Congratulations BP you must feel marvellous
Well done and thanks for being such an inspiration to everyone ! X

BigP you are truly an inspiration. I just told my DH this morning that i only had 30 lbs to lose in Aug and Sept to reach my goal of 50 lbs lost by the end of Sept and he basically made it sound like it was impossible. But after looking at your profile and see what you accomplished I feel I CAN do this!! Thanks you were a major pick up for me this morning. 🙂

Hi Lowenna,

I think it very much depends on your reason for following the diet… If you are diabetic it is best to avoid carbs that may spike the blood sugars – so many people avoid or heavily restrict carb intake to regulate their response – and/ or to break carb addiction.
Others are wanting to eat more healthily or lose weight generally and find that restricting carbs further helps speed up weight loss. You could start off following the plan as laid out in the book and then ‘fine tune’ to suit your own body/needs?

Hope that helps, am sure others will jump in with more informed replies😕

X

Hi Josie53,

I spent childhood in Devon, my mum still lives in Exmouth…the seagulls are aggressive, especially when raising young…noisy too!! I quite like the (distant) sound of seagulls though – reminder of my youth😏

I’ve joined numerous gyms in the past but have always been put off by the cost and by the people. They always seem such unfriendly and pressured places and I always end up leaving

Today I went on an induction day at my local Warners Hotel. They let people join their leisure club and then you get the same benefits as the guests. This includes use of the pool, the gym and other activities like archery and shooting. I thought this might work better for me because I can’t do full on exercise. Everyone was so friendly. I went for a swim and a walk and easily completed my 10,000 steps. All without having screaming children in my ear!

Just thought i would post this as I had never thought before about joining a hotel club rather than an ordinary gym. And I feel this time I will keep it up.

live in devon seagulls nest in the road its like taking your life in your hands when you go out

awh poor Lucky – can hear the annoyance about that bleeding car. Damn, that roof box wouldve been useful. Ha ha ha ah well, as you said, he can work it out! Is there any enjoyment in saying I told you so? (to him) I enjoy a good I told you so :-0)))))

he he sick after a tiny bar of 85% is a good thing as apparently they only meant to be eaten in small quantities – who knew?? Like the vegan and the meat eater about animals: well why did they make them so delicious so!!!
Anyway, high five for abstemiousness in face of car turmoil! ;-))) (Up-style)

Yes, toasts deliciously. Really. It would be fab with peanut butter or almond butter. Yes, yes yes. Tell husband that if he sorts out that car quick he can have a piece soon 😉

I would certainly suggest starting off slow and making sure you don’t overdo the resistance and strengthening exercises. I always joke that MM’s Fast Execise got me to my ideal weight. It did but only because I was following the recommended ladder exercises and ended up in Bristol Spinal Unit. I would always get a GP check as well.

So I’m feeling a bit confused by what you can and can’t eat. The book says anything under a GI of 55? is okay and that porridge oats are fine but I see lots of posts on here and elsewhere saying no you can’t have porridge oats or quinoa or pretty much anything else.

I was looking today at gluten free oat cakes at 0.1g and rye bread at 1.1g which seem okay but I am now unsure. Are these okay or not. I am not eating what is on the diagram on this site but almost everything contains carbs.

Help!

Ps as far as I am aware I’m not diabetic

I did a blood test and blood sugars were around 7, so not low at all. At yes I am testing in the morning before food and also 2 hours after food.

If you feel whoozy do a blood test, if it is just a bit low have something on the good list to eat. I think there is a difference between being low and having a hypo, I have only ever had one hypo and I was unconscious but for no apparent reason. Before you get to that stage eat something. Are you testing.

Create a reason to wear that frock, go girl.👄💅👗👛👠

Yeahhhhh milestones we love them,

Regards
Jan🌞🌞🌞

Hi Lucia

Bbc2 10 pm yesterday,

Regards
Jan🍓

When do you know when to stop? That is if you are doing the BSD Fast Diet to reverse diabetes or prediabetes? That is if your problem really is just visceral fat.

MM recounts the story of a man who lost 9lb in 11 days, tested his Blood Glucose levels, found that they were normal and stopped the Fast Diet. Well the full story is that his BGs has returned to normal after 11 days and 9lb weight loss, he waited two months to see his doctor and his blood tests were still well below the diabetes mark and regular tests since are fine.

In my case my BGs as told by my HaB1cs are in the normal range, I don’t test before and after meals because NICE (the NHS advisers) don’t think Type 2s need to test. Again Michael suggests going to your doctor for tests after two weeks and after four weeks and if your results are OK to go on to the maintenance diet.

I know I put off my HbA1c, just told the GP practice it didn’t suit, so should be getting another in August, maybe even before the end of the 8 weeks, but that suits me as I have been seeing good enough weight loss results already.

So, has anyone stopped before the end of the 8 weeks? Or before the end of 4 weeks?

When did you test your Blood Sugars SteveR. Have you tested to see if your Blood Sugars work OK again after ‘normal’ meals?

Fixing Dad is mentioned and summarised in MM’s book. It is still available on the iplayer for a 29 days http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07m8nzd

That was discussed Eps, a roof box – which incidentally, we used to have! Until he decided to sell it as we didn’t need it when we bought an 8 seater… you can’t make this up. It wouldn’t be a case of leaving half of it at home, the tent will literally take up half the boot on its own. No, he has made his bed, he’ll have to lie in it. I’m not forking out again on something else, if he wants a roof box, he can sell the trailer. God knows why he bought the bloody thing anyway.

I’m not hungry because I just went and had one of those little bars of Aldi 85% chocolate and now I feel sick. Yes, sick. I can’t believe it. I used to be able to demolish a 200g slab and not feel sick. Yes, there were a few turnip recipes earlier in the thread that were exciting (well, as exciting as this gets anyway…) and I was off looking for turnips at the market but they must be out of season.

That’s great news about your OH starting with you 🙂 Yes I think it’s 800 across the board on this one. It is do-able though, my husband was 18 stone 4 when he started and he’s coped on 800 calories for over 6 weeks.

Great too that the bread was a success! I don’t count carbs but I would take care with any bread, whether it was legal or not and probably only have a slice here and there. Did it toast ok? Can you tell I’m still thinking about peanut butter on brown toast???

thanks sunshine-girl.
I am feeling quite whoozy this afternoon but I guess that’s to be expected until my body gets used to so little calories.

Hey Big Hearted P!!!
Great job and congratulations on your accomplishment!! You must be so proud and feel so great!
Thanks for sharing as it’s inspirational to all of us in here working for our own goals.
🌷💖💜

BTW – that porridge bread is so delicious. Wouldn’t advise it maybe if not able to stick to one slice every now and again as it is more carbs than some people could cope with I guess, but really, sooooo tasty – had some with an egg this morning. Delicious! It’s now in the freezer for times of emergency and for the odd piece every now and again. 14g carbs and 5.8g Protein and 111 calories per slice (I5 in whole loaf).

Thanks Pmshrink. Lost hardly anything last week (3) but it’s picked back up again, seems like lots of folks plateau on week 3 from what I’ve read. Good advice about the whole milk, don’t like it in my drinks but if it keeps the sugars down then I might have to do it.
Still allowing myself a coffee with sugar and an occasional after eight mint but it’s all counted. Had a couple of days when I went over on both carbs and calories, not by a great deal but enough, and strangely those were the days when I lost the weight the next morning!!

I can really feel a difference in myself. Not much shifting in waist measurements but I can see and feel the difference, jeans are hanging off. Now lost 10lb 🙂

Wonder could you get a roof rack from someone Lucky? Or one of those plastic things that go on the top of the car? Someone might have a loan of one or maybe you could get one for cheap enough on one of those websites – buy/sell?
Sounds v frustrating but it’s only stuff and you’ll have a great time once you get there hopefully… leave half of it at home!

Wouldn’t worry about winter recipees – loooooads of great stuff we can have and a change will be good then. I will probably have had enough courgette noodles after 3 months more of it :-)))) We can have stews and casseroles and delicious things! Heard turnips work well instead of potatoes – little cubes of them. Hope you not still starving. I had sauerkraut and radishes and tomatoes and half an avocado for lunch and piece of dark chocolate hee hee. Yes, need to cut that out… I know!

Tokyo glad to hear you a 50’s starlet in your rediscovered dress. It’s a good feeling! Not that I know the 50’s starlet one yet but the feeling of something looking good!

Janey keep us posted on fancy vegan Paltrow choices you made – it’s kind of nice to be somewhere where the food has none of the bad stuff in it – relaxing to look at a menu and think ooooo which one of these will I have, instead of oooo could have that, without that and maybe a bit of that…

Good on you gymgirl – keep up the good work. Hope your daughter shares her flowers – with us all :-)))))

Latest news my OH is starting with me tomorrow – YAAAAYY. I dont even mind if it means making double everything because I know I ll be even more motivated trying to show him there’s loads of delicious stuff still to eat. He’s just doing it to be healthy – I bet the weight will fall off him, though he doesn’t have much to lose except around waist. Do men only get 800 calories too? Delighted anyway as think this way of eating is great for everyone.

Hi Claire, whatever you do, don’t blame yourself. We are all in the same boat and for many different reasons, there are so many theories, too fat, too much sugar in our diets, family history. If anyone knew the cause then doctors would have an easy life. When I was diagnosed I was 8.5 stone although that was after losing about a stone with the diabetes. However, 9.5 stone was only very slightly overweight for me. I have only been seriously overweight twice in my life, when I was pregnant and straight after and when I gave up smoking, both times I was about 3 stone overweight but I very soon lost it. My mum had T2 so maybe that is it.

One thing this diet has shown is that if, once we have diabetes, food can make it worse, then it is obvious that food can also be the cure. When I was diagnosed I went on tablets for nearly a year and had a terrible stomach, when my doctor suggested insulin the first night I sat with the syringe in my hand for a good 30 minutes. That was when I cried, I realised I really had something life threatening and I was about to stick a needle in myself. Over the years (nearly 11 now) I have come to accept it but I still have weepy moments, especially when injecting. Why oh why oh why. But no matter, I just get on with it.

Having found this diet I am using less insulin, reduced my other medication, losing weight and watching my b/g numbers fall quite dramatically (from 11.5 to 5.5) in two weeks. You have found the right place and 800 calories is quite easy to achieve. All you have to remember is to eat good foods, no crappy carbs, just the good ones and fill yourself up with good oils and satisfying meals. This morning I have 2 grilled large mushrooms with a poached egg on top at only 75 calories and felt well fed until lunchtime when I had beetroot hummus with stocks of veggie sticks.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Thanks for your reply, missed the notification on this one! Yes, makes sense, thanks

@quinnt Thanks, I was thinking that that might somehow be the case – putting on a bit of muscle whilst losing fat. Thanks for your help.

@sunnyb – your path to weight loss is inspirational, so glad that stone (finally) came off, but expect that you are even more glad! What is your total loss to date? Again I’m doing this to try to lickstart my insulin etc and maybe have a normal bodily reaction to foodstuffs, the weight loss is a very acceptable side effect.

@nursebean – thank you. Looking at your progress you seem to be dropping the lbs too, hope it helps with your ME/CFS.

Well, I cheated again last night! Yeh, my Kryptonite: 3 velveeta slices an hour before bed watch Ray Donovan!
5 hours after waking up and everything done for the day. Maybe I should do some more writing and editing on my book.
Monday morning is a boring morning. 9 to 5 people are in chaos and running in all directions at work. Working at home…. A luxury. Thank God I do not work Wall Street anymore. What a relief….. especially my 5 years seizure free since surgery.

Gotta go off to Sam’s and do some shopping this morning. They do not open at 5 AM. Let’s see if this day would be good. Atleast I will eat lunch (My Breakfast) at noon today. Starvation or fasting makes me overeat later. It do not work!

Sometime this week my scale and glucose meter will come. Jet and Ebay beats Target and Kohls anyday!!!! Worth the wait!

No harm in checking, hope you don’t have it robin_dj !

Comhghairdeas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Congrads in gaelic)

You just took a big huge step. What!???? You Have a plan????? Watch this quickie video on your diet and health plan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwozVKOkzz4

Always give a holler. We all here for you and also ourselves!

Live Long And Prosper,

Daniel

Thanks from reply..really helps that info. I am on week 3 and I seriously can’t stand this. I’m hungry…feel lightheaded….and these recipes are really getting me down. I have been pleasantly surprised by some of them…but only some…it’s a good job I’m off for 6 week…I seem to be forever planning, shopping, and cooking… I feel I could never live like this…I can’t stop fantasising about TOAST…oh I could just eat half a loaf right now! ….anyway sorry for the moan….felt really alone on this and it is a relief to find this forum.. this is the best path for me though so I am persevering with it. Will let you know what recipes I come up with…thanks again sunshine-girl 😊

Yayyyyyyy 👗👍🏽😍 Cinderella moment!

Hi again Anna
BTW Michael says have full fat milk and not much of it. Full fat has proportionately less sugars but you still need to just have a splash.
Penny

Yeah we do but even bare minimum for five isn’t going to fit in a mondeo boot. 8 man tent, clothes for 5 including spares as kids play in a stream etc. Car too small. Going to face the same thing when we go anywhere now on a big holiday. I’m fed up.

Well folks let me introduce myself, I’m Karen, I’m 46 and I live in Belfast. I started the blood sugar diet today – for the second time – the first time I wasn’t really committed and kept having weekend ‘cheat meals’ and unplanned snacks the like and threw in the towel a few weeks in after an admittedly half-assed attempt. This time I’m determined to be more rigorous, I really need to do something – I weigh (whisper) 17 stone 4 and I know it’s way too much, it’s just crept up over the last few years. My dad has type 2 diabetes, all his family have too, and he has different complications through his diabetes and every time I see him he goes “have you started your diet yet” as he doesn’t want me to go through the same struggles as him. I’m not diabetic yet but given my family history and weight I’m fairly high risk…so I want to take myself in hand now (and hopefully get healthier in the process!)

I’ve been lurking on the forums a while and it’s really interesting reading people’s stories, and inspiring too, I only hope I can do half so well 🙂

So today I started, I’ve done up a menu on MFP for the week, ordered the healthy groceries, and I have a plan! Today I had greek yoghurt and berries with some flaked almonds for breakfast, chicken salad for lunch and dinner tonight will be sesame salmon with stir fry veg. I hope I stick with it this time. Tired of wearing size 20 and having dodgy knees and I want to be able to run for a bus without feeling like my lungs will burst 🙂

Hi Anna
I didn’t realise you meant those sort of sugars. I think we just stick to a carb limit and don’t worry about the sugars.
BTW I found I had to go lower than 45g carb down to 25-30 to lose weight consistently.
Best
Penny

Hi Icarus, I am known for flying by the seat of my pants when it comes to low blood glucose, mainly when it gets to 4 or 5 pm and I previously used to have a snack. It can be quite frightening seeing your results go down and down but this is what the diet is meant to do. Do not even think of brown bread, it is bread by another colour. Most things that say wholemeal, wholewheat, natural etc are not, they are manufactured. I know a little brown rice is allowed on this but only a very small amount. He is right, he does need slow release carbs (not a lot) and these are found in chickpeas, lentils, nuts, fruit (not too sweet), lots of foods if you can find a GI diet list on line.

Is your husband on insulin. As my readings came down I slowly slowly reduced my insulin. Like Bill says, Gliclazide can cause lows and I have cut mine from 3 a day to 2 but you might want to ask your doctor first. If mine get really low I have something like prunes or sultanas and a tablespoon of yogurt – advised to me on here as I didn’t want to go the bread, jam, juice root. Try to get him to have a mid afternoon snack left over from his lunch or make up a hummus dip with some celery or carrot sticks or eat an apple, all this before his bloods get too low. Is he checking regularly, I mean a couple of times a day. If he starts to feel shaky or any of the symptoms he should do a blood test, if it is low, have something good to eat. I know some of the foods don’t sound great but who knew I would come to love minted pea hummus served with carrot, cucumber and celery sticks.

Good luck

Hi Everyone
Well, 2 weeks ago today I went to the docs with a suspected urinary infection and after a urine dip and many trips back to the docs that day and over the next few I was diagnosed as a Type 2 diabetic.
I was shocked and upset. All I could think was that I had brought this on myself by over the last 20 years since leaving university being on a permanent diet and cycling between loosing weight and putting on weight. I also knew of the health issues so was very, very worried.

Although my diabetic nurse said I could make a big difference by ‘life style’ changes, when I questioned her, she couldn’t give me specifics on diet, just cutting out sugar and loosing weight. She gave me the standard food pyramid, which I don’t believe in anyway. I am a believer and have been for a while of Paleo/lower carb eating, so I wondered whether this could be a good approach.
I bought Dr David Cavans book and then on weightlossresurses forum someone mentioned Michael Mosleys book, which I bought and read in a day. I really like the scientific side of his book with proven research; this appeals to my nature.

Last week I started low carbing on around 1500cals a day and have lost 6lbs and my blood sugars are coming down. When I first started testing just over a week ago they were 13-11; today I saw a 6!!!

Yesterday I started the 800cal low carb eating and I’m furiously trying to convince myself I can keep to 800cals for 8 weeks!!!

Michaels section about exercise also woke something up in my brain; especially when he talked about exercise making blood sugar go down due to depletion of glycogen stores and our muscles needing to replenish them. This has given me the reason to hit the gym!!

I have a long way to go….I am 4 1/2 stone over weight at the top of the BMI scale but I have really got a reason to do this now…do I want a limb amputated and loose my eyesight…NO!

Great positive form by the way….
TTFN
Claire x

PS – do other people get emotional and teary at the reasons why we have to do this e.g. the side effects? I do…

oh no lucky not having a good time today !!
i will find you some goid winter recipes we cracked baking we ca crack winter !! do you have to take loads of stuff for camping ?
sending hug just because your not looking forward to tea!!
i may have a mid weigh in tomorrow before thurs !! fingers crossed
although bought a dress last year lovely but tight very 50s style swirly twirly and on sat fit perfect looked like a proper fifties starlet in my dreams !!!!

Diabetes is in my family so worth a check

Yes, if you can work them out for yourself. Also there are other sites that do the low GI foods, the one I use is sparkpeople.com. I decided to stick to the menu plans in the book and have worked my way through all 4 weeks so now I am picking and chosing, leaving out the ones I didn’t live (Beetroot Falafels) and modifying the one’s I like except for some ingredients i.e. my mackerel dip is now a tuna dip. I tend to look at the calorie count rather than number of carbs but stay completely away from the forbidden carbs. Good luck and let us know if you come up with any good recipes.

It might work. Think I did find a couple of recipes.

I’ve got no chicken and I’ve defrosted this stuffed turkey thing now. Meh. Trying to clear out freezers at the mo because I keep buying every week, and if we are going camping it makes no financial sense buying for here and buying while away. Although husband just admitted now he’s not confident in taking the trailer so I’m a bit annoyed, when the basis of the argument of downsizing from an 8 seater to a 5 was that we could still camp as he’d bought a trailer. I don’t drive so it’s out of my hands.

I am shedding a tear for your success. What a sec? I am a guy! Guys don’t get so Gone With The Wind emotional! 😉 I am more of an Anna Karenina or Dr. Zhivago tear jerker than Brett Butler, though! 🙂

I hope doctor oz opened a good view on why you and everyone else is doing this stuff. Not just the outside, also the inside of your body.

His TV show got a lot of flack from the medical industry that wants you hooked on fructose corn syrup and sugar. I have to say in my opinion that he does good for the medical community by informing us simpletons on important info and easy tricks to better health.

This week I should be getting my scale and glucose meter. Cheaper on Ebay or Jet, but takes longer to get.I sinned last night grabbing 3 Velveeta slices last night as a snack an hour before bed. But, alls well that ends well. Atleast I disowned my two best friends: Ben and Jerry! We are not friends anymore! 😉

Daniel

what about chickpea flour !!! we shall have to find some winter warmers ooh er mrs !!!
what about that loyd grossman curry sauce for tea ?

It’s not the suet it’s the flour Tokyo 😞 And I don’t find many soups filling unless I chuck potato in to thicken them.
I don’t fancy my tea now and I am starving today, I’m not usually this hungry.

There are some recipes on this diet that I’m struggling with…can I pick any recipe as long as it works out to 800 cals a day? Does it say this in the book?..I have missed that bit then if it does! I’m sticking to the planned meals but cannot stomach some of them…especially savoury food for breakfast other than salmon and eggs.

cant we have have dumplings ?? i am sure i looked on a box of atora suet and carbs were ok !! maybe i made that up ??
janey please tell me you will return from the paltrow style darkness!!
just having lunch cottage cheese salad then thats it till burger tonight
i was thinking stews for winter and thick soups !!!!

well I am having a rethink

last week – after finding out my cholesterol had gone up – my commitment went down
I binged
I knew I would
not badly, but nevertheless I failed
and as a consequence lost nothing

and the inches – even on ‘loss’ weeks are hardly moving
so I have decided I am going to ATTEMPT to count calories and keep to under 800
not sure I can, as my head is still screaming at me for more more more
but I will try and see if that helps
I am getting so impatient with it all

I have considered fd’s but don’t really want to face more months of throat issues

I tend to eat only between 8am and 6pm, but that clearly has no affect at all

Not sure current OH has ever bought me flowers. He’s rubbish like that 🙄

Hi Igorasusual
A figure beginning with 8……truly amazing.
Well done.

Oooooh, shall I dump hubby? Don’t think he’s bought me flowers since March…