270 cals of bircher for breakfast? I’d rather hav 2 scoops of Oppo @ 78cals lol! Maybe they can make a breakfast version runforfun? Berry yoghurt flavour – with chia bits if necessary! Put it to the team 🙂

1) T – 12 days until holiday! (and T – 198 days until skiing too :))
2) I think I’ve convinced/inspired my wife and mother in law to give BSD a go
3) It’s steak night tonight!

P.s. I’ve just read about it on the diet doctor website. The info is encouraging. The symptoms for with the timing of the diet.

It changes depending on what I put in it Greenjanet. Do you have Myfitnesspal or one of those apps for your phone? You could check the ones online if not. I put everything in there and it tells you what the carbs and calories are.

Havent made this in a while but checked back last time I did it was something like this: Oats 26g = 96 calories (16g carbs), 6 g almond butter =39 calories, blueberries 50g=28 calories, coconut milk 200ml = 52 calories, chia seeds with cinamon (it’s a pack) =54 calories so total was 270 for breakfast. Hope that helps 🙂

Hi
What’s the carbs and cals in your version

Hi Angiebabe, Thanks for replying. Although I don’t faff with my hair much, it’s worrying watching it go down the plug hole!! I had a similar problem when i had my first baby 28 years ago which I put down to fluctuating hormones. Others haven’t noticed – I keep asking hubby – but it just feels very thin and if I put it up in the hot weather my pony tail seems much smaller. (I suspect only a woman would understand!!). I’m going to try and not worry too much.

Epspecially your idea sounds so much better! going to try that instead of the bircher next week. Thanks!

Oh yea meant to say 2007, mind you I feel like Jan was beamed up and an alien is in her place 👽 Who is motivated full of will power, weirrrrrrd after 41 years of behaving like a eating machine. Bril

oooo nooo I’m telling you there’s soggy and then there’s nice-tasting-soggy – much better ;-)))

I sometimes put 20gs of oats over night mixed with almond milk/coconut milk with no sugar (or normal milk if you have it) + tablespoon of Chia seeds, some frozen raspberries, tablespoon of Fage and a teaspoon of almond butter/peanut butter = SOOOOO delicious. Can also add cacao powder and leave out raspberries and add coconut – so nice. 🙂

Hey Greenjanet
So pleased youve found Oppo near you.
For 100ml of the tub Salted Caramel had 76Kcal, 7.4g of carbs of which sugar 6.2g
Very good for a naughty food fix!

Hi Timmy
Oppo is a healthy ice cream which is much lower in carbs, sugar and fat but taste just as good as normal ice cream!

I don’t like the bircher idea either. Anything that’s been left to get soggy overnight in the fridge is a nono! Have a poached egg, handful of rocket and a slice of smoked salmon for brekkie like I did today – you feel like you’re dining like a duchess but being good as well 😉

Janey’s Goan Gastropub for 6? :-))))

OPPO is THE FUTURE! Its’ non dairy, low carb ice cream – 38 cals per scoop, and low GI! And most importantly, it tastes like a proper dessert! I am sold on the salted caramel! Lucky also gave it a big thumbs up last night! Download your voucher Timmy – it’s a game changer for healthy choices!

Thank you runforfun – we are happy to spread the word on this!

Now, back to less exciting yoghurt. My mum used to make her own by reusing the live culture. Apparently very easy once you’ve got started. I may head over to ebay to see if there are any yog makers going cheap (or is that moo?)!

quick update – if you can access the link below it is a quiz on the fruit and veg amounts we should be eating per day. I had the weight per item slightly high – it is 80g per item so 400g a day, although in fairness that is the lowest you should have. I got most of the quiz q’s correct except one that surprised me – pulses and bean only count as one regardless of how much you have per day 🙁 ….. I have been adding humus as one and lentils in dhal as a second. Back to the planning board.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z27h4j6?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=bbcone&intc_campaign=eatwellforless&intc_linkname=guide_fiveaday_contentcard6

Hee hee I think you’re probably not alone on the poo-phobia Lucky! But unless we find a dog that doesn’t need to go very often, I guess that solution is out! Though some dogs are very discrete!! 😉

Hope today is a good day – Wednesday already – can’t believe it. :-)))

Oppo needs to make it over across the sea very soon, what with all the talk of it. Though I have decided to have no more dark chocolate (continuing saga) in the house for a few weeks as a tiny piece is sneaking in all the time so not sure another sweet tasting thing however healthy is good.

The French yoghurt which becomes British over night hee heeeee. Wonder how long we have to wait before it goes Greek ;-)))

Hey

You have my sympathy as I went through a phase of losing quite a lot of hair in my big dose steroid days it is so disconcerting. I have also lost hair on previous low cal diets. The diet hair loss is often related to low protein intake so do check what you are eating. It does grow back! Also I was quite upset by it all but in fact no one else noticed even when I lost a lot.

Hope this helps

I’m not sure gone off milk is quite the same Frog, LOL!

I too want to know what this OPPO is. It is some sort of ice cream?

HI Kando, I cannot comment on inulin as I decided not to try it. I saw the programme with Angela Rippon and what was most surprising to me was that was the only ‘solution’ she gave for visceral fat was inulin and no mention of the BSD food plan which attacks the same issue.
I bought a set of Tanita Scale’s a couple of years ago when I needed to replace existing scales. I bought them mainly for the visceral fat readings having seen few programmes by MM than mentioned the dangers of visceral fat. I weighed myself at the time of day they recommend plus the time of day I prefer (first thing in the morning) and in both cases it gave me a reading of 12. According to their information, I was ‘ok’ for visceral fat – above 12 and I have too much – so very much on the cusp. I have put on more weight since then and noted that my waist was getting disproportionately larger than my hips; the reading was never higher than 12. Once I saw I was not over 12 I assumed I did not have an issue with visceral fat – my mistake!
At the beginning of February I had just read the BSD book and taken a BS reading only to find I was just under being classified as ‘pre-diabetic’! Over the next 8 weeks my BS dropped to the low 5’s (normal range) and the reading dropped to 10. It has got as low as 9.5, but not lower despite me losing over 20kg and losing 23.5 cm from my waist. I have no idea what exactly it is measuring and how it does it, so cannot comment on the accuracy or what level is ‘safe’ as it only ever mentions the ’12’ is the cut off for ‘safe’ to ‘dangerous’. Sorry I cannot give you better information, but from my experience I would concentrate on your BS readings and waist measurements as I don’t believe Tanita’s measure is particularly sensitive.

Woohoo just googled it I have downloaded a voucher, and AMAZINGLY they sell it in the coop, my village has the largest and apparently most profitable coop in the country, hence why it’s still there, everyone really dislikes it as it’s usually about 10-20 % more than anywhere else. We was supposed to get wait rose, but that went to another village by mistake. Mind you I’m a aldi/Lidl girl, I love saving money on delicious food, their fruit and veg is always über fresh, as it always sells out everyday.
But back to the ice cream what’s the count on it. Carbs and cals. Anyone know. I’m typing fast this is the old Jan thinking about her food fix ooh ooh bad👹👹👹👹👹👹👹 get back in that box.
In the voice of Yoda MINDFUL I AM TODAY. , and the little pixie on my shoulder says in the other ear about ***** time.

Hey, I’ve just joined BSD and this forum seems like a really good idea!

My reasons to be happy and positive
1) Introduced more people to Oppo Ice Cream and they loved it! (Its a healthy ice cream!)
2) Got a big well done when I arrived at work this morning
3) I got my workout in before work this morning

Hi Wendy George, thanks for replying. I have been anaemic in the past (women’s problems) and did think it may be linked. Ill see if I can improve my iron intake somehow! I was vegetarian for a while but have had to introduce a little meat back purely to fill me up. I’m going to get my hair cut to a chin length bob in the hope that this may help.

Marriott often do short term offers at Christmas time – I once had a Christmas at home, went to the gym every day and lost weight over the break. From memory about £12 for a week or ten days.

City of London has a great scheme at the Golden Lane gym at Barbican – if you’re over 50, it’s £45 a year (less if you actually live in city of London borough) and includes several free gym sessions a week, swimming and gentle aerobics (where everyone else is over 50, rather than trying to keep up with a bunch of lycra clad 20 somethings) – and using the gym at weekends and times of the week that aren’t “young at heart” sessions costs £1.50.

Hold up a mo I’ve gone through dozens of posts, what’s oppo it sounds very important, quick tell me someone , dont know how any of you find time to eat you chat so much hehe, please enlighten me I get that it’s some kind of ice cream, please tell me more.🤔🤔🤔

on the yoghurt front, there’s always forgetting to put the milk back in the fridge when you go out in the morning.

I didn’t try it, but got home to a solid half bottle last night – there’s a level of logic that says that yoghurt/curd cheese etc is the same thing, but on the other hand – YUK

Love your responses to Oppo!! Sent them round the rest of the team here and they were so pleased! We are going to try a sort an special offer or voucher out for all BSDers so keep spreading the word!

On day 3 and not sure about the no-carb Bircher..

Funnily enough I used to be a member of my local hotel gym/pool but left because of the price and because they didn’t have the right equipment to do deadlifts and squats. I joined a monkey gym full or roiders instead.

But yesterday when I was with my kids at the same said hotel for their swimming lessons, and it turns out they’ve lowered their prices and got in proper barbells! I’ll defo be rejoining there after my hols.

Hi leeanne
My daughter has been having a lot of hair loss (not on this diet) and has been told by the doc that most lightly reason is iron deficiency. She had also had her bloods done but because the range of “normal” is so large nobody picked up on it. He said the range is from 10-300 and hers were 20,pretty low! But it came back normal.
Hope this helps and u get it sorted.
Wendy

You said the last time you weighed that much was 2017! 😉

It couldn’t be simpler. Buy one of the yoghurt sachets (I’ve got 165g ones). Pour the sachet into the container and half fill with water. Put the lid on and shake until it’s dissolved. Top it up with water to the top and put the lid back on. Fill up the outer container (the big red one) with just boiled water to the top of the red insert. Pop in your container, close the lid. Leave! After 8 to 12 hours it will be set.

You can eat it straight away but it’s more like French yoghurt. If you chill it overnight it becomes more like British yoghurt.

This method involves repeatedly buying culture sachets, but I’m planning on trying to just use one culture and carry on making it with milk without having to buy more cultures. I’ll report back on how I get on!

What do you mean time traveller, and well done you it seems it’s the exercise that is making the difference for you, I still other than the occasional walk are not getting into any regular exercise yet, so perhaps I will do something about that this week. Wishing you a excellent week
Regards
Jan😎😎😎

Hi Timmy
I’m queue jumping here as a forum stalker!!! Please can you share how you make your yoghurt I have an easi yo but in the past have bought the packet mixes . Would love to make my own.Thanks

Ignore the ignorant cyber warriors Jan, and well done on your progress. By the way, are you a time traveller from the future? 😉

Might try this tomorrow. Cheers for the heads up.

I can recommend the steak with red wine and creme fraiche sauce. I threw in a few thinly sliced chestnut mushrooms too. I’m having it again tonight. AMAZING!

Only problem is my kids love it too, so every time I have it, it costs a bloody fortune!

Well week three in the bag, only lost half a pound making it 23.3 lbs 10.86 kilos in three weeks, feeling very very well, sleeping well and feeling so alive as opposed to the dead feeling I had only three weeks ago before this plan.
I have to admit this week got sloppy with planning and measuring, and put on 2 lbs mid week, but they have gone, and I am now scrupulous with planning and measuring now.
I have always loved curries and I made one mid week, and was overwhelmed what a difference one onion makes in carbs phew, so delighted to have myfitnesspal to use to count everything. Mind you I really made a big mistake by joining the myfitnesspal community blog, I was bullied out by so many aggressively ignorant individuals, apparently I am an anorexic. Moi I don’t think so, I have never eaten and enjoyed my food so much as now. Does an anorexic have 150g strawberries and 50g full fat frage yog for their supper, because they have a few cals left, and they have been excellent all day I don’t think so.
Oh yes I have also lost 22.5 c.m from my body, which is 8 3/4 inches so of to have some more gorgeous strawberries and frage, and then have a look in the wardrobe and see if there is anything new I can get into that hasn’t fitted me for the past nine years. The last time I was this weight was in 2017. Two major illnesses really tipped the balance towards, enormous weight increase and total loss of wellbeing.
I love my weigh in Wednesday’s, but I always get so emotional, to have felt so poorly, to so quickly turn it around, using such simple natural tools. The world needs to know about this. But I fear it will be many years before real change happens. Anyway we have found it and are on plan, and rebooting our appetite control. As Ghandi said ” Be the change in the world that you wish to see”
Go for it BSD peeps be that change, let’s do it together.

What have I missed?

Went to the outlaws at the weekend. Their diet is fairly healthy/med orientated anyway, so eating clean was easy. Apart from when me and the missus went out for a meal for our anniversary. Couple of pints before food then deep fried brie to start, fillet steak with sautéed potatoes, washed down with a bottle of Tinto all polished off with a large brandy. Damn it was good! Plus it didn’t really affect my weight! Far too much alcohol and sat fat though.

Still onwards and upwards. Still ruining myself in the gym and the pool and with just under 2 weeks to go until holiday I’m being like an angel now. I want to hit 87kg by the time I leave. 3.5k to go!!

By the way Janey, I know you’ve been struggling with yoghurt. We started making our own after the weekend using an EasiYo. SOOO simple to make and damn tasty too.

We are all going to have an amazing BSD week I can feel it in my bones.😇😇😇

Can we come out from under the table yet Lucky??

Josie – that cake is the biz, eh?!

So far my day has started with me cooking vindaloo Madhair Jaffers style (aka ‘faff style’ Tokyo!). Friend coming for tea tonight so I’ve got it slow cooking all day the house will smell like a Goan Gastropub by this evening!!

Hello all,
After losing over 2st in my first 8 weeks, I’m now on week 21 with a little bit more of a varied diet but still within roughly 1000 cals. My problem is hair loss!
I’ve got shoulder length hair, not dyed or treated in any way. However it’s starting to fall out at an alarming rate! In the shower every day I get what looks like 50 strands in my hand then daily i’m having to clean my hairbrush. My bloods are all fine so I’m sure there’s no underlying illness. I’m 51 but have read that it’s not really affected by the menopause, which i’m heading for.Any other ladies or gents noticed hair loss?

that’s interesting Annais – I have some in the cupboard, but have never got round to trying them, most posters have been quite negative. I’ve been using up some dhansak sauce which was in the fridge, which has been delicious, and actually had small portions of rice the last couple of days (still within 50g of carbs) – I will try the konjak stuff!!!

Morning Izzy
your loft sounds brilliant!
I’ve never had pickled egg – are they vinigary?

I had a bad weekend – diet abandoned for a couple of days, put on 1.5k!!! it was stupidly one of those “well I had that, so having X doesnt really matter’ approaches – not very mindful. or sensible
BUT a couple of sensible days on Monday and Tuessday and I’ve lost that and a bit more, which is encouraging – not that I’m planning to use that as a model going forward.
– and I’ve lost 10% of my start weight – not ‘nearly’ – actually got there at last.
No more blips for a while.

Good luck to you and your Mum!
She sounds a lot easier than my Dad, whom I spent several years trying to eat a more ‘diabetic friendly ‘ diet.
He refused wholemeal, but I did get him eating that 50/50 bread, because I’d read that it was lower GI – all went well until he had a cataract operation. Once he could read the label he said he didn’t like it, and wouldn’t eat it anymore.

I’m waiting to clear a space in the freezer (so that I’m not tempted to eat the whole tub) after trying a couple of local waitroses, I did find that the Store Finder section on the website is good to use (I’ve had experience with other products where it simply gave all branches of a chain, whether or not that particular item stocked it, this doesn’t seem to do that).
Also, I had a problem with not getting the discount voucher emailed through after completing my details on the site, so I emailed them and they emailed one back.
I’m soooo looking forward to trying this

runforfun – must be tempting working with it all day – which is your favourite?
It’ll definitely be the salted caramel that I try – I don’t like mint flavoured anything.

alls well, just had a mid week weigh stayed the same result for me. Hope all is well with you Tokyo. Made the Olive oil cake courtesy of Nigella, looks like cake tastes like cake

Well done Helsbels and Mum – what great results for you both and such inspiration!

Thank you so much for posting. I think wherever you are on this journey – Type 2 or not, other issues or not, lots to lose or not – your story couldn’t fail to inspire!

Tell your Mum, won’t you – congratulations! 🙂

morning
hope all well ?

morning 🙂

Well I got my loft re-arranged a little. Fixed the shelves down properly and finished the easel so it all just needs tidied up and properly organised, which will become easier once my foam board comes and I make drawers 🙂

However when I went to bed I couldn’t sleep so I ended up watching a movie and then still couldn’t sleep and it was 0100 at least before I was sleeping but never mind. Here we are in another day. My husband is on late shifts for the next 3 nights, so I can be up in the loft every night once the kids are in bed and get it all sorted and try to go to bed early as well.

food today, normal breakfast shake, pickled eggs for lunch, hunters chicken for dinner.

Back later gotta go 🙂

Thanks Matty – good to know that it is possible to continue losing weight, but as we both know slower than anticipated. I was so excited when I read the book, reading the stories of people losing 3-4 kg in one week! I have another 4kg to move off so will chip away week by week. Already seeing the benefits of just 2kg in my clothing.
Well done to you and your 10kg so far !

+1 from me on everything Linda says.

I’m half way through week two here in the ACT and really happy with the BSD800.

For anyone thinking of trying the Slendier Konjac noodles – I bought the ‘spaghetti’ ones, mainly because they were the one my local Supabarn had in stock, and was really pleased to find there were two separate pouches in each packet. I have tried them in stir-fry last week (they smelled a bit fishy when I opened the packet – rinse well and soak in boiling water before use!) and last night I had them in a laksa. I know they’re not to everyone’s taste but they worked for me in both recipes and there were no complaints from the family!

I’m a bit concerned about plateauing weight loss because I know I can’t keep losing it at the rate I am at the moment (5kg in the last week and a half) but I am telling myself I had a lot to lose. What has been the experience of others?

Good luck to everyone – new starters and old timers.

🙂

Yes I have been on thyroid meds for 6yrs, I had gain 10kg by the time they diagnosed it and now I added 12kg in past 6yrs so a grand total of 22kg to loose. I have been on the diet strictly for the 8wks and lost 6kg and it has seemed so much slower then I thought I would (hoped to loose 10-12kg in those 8wks), but my measurements decreased more rapidly, I have dropped 2 sizes pleased to say I have now lost 10kg, and my activity increase has helped the thyroid I feel. Don’t get disheartened stick with it and Keep moving . Goodluck