Good on you Lucky, that lady pound will be gone again in no time. (love it Janey)

So delighted it’s Friday. Had breakfast of loads of green leaves, blue cheese and slice of pear and few walnuts. Was really nice but hungry again now ;-( Nothing beats eggs, I don’t know why I try to be interesting.

Kind of craving crumble at the moment, I wonder what that’s about. Not exactly roasting here these days, maybe I think it’s winter. I’ve tried making a healthy version of it before but it still too many calories. Maybe I’ll have some MEAT later! That should help I hope

Sorry but you can’t make a post like this then say you won’t respond to other posters in the thread.
The fact is, the BSD is still really in it’s infancy but with some outstanding results, me included.
All evidence now points to the fact that simple carbohydrates and sugar cause T2D. The experiences of many people who have followed this plan is that they can, and have, managed to get their blood sugar readings down to normal levels.
Now if you want to call that reversed, under control, or a host of other names, it’s just semantics. The test strips don’t lie, but, in my honest opinion, if you then start eating the things that caused the diabetes in the first place then it is going to come back.
In a way it’s like alcoholism, if a sufferer does AA and stops drinking, no matter for how long, they still class themselves as an alcoholic, regardless of whether they start drinking again.
Everyone who has read the book or the forums knows now what caused the diabetes.
If you manage to get your sugar into the normal range by cutting out the bad stuff and then start eating it again, that is your choice and any reappearance of the diabetes will be by your own actions. Play with fire and you get burned.
Personally I class myself as a diet controlled diabetic and I will never call myself reversed, I have finally taken control of my disease and it’s up to me to keep that up, it is not the responsibility of the doctor, the nurse, Michael Mosely or anyone else, it’s all down to me.

Nah, apart from the bad curry, it was a great day!

Now I’m getting hungry. Is it too late for breakfast? Is it too early for farty toastie?

Bloody hell!!!! That’s awful!

Thanks for the posts.
It seems to me to be becoming increasingly likely that the BSD is just a method of managing blood sugars rather than ‘reversing’ or curing diabetes.
I will try to arrange for a glucose test to be undertaken after the 8 weeks to see whether I am no longer diabetic and will post the results at that time.
HypoGal Why would an 8 week 800 calorie diet not balance blood sugar levels regardless of whether Dr Mosley mentions it in his book or not? The question I am posing is will the BSD cure diabetes – see my original post. None of the replies above appear to suggest that it is likely to permanently fix diabetes which seems to run contrary to the thrust of the book.
You will have to forgive me but I do not intend to address any further posts as I can see that this could rapidly become both time consuming and unproductive.

Mais oui Californiagirl, je suis Charlie Hebdo et Paris et Nice. C’est terrible…

Other sandwich toaster brands are available but yes!!! Toasted fart bread is on the agenda!

I have to confess that when I switch on the PC in the mornings, as soon as I’ve logged into our company platform, my next port of call is this thread to catch up with the BSD gang!!

Not sure about that recipe as I don’t like sherry and not overly keen on prawns( original husband of many decades ago made a prawn curry and then told me he was leaving me – its a mental block!)

Morning Janey! Eeeeeh a thread milestone! Exciting! Lady pound, is another for the FAQ/Glossary, methinks! Too funny. Hubby is asking is it his time of the month too, because he’s put on a pound as well?

I saw something nice last night in an email newsletter http://blog.jamesvillas.co.uk/my-holiday-dish-prawns-with-chorizo-sherry/?utm_content=main+body&utm_source=email+UK&utm_medium=jvh&utm_campaign=140716

I’d imagine without the bread it would be ok? Not sure on the sherry though, any ideas? Suppose red wine would work there as well.

Not only do you do your job, and your housework, but you now have the added distraction of this thread… 😛

Are you going to Breville the sarnie?

Sounds awesome Timmy congrats on the contract and the weightloss!

Today is Friday!
I just had an awesome breakfast shake
I’ve just ordered some more things to paint, and I think the parcel waiting at the post office is my sewing machine pedal 🙂

Hi LynnPollen

Tomorrow I’ll have finished 30 weeks on the BSD 800 calories, low carb.

When I started on 19th December my HbA1c was 9.6, I April it was 5.5 – in the normal range.

Still a little weight to lose to get me to my healthy BMI, although I have already lost 75 pounds, so I’ll be staying on the BSD 800 calories until then. After that my aim is to eat low carb Mediterranean style, making slight adjustments until I discover how to maintain my reduced weight.

Hi bigP
Do whatever is comfortable for you.
Keep on rocking 🙂

Hi HoneyBeeMee

I think looking at the carbs and calories of food you might eat when you’re away may just help. Even if it’s only to help you avoid the really bad stuff.

At the end of the day we still have to have a life! Enjoy!

Morning campers… this is post 977! We will be through the 1k mark before the day is out!

Lucky, come away from those scales, they’re still recovering from last month’s repairs. You know that is a ‘lady pound’ and will come off again in the next 48 hours 😉 Tokyo – your tea sounds lovely.. keep the hubby out of the kitchen!!! I want to see how those pizza breads turn out Lucky!

I am working from home today which is nice in some ways (don’t have to get dressed / cats keep my company and sit on the laptop to keep warm / I can wander about thinking of Paleo things to cook), but also bad because not only do I do my job I also end up changing beds/hoovering/cleaning.. and checking the cupboards for things to eat. Fortunately the latter is less of an issue nowadays (I can’t even be bothered to have brekkie so far this morning – unheard of pre BSD!) but I do object to being Cinderella as well as career girl on the same day 🙁

Fart bread sandwich for lunch…let the experiment continue!

no how very dare you use the “f” word tonights tea chicken with a greek twist !! ( recipe i saw on sunday brunch!!) afraid i am craving something sweet but cant find anything i like the look of !!
hooe you feel ok hugs !

Thanks HappyLife 😃

Mmm … Refried beans! And salmon tortillas! Sounds yummy 😃

Went for blood test yesterday. Nurse hadn’t seen me for several months & was amazed at my weight loss. Asked me how I’d done it, so told her all about the BSD – she’s going to get the book😃 Yes, she needs to lose weight.

I told her that I’d given the diabetes nurse a copy at the beginning of the year and she was really surprised because the diabetes nurse has never mentioned the BSD. Says it all really!

I saw the diabetes nurse at a funeral on Tuesday and see her professionally next week for test results. See what she has to say then!

Talking about men cooking, my hubby doesn’t half make a lovely ‘meyt and prater pie’ Tokyo. It’s his signature dish… ok, it’s his only dish. When I tell the kids that their dad is cooking, the reaction is ‘Oh great. Pie then.’ Lol.

Yeah I’m ok, I know what it is anyway, and it will remedy itself in a couple of days. No hissy fits, no RADA moments, I promise you 😉

I’m wondering what the easiest thing to make today would be. Devil me is on my left shoulder whispering ‘Kebab’ into my ear lol. This is what I’m thinking about, doesn’t look too taxing, think it was Janey who posted it a couple of days ago http://beautyandthefoodie.com/grain-free-stuffed-pizza-bread/ I don’t need to bake anything sweet yet as I have scones and muffins in my freezer and we’re just not wanting them at the moment, even the healthy ones. What a difference 5 weeks makes! Have a feeling I’m going to end up in a ball on my cuddle chair with a hot water bottle and a fleecy blankie later so I’m going to push on as much as I can now. Keep us updated as to what you’re making Tokyo, what’s for tea tonight for you guys? Fritatta??? 😛

Hi Everyone,

After some pondering yesterday I’ve decided to increase my calorie intake on workout days as suggested by Timmy and Californiagirl, but will do so slowly. I just had a work out this morning and added some boiled egg and spinach to my post workout breakfast, adding a “massive” 103kcals to my daily intake.

Again, thanks to everyone for their advice, and if anyone else can shed some light or offer some knowledge, it would be much appreciated.

morning
ignore those pesky scales!!!! i couldnt weigh every day it would be too traumatic!!
trying to find something to bake today but so far nothing is tickling my fancy – ooh er mrs !!!

Thankyou!

Morning, my little chickpea munchers! How are we all today? I’m a pound up today, in a re-run of this time four weeks ago *nods knowingly* but now that I’m ‘old hat’ at all this, I am not going to go cray-cray about it, I am going to see what I am on the scale tomorrow, accept it, switch the scale to kilos, and take my measurements. Ready to press on for another week.

According to my meal planner, I’m making the pizza loaf thing for tea. We’ll see.

Hi Leanne

Think you have done brilliantly to reduce your BS results so much. My results a couple of months ago in March were 7.2% and are now within the normal range so perhaps the weight thing does make a huge difference.
Even if we haven’t reversed our Diabetes diagnosis we have made a massive difference to our health and our future.

Continued good luck.

OOh Happy well done for managing to cope with those two weeks, hopefully now your body is settled without the medication you will continue to lose more now. Hopefully you will get some nice bargains in the sale 🙂

Photo shoot will be great – You will really see the difference in your pictures I bet!

Now then today is Friday – mid week weigh in day. I’ve lost 1.5lb’s, so I’m 11st 1.5! Only 1.5 to get to my next target!
I’m excited!

I’ve had to move my wedding and engagement rings permanently to my middle finger for fear of losing them. I’ve moved them back and forth for a while as my fingers change – they shrink when colder, swell when warmer. Now though my ring finger is simply too lean for my rings and I don’t want to lose them. I didn’t know I had fat fingers lol.

Not sure what food will bring yet for lunch, but I’m going to make steak pie for the family later. I’ll have the filling and I was thinking about trying mashed butterbeans (inspired by a recipe here)

I’m currently sipping a breakfast shake 🙂 it’s a bit of a treat though as it works out at 207 calories and 20g carbs but it’s lush! 1/2 cup blueberries, 1/4 small banana, greek yog, almond milk, vanilla extract, sweetner. Yum. It is so nice.

I may choose a deliberately extra low carb lunch!

My son has announced he wants to go to a stonecircle, so I guess that may be my plan for later, it’s about time I added more stuff to my phenomenal friday blog, as well as my dragonfly dreamseeker one.

For now I’ve finished my shake so I’m off to make a herbal tea and amuse my son.

Hi Lucia

If it makes you feel any happier. My weight has also stayed the same for over 2 weeks!!!!!!;-(
We are not a great advert for our exercise regimes atm are we!!!!????!!!

Oh… and we need coverts out there.

OH said ..oh its really good …you are making muscle…and I suppose he’s right as usual!?
Body converting that flabby fat on my tummy….yay 🙂

Keep happy and hopscotch 🙂

Hi LynnPollen
No idea if I have reversed my diabetes or not but can tell you my own personal facts and figures which say something!
Been on the diet for 24 weeks …with the odd blip.
Diagnosed Type 2 diabetic with an HBA1c result of 9.6% on 1st Feb. Prescribed 3 X 500mg Metformin a day.
Have lost around 3 stone in weight and my recent HBA1c came back as 5.5% which is in the normal range.
Have reduced the Metformin to 1 tablet a day but think I should probably stop altogether to test the effect.
Fearful of where to go next re the diet when I reach my healthy BMI….should be soon.
Terrified that if I add even a little bit to my calorie/carb count my weight and BS levels will escalate extremely quickly.
5:2 or Mediterranean? Still undecided about where to next….

Hi gang,
Feeling fed up as my weight has stayed the same for two, nearly three weeks.
So, shall I eat chocolate, takeaways, crisps, fizzy pop.
Or
Shall I suck it up, get a grip and say…… pooh happens in life .
Gym tonight,
Just hit 5000 steps before work.

May be these scales will go the same as the old ones…. Out the bathroom window!

Yup, it’s happening to happy old me.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

JanieB I feel your pain! 11lbs is fab though keep it up and I hope your headaches pass soon

Well done Verano that’s amazing will power! I’m not sure I could be that good – I’m trying to avoid any social settings for my first 2 weeks. Me and my OH are going away next weekend – I’m not sure how I’m going to plan that food wise yet.. Oh how I miss red wine

it’s taken me 12 weeks to lose 23lb’s, so my average isn’t even 2/week. I’ve only lost over 3lb’s in the first week, last week I only lost 0.5.

But gradually, the weight is moving, so I’ve taken this on as a lifestyle change. I’m going to continue even though it is slower than I’d like.

Current Day 15/07/16

Week 1
Day 5

BMI: 29
Weight: 17 Stone 13 Pound (114Kg)

Hi , I’m on week 19 and my HBA1C last month was 6.3 – down from 7.4 last year. Although my GP has only halved my Metformin he was amazed with all the other blood results this time after following BSD. I was actually a bit disappointed that I still remain for the time being on medication but hopefully after another test in January things may look even better. Incidentally I’ve been type 2 for 5 years and my fasting bloods on diagnosis were 15. Im still about a stone overweight so am continuing in the hope that losing more weight will push my system back into reverse mode a bit more.

hi Ruth – and thank you
yes I guess 3.5 pound is good – but I think that has only happened twice in these 10 weeks
the first week, and the one where I was away busy all the time
sadly I am just not that active at home
and this week seems to be showing I have put weight back on – which considering I have stuck rigidly to my low carb, no sugar rules all week is pretty depressing
but for every day I can do this, I will

Hi HoneyBee
Really glad to hear you are feeling better. So much for saying I hadn’t got it this time – yesterday (day 4) and this morning I have the famous headache too 😩 But I know, like yours it will pass and hopefully over the weekend I will get the energy surge. I have loads to lose but at least have the satisfaction of getting 11lbs of so far which is some compensation for feeling wiped out. Good luck everyone. Just had a coffee to try and get me moving but not worked so far …..

Just back from a dietician, who my GP referred me too. I informed her about my new regime. She fully endorsed it and said it was a good choice. 🙂

Well, it’s time. I’ve finally committed to getting my mojo back. That includes losing up to 15 kilos (all of which I gained in the last 5 years), getting back into regular moving, and treating myself much more kindly.

As luck would have it next week I’m away for a fully catered work conference plus my sister is arriving for the weekend. So, my plan is to use this week to really focus on getting my 10,000 steps each day, restart my morning and evening meditation practice, and plan out my menus and shopping lists so I can start on 800 cals the following week.

The stories and lessons learned on here are amazing, and I hope to proudly be sharing my success story at the end of 9 weeks!

RemyGrace

Hi Lynn,
I really thought of your words about cutting out the fruit because the carbs weren’t worth it the last couple of days because I cut out the fruit and added in a third a cup of refried beans and two corn tortillas and what a difference it made in the food I can eat and the variety I have during each day! I love it and tonight we had 2 salmon tacos which were delicious and I’m still well under my 50 carbs for the day and under my calories!
Just wanted to let you know that your words linger on and help me as I move forward and I really appreciate you!
Wishing you the best always!

Wow Izzy, you are a great shopper! Tomorrow I am going to buy some new clothes because there’s a 50% off sale of all the clearance summer items at a store I shop at so I can get my smaller sizes but not spend too much – I doubt they have a great deal like you got on your bras!
It’s been a rough two weeks for me without the scale really moving much but today I finally way less than I did two weeks ago, yeah, yippee! So I am finally really moving down and off on my blood pressure meds! It literally took two weeks for my body to adjust to coming off the meds.
I’m going to Vancouver, Canada at the end of the month for three days I need to get a new photo shoot done for my website because my clients are telling me I don’t look like the person on the website anymore, ha ha! And then I’m going home to Hawaii in September for two weeks so to be fun to see my old friends that I haven’t seen since April because they will be shocked I’ve lost so many inches.
Hope your days off are fun!

This of course relates particularly to Diabetes Type II, which experts have always agreed can be reversed by proper diet, and now there is more and more proof that it is directly related to weight gain, especially fat that is carried around the waist and surrounds the internal organs (visceral fat).

So, it appears that weight loss, which ever way you choose to lose it, is fundamental to overcoming Type II.

My problem is that I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia, but not diabetes. However in recent years, my weight gain has rocketed and waist line has bulged, and I know this is a big warning sign that I may get Type II in the future. I also appear to have severe insulin resistance and until I tried this diet have not had any success in losing weight.

The low-carb low-calorie diet obviously is the best and fastest way to lose weight, but after nearly a month on the BSD (I have lost 3 Kilos and 1.5 inches from my waist), I am still having severe hypoglycaemia symptoms. However, I have been reassured by others that this diet works for this as well. Here’s hoping !

Jan, such great weight loss, and you are so inspiring. Keep it up. I had my BP taken today and the top level has gone down 20 points in less than 3 weeks – I am ecstatic- want to get off all meds (except perhaps the baby aspirin) I sure hope you do not have SLE. I have several friends with it and it is horrible.

Don’t worry about the euhporia. It is a good thing

It is cold and wet in beautiful Queensland so I hope it is sunny in Kent
Ruth

I found the BSD after watching Dr Mosley’s BBC program “Trust Me I Am a Doctor”, where, from memory, it was discovered that patients who had sudden and dramatic weight loss (such as fat removal operations) were also able to reverse their diabetes. This was a big surprise to some surgeons and a big breakthrough for diabetes management.

That is why, Dr Mosley advocates a rapid 8 week program to lose weight as quickly as possible to balance blood sugars. I am pretty sure that there is reference to this in the beginning of the BSD book as well.

Did you read/see that Lynn Pollen? Maybe that might help answer your queries.

Thank you Lyn. I thought I was the only one questioning the reversal part. After having completed my 8 weeks and waiting for my official test to come back, at this s point I would argue about the word reversal.

You cannot go back to being ‘normal’, however if you move to the Mediterranean diet, i.e. Still ve y low on carbs I believe it can be managed, so that you can avoid medications and all of the horrible symptoms and effects of diabetes.

I’d love to hear how others are going. Many seem to be fast 800ing for much longer than the 8 weeks.

Nearly a week and lost another kilo (3 kilos since I started, which is nearly 7lbs) and 1.5 inches from my waist, but side effects are still really bad. This morning woke up with both arms and both legs feeling numb with pins and needles, from the elbows and knees down respectively. Its still there, hours later.

Very dizzy with lots of shooting pains (neuralgia??), especially at night. Don’t know what’s going on with my body? It seems that it is directly related to weight loss. That is, days when I lose weight I feel worse.

Maybe my insulin resistance is very advanced and taking longer to adjust?? If I just look at a carb (starchy or sweet carbs – vegetables are OK), I put on weight. Total carb intolerance.

I will keep going but may have to increase the amount of food (protein and fat) I am eating?? I am drinking a lot – 2 to 3 litres a day.

Yesterday, I went for a long walk and felt good until about 3pm. But now the numbness in my feet and arms is very disconcerting. Also the ringing in my ears is nearly deafening.

Je suis Charlie Hebdo

Perhaps you can be the guinea pig!

Hi Joan

Sometime back I invested in a wrist gizmo that plotted just about everything you could think of, even told me if I had slept well. I nearly knocked myself out doing 10k steps a day and lost no weight. THIS IS BEFORE THE REVELATION OF THE BSD of course. After a few months the online data programme played up once too often so I returned it and received cash back.

Now I am using a simple Omron pedometer, on all day for the general walk we do in the course of a day and I use an additional map my walk – FREE app – downloaded to my phone for the official walk everyday. It calulates distance and time and calories used.
I get a little competitive with the voice on that app when she tells me how fast the previous distance of 1km was. Of course I am in competition with myself but she gets the blame! She’s fondly known as the walking witch around here. She gets results and I have now decided to try an official competition 10km walk in November, she and I are in training g.🏃🏃🏃
N.

Thanks for the reply.
There appears to be a misunderstanding. In the case of the BSD loss of weight is caused by restricted eating regardless of whether prompted by restricted carbohydrate or calories which in that case is only 800 calories per day for an eight week period. That is not in question. The question posed is whether the diabetes is actually likely to be cured as suggested in Dr Mosley’s book and not just the blood sugar readings for the length of time that food restriction is enforced.
The underlying principle in the BSD book is that the visceral fat will be drained from the liver and pancreas by the diet and that after the eight week period and 10 to 15 percent of weight loss the pancreas will function properly again producing insulin in quantities that will return blood sugars to normal and the diabetes will actually be ‘cured’ provided that the general loss of weight is maintained.
The above would mean that one could eat normally i.e. neither over or under eating the usual 2500 calories or whatever it takes to maintain stable weight and not just have to eat low carbohydrate foods or severely restricted portions at 800 calories per day. My concern is that if this is not the case eating non low glycaemic index foods for example white bread, rice, pasta or chips etc in previous quantities would continue to have significant adverse effects on the blood sugars and possibly, if the diabetes was not cured, on health even at that reduced weight.
The question posed still needs to be addressed.

Dear keeptrying

You do realise how fabulous a loss of 3.5 lbs in a week is do you? Apart from my first week on this or any diet – and a water fast once! – I have never lost that much in a week. I am in week 3 now and astonished at my loss even tho’ it is not nearly as dramatic as some. SunnyB I am going to be ecstatic when I get to a sone

As someone on the forums remarked we are now probably eating like a thin person.
ps I wore a skirt last night I have not worn for years – tight yes – but it did up

Onwards and downwards
Ruth

Lidl’s 29p veg this week are – Swede (Janey, so you can microwave one to see!) Red Onions, Red Peppers and Iceberg Lettuce.

And on that note I am off to bed. Don’t want a rerun of this morning, do I? Night night all, see you tomorrow, where the sun will shine and pants will fall off us and alternative flour bakes will amaze us 😀

Can I sell my cycle and gym for your yoga and tap dance?
Mine is for me alone, yours is in a gang.
Love Lucia
Xxxx

Don’t feel guilty about it! You’ve done so well so far, you’ve really embraced the healthy eating – more than I have! It’s done now. The way I look at little cheats is you may as well enjoy it if you’re going to have it 🙂 Tomorrow is another (biscuit free) day 🙂

Right, I will look at that. If/when I ever get control of the television handset…