday morning I have had for ages….now under the 14 stone “bar”…only by a smidge but who cares lol! This morning I am 13, 13 and a quarter pound. so in total one stone and a smidge of a pound lighter in 4 weeks. I can feel the difference in certain areas and jeans too loose. Feeling positive.
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posted by ay caramba on MyFitnessPal: Goal – food + exercise = OK or not?
on 16 May 2016 at 08:40 in Fast 800Hi Bloodsugardaddy
Never thought of eating the calories back and I’m going to an Indoor cycling class this morning and playing a doubles tennis match this afternoon. I’m 63 and still a stone overweight. I’m on my 15th Week of BSD and have lost over 2 stones.
Mostly good about sticking to 800 calories a day but I have strayed a bit when I’ve been away on holiday or for special occasions.
For me personally exercising on 800 calories seems ok. Initially I struggled in intense classes near the end but think that was BS related.
Hard to advise anyone else.This is very individual but if you cut calories even a bit you will lose weight anyway.
Igorasusual I always add 300 extra pretend calories as snacks in myfitnesspal so it will calculate my potential weight loss in 5 weeks.
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I use a meal replacement shake for breakfast because it suits my lifestyle and I’ve never been a fan of breakfast. In Australia we have a brand called Optifast VLCD which is believe was designed for people to lose weight quickly prior to surgery. They are low carb/low cal and great. There is no way I could have one for dinner though, I need real food!! Good luck.
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Lol I forgot to push the notify button on this post. I meant, I try to fish drinking all my water at least 2 hours before bed. Drinking all that water at once would be suicide.
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Oh Eureka didn’t realize how blond I was becoming……must stay away from those hair dye bottles for a while.!?!?!
Your calculations are astounding but I think I understand that you are over half way to your May Marathon, so that is brilliant.
It is halfway through May and I have done 60 fitbit miles so that is over 2 marathons but that is just the machine counting all my steps.
Nearly made the 70 mile Emperor Penguin Migration again…..yay;-0 Perhaps I can get to the South Pole and back again in May????However if I separate the actual walks I’ve done I calculate I’ve done about 14 miles so far.
Anyway all good. Keep up going everyone.
BTW hope no blonds were hurt in the writing of this post……???? 😉
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posted by Athorn223 on MyFitnessPal: Goal – food + exercise = OK or not?
on 16 May 2016 at 08:09 in Fast 800Hi Bloodsugardaddy. I’m going into my third week. A little background on me – I lost 30 lbs through diet, walking uphill and weightlifting before I started this diet. I’ve lost an additional 10 lbs in two weeks on this diet. Week one I was strict at around 850 calories per day and somehow I still had the energy to walk 20-30 minutes 4 times and lost 7 lbs. Week 2 was rough for me. I struggled to stay around 930 calories and I didn’t have the energy to exercise at all and I only lost 3 lbs. I asked the same question about this diet and exercise when I first started because I just couldn’t see myself going 8 weeks or more without working out. Hopefully I’ll regain that energy this week and I’ll try to walk at least 3 times this week. I believe exercising helped get me those great results week one. If you have the energy do it! I didn’t eat those calories back and I saw great results.
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Hi
The daily mail has an article on slim women who eat junk food and keep their figure.
I wonder if they are tofi. Thin out fat inside.Would love to find out
Love Lucia
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Great results! I’m starting week 3 in the morning and I’m glad to put week 2 behind me. Keep going!!
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I see. There’s a vague logic to it, but I would have thought it would be more realistic if one continued on the diet one normally eats, low carbs, ‘normal’ carbs or high carbs.
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Ok I just had a poke around on the Net. The idea is that if you usually eat low carb then suddenly have the glucose liquid for the test, your body can’t deal with it and you are more likely to get a big spike and a “false positive” for diabetes. If you eat more carbs leading up to the test, you get a more normal result. But this belief is disputed and some now think the effect is minimal.
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Sooooooo,
How are we all this morning?
Looks like rain, means more exercise for me.
Probably go puddle bashing tonight on the way home from work.
Garden looks nice, hoping the stock give an evening perfume,
And the nasturtium leaves and flowers may end up in my salad.
Ate a lot yesterday, so just having an apple for lunch.
I don’t want to get into the habit of eating bigger meals. One offs are okay.
So lunch will be smaller.Have a lot of friends wanting to meet me for coffee, I have arranged all of that for next week. And going to the pub for a drink. So I want to be extra good this week, ready for next week.
Then it is the bank holiday. Yeeeaaaaaa!Love luciaXxx
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That is really interesting that they don’t do it in the UK. Hopefully they get rid of it here, if it’s not necessary.
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Forgot to say…
Bluberry gram pancakes for breakfast today
Scotch egg for lunch
soup for dinner
chickpeas for a nibble.
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morning everyone and yes, thankyou for the cauli pizza info! Might give it a whirl later in the week.
Yes Happy, fitbit set up is fairly easy 🙂 Really like using it! expensive pedometer really but I love it!
Today dawns the final day of week 4. The midpoint of 8 weeks. So what do my scales do today? go up an lb. They had come down yesterday grrrr!
Maybe I had more gram flour pancake than I thought, or too many tomatoes in my salsa (which was unplanned but so nice!) my calories sat at 900 last night and carbs at 74. both higher than usual, but it was a one off. I have to conduct my little experiments during the weekend as I don’t have time during the week. I’m not overly worried. I shall continue to do the BSD-thing and the weight will move when it is ready to go.
The next 7 days are all planned out foodwise (although I may make a cauli pizza substitute) so I am well organised for the week ahead. Lets hope it’s a good one… wish me luck as I head off to wake the small one!
Have a great Monday fellow Life changers 🙂