yes the bookthief has been around a while. I don’t normally enjoy books set in wartimes but the perspective it was written from and the story was a real surprise to me I loved it. I’ve read it twice. The movie is rubbish tho…

If you are interested in creativity Try Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magic. The same author as eat pray love. I never liked eat pray love and never finished the book, but I’ve read Big Magic twice.

I enjoyed Girl on The train as well.

I loved Stephen Kings The Green Mile – I expected it to be a heavy read but it was very easy to read and the movie was reasonably close to the book.

Room- I forget the author but an interesting tale of a girl abducted and held prisoner for years in one room.

The Chimp Paradox – an easy to read book about why people behave in certain ways. Not a novel but a book I’ve enjoyed nonetheless.

Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman, an odd but interesting tale about a world that exists underneath London that no one sees.

A morning bush walk. Enjoy the cycling, gym, yoga and tap class.

No, I’m still here Tokyo 🙂 I read a few pages and then I check my email 🙂

Awwwwwww that’s sweet lol. But I don’t really mind, there will be another milestone. Imagine if there’s a really good conversation going on and I’m asleep or shopping or cleaning and everyone would have to be in limbo until I showed my face 🙂 I may have started the thread but you’re all equals on the journey and in creating the laughter and friendship 🙂

am here and now your gone lucky always the way !! i am impressed with how many sayings we have conbled together !! a feast of them !!
i have given the 1000th post sime thought !! and i am nominating lucky to write it she started this whole escapade on this thread only fitting shes takes the 1000th !!!! and i know you lucky you will make it a good one !!!!

Well, am I glad you two showed up! I was just about to go and retrieve the ‘Slippers of Sulkiness’.

I haven’t heard of yours Eps, but I think I read yours Izzy (Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii back 🙂 ), is it a few years old now, set in WW2?

I’m sat with water. I had a bar of mousse chocolate just. I reorganised kitchen cupboard. It looks like the kitchen cupboard of people I would try to avoid barely two months ago lol. Flaxseed… coconut flour… chickpea flour… sesame seeds… pumpkin seeds.

I’m finishing off a self-help type book that I hadn’t quite got to the end of. Next I think I’m going to go forrrrrrrrrrrrr…. Between You and Me or Bone by Bone. Or I might read Gretchen Rubin’s Better than Before, I liked her last two books. Ooooh just found ‘Goddesses Never Age’ too. Stop me buying books!

Awwww is the cat on a mad one, Eps? Bless 🙂

If I remember correctly there was a lady here who went 5 weeks without losing so there is still hope! Have you been taking body measurements?

courgettes and green stuff tend to be lower calorie than other veg like onions and peppers. It’s still ok to use a lot though. You certainly get a lot more within calories and carbs with these than potato!

My fitbit app tells me the following to give you some comparison.

1 serving iceberg lettuce 10 calories, 1.3g carbs
1 red pepper 31 calories and 7.1g carbs
1 medium courgette 31 calories, 6.5g carbs
1 medium onion 46 calories, 11.1g carbs

When I use courgetti with bolognaise I use a whole courgette. I will often stuff a whole pepper or courgette too. I use onions a lot as I love them but as their carbs are a bit higher I typically would use half an onion.

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

lol at spinach fetish!

Have you read The Book Thief?

Hee heee was at cinema, kind of funny, called Maggies plan.

Did you find a new book? Hmmm my next one to read is called All the light we cannot see – haven’t started yet but looks good?

Hungry but just having cup of herbal tea😳😂 Have to play with the cat, he’s chasing up and down the corridor pretending to see ghosts so I think that means he’s been bored all day, there was nobody home.

Hey figment, just google low carb recipes and you will find heaps of ideas 🙂

Sounds like you guys are doing great on the plan well done!

here are some of my favourite websites I’ve taken ideas from… Many suggested to me by other members here.

http://www.ditchthecarbs.com/recipes/
http://allrecipes.co.uk/?o_is=TopNav_Logo
https://elanaspantry.com/
http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/

3 hours and 16 minutes later, Lucky is sobbing. “Where IS everyone?” she wept.

change to tonights menu, inspired by you guys and your posts I’m making fajitas with lettuce wraps 🙂 the chicken is cooking now.

I’m glad it is Thursday and the end of my working week, I’ve been late a lot this week which was ok as husband was here to collect our son but still it’s been a busy week. I think I might just chill tonight, my husband is working late for the next two nights so I could be in my loft then 🙂 I have many ideas. I may try to write a little bit tonight.

In other unrelated news I forgot I bought 4 bra’s the other day all of them for only £9. not each but all in! They were in the sales rack at Asda when I went in for a look at something else. They aren’t colours/designs I would have paid full price for, but they will be fine to wear for the moment at that price! I know I will go down at least one more size possibly more so I don’t want to spend a lot of cash on them. Years ago when I was a healthy weight I was a tiny but curvy 32D, I’m wearing 36’s just now. I guess we will see what happens in a few months!

well I best go eat!

Hi honeybee
Delighted for you, keep up the excellent work
Regards
Ajn😊

I’m so pleased to say my constant headache has gone😊 Eggs for breakfast are my favourite new breakfast food (I always skipped it before and snacked on crisps and chocolate at 10am) scrambled with smoked salmon or poached or an omelette with mushrooms and tomatoes keep me going well until lunch. I couldn’t resist stepping on the scales this morning after only 3 days -5lbs!! Amazing. It has motivated me so much.. Early days but it’s going great!

Hi figment
All sounds yummy, we will all come to dinner tomorrow. Hehe going well huh, are you enjoying it. Seeing an instructor, wow ho of to boot camp with you then. Bril.
Love Jan 🍅🍅🍅

Hi to all
Getting some great tips from you thanks.
My soup turned out really nice

3oz brown lentils dried ones
2.5 oz chopped onions
I diced carrot
1oz of chorizo
1 clove of garlic
1oz cooked chicken
I used some stock I made from boiled chicken bones and broccoli
1tesp virgin olive oil
I worked it out to serve 2 people 443. Calories so 221 calls per serving
Struggling to work out the carbs but don’t think over the top

For dinner we had shepherds pie with Cali mash an adaption of the forum recipe. That was stunning
Hubby lowered the amounts to make enough for 3 so we shared the last portion for breakfast this morning.

I spent all afternoon potting painting and planting so hubby made butternut and cashew nut soup really loved that . He messed up on the amounts and we had over our lunch calorie allowance so had to make do with no carb plough mans for dinner .

Not even started excersizing yet , but I am seeing an instructor tomorrow see what I can do .
Really wish there was a fast 800 1001 recipe book to buy.

I can’t abide yoghurt and am allergic to coconuts so it rules out a lot of nice recipes.
Heck that’s the door
Bbl

I am not a doctor however I am an attorney and it seems to me they are the same thing — if the low calorie diet effects weight loss such that diabetes in no longer evident, does it matter if the weight lost (and end of the diabetic state) was caused by the low carbs or the low calories? Either way the result is the same. As to your second question, whether increasing carbs in the diet after losing the weight will result in a return of diabetes, that I cannot answer because I am not diabetic. There are several people posting on these forums who are diabetic — many of them have started to transition to a 5:2 diet and have undoubtably increased their intake of carbs as they do so. Perhaps they could share their experiences on that issue.

Also iv hit a plateau which I know is to be expected but am in week 6 and don’t think iv lost anything since the second week and am unsure of what to do.
I’m considering just going to the 5:2 if I’m not going to lose anymore.
However I need to lose more!
Considering I’m only eating 800 calories I’m surprised i haven’t lost more

Hi there,
I’m just counting calories and avoiding carbs, but I was wondering what the deal is with veg like peppers, courgettes, leafy greens?
I was really limiting myself as the recipes would say 50g of green beans etc so I assumed I needed to be strict with them but iv since read people are filling out their meals with veg to make more filling.
So am I ok to do this? As long as I count them in?
I felt more controlled making sure my portions were small but now I’m rethinking it

Having read slightly more on the forums I am starting to wonder whether the BSD is being misrepresented as a cure for diabetes and is not just a low calorie diet which, by its nature, limits blood sugars from rising. From a clarity point of view i would be concerned if the quote from page 10 of Dr Mosley’s book should more correctly read ‘.They remain free of diabetes provided they keep the weight off and continue to follow a low carb diet’ . That would not be the same thing at all!Alternatively it is possible that this issue is clearly addressed somewhere else in the BSD book and I have missed it.
Any chance of an informed reply? Without meaning to be rude surely someone on this forum (perhaps Dr Mosley) must be able to make an informed comment.

Thanks everyone for your input! I’m looking forward to figuring this all out. I’ll definitely give the recipes a go 🙂

Hello!

Day 4 has gone okay. I am still struggling with sugar cravings and wishing chocolate chip biscuits were just protein…alas not.

Breakfast was yogurt and blueberries, which I am thankfully not sick of yet
Lunch was a bit of a mix: some chicken breast, a red pepper, 2 falafel balls and a tiny bit of hummus
Dinner was really yummy: 2 grilled portobello mushrooms with halloumi and a tomato

Total: 770 kcal and 57.7g of carbs (mostly from the falafel)

I might have a square of 70% dark chocolate later which is another 56 calories, but I’ve had a square at night for the last two days and I don’t want it to become a habit.

My step total right now is 6098, but I am going to go out for a walk soon, so that will increase my total and hopefully get me to 10k.

I am a bit concerned about how I will manage the weekend, but I have to get through day 5 first!

Oh God. I do not ‘baby love’ Spinach. I do not, I repeat, I do not have a spinach fetish. I ‘love baby’ Spinach.

*Facepalm*

You’ve done really well to get to where you have done! Keep it up!

I’m off to Yoga followed by a Tap dancing class. No time for any tea so this will make my Fast till Breakfast….whoopee.
Enjoy the cycle ride and the Gym.
The sun has just come out here. Have fun. 🙂

Ah is it one of those, is it? Before I know it the whole pot is gone and I’ve got 150 calories left for tea? I’ve just had my BLAT salad, oh my days I enjoyed it so much. I baby love spinach leaves and peanut butter.

Haha, thank you 🙂 But I can’t take all the credit. It’s a team effort. And remember. There’s no ‘ME’ in ‘TEAM’.

Unless you move the letters.

Sorry, just seen that on Amazing World of Gumball and it tickled me 😉 I’m a total child, I know.

Now – what new book to start reading? I’m still in a novel mood now after Girl on the Train.

Thank you Timmy! yes at least we know what we are battling with now and can make a long term plan.

Well done on your weight loss and keep going!

In the mood for a nice long cycle ride after work.
Gym tomorrow.
What are you in the mood to do this evening?
Love Lucia
Xxxxx

see you think that’s loads and then you’ll taste it…. :-)))))

You can add in roasted peppers and other delicious stuff too if you make it from scratch – I should again… soon…

Just had a tub of green leaves and a spoon of peanut butter there – delicious. It was all that talk of it before, reminded me!

The glossary is hilarious… you’re wasted on procrastination. 🙂

Hi all

Day 13 in the fat loss household. I’m measuring everything I’m eating with the myfitnesspal app and am keeping my calories at <800 and my carbs <45. What about sugar though? What should that be? Without paying for the app it thinks I am on 1200 calories for weight loss (can only tell it 800 if I pay a monthly subscription). On my recommended calories its says I should have 150 carbs (which I’m not), 40g of fat, again not usually anywhere near this, 60g protein which I usually go over, 25g of fibre, I usually manage about 5g and 45g of sugar which I am sometimes close to. Is 45g of sugar too high on this diet? Would that explain why I haven’t lost a lot? Only 7lb in 13 days 🙁

Thanks

How did I forget the Pashmina, it was only like, an hour ago or something!! Didn’t Tokyo come out with another one around the time of the pot of hurrah? Something to do with ‘me’?

Never forget…

– Eat your tuna armed with a laser pointer (for when cat based psychology is required)
– don your Pashmina of Determination (for when the going gets tough and you can’t have a biscuit)

WRITE THESE DOWN LUCKY!

Haha Tokyo, you would make a good defence lawyer!

Eps, I think it was about 150 for a quarter of a tub, which would be ample for me with some veggie sticks. Glorious orange colour too. I hope it is spicy.

Yes Jill. I have a good feeling about this. 24/25 years of slimming clubs, at the start only about half a stone to lose, going up to 18 stone 10 at my highest, when I did my last stint in WW after my father’s heart attack, and having half my body weight plus to lose. I lost 4 and a half stone then… put all but half a stone back on by New Year’s Day. I’m only short too – five foot one and a half. It feels different because I don’t feel like I’m on a diet. I don’t feel hungry. I don’t feel denied because we’re all working in our little way to come up with acceptable alternatives (chickpea ‘wraps’, farty flatbreds, scones, cookies, muffins, crackers, breads) but I think the main part is, and I don’t know if anyone agrees with me, is that we’ve kicked/are kicking the carb and sugar addiction. On other diets/plans, you can still eat chocolate, still eat crisps, still eat potatoes. It doesn’t work. You always end up wanting more. So I think if any plan is going to be successful, it’s this one. Apart from a tiny bit of carb flu, there’s been no adverse effects on me. It doesn’t feel like a diet. There’s nothing to fall off the wagon for, we don’t want it any more, we don’t need it, we have alternatives – as long as we plan and adapt, and know what we can and can’t eat. I think we all have an element of what you were saying before about being on the road a lot and it being hard (not all of us to your extent though) but it can be done.

Going to have to go through this thread with a fine toothcomb and get a word doc sorted with all the different expressions… Shame we can’t do a FAQ or pinned post at the top.
Pot of Hurrah – Commonly served after successful avoidance of cake all afternoon.
Tutting at Wilted Kale – When something doesn’t quite meet your exacting standards. See: KALE; YANKEE CANDLES
How Much! – See: HOLLAND & BARRETT; ELECTRONIC ENGINEERING TEXTBOOKS; JO MALONE CANDLES
Robes/Capes of Smugness – Items of clothing worn by those feeling righteously smug. This can be for cake avoidance, getting into a lower size, or just because they are of a smug nature, ordinarily.
Shameful Veil of Procrastination – When you’re just sat looking at a PC/phone/tablet screen, waiting for someone to answer your last post, rather than baking the pumpkin seed bread.
Meat Knot – Ahem…
Keep your Chickpeas Chunky – self explanatory. Don’t blend them to a pulp. Fool.
The ‘Well, That Didn’t Work’ Cookbook – For the time being, a mythical, but also very real cookbook of BSD recipes that we hoped would work, but didn’t.
Farty Bread – A brocolli based flat-bread that smells of fart.

Any more for any more?

Absolutely love hummus – Lucky you’re in for a treat! 🙂 Though not a very big portion of treat – I don’t seem to be able to eat that much of it on 800 calories a day!!! It’s those chickpeas… or the oil.. both good but I guess calories build up and combine to create such deliciously creamy goodness!

i am posting in defence of m and s !!! most saturday i go in and we have a m and s tea !!! i have still gone in whilst doing this and avoided putting all the things i normally put in my basket but found plenty of things i can have so my defence rests in the case against m and s !!!
and no i dont like hummus!!! the very thought shudders my bones !!

Did someone say humus?? Love it. Bloody kids love it too and keep dunking their cocktail sausages in it when I’m not looking 😡

SVP – Shameful Veil of Procrastination. Hahaha, we are divising a complete wardrobe of mood swings. Someone needs that robe of smugness back on.

Think I will cook the Paleo cookies for my boy’s summer party this weekend. Leave the Willies out tho, they’re too good for small boys. That’s sounds very wrong actually 😳

Challenge on who hits the 1000th post.. We will be slowing down and speeding up, trying to hit it!

I’m with Caramba on that advice. I am using it on my Ipad as it is soooo much easier to navigate
Jill

Lucky – it WILL be this time – if you are like me and have decades of fruitless anxiety about weight and failed or abandoned diets – what I now tell myself is ‘this WILL work and I will stick with it because I don’t want to have to do this again’
Jill

Hi Timmy

Yes I have read the book and it doesn’t tell you not to eat carbs and yes it does teach you to focus on good carbs, but most people on here are talking about carb allowances and cutting carbs, so it gets confusing.

Thanks for advice 😊

Hi Caramba
Great thanks for that will have a go later.
Regards
Jan😊

Never, ever, ever.

Yes I have measuring teaspoons but they’re like slidey ones so you can change the measurement and besides which, I like my teaspoon of peanut butter better. Or, my finger straight in the jar. No judging, it’s only me that eats the stuff in this house 😉

I’m curious now about this thing you call hummus. Is it that good? I do see a lot of people go on about it, just never appealled to me. Might try mine for lunch tomorrow then.

You’ve never had hummus? WTAF? We get through buckets of it in my house every week! I thought it was a staple of everyones diet, lol!

We’ve got a proper teaspoon measuring thingy. Makes it far easier when you’re cooking.

Unfortunately most standard weights/calories of a teaspoon of peanut butter and MY idea of teaspoon of peanut butter are not the same thing 😉 Level vs heaped etc. I watered some down ever so slightly the other week, added some hot chilli flakes and used it as a dip for celery and cucumber. That was nice. I’ve never had hummus before, I’ve got some in the fridge, a chilli one from Tesco.

Don’t live in France, but go there at least twice a year and also my brother lives there.

Hi SW, have you read the book? If not I’d suggest grabbing it and reading it. Like you I’m not diabetic either and just wanted to shift some timber.

I the main focus of the book is about reducing refined and starchy carbs and really getting a grip on your carbs whilst also making sure you get enough lean protein and good fats.

The book is also a bit of an eye opener about what “good” carbs actually look like!

JollyRoger, the Menton lemon festival?? Is that a trip to France for you or do you live there. I ask because I live near Bergerac and wondered if there were any other people from France.

Just eat it straight off the spoon! My son eats hummus off a spoon. It make my missus wretch.

I am looking at starting this diet, but don’t really want to count calories, carbs etc …

I’m not diabetic, but very overweight and really want to give this diet a go, if I just count my 800 cals a day and focus on good carbs will I still have success?

Peanut butter on wholemeal toast…

Peanut butter on chickpea wrap, toasted?

Can you toast a chickpea wrap?

Hmmm…

See Timmy, I’m hoping I feel like that, because I’m seeing it in the sweetness of normal things. Almonds for example, never noticed before how sweet they were. Just normal fruit. I haven’t had anything I shouldn’t have had in the last nearly 5 weeks, so I won’t be able to tell until I do. But I do know I found the scones I baked overbearingly sweet. I am lucky in that I am more savoury inclined anyway.