And a pot of hurrah? I think we’re all drinking from the cafetiere of pfffffffffffffft today, ladies!

of to do greek chicken now !! surely i cant cock this up too its chicken and lemons and onions !!!!!
what was that my head said fish and chips mushy peas white bread and butter !!

I don’t think I am either Tokyo, isn’t it funny. Other days I breeze through just fine. This pizza thing is lovely, so it’s not a disaster, not completely, just the amount of calories are. But, looking at it another way, it’s a lot better for me than eating regular pizza. Free range eggs, double cream, butter (proper butter!), herbs, flaxseed, tiny bit of coconut flour, tomatoes, and salami. Sod it. I won’t go over by that much anyway, fgs. Not eaten anything all day, so I’m sure I can have that and a nice bowl of greek yogurt with fruit and maybe a mousse bar later.

As tweeted, Elana’s recipe is FAIL. On the plus side, whoever needed the crumble topping.. I have a ton of it here as the muffins are crumbling before my very eyes. undeterred I fed one to my son and his ‘far too polite to refuse’ friend, who then desperately needed a drink! I am trying to make the best of a bad lot by thinking they would be nice with some ice cream (not that we can have it) or on stewed fruit (too much hassle!).

Tokyo – you can’t go to bed at 4pm.. but I know how you feel! The Slippers of despair are firmly on!

i dont want to be a mardy bum
( miserable bugger!!) but i am so not feeling the BSD today !!!
i agree you could have found i regular pizza and its a lot of calories when we have teeny tiny cal allowance
is it too early to go to bed and call it a day !!

Oh God Janey, just seen your disaster too, I’ve been hopping back and forth between two devices, not too successfully. Elana, didn’t you say she was a friend of Paltrow? Say no more.

Ok, I’ve tweeted the pic. Upon cutting it, it IS more bready than eggy. So, we cut one slice into half to try (100 cals each!) and – it’s actually very nice indeed. Just very very high in calories. Nearly our whole calories for the day in three small flat slices of ‘pizza’. So, pretty much like eating regular bloody pizza then. Grrrrrrrrrrrr. Don’t know what to do now. What a bloody day.

Yes, I know what you mean Tokyo. Jeez we’re all on a rampage today!

Just spent last half hour making these, plus time watching them in oven, and really disappointed. Got a real stick at the back of my throat from eating just a morsel to try. Added a fair amount of water but they just looked like mashed potato and looked like mashed potato with crispy bits on top when cooked. Very claggy, very coconutty and a very weird texture, not nice I’m afraid!

Well my pizza bread is out and it looks and smells delicious… But the whole loaf thing worked out half a cal under 1200 cals. It’s sliced into six… 😞 Will attempt to tweet a pic off this pad thing now

my mix was the same it just wasnt right !!!!! i looked wrong not like the usual batter more a clump!!!

i may have to have a Willie to cheer myself up 🙁

I get where you’re coming from though..

i know i may be on my own on this one and as much as i find this diet do-able i am not sure all the coconut flour almond flour coconut sugar all the million and one things in our ever expanding cupboards will ever taste like we or maybe i expect it too!!
i know this is probably treason and i maybe held accountable for treason against BSD but no brownie will taste like my brownies , no amount of farty bread will taste like a crusty white loaf with butter on !!!
i know its about what we want what are goals are but geez i could murder a bar of chocolate right now !!!!!!

I fear we may need to declare today ‘ Epic Fail Friday’. I have just attempted Elana’s bloody coffee cake and the whole mix looked wrong. What she described as being a batter looked more like very lumpy scrambled egg, even though I tried to add a little oil to soften it up. Put the mix in muffin cases rather than a whole cake and now they look like cooking mini crumbles.. with almonds on top 🙁

20 mins till they come out of the oven.. and I’m starving!

I know this might sound odd to people, that I’ll eat pizza but not entertain it on a potato or a sandwich or an omelette but… I just don’t like the thought of it. Bugger.

Oh no Tokyo 🙁

My pizza ‘loaf’ is in the oven. You had to bake a layer first… and it looked like omelette. Then layer it up with tomato, cheese, salami/pepperoni etc and then put the rest on it. So basically, I have probably, very probably, just p*****d around for the last hour making a pepperoni and cheese omelette in the oven. I DON’T LIKE CHEESE! I would never, ever eat a cheese omelette!

the one out of the book just wanted something a bit chocolatey it was between them and some chickpea sweet muffins from phil vickery i found should have gone with the muffins !!!! taste no sweetness not nice !!!

Ohhh… what’s up with them then? which recipe did you use??

OMG!!!! i feel violated !! i only have one word duped oh yes they look like brownies and they smell like brownies but my god they sure dont taste like brownies !!
i tried it and spat it out brendas kitchen gives it a bit fat zero !!!!
i would rather have the teeniest tiniest piece of my normal brownie
another fail !! off to make tzatziki now for my greek chicken !!

We await your results Tokyo! let’s see if people ‘diss them as much as they did to mine!

Seconded
you know how low carbing works, should be a breeze for you.

well i have just made the brownies in the book
now keep in mind i made brownies on a firtnightly basis and people even asked me to make them and i will just say these are not or ever likely to be a brownie !!!! and i tweaked the recipe too !! i await the exit from the oven !!!!

Exactly what I do. Fasting readings are notoriously erratic because of the stored sugar released during the sleeping hours.
I also found that having a fatty snack before bed reduced the fasting readings as, apparently, it stops the liver from releasing so much sugar if your digestive system is otherwise engaged.
My pre and post meal readings are much closer to the HbA1c test results.
Like I say others had the same experience, I think Cherrianne was one of them.

I am still of the opinion that the 800 cal diet is supposed to reverse diabetes – check out the Newcastle Diet webpage. People returned to eating the food they ate before but with a bit of moderation as to portion sizes etc. and remained non- diabetic a year after the diet. this diet is supposed to replicate the Newcastle diet, with the exception that instead of using colorie controlled shakes and 200 cal from leafy veg, it is based on ‘real’ food.

I am still doing the diet for the purpose of reversing my diabetes. I didn’t have to lose much weight, maybe 17 lbs which would leave my BMI in the low edge of ‘normal’, My BMI is normal, my lifestyle and diet has kept my HbA1c in the ‘normal range since diagnosis, but I would like to give my pancreas a chance to do its work properly again, and I see this diet as a means to achieve this.

I suppose this is one of those “time will tell” situations.
Personally I have no wish to go back to eating simple carbs, I don’t miss them or even fancy them, but I stiil get a spike if I inadvertently eat some.
It will be interesting to see the outcome for someone who has been told their condition is reversed when they go back to eating the simple carbs again.
Like I said before, it doesn’t matter if we call it reversed or diet controlled, as long as the results are the same.

This is from Newcastle University Website

“Professor Roy Taylor said: “What we have shown is that it is possible to reverse your diabetes, even if you have had the condition for a long time, up to around 10 years. If you have had the diagnosis for longer than that, then don’t give up hope – major improvement in blood sugar control is possible.

“The study also answered the question that people often ask me – if I lose the weight and keep the weight off, will I stay free of diabetes? The simple answer is yes!

“Interestingly, even though all our volunteers remained obese or overweight, the fat did not drift back to clog up the pancreas.

“This supports our theory of a Personal Fat Threshold. If a person gains more weight than they personally can tolerate, then diabetes is triggered, but if they then lose that amount of weight then they go back to normal.

“Individuals vary in how much weight they can carry without it seeming to affect their metabolism – don’t forget that 70% of severely obese people do not have diabetes.

“The bottom line is that if a person really wants to get rid of their Type 2 diabetes, they can lose weight, keep it off and return to normal.

“This is good news for people who are very motivated to get rid of their diabetes. But it is too early to regard this as suitable for everyone. That is a separate question and a major study is underway to answer this.”

It also says that after te 8 weeks people returned to their normal food though were advised to eat in moderation

I should be ok Izzy, it’s getting measured in with a spoon lol…

We will be here for you when you return, don’t beat yourself up about taking a few days to get into the zone.

You CAN do it and you WILL!!!!

I only bring this up, not to be controversial, but that the very hope that reversal is possible, is a great incentive to keep going and give us the strength to overcome the daily challenges we must face to overcome this unnecessary disease.

“The high readings were in weeks 5 to 6, after that they settled down again and I know others had the same experience.” – Very Interesting

If you are testing post meal – test at an hour and two hours after to catch quick and slower spikes

I mindfully over consumed and enjoyed it but feared the net weight gain might be more. There was residual glow from the BSD since I was feeling and looking fitter even after +5. Although I’ve lost my taste for excess bread, pasta etc. I found can still eat several ‘healthy’ meals per day and drink plenty of rum cocktails and SA wines without too much guilt!
And I was always conscious that it was just a holiday thing; by the end of the hols I began looking forward to eating less again.

*Crosses fingers and backs away from slippery slope that leads to the fridge*

I believe that the word, reverse, is a legitimate term in this discussion, albeit it is more easily achievable for those who have had the condition for only a few years.

From just one of many, many sources (Healthline.com) :

“Can You Reverse Type 2 Diabetes?

Treatment for type 2 diabetes includes monitoring your blood sugar levels and using medications or insulin when needed. Doctors also recommend losing weight through diet and exercise. If you start eating healthier, get more exercise, and lose weight, you can reduce your symptoms. Research shows that these lifestyle changes, especially physical activity, can even reverse the course of the condition.

Studies that show the reversal of type 2 diabetes include participants who have lived with the condition for only a few years.

Weight loss is the primary factor in patients who have experienced a reversal of type 2 diabetes. Excess fat in the body effects the production of insulin and how it is used. Research has shown that bariatric surgery can reverse type 2 diabetes, but there are less drastic ways that you can lose weight and reduce your symptoms. A commitment to exercise and dietary changes may be all you need. “

Weather is yucky so doubt we will go far, just the post office lol, don’t mind getting wet to get my sewing machine working!

lunch was 2 fried eggs, 2 slices bacon, 1 cherry tomato, and 15g cheese. Yummy it was too!

I’ve added my latest creations to my blog, if anyone wants to see!

http://dragonflydreamseeker.blogspot.co.uk/

Thanks Izzy
thanks too for the recipes in your other thread, I’ll try a couple of them next week. 🙂

I think you make perfect sense Bill.

will you be covered in the double cream later too? or shouldn’t we ask!

I am usually covered with a coating of something… flour, icing sugar, batter, so I have to wear an apron. Very messy cook… but, hey ho. Very small kitchen 🙁

Right off out to get some double cream, forgot yesterday. Catch you later with (hopefully) an edible pizza loaf thingy!

No I tend to look more fraught than smug.. until it comes out of the oven. I don’t wear a pinny or have my hair in a bun or anything like that.. I’m living in a world of chaos here!

Tokyo!

I do sometimes… when I know I’m knocking out something absolutely spot on. Like my Reese’s Dessert.

i have a confession i dont like nigella shes just too smug !!! no one that i know bakes or cooks with that smug face !!
( please tell me you dont janey!!)

Yes, she likes the good stuff does our Nige.

Oh. Oh… bugger. Hadn’t thought of that…

And why does Nigella look so good? Because she likes a bit of cake! I would happily look like her.

Although.. in that case.. aren’t we heading down the Paltrow route with our healthiness? :'(

When folk are talking about carb allowances and cutting carbs, they mean the complex carbs found in veg etc.
The simple carbs in sugar flour pasta and rice are a complete no go if you do the diet properly
A lot of people get confused at the word carbs, you’re not alone but cut out the bad carbs and you will start to lose weight even if you aren’t too strict with the calories

came across this link, one or two I’d like to try with a link to others at the bottom

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne/low-carb-dinner-plan?utm_term=.oqZrk87vP#.gbrRmDAzP

We could go on, Timmy, if you’d like. Now, you know who I do love, Nigella bloody Lawson. Now THAT is a woman who looks fab for her age. I’d rather look like Nigella at 56 than how Gwyneth looks at 43. In fact, I just had a shock when I googled how old Gwyneth was.

And eats dust. and does that dole ful look all the time. And was mean to Iron Man.

At what time did you take the reading?
If it was a fasting reading, the dawn effect could have an influence and my experience was, as I was getting rid of the fat from my liver and pancreas, I got high fasting readings and yet my HbA1C tests were really good. The high readings were in weeks 5 to 6, after that they settled down again and I know others had the same experience.
Test pre and post dinner for a more accurate reading

Aside from her complete ungratefulness in divorcing Chris Martin, the fact that she steam cleans her fadge, and is a complete self-obsessed, health crazed lunatic? Apart from that? Nothing much…

Paltrow’s bad, mmmmmkay?

What’s wrong with our Gwyneth?

Friend requests denied all round for Paltrow 🙂