Ooh, I have had a bit of a mad Cinderella moment. I can now wrap a bath sheet around my body, without flashing my bits at anyone!

I’ve moved to 5:2 after losing sufficient weight to take me into ‘healthy’ mode, ie below BMI 25. I have no straightforward carbs, fairly sensible 3 meals, no snacks for 5 days, some wine though! And for 2 days 800 cals as before . And I’ve maintained my weight loss for 5 or 6 weeks so far. So it can be done, but I know I’ve slowly crept up before, so will be vigilant. Not struggling so far though, just in from Italian meal and resisted carbs and pudding without (too many) regrets!

Karen yes, that’s who he based the Karen in Man Down on, isn’t it? The banter between those two is fab. The bit in back of my mum’s head at the end when he said about the foofoo after giving birth ‘Looks like someone’s taken an axe to it’ was it? Or something like that, I couldn’t breathe for laughing.

Yeah tomorrow, won’t be too exciting, it’s going to be something between half a pound and two pounds for the week if I’m lucky, but that’s ok and if around the two pound mark, that’s acceptable anyway. Just after pulling in a 5 pounder last week I’ve been spoiled 🙂 I’m lacking in Cinderella at the moment, I’ve got a load of things way too small that I’m going to lose a fair bit more to get in. I do have things that fit me anyway (stretchy things) but like a glove (sticking out in five places) so maybe it’s a case of trying those on to see if they look better on me?

Hehe re Lucky Man!.have got that Verve song going round my head now!
Oh what a great thing to collect! Will always think of you now when i see them waving in my local chippy and chinese restaurants..we have lots of them in Liverpool as we have a Chinatown!
I’ m glad theyre bringing you good luck! X

the funniest bit he does is firing cheeseballs when he talks about a girl pupil( karen powell) that goes out of the wrong door and ends up in a cupboard !!! even writing it i laugh remembering it !!!
he truly does require stalking !!!!
weigh in tomorrow lucky ? heres hoping for a good loss that cinderella moment coming soon you havent had one in ages ?

You’ll need matchsticks for your eyes Yowzer lol. You’ll still be there at 3 saying ‘Last one? One more?’ There’s not many things I could watch over and over and over, but Man Down is one of them. Friends. And Inbetweeners. Never get tired of them 🙂 I haven’t had alcohol for about 9 or 10 weeks, I’m too scared! One, that I’m going to end up mullered on one glass, and two, that I’ll end up eating my body weight in crisps. Ha.

GREEN JANET, i am a gal not a guy! I haven’t put that on my profile,so will do so now x

I collect Maneki Neko which are the waving cats you see in Chinese restaurants and shops. I’ve been extraordinarily lucky since I’ve started collecting them. So… Lucky Maneki! I was panicking at first that people would think I was a bloke, a Lucky Man called Eki! Hahaha 😉

LUCKY i’ m still here! Halfwatching First Dates! Starting my marathon” man down” at ten pm with cuppa..wd love a g n t or a glass of wine but hey..who needs it!
TOKYO …my friend got a big disappointment,bought that big bag of MS 80 cals popcorn,rushed home beside herself with joy..all that popcorn for 80 cals..then the disappointment when she realised there were six small bags inside,all 80 cals each.😶😶
Oh you are a star avoiding all those goodies,you deserve a medal,that was very valiant! X
Wd you folks mind going to my ‘ how did you choose yr username’ thing ( i never know if they are posts,topics,forums or threads! ) and tell me how you got yr name? X

I Like it EGGBOT! Makes me smile:) x

OMG FROG…same here..DDs pusscat Ziggy Stardust had cystitis last week and yes a v expensive trip to the vets plus now on an expensive food,which he is scoffing like mad coz he must think its gorgeous!
I love watching cats play ..so entertaining…and such mysterious beautiful creatures too.
We cant help spoiling them,Frog…they are just so precious and give so much happiness xx

Yayyyyyyy Tokyo, well done! That’s one hell of an avoidance, millionaires shortbread, wonder if we could make that with chickpea flour???? Lol. And guess what I’ve just eaten? Salted popcorn! Bought a bag in Asda so I had half a portion 65 calories, nearly filled a plastic bowl, fair play.

I haven’t seen him live but I’ve seen the DVD’s. Did find Firing Cheeseballs a bit funnier than Back of My Mum’s head.

I think Yowzer must be enjoying series 1, she’s been awol for an hour now… 🙂 Yep, I think Janey may have had a dalliance, but she is child free and one must make the most of child free… er… time. Can’t blame her. At all. Hehe.

Mine is named after a Clangers episode called “I am the eggbot”. A little nostalgia mixed with a Beetles reference 🙂

Thanks both 🙂
Jan, re. username …. I guess I’d better reply to Yowser’s post about that!

right now as the official stalker of mr greg davies i will ex communicte anyone who does not laugh of this whole hunk of loving !!!! (JOKE)
janey do i need to know you may have had a whole hunk of loving or was that just my mind !!!!
lucky how can we describe a man who can make you laugh simply by telling stories why his friends have the nicknames they do !!! he is and i say this with good authority the funniest man i have seen live !! and i have seen a few
i have had a bag if salted popcorn tonight guilt free from good old m and s 80 cals for the bag i only had half and 3.5 carbs so i little treat !!
i too feel like i could pig out todays avoidance at work was a box thorntons chocolates, a big cream cake , a buffet containing all sorts from fruit and salad to chocolate cakes muffins brownies millionaires shortbread !!!! I REFUSED IT ALL!!!!!!!

Oh Yowser I am on day 30 so a few ahead of you, we are the miss julys or you may be a mr not sure with these nicknames, interesting to know what they all mean, being the nosy person I am, and eggbot well what would one surmise from that name oooo er think I better stop while I’m ahead hehe.

Like any diet of eating plan, whether you lose or gain weight, or stay stable will depend on what you eat!
If you eat sensibly on the five days and fast on two, you probably will lose weight.
If you stuff yourself stupid on the non fasting days, you’re less likely to.
I know, I’ve done it!

Never mind eggbot enjoy your hol and keep on thinking about the plan and try and make good choices. Post when you return. Have a lovel hol
Love Jan

Hi EGGBOT..i am a july starter too! Halfway thru week 3!
Enjoy yr hols and report back on yr return! X

My cat is called Froglet (aka Miss Frog, and Frog)
The name came from her kitten behaviour, frequently sitting next to a toy for ages, then ‘catching it’ by jumping really high in the air, and also having mad spurts of running up and down the flat from one end to the other, and finishing off by climbing up her scratching post – in reality a floor to ceiling column that has the first four feet covered in sisal – so Froglet as in ‘mad as a box of Frogs’
She still has the occasional mad spurt, but less often as she’s four now.

Frog wasn’t very well this week, she had feline cystitis, probably from getting dehydrated when it was very hot. She is better now, after an expensive trip to the vet, but still being spoiled rotten.

ouch – the rash sounds painful Yowzer – have you tried anti histamine to stop the itching?
Thanks for the encouragement SunnyB – but I’m 9 or 10 weeks in, and I’ve never consumed so much veg or water in my life!
Oh well, it’s not THAT bad – jut irritating!

There’s a personal training gym nearby that always has giant before and after photo ads, with X lost Y in 12 weeks type of slogan.
I have considered it in the past, but it’s rumoured to be incredibly expensive, which is kind of backed up by not having any prices on the website, also I’ve never been clear about whether exercise and diet based on normal food, or lots of supplements.
I read some of the posters when I walked past this evening – claims of 2 stone in 12 weeks, six inches off from someone’s waist in 12 weeks, etc – so good, but no more than people are achieving with BSD.
So – all that money saved towards new clothes!

I have an airfryer too, use it for chips, veggie burgers, frittatas. People are saying that fat is not the enemy – that’s perfectly fine and I agree totally with that, but I’m doing the BSD Fast 800, and 100 ml of olive oil is 800 cal, 120 gm butter is 800 cals, 200 gms cheese in 800 cals, so I can’t really go overboard on the fat until my 8 weeks are over

ZIGGY ..sorry you are right..i didnt put that well at all..
no need to be so severe Forkers! i know several people on the fast day forum who have lost weight on 5:2 and are now maintaining by still doing 2 fasts a week for the supposed health benefits ( not totally proven yet) plus eating freely on their other days but not going overboard…and i should have added that some peeps also maintain by doing 6:1 or only eating in a ‘ window’ of time each day ..for example just eating in a four hour window,say 5 pm-9pm,which generally means the cal count is kept lower but they eat pretty much whatever they want without going crazy ( tho in my case, i can eat a very large amount of food in 4 hrs!) xx

Friday 29 July 2016

Breakfast: NONE

Lunch: 11:00
Leftover chicken stir fry from last night

SNACK: 1:30
3 Celery Stalks with Babaganoush
1 Cup Greek Yogurt with fresh blackberries
2 large Peach

SNACK: 4:30
1 Cup Flax Milk with 3 tablespoon flax seed powder

Dinner: 6:30
Minute Steak with 1 cup of lentils

I ate the celery stalks and then 10 minutes later still hungry and ate the yogurt with berries. I ate earlier since I was on the road to the lake house. I stopped at Price Chopper instead of Aldi. I got a few things to munch on the weekend. I think I was eating too much when I really am thirsty. So, I am off to drink up the water for the day.

I had 3 servings of fruit today. One too many. Tomorrow is another day….. Isn’t that a movie????

Stud, PrincetonianStud

Hi Ziggy
I am doing the med diet. Enjoying it and feeling fantastic but as posted a bit worried about a maintenance plan.

Maybe the sugar gremlins are disappearing your posts sunshine-girl.
It is not uncommon for type 2s to have hypos, that is under 4 or lower. Through low carbing and exercise etc. I take it from your posts that you test regularly too. They only gave me the means to test my blood for 2 years and then NICE decided that allowing Type 2s to test their own BGs and take control would cause them too much stress, so they withdrew access to testing strips.
I had a funny experience last week, when I went for a 5K run/jog in 28 degree heat without having eaten, and felt very faint and dizzy when I got home for some hours, have a BP monitor at home and my BP was borderline Hypotension,and I would bet that I was Hypo BG too.

I’ve kinda strayed off the path but here’s a summary of my July on/off the bsd and some things I’ve learned along the way.

Week 1 – fantastic. A real boost to see the weight going down every day. A bit jittery on day three but otherwise all good. 5lbs lost.

Week 2 – I continued to weigh every day which may have been a mistake for me as the weight loss stopped. Looking on the forum this is common at some point during the 8 weeks so with hindsight I should have stuck at it!! A few slip ups. Ok, a lot of slip ups.

Week 3-4 – oops. Off the wagon… snacks, wine, etc… but meals were still BSD-style in the main as I actually do prefer these now. On the plus side I didn’t gain back the weight lost in the first week. Off on holiday for a week where I’ll stick to the med style eating and will restart BSD in a week. Hope all the other July starters are doing ok and good luck for the next 4 weeks.

I’ m fascinated by user names and am always interested in where the name comes from!
My name Yowzer comes from a Frank Zappa song where he shouts Yowzer yowzer yowzer in the middle!
49 is the year i was born..and practically my waist size! 😀😀😀
How about you? X

The 5:2 is a weight loss diet too – so it is not a maintenance diet.

Well, when I did the 5:2 last year, that was 600 cals on fast days for a man, the maintenance plan for anyone who had reached thier target using 5:2, was to do a 6:1 diet – one day fasting each week.

You say you are not doing the 5:2, so is it the Fast 800 or the Med diet you are doing?

Awwwwww brilliant, let me know what you think of it, we were hooked from episode one! It’s good to see the characters develop too over the course of the show. Well, it’s a good job you made it in the first place, isn’t it, or you wouldn’t be sat now ready to watch it from the start! 😉 I’m jealous, hubby is watching his team play in the Challenge cup so it’s book and forum for me tonight!

Congrats on getting to week eight and now ready to plan yr future! I think you’ ll be fine if you do 5:2 properly forkers x
Keep to the 500 cals on fast n repair days and keep them low carb
On non fast days keep to yr TDEE or around it most days..perhaps go well over it but only occasionally to mix things up and keep yr body guessing! Dont make the schoolboy error of overeating on non fast days ( i was v bad at doing that!) you will be so sorry if you regain after going thru BSD for eight weeks!

3 under 3? Sheeesh, bless her. Hard work! Definitely agree about being on this plan though. You’ve got to be so on the ball, hence why I’m so stressy about going away camping. I can’t just grab a packet of crisps, or a sausage roll or a chocolate bar on the hop like I used to. The longer we do it the more tricks we have up our sleeves though.

It is really interesting, I haven’t seen anyone come across as unhelpful or judgemental either. Even though, if you think long and hard about it, we’re quite a diverse bunch really. There’s those who are doing it for the reason it was devised – diabetes. There’s those who are doing it because of the very wonderful ‘side effect’ of the diet – weight loss. Some are doing it for both reasons. Some are doing it because they don’t want to become diabetic. Those who are losing weight are varying from needing to lose half their body weight – plus in some cases (mine lol) to wanting to lose that stone that they’ve never been able to shift. Some are just counting the calories and sticking to the allowed foods, others are doing that and counting the carbs. But nobody is needing to be ‘right’ because there is no right way to do it. All we can do is share what works for us, and hope that it helps and resonates with others. We’re all just taking each other at face value, and it’s lovely. The laughter is another, very welcome, side effect of the BSD. What’s said on this thread might not be everyone’s cup of tea, sometimes a bit risque, and there’s a fair few of us who are a fan of the double entendre… there are other threads. But how boring would this be without a bit of laughter and camaraderie? Eating 800 calories a day with no support? How many of us would have made it past the first fortnight?

I’ve got a Jawbone UP2, as has Janey, Eps, and Tokyo’s is on its way. They’re 30 quid – ish on Amazon at the moment compared to £90 in Argos. I think John Lewis and Currys/PC World were about £80 when I last look, and even back in December when I had mine for Christmas he paid £60 for it. It seems the software only works with i-things and very new Android devices. Mine’s on iPad and hubby’s is on iPod. I know they’re all good in their own way, but I can only speak about what I know, and it does enough for me. My friend’s measures her heartrate and all sorts of tat, I actively avoid anything that raises my heartrate so that renders that use null and void 😉 It tracks your weight, your sleep, tells you how much deep/light sleep you have, tracks your steps, you can input any exercise you do, if you forget it will ask you if you were active between x and y, it gives you hints, you can track your food on it, or link it to your MFP account, there’s probably more that it does but that is enough info for me for now 😉

You do indeed Yowzer! And that wasn’t even one of the funniest last night. I can’t wait to start watching them again. The ones with Rik Mayall were tear inducingly funny. Such a shame he passed.

19 days and 18 lbs – wow almost 1lb per day on the button! Kudos!

JAN as a newbie ive already noticed that. A lovely vibe on here!
LUCKY! Thanks i have episode one series one all ready to go! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 use up some calories laughing😀 X
Ps thanks guys for not drumming me out for my shocking GD faux pas! X

Well that worked. Ziggy you asked about my hypo, I had one about 18 mth ago for absolutely no reason, that is when I was sent to see the dietician who put me on the high carb diet. Since starting this diet I have had a couple of quite low readings but have kept a careful eye and always have something around to eat fairly quickly. So no real problems now.

Hi all,
Has anybody moved from the 800 to 5:2 after the 8 weeks?
The burning question is WILL I PUT WEIGHT ON?
This week has been week 8 and it’s all gonna bit wrong, I have allowed myself to eat normally at wknds because I’m not a diet robot and have lost 2-3 inches.
Not sure about lbs as I don’t have scales but I’m concerned that going to 5:2 and only counting calories on 2 days is going to make me put on weight.
Any experience anyone’s had would be a great help as I’m stressed!

Well, I don’t believe it. Just answered a post on Glucose Test and it has disappeared. This is the second time that has happened in the last 2 days. I will see if this posts.

So true Yowser. We need to wish the same for all

Lucky wanted to ask you which jawbone have you got

I know I’ve said this before today, but everyone on this forum is especially non judgemental, it’s quite a phenomena, I have worked in health and all sorts, and this is the only place I have observed equanimity to everyone. Ooh I’m getting emotional again, it’s probably the shock of this old girl sticking to a eating plan for 30 days in a row. Happy evening all, it’s a lovely evening where I am, sipping tea listening to the birds.☕️🐤🐦🐧🐔☕️

Thanks for that LUCKY..i have lots of telly treats in store! Had seen it advertised but had no idea it was so funny til last night! X

Yea my sister twelve years younger than me has four kids, 3 under 3 and an odd one, and she’s a good cook out of budgeting necessity, I don’t know how you could do this plan without being useful in the kitchen.

Won’t have learnt anything? I’d say I’ve learned more following this plan than I have on any other plan I’ve followed.

Is it salted Janey? If so you can have a handful.

Pfffffffffft @ MFP forum. Who needs them when we have this? Just use their app for the calories and come and do your chatting here instead 🙂 We’re funnier anyway 😉

That is it’s official name Jan lol. Food that you’re meant to burn 😉 It’s also good on pork steaks, but you do have to cook it in olive oil. I made the mistake once of putting them on a George Foreman Grill and they were shocking. The spices formed a dry crust lol. I suppose you could also mix the spices in olive oil and marinate the meat to the same effect. Just force of habit now. Just blast on high heat on both sides so you get the charred black lines on the meat, then in the oven for 20 ish minutes depending how thick they are. Careful on the cayenne though if you’re not a spice lover, the hotter the better in this house!

I was a shocking cook until about 2002 when we got our first computer. I’d just about got to the stage where I could cook a curry with a jar sauce. One day I thought ‘Sod it’. World’s largest recipe book at my fingertips. I was going to teach myself to cook. The first thing I made was Coronation Chicken and it was a huge success, so my confidence grew from there. At one point I was pretty bloody militant about it, if I could feasibly make it, I wouldn’t buy it. But I was making work for myself in the end with four children. I’m quite a good cook now, I must say.

Remind me never to enter into a MFP forum on that basis!

We are in the cinema. I cannot believe the OH has just bought a big box of POPCORN!!! TOrture 😱

I was just thinking..was in marks foodhall earlier..DD texted to ask me to get her frozen peas..i texted back garden or petit pois..didnt give it another thought til watching the news later.. A doctor in syria talking about no medicine,no bandages,no fresh food. One doctor was living on dried dates. Meanwhile all of them doing their best to heal bodies shattered by bombs. Makes me think,losing weight or not,we shouldnt be complaining,we have access to fresh food of all kinds,24/7, even the poorest of us,even choices to make buying peas! We are so blessed. X

Sounds like the people who blacklisted me from the MFP forum, our hair will fall out did you know, oh and at the end, we won’t have learnt anything so we will put it all back on, pfffffff I’ve come to realise there is only about 20% of people who are experimental enough to take calculated risks. We are not one of the 20% thank goodness.

If you’ve only watched it for the first time the other night, I assume you mean Series 3. C4 have them on 4OD now, so if you’ve any means of watching the first two series, do try. Every series has been brilliantly funny, but also different. The Christmas special after Rik Mayall died and the auntie was introduced was an absolute belter too. I’m planning on binge watching the first two series again soon.

Shame on you… although, pizza is pizza. I might have done the same thing tbh. I love pizza.