Hi Stodge – if they are the ‘uncut’ type then you are fine to use them. As Frog says – use in moderation.
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Hi CC
My head is pounding! Crying out for its sugar fix! i agree, I love the posts and find its nice to think of a group all around the world working away at this.
Hope the head improves
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Hi Patrice, B67, Science Monkey, Izzy and all!
Thank you all so much for your encouragement – I found the first day a bit tough but also quite exciting in the sense of trying new ideas and was of eating. I had quite a bad headache yesterday but found that drinking more water helped with this. Izzy have you been doing the 800 cals programme for the time you have been changing your eating? I love this forum its so inspiring and great to get the support from like minded people ๐
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Thanks, Nettle, for your considered response. South Island is a great place. Our first grandchild is a Kiwi, so we have lots of trips to N!. (Returning in August)
Hubby is the soupmeister, so soups are definitely on the menu. Also, lots of kumara as they took over the garden this year.
Just have to get back on the low cal wagon, complete with a good mineral water for special drinks instead of the Martinborough pinots!
And I love dressing like a lamb. Haven’t been able to do it for so long!!
Beetroot and feta salad tonite as the sun has come out after all the terrible storms.
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Thank you Julia.
Spoke too soon, been an up and down last few days
Monday day 107 weight 9st 11lbs (another pound lost) -19lbs
Blood sugar 8.4Tuesday day 108 weight 9st 11lbs
Blood sugar 8.8Wednesday day 109 weight 9st 11lbs
Blood sugar 8.6Thursday day 110 weight 9st 12lbs (so up slightly again)
Blood sugar 8.0Blood sugar overall is loser than it was, I have been getting more done around the house but also spending more time outside on the sun lounger while the sun shines. I have also been buying some clothes, I am normally a leggings and jumper person, but I have been wearing some very short denim shorts and short dresses and have ordered some very skinny jeans. I feel like I have a new lease of life. I am working through my wardrobe and giving away my clothes that are too big,which is both a bit sad as I like them, but liberating as I no longer need them. โบโบโบ
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posted by LifeChange on The 'no carb ploughman's' calories
on 9 Jun 2016 at 08:27 in Welcome to the BSDTry this combo:
25g Cheese
60g Ham
10g walnuts
10g chutneyThis is the closest I can get to 290 calories.
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posted by LifeChange on Question about the No Carbs Ploughmans
on 9 Jun 2016 at 08:23 in Welcome to the BSDI too was worried about the No Carb Pougmans, so did some research and it get the whole meal close to the calorie count quoted, this is what I came up with:
25g Cheese
60g ham
10g walnuts
10g chutneyI use the best tasting cheese and ham I can find. Depending upon the exact brands you use, this comes out at about 310 calories and up to 19g carbs. But I never eat all of the chutney, so I figure I’m under 300 calories…
Hope this helps.
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Lucia you will make the headlines yet withb your world domination.
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My god!
The website has told me I move too fast and to slow down!
I must be pressing the buttons too quickly.๐๐I must get support to remove this, it should be saying go faster!
Love Lucia
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Oh and I have got someone else on the band wagon in work.
Ha, today my building , tomorrow the world!
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Well, the weather doesn’t know what to do with itself.
Yesterday evening it was misty or slightly foggy.
Washing on the line was damp.
I cut the lawns again and then came in to do a bit of sewing before bedtime.
Hubby got a book from Amazon and has had his nose in it. Won’t see his face until he finishes it today!
A game of thrones book, base on a hundred years before the series.Anyone still making soup in this weather? It’s a great meal. I do one with frozen mixed veggies, some stock and one of those herb bags, they look like a tea bag. Then bring to the boil and simmer for six months.
I then freeze it.
I have put a chicken breast diced into it, but I don’t like keeping it out for 24 hours.How are things with you ?
Love luciaXxx
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Welcome to the newbies ๐
I’ve been distracted as my son got up early so haven’t time to post a proper update, I’ll be along later though.
Have a great day everyone.
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Hi everyone. I’ve just passed week 16 and thought I should log back in for more inspiration. I started 14 Feb 2016 and my journey so far has been bumpy but still relatively successful. I’m no where near as consistent as many of you. I started at 156.5kg (24.6 stones) and am now down to 137.2kg (or 21.6 stones) [I’m deliberately ignoring that the scales jumped up 3kg yesterday!!! Read more on that below]. I have a long long journey before I could be considered overweight!! My congratulations to those of you that have made that transition – you must feel amazing!
I’ve been reading some of the posts and have been heartened by the similarities in our stories. Some people say I look amazing, some pretend not to notice (or perhaps just really don’t notice) and one woman at work keeps talking about how pretty my eyes are (not sure if that’s a euphemism or if she’s only just noticed them now that they’re not so hooded). Yes – my underwear is baggy, and for some reason (can someone please explain) keeps crawling up my bum!! My lovely work clothes are getting too big, but I don’t want to get more just yet. I cannot buy clothes here in HK so I have to get them tailor made which is just too expensive if I am only going to fit them for a few months. I did buy some clothes off the internet recently – I’m looking ahead and so have ordered size 20 for Christmas!!
And in a way, that’s a little depressing as well. I have calculated that even once I have been on this diet for a year, I’ll still only be about two thirds through my journey. But, at least I’m on the journey (about a quarter of the way there) which is better that being at the beginning – so I choose to look on the bright side!!
I mentioned that my road has been a bit bumpy. I tend to stick to the diet Monday to Friday and then have a few meals where I’m a bit less strict on the weekend…… And one night I’m permitted alcohol too. I also travel a lot for work, and that can be tricky. If I come back with no weight gain then I am happy!! So far it’s worked. But where I struggle is with discipline when I eat out lately. I was celebrating with my husband for his Birthday on Monday and found myself eating crisps over cocktails (I had to ask the waiter not to refill the bowl after the third time), the bread they bring to the table in restaurants (two slices no less) and then ordering a chocolate dessert (which I justified on the basis that the book suggests that chocolate has loads of antioxidants)!!!
But I am determined to get to the goal at the end of the journey. I was inspired by CaptainLynne describing how people would no longer categorise her as fat. That would be nice. Like Lynne, I do a lot of presenting for work and yes there are those awful photos that get posted at work!!! It will be nice not to be worried about the photos. It will be nice not to be worried about bus/train/aeroplane seats (even Business Class was getting a bit tight when I was at 156kg) and not to be worried about finding a parking space where I know I can open the car door…..but the absolute best thing will be to go unnoticed…
So – that’s me. Hi everyone – I’m very pleased to be a part of the “over the 16 week line” club!
Cheers, V
PS It’s my birthday today, so I’m going to try harder to resist the bread basket and dessert at dinner tonight!
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I’ve been surprised at how much I find myself eating and still being within my boundaries. Keep experimenting with different foods and vegetables, adding seasonings etc to spice things up. Courgetti and cauliflower rice have been welcome additions for many of my meals ๐
I didn’t have time for my lunch the other day and I didn’t get hungry so it’s true you do get used to eating less and notice much less.
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Hi Marg
glad to hear that its going well
barbecued chicken – if you mean barbecued in the sense of grilled on a barbecue – no different to chicken grilled on a regular grill
Barbecued chicken as in chicken slathered in sweet and sugary barbecued sauce – best give it a miss.
If you’re asking because you have some ‘barbecues’ chicken from a supermarket, look at the label – or if no label, the supermarket may have nutrition info on its website. If the sauce is only on the on the outside, you could consider eating the inside and abandoning the skin. -
Hi GeorgiaRose
I think you answered your own questions, wine and cake. Don’t make them the bad guys, remember our thinking has to change… moderate, enjoy them, but less often. The success so far is the driver, it is possible to feel this good relativity easily. I am not diabetic but Thyroid issues kept me overweight and under powered for years, BSD has seen to that! I love it. This is week 13 for me and I am really cruising so intend to stay on a few more weeks, then do the 5:2. I am thinking I may even try a 2:5, two of anything, within reason, then 5 of the 800cal, then gradually convert to 5:2. MM does 6:1 I hear. What ever works, at least we now have options.I am in the South Island in NZ, winter is a treat, snow on the alps, brisk walks. Soup has replaced salad. I have bought two fast diet cook books, great ideas in them, all the counting done too.
Jeggings is a new word around here, not just jeggings I remind all who will hear, SIZE 12 jeggings. Who cares if I am mutton and they are designed for lamb!
Here’s to your 5 BS results returning. ๐
Australians all let us rejoice….I hold both passports.Nettle
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I have just started and am on day 3. I am finding it really good so far and apart from the first day haven’t really felt hungry. Was wondering if barbecued chicken is O.K. to use
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should be fine in moderation then!
I make up 30 grams of oats in water, soak them overnight, no sugar or sweetener, other than fresh fruit. the brand I have is 111 calories and 17 grams of carb. Its probably one of the carbiest things I have on a regular basis. -
Hello all, Did the eight weeks from 1 March with 15 kg weight loss. New jeans, leggings. Yea! Now comes the tough part. Past month weight has plateaued. Been eating low carbs, no sugar, back to one glass red wine, probably a bit too many nights. Now Blood sugar has gone up this morning to 7.7 (Aus) after weeks in the 5’s and dropping nighttime Metformin (with doctor’s approval). Must be the paleo apple cinnamon cake I made yesterday. Had a bit of honey.
How do people go with the 5:2? I think we (hubby very helpful) must start portion weighing and calorie counting again. Winter here in Aus now and fewer salads!
Others in the same boat?
I was hoping to get off of BS meds completely, but won’t go back for next blood test until my readings are down again for a while!
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Yes they are rolled and uncut like grannie used to make rather than “ready-brek”.
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well done Smith, round it up & that’s a stone!
I’ve just finished three weeks and a bit less than that – 5.5kg, but still pleased with that – fitting into trousers and jeans that I haven’t been able to wear in ages! -
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thanks Izzy – nearly there! Sorry to read that you’re not feeling great – hopefully you’ll sleep OK & feel better in the morning.
I went to a knife skills course this evening, which was fun (main learning point was to buy decent knives and keep them very sharp!)
Baristagirls – I did three things all at the same time, so not sure whether it was one of them, or a combination of the three:
1) Drastically increased my activity and exercise levels
10-11 thousand steps a day – have also started wearing trainers more, and carrying smart shoes to change into if I need to – I know I walk faster in trainers, I don’t have a fitbit, but a fairly good pedometer that calculates aerobic steps as well as ordinary ones, so trying to up the percentage of aerobic steps
2) Increased the volume of liquids I’m drinking
Previously 1-2 litres of tea, and maybe two or three glasses of water – now I’m aiming to drink at least two litres of water.
3) Taking a senna tablet when I think I need it.
there is a thread on constipation if you search for it – varying suggestions, but I know that I detest the texture of psyllium husks. Maybe I should just go back to the original version of metformin, rather than extended release one! -
Hi Cornish Claire and all other
This is my morning to start too and like you things couldn’t be more grim in the weight dept. I’d like to think I wasn’t starting BSD out of desperation but a bit of me is scared how quickly weight can pile on, particularly as one hits middle age! I only logged in to the forum four days ago and it’s a little treat to read about people’s daily lives!So best wishes for your start too CC and we will see each other along the way
B67
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posted by Igorasusual on Disabled and need help with exercise
on 8 Jun 2016 at 19:56 in Fast ExerciseI agree with Izzy that you should ideally get some advice from a qualified professional. Can your doctor recommend anyone?
Personal trainers are fine, but of course they’re not necessarily medically qualified, so a proper physiotherapist could be the best idea.It would be worth investing in a consultation, as good advice now would be worth its weight in gold.
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Science monkey, I hypothesise that the plateaux are when the visceral fat is shifting so possibly the measurements alter, but not necessarily the weight. This is what seemed to happen to me when my waist was shrinking, my ketostix told me I was burning fat, but the weight clung on.
However when the plateaux happen, you do have to KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THIS!!
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Tyvm for the advice, I approach this like an experiment and weigh everything and calculate the calories for every meal.
In fact, one of the reasons I went on the BSD is that it is grounded in science and supported by pre-clinical and clinical data. There is even a valid underlying hypothesis for why the diet works, for all those that love journal articles and metabolic pathways ๐
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thanks Patrice and Science Monkey. As for advice for the plateau… just ride it out. I’ve had two now and the weight will move again soon. Just make sure you are on top of your portions and logging everything you eat honestly, drink your fluids and try to get a few extra walks if you can ๐
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Hiya Izzy,
I hope you feel better soon, but I reckon that’s the after effects of a Maccy D! And in a very late reply to you; yes, I am of the Jockense persuasion, but I left Scotland in 2000 and since 2011, I’ve been in Belgium and I love it here ๐ You nailed it about the BSD too, in that it is as much or as little as you want on the website and you can get the mutual support you want on the web without paying a weekly fee for platitudes that don’t work for you.
Cornish Claire, welcome aboard and I hope you reach you goals. In my experience, the first week might be a bit of a stretch as you get used to the way of eating, but you can get past this and then it becomes plain sailing and you become used to doing the diet and way of eating.
I’ve dropped a bit more weight; now almost 11kg down in 5 weeks, but I seem to have hit a plateau (exactly the same weight for 5 days now……). Anyone have any suggestions?
Science monkey (ook ook)
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Hiya Izzy,
I hope you feel better soon, but I reckon that’s the after effects of a Maccy D! And in a very late reply to you; yes, I am of the Jockense persuasion, but I left Scotland in 2000 and since 2011, I’ve been in Belgium and I love it here ๐ You nailed it about the BSD too, in that it is as much or as little as you want on the website and you can get the mutual support you want on the web without paying a weekly fee for platitudes that don’t work for you.
Cornish Claire, welcome aboard and I hope you reach you goals. In my experience, the first week might be a bit of a stretch as you get used to the way of eating, but you can get past this and then it becomes plain sailing and you become used to doing the diet and way of eating.
I’ve dropped a bit more weight; now almost 11kg down in 5 weeks, but I seem to have hit a plateau (exactly the same weight for 5 days now……). Anyone have any suggestions?
Science monkey (ook ook)
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Hi Smith
Great result๐ I’m in week 24 now, on holiday in Italy. Up to the day I left on holiday I’d lost 62 pounds.
Staying with friends and visiting folk is interesting now I’m on the 800 BSD. I’ve managed to stay low carb though. And tried to be careful with portion sizes. Back home late Friday night so will post results as usual on Saturday.
Folk I’ve been eating with have asked how much I’ve lost and about what I can eat. Strange to be in Italy and not eating pasta, pizza, ice cream etc. One trattoria we ate in, the only main course I could eat was sliced pork in a cream sauce (scraped off most of the sauce). But the antipasti are great – sliced meats and cheese. Would really do me as a main course. Another trattoria, they specialised in horse meat๐ฑ I had lamb๐
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Hi izzy
You have had a rough day– snuggle up in the duvet and hope you feel better soon.
Patrice.
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there are many stories here to draw from, my own experience is that once I got started it’s been much easier than I expected and the time has flown by.
I’m in week 8 myself and many people choose to continue beyond the 8 weeks. I’ll probably do that myself but allow a day here and there where I will have more calories but still stick to lower carb foods.
My advice would be to plan your meals, use an app to count your calories and carbs, search for recipes on here and elsewhere that you might like to try. I’ve really enjoyed some of the new things I’ve tried and it keeps my food interesting.
Good Luck to you both, I’m sure you will do well.
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Hi Frog you’re doing well I hope you crack that stone soon!
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My friend has one of those reclining exercise bikes that might work for you but I don’t know if it is any easier for you to get off and on it.
You could maybe do some strength training with your arms provided that would be ok on your back but I think you might do better to get some professional advice from a trainer. If you can afford it maybe a session with a personal trainer would help, many of them work mobile and could come to your home to advise.
I’m sorry I have no better advice for you I hope you find something that works for you.
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Hi Claire I’m happy that you have enjoyed my diary. I had 4 stone to lose to begin with but it doesn’t matter how much you have to go BSD will work if you keep at it. Don’t let a week of no loss/no loss get you down and make a plan ๐
Like Patrice says up there it becomes a way of life really, and well done to Patrice for losing 4 1/2 stone! I’m jealous about the size 12 jeans! I will get there too though and so can you Claire!
Well I’ve had a funny sort of day. I was picked up at 0700 and my colleague drove us to the training that was 2 hours away. We stopped off at Macdonalds and I had an egg and bacon wrap! at 27g of carbs I knew I’d need to be careful the rest of the day. When we arrived at the training I skipped the bacon rolls and drank a few cups of tea and glugged down my water. Then at 12, we began the journey home and soon after I felt sick and we had to stop so I could get some air. I’m not usually travel sick but I had been looking at my phone so I think that caused it.
I got home about 1400, had some soup and although I felt better still not right but went out to do some work anyway, felt gradually worse and was glad to get home at 1715 but I can’t face dinner. I’m sat here with a hot drink of Almond milk, in bed watching x-files at 1800 ๐ I still feel a little sick, headachey, tired, and stomach cramping. (could that be the wrap? not sure. Maybe I’ve caught a bug)
I’ll be trying to sleep early in the hopes I feel better for work tomorrow.
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Hi Tallyhoo,
How are you doing ?I am almost three weeks in and I have lost 13.5lb so pretty happy : ) still learning – doing a meal plan for each week is crucial for me ! dot find it much of problem to be honest & enjoying the results
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Hi Bill 1954,
sorry for the late response – thanks for your advice – I am finding this forum incredibly useful !
I think I am doing pretty well = about two & half weeks in and have lost 13.5lbs waiting for it to slow down which will be sad ! still learning & hunting the recipes down.
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Hi Captainlynne – been quiet on here like to read how everyone is getting on – but doing good 13.5 lb in just over two weeks so couldn’t be happier – still learning & recipe hunting – but I am doing good thanks.
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Hi Cornish Claire
I’m on week 21 and the BSD is a way of life now — I to had a lot to loose 6 1/2 stone and already lost 4 1/2 stone and now in the overweight BMI category and just bought some size 12 jeans!!! — a bit snug at the mo but in January I was buying size 22!!!
So stick to it it’s abit hard in the first two weeks but very worth it— no food tastes as good as a pair of size 12 jeans or improved health — I know I’m shallow putting size 12 before health but it’s been along time since I’ve bought clothes happily!!
You can do it Claire.
Patrice
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Hello Flower55 ๐ Temptation is one of the most annoying things isn’t it! Crisps is my weakness also, but never really drank much alcohol. But crisps! Try and look at it from the point of view that you have to resist temptation in the supermarket too. At work there is always a basket of crisps and I have to stare at them emotionlessly each day! And you’re doing this for you. The foods on the diet are really tasty.
In a funny way, you almost get a kick out of knowing you can resist while others eat. Actually, my sister has started more healthy eating over the last few days, not the bsd, but no doubt a result of watching me and my mum do BSD!
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Started the BSD mon 6/6/16 & doing quite well. My starting weight was 15st 9.5lbs & 8.1mmol/l & today 8/6 it’s 15st 4.5lbs & 4.8mmol/l so really happy ๐ I live with my partner & father-in-law & the latter has a really sweet tooth so there’s sweets choc biscuits & cake around ๐ฏ Also crisps which is my total weakness. It would be so much easier if I lived on my own as there wld be no temptation. How does anyone else cope with this when you have other members of family eating lovely but naughty food ๐ Also missing my wine/rum & coke ๐ท๐ธ
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Try the indian popadoms – you can get a pack of 50 from tesco, ocado etc. Just microwave for 30sec. Made from lentil flour but really satisfy that need for crunch.
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posted by Julia18togo on Starting the journey 21/02/2016
on 8 Jun 2016 at 14:33 in Welcome to the BSDSue1234 this is brilliant news! You have done so well to keep at it through the tough times, I really hope that this is the home straight!
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posted by Baristagirls on How Are My Fellow New Starters Doing?
on 8 Jun 2016 at 14:20 in Starting the BSDHello Butterlover, thanks for the advice, since this morning I have been having revelations that it is probably candida die-off as I have/had candida very badly and have probably shocked it with this diet. I am going to try cocunut oil to see if this helps and if anyone else has advice or experience I’d be interested to hear. Still rather puzzled about the weight gain though.
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Hello Frog, I’d love some advice on how you cracked the plateau?
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posted by Butterlover on How Are My Fellow New Starters Doing?
on 8 Jun 2016 at 14:11 in Starting the BSDHi GrannyR .I was measuring the meat portion at about the size of the palm of my hand.When I got the scales I found that two very small lamb chops were 200 calories and I usually eat at least 3.So now I’m more conscious to weigh and measure. I’m not following the recipes in the book exactly,rather using them as a guide.But I also found that I was underestimating portions for fish.That’s presuming the scale is calculating correctly.Im enjoying trying to eat things which are part of the famly meals just missing the carbs add extra protein and Veggies
Hi Baristagirls.I hope you are feeling better, If not you might want to see your doctor,its possible that your illness is not related to the diet and you have something else wrong.cheers to all -
posted by muriel66 on How Are My Fellow New Starters Doing?
on 8 Jun 2016 at 13:42 in Starting the BSDHi everyone … Into week 2 and going ok … It’s so rewarding seeing the loss daily . it’s going to be worth it …
Just out of curiosity , on this thread people are saying they are not losing it quick enough .. Just a thought if you don’t have much to lose will it take longer like regular dieting .. That last stubborn kgs/lbs are harder ??