Your scales WILL shift eventually weescotty, but great news re the belt!!

With regard to people taking advice, I think it’s a personal decision to take action and if you’re ready, you’re ready, and if you’re not, you’re not. I read a review on Amazon of the Blood Sugar Diet book the other day, and I quote: “boring and not helpful”. There’s no reply to that, is there.

If people ask me, I share, but I usually start by saying “if you want to do this, then do it, but I’m not telling you to do it, and if you’d rather I stopped talking about it, then I will”. At least then, if I get a “no POTATOES!! no PASTA!!! no BREAD!!!!!” response, I can change the subject and not get irritated myself. Just so surprising that people ask “but what CAN you eat????” and there’s not time enough to tell them the whole list……

🙂 🙂 🙂

Liro, so sorry about your friend with the stroke but great news about your brother!
Used to disguise my chickpeas … but love them now … add them to everything i can … complete protein.

I will have to check out the carbs etc. on my Clean.the.fridge Chilli. Bit of lean meat, chickpeas and/or other beans, can tomatoes, and any vegetables in the fridge (non starchy of course) and any color peppers! I just have to remember portion control! 🙂

Up at 3:00 a.m. here and know that in Canada i’m way behind the UK and Australia BSDers … so got some great tips and inspiration from all the forms … checking out “Recent posts” etc.

It’s so great to know that even if we’re not loosing pounds we may be loosing inches … AND reducing the fat around the liver and pancreas.

And thanks for the reminder about gut health and especially the supplements for sore knees Liro ………. quote :
I am working on my gut bacteria at same time after reading a few books on the relationship between depression, obesity and gut bacteria imbalance….hence pro biotics, pre biotics like inulin and green banana flour, and tumeric and magnesium supplements (for sore knees)…..started them about two weeks before this diet and I think they largely responsible in my change in mood to enable me to stick to diet (I am definitely an emotional/stress eater) as I hadn’t changed anything else up to that point. ,,,,,,,, end quote.

Well done Linda re the size 10 jeans!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 I recognise the ‘just can’t quite believe it’ syndrome and the shock when you catch sight of yourself in a mirror.

I can proudly state that I bought a pair of size 8 Zara jeans over the weekend, but found that when I got them home that they weren’t as snug as I’d thought, and I still need to wear a belt as they kept slipping down. :0

Keep on keeping on, everybody! Look forward to seeing the skinny guy getting out from in there, Sumo!

I think my scales have a technical hitch! they have remained stubbornly the same figure for WEEKS. This morning after reading a few posts on different threads I decided to wear a skirt ( usually slop around on trousers/jeans now I’m retired ) and see… I wasn’t sure if it fitted better than last time I wore it but when I went to fasten the belt realised I was trying to use a hole that hadn’t been opened before. Hah! take that scales, things are happening even when they don’t seem to be happening. Great to have somewhere to report this and also encourage others. I mentioned to an older neighbour with Type 2 that there is a way of reducing/coming off meds. But she just kept shaking her head as I gave her a potted explanation so ( a trifle exasperated! ) I left her to her closed mind and more determined than ever not to slip into that rigid mentality as I grow older.

START DATE 29th AUGUST

END OF WEEK 2

WEIGHT NOW: 20 Stone 5 pounds (129)
START WEIGHT: 21 stone 12 pounds (138.8)

LOSS AFTER WEEK 2 : 1 stone 7 1lbs (9.52 KG)

THOUGHTS ON 2 WEEKS

I hav been to pubs, I have had meals out. I go to coffee shops

Yep my lifestyle NOT changed at all

I do not drink, (At the moment !!), do not east bread, have no sugar, no white grain

I don’t count carbs, I am STRICT 800 calories a day

I have drifted away from the set menus but do have ‘quick and easy’ a lot.

I am NOT hungry

My trousers are 1 size smaller, !!!!

The loss (Small or large) every day keeps me going

with Weight watchers I looked at 5 pounds to lose and thought 5-10 weeks, now I think (By this time next week, if i am good, that will be gone !!)

Dont get disillusioned, please dont cheat (It isnt worth it) , but do keep going, it is worth it !!

2 people yesterday said I looked ‘slimmer’ !!! (BONUS)

Good lick everyone

Linda
Thanks will take a look when I get home

Hi Sumo
Can you manage to download a calorie counting app? (I use EasyDietDiary, but a lot of others use My Fitness Pal). It will make your life a whole lot easier to keep track of not just calories but carbs as well.
Linda

One unintended consequence for me is that my tea now tastes creamier. I’ve been making it the same way for 40 years but now I’m actually having to use less milk – weird!

With joy I am writing the final instalment in the “Second 8 week category”!
The day dawns at last and I have got here in one piece.
My plans for walking over 10,000 a day every single day for a week didn’t happen as hoped due to a gum abscess/eruption of a wisdom tooth (WHAT!!! after all these years) and traipsing of to dental appointments , a broken shower and a couple of other incidents that stole my time. However I still managed a few days over the 10,000 step mark.
Final weigh in is 10, 11, 1/4. (26% starting weight loss I think?) I am pleased with that and better still know my taste has changed and healthy eating is “normal ” now. When I look at some goodies that used to call my name and tantalize me ….they no longer do. Some items do of course in which case I am confident if I have a small piece it will no longer cause a downward spitfire spiral which ends up scoffing the whole family sized portion.
The story doesn’t end here though….week by week on a Monday morning the beloved and myself are going to decide whether we will carry on for a further week at a time. He has done really well, lost over 3 stone now and is within 3lb of his green light area on the BMI scale
I still have 5 and a 1/4 pounds to go until I reach my green light area so it will be interesting to see which one of us gets there first.
Hope to be in a new clubhouse soon.

Thanks Igorasusal
Yes, you are right about measuring. I didn’t do it with a tape, but I wish I had, although it was nice to see the clothes getting bigger. I’ve gone from a 16 to a 10 in jeans and I can hardly believe it yet😱. It’s like my mind hasn’t caught up to my new body and I recognise that I’m going to have to be careful and consciously focus on maintaining and not to continue losing.
Cheers
Linda

• Thanks for the replies forgot to add, even though my wife is a sceptic, she took my starting measurements and photo and saved them on her complicated phone, I am sure it can be used to make calls? My waist was 60.5inches, as I said round, not quite as round as tall but not that far off? I am not counting my steps, as I have a dog to walk for an hour each day and have taken up aqua fit twice a week, as my knees are both cream crackered, the aqua fit suites me at the moment until the weight loss makes other exercise less painful, my wife and son are also trying to keep to 800cals but not avoiding the sugary carbs, so an ideal test of the science?
• Just started a note book, thanks for the reminder.
Inside me is a skinny guy trying to get out?

Thanks Lucky and for leaving a comment on my blog. It was uneasy including photos but in the end I thought it would help others.

I hope you feel better soon. I’m also not well, in bed feeling worse for wear.

Good morning fellow over 16ers!
Finally got here!
Oh, the last three weeks have been VERY trying and was really doubting the scales would go any further down (mental image here….me picking up scales and shaking them to see if they were faulty/rattling etc) but in reality they were in fine condition. A few more days later and hey presto a tiny bit more off.
So my official weight is now10 stone 11 and a quarter pound. I started at 15 stone. Hopefully my maths is correct and that makes it a 26% of starting bodyweight loss.
My original goal was to get within the green area of the healthy BMI range but alas am still 5 and a quarter pounds away from the top end of it. I feel strong enough to do another week at a time until I get there.
Off to do a celebratory hoola hoop motion using my old belt

What a great post LindaA 🙂

Well done on your stats, you must be absolutely thrilled 🙂 🙂

I think you covered all the main points BSDers should think about, fab summary. And I would only add – as I’ve done on another thread this morning because I think it’s so important – that anyone here should MEASURE either with a tape measure, or with clothes. (Clothes can be better, because you can never find a tape – or at least I can’t – but you can always find a pair of jeans that you’d love to fit in, but are too tight…..)

Because one of the odd things that does happen is that the weight doesn’t necessarily move but the measurements – particularly on the waist – do. This must be the visceral fat melting away (and being washed out of the body by all the fluid ;)) and since it’s what we’re all here for, what good news is that.

Prepare to have a very different figure than you started with!

Good luck to all 🙂

Hi Sumo
Welcome and congratulations for starting, believe me, one of the hardest things to do is start and you’ve done it and you’re doing phenomenally well. 😀
I reached my goal weight 2 weeks ago after losing 26.9kg over 20 weeks. All of it doing 800 cals per day. Since then I’ve actually struggled to eat much more per day and have lost another 1.4kg in the last 2 weeks!
I’ve decided to continue with not eating sugar as the research that I’ve done indicates that this is what got me obese in the first place and I’m determined not to go back there again. I’m upping my fat, complex carbs and protein consumption, but I’m just not that hungry!
Once you are over the first week, you should find this relatively easy if you stick with the plan.
What helped me was that I weighed, measured and recorded everything I ate and drank.
I drank at least 3 litres of non calorie fluid per day, mostly herbal teas.
I stuck to under 50g of complex carbs per day and stayed well clear of all the simple carbs eg everything white!
I did a minimum of 10,000 steps per day
I ate fat without being afraid of it and kept away from all low fat/lite products.
Most importantly, I read the forum every day and got lots if inspiration from those that came before me.
Good luck and don’t hesitate to ask questions as there is always someone that will help you.
Cheers
Linda

You will never guess….
Me
Of all people
What a surprise.

Oh, I wore my bike tyres out, needed two new ones.

Didn’t think I would ever say that

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Yes,
It was hard at first to get motivated and to move
But
After a few weeks
You actually look forward to doing it and
It becomes easy to do
So you crank it up.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Thanks so much all for taking the time to respond. I am feeling so much better and can see a different perspective. The scales may not be playing ball but I did buy a pair of jeans two sizes smaller than when I started 5 1/2 weeks ago and they fit like a glove so indeed it is onwards and upwards. Thanks again and best wishes for our BSD journey. I am more focused than ever x

If you are up for it, try looking at this website
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

Enter in your details about age, height, weight, activity level, have an educated guess about your body fat percentage, and then try putting 50g of carbs into the target carbs box.

It will then throw out what protein you should be eating in grams and percentage, and also show you your fat target.

You can then put these targets into MyFitnessPal or whatever app you are using.

You may find that your carbs are still too high a percentage of your total calories. Experience here does seem to show that if you keep it to less than 50g of carbs per day, weight loss kicks off.

Hope that helps. It did me. 🙂

Can’t say this too much to everybody – what about THE MEASUREMENTS????

Did you measure before you started, and if you didn’t, have you some jeans or other clothes which fitted you (or were really rather tight on you) which you can now try on now and see how different they are?

The weight loss is very variable – as you know, small losses which hardly seem like anything, no losses at all, how depressing is that?
But the MEASUREMENTS oddly enough seem to still keep going down and if your weight plateaus, you can often see your waist being smaller, clothes feeling looser and indeed sometimes your face looks a bit thinner!!

This certainly happened to me, and I felt very discouraged from time to time but still lost more than 15% of my starting body weight over my own (now finished) BSD journey.

It might also be helpful to look at what your initial target weight loss is – Dr Mosley says aim for 10-15% of starting body weight, so perhaps start at the lower end of that, divide the loss into 8 weeks and see how much that is per week. You can then chart how you’re doing on that measure.

Did I say MEASURE again??? I meant it.
Good luck and onwards and downwards 🙂

Good morning fellow BSD’ers! Huge congrats Gavin, you’ve done so well 🙂 It’s a biggie posting pictures, I know how nervous I was doing it. Well done.

Frog, if I was relying on chopsticks to eat, I wouldn’t have needed the BSD in the first place. Maybe this is a good idea. If I can’t eat it with chopsticks, then I don’t eat. Although, I can just see me impaling steaks onto the chopstick and tearing at it like a wild animal so, there would be ways around this.

I still don’t feel well, I was actually sick last night, and I’m never sick (unless there’s alcohol involved…). My stomach is making noises akin to a bath being drained. I am in pain most days in some way, shape or form and I can handle that, but I cannot handle being ill, at all. At least pain is honest. It is what it is, and it’s constant and it’s the same. I am trying to listen to my body and rest and recover, but it’s very hard when things need doing around you.

Hi all end of my first weekend and the start of a long journey, at 58 it took me a long time to get to this shape, well round is a shape, started at 25s 1/2p weighed this morning after less than 48 hours I have dropped of 7lb, I know most will be fluid and at an high starting weight it will initially fall of quicker, my first ever attempt at a real life changing eating plan, my initial target will be 20s, for knee ops, then to get down to wards 15s, so know real end target yet, where I eventually settle and feel comfortable, will probably be OK, I probably passed through 15s about 40years ago. My doubters, which include my wife, think I have jumped onto the latest dieting fad, only time and effort will tell.
I have been preparing for this for a while and am surprised at how large the meals are in the BSD book, I know I will not stick to the book but it gives reasonable guidance of portion control, what interested me was the science and logic given in the book.
Those that have reached their target our gone beyond the 8 weeks are you still achieving the 800 cal?

Peewee

Just double checked and see you are using MFP app, that’s good. Things on this plan you must doo for health, eat 800 cals a day, not under. Try to keep your carbs under 50, and only eat high not low fat, don’t worry about counting fat, it’s good for you and essential for weight loss. Also don’t worry about counting protein. If you are following the recipes in the book be aware the calorie and carb count of them is sometimes very underestimated. Also count everything calorie wise that you eat and drink. You need to drink at least 3 litres a day, and add a little salt to your food, this will prevent any carb withdrawal symptoms.
If you have suddenly started walking 10,000 steps a day, then that is probably delaying weight loss, so perhaps tone that down a bit and build it up gradually as suggested in the book, over many weeks. You need to be able to enjoy this plan and feel motivated and excited, it’s not a punishment, and when you start enjoying it you will know you are on the right track.
For some it does take a while to get into the swing of it. I spent 5 weeks preparing before I started this diet, so was fully informed and lost immediately. Just be patient, keep going back to the book, and post on here how you are doing. Just shout if you need help, I will follow this thread and I’m always around. There is also captainlynne who has just finished loosing 90lbs and is now at target, she has supported me, and is always willing to assist.
Im sure things will improve for you, just keep a happy mind, be patient, and motivated.
Regards Jan

Hi peewee.
So are you using an app to count

Have a good day Natalie xx

Hi Peewee,

If you’re following the recipes, I’d say no problem as they will have been carefully worked out to ensure you get adequate nutrition.

If you’re adapting your own recipes, then there may be a bit of an imbalance. Your fat percentage is about in line with mine, but I’m adapting my own recipes as I don’t have the book yet, so I wouldn’t rely on my info.

Let’s see if someone who has been doing this for longer comes along with more info.

Hi only just found this thread.
I’m at week 10 plus 5 days, I’ve lost 16.28 kilos, my first surprise was that after 41 years of failing at dieting, I could doo this, and it works marvellously.
I had also been pre diagnosed with SLE a serious potentially life threatening condition, with no cure, and after 5 days my serious symptoms had completely reversed.
I am my doctor and practise nurses surgery Guinea pig, as they are so delighted with the change around in my health by using this plan.
My prediabetic bloods are now normal
My liver function is now normal
Just within 48 hours I felt alive with loads of energy.
Shopping for a week is now just 3 bags instead of 6
I at the age of 58 feel more alive like I am 19 again.
I love this plan, and I know when I took a week of at week 9 for a holiday and ate rubbish carbs, I didn’t really enjoy them, and left me feeling unbelievably unwell, put on 2 kilos, and took me 3 days to reverse the muzzy head, lethargy, and low mood.
This plan is for me a miracle and I love love love it. Thankyou doc m😀😀😀

Morning everyone – here’s my 8 week blog post – https://gavinsgadgets.com/2016/09/12/the-8-week-blood-sugar-diet-just-800-calories-a-day-week-8-the-end-and-whats-next/

Compete with selfies.

Hi bloke41, better to have no heart attacks or strokes if you can avoid them! One of the things that has surprised me about this diet is that I don’t feel like I’m foregoing that much most days (apart from fruit – see end of my weigh-in figures), so I can see this being a long-term way of eating. And the results are definitely motivating, as you say. I always used to find the one pound a week diets depressing – I could see myself dieting for years on end and it rather put me off eventually. OH was talking about how he was impressed with my resolve, but I’ve actually been enjoying it. Especially getting up and feeling ready to tackle the day, and getting a good night’s sleep.

So today’s figures:
85.5kg
– 0.2kg
Overall change – 3 kg

Yesterday’s food and exercise (hangs head in shame)
1013 cals
114 carbs
Two walks with dogs, 20 minutes brisk walk up hill and down dale, 40 minutes stroll via fig trees…

My only excuse is that the fig season is very short. Only had three, but they don’t half pack a calorie and carb punch. I was a bit taken aback by the figures. Also had 15 g of home-grown grapes on my first outing with the dogs. And I had 3/4 of an apple at lunch, as I wasn’t expecting to go fig-picking. So, big sins on the fruit front, but I am showing some willpower, honest. I could have had loads of figs rather than just three, far more grapes (the blackbirds can have the rest), and I could have finished the apple but didn’t. (Feeble excuses and justifications, I know!)

Anyone seen a post by 54fatnomore on another thread that I’ve missed in the last few days? If you’re out there, 54, hope everything is going OK.

Hi Jan think I’m going well very slow though 1week now and 1kg loss not sure if I’m on right track carbs are under protein is ok but fat is high

Hi peewee

How’s it going now.

Regards jan

Morning Frog

Glad I’m not the only one up and at it early. Your reboot is going very well, I’m delighted for you, had you put on weight or just rebooting the interest, do you have much more to loose to get to target.
My reboot started Friday
So day 1 sat. Lost .8 kilo
Day 2 lost .3 kilo
Day 3 today lost .8 kilo
So I have .1 kilo and I am back to my pre hol weight yeaaaaaaa, then I can crack on towards my goal which hopefully I will get near to by Xmas. Working from home today so nice day ahead, how about you. 😊

Morning!
well sort of -I went to bed quite late, so may go back to sleep!

BSD day 5 reboot – 2.7 kilo!!!
day 1 – Lost 0.4 kilos
day 2 – Lost 0.7 kilos
day 3 – Lost 0.5 kilos
day 4 – Lost 0.5 kilos
day 5 – Lost 0.6 kilos

I did have a longish walk yesterday, along the canal to Primrose Hill, but that was with a glass of wine and chocolate ice cream with raspberries sometime around midnight!
If I hadn’t have had glitches and had lost at that rate since I started BSD I’d have lost 65 kilos by now – I wish 🙂

Back on track today!
I have uterine fibroids (painful but not dangerous – surgery to remove in a couple of months) which seem to be making my PMS much worse and/or I think I’m in peri-menopause, so I’m all over the place! But I can’t put weight loss on hold until conditions are perfect, they never will be, at least not for any length of time. Life happens.

Count everything Carl23. 800 calories isn’t a lot and veggies add up. It works though!

Hi Snoop I have been using the fat secret app u suggested my carb intake is about 22% protein 29% and fat 49% should I be worried about fat content being high or am I on right path

Thank you Tizzie for this post. Having one of THOSE days where I overreacted to weight going up today for some reason despite having less than 800 cals yesterday and having not broken the diet in 15 days. I should be still celebrating having BGLs in normal range since day 2. These forums do really help keep perspective when the old doubts re-emerge.

I’m setting off on a journey today to reverse my type 2 and get off blood pressure drugs. Dumped metformin 15 months ago and used 5:2 in an undisciplined way for 12 months. Time to get serious !

It is rare that the scales drop evenly every week, even on such a restricted calorie intake but that doesn’t mean you aren’t losing at all. You will be losing fat fairly consistently on a daily basis but this can be masked by changes in fluid balance.
It’s funny that when we see an unusually big drop in weight we get excited but also expect it to keep on happening and get despondent if it doesn’t. Most of us do this! Just be aware it takes time to even out, sometimes a couple of weeks. The advice is to measure yourself too as this is more representative of fat loss and won’t fluctuate in the same way as weight.
Remember it takes up to 8 weeks for the visceral fat from the pancreas to shift (hence the significance of 8wk bsd.) Loss of visceral fat drives the health benefits. Weight loss is secondary to this and whichever version of the diet you follow it will happen.
This way of eating is for life- not just a quick fix for years of overeating- however fast800 is pretty much the most rapid, healthy way to lose weight I am aware of.
Stop setting long term targets for now and just see what the first 8 weeks brings, then you can be excited by the REAL changes you are seeing/feeling in your body, not some arbitrary number on a scale. At that point you can decide if it’s been worth it and whether you wish to continue.
In the meantime, as Frog suggests, spend time reading some of the forums- everyone’s journey is different and there’s some great advice here. They definitely helped me when I stalled after the first 6 weeks. And I often get upset about how long it’s going to be before I reach my healthy bmi, but then I remember how good I am feeling NOW compared to 3 months ago and how I have already started to enjoy my life for the first time in ages.
I hope you will get the same feeling soon. Good luck.

Welcome to the thread flowerpot. I actually am quite excited to see where we all are in 8 weeks. Usually I am the one who drops out around week 3 but since I started the thread I can’t really do that can I? Where in Aus are you?
Great loss for your first week!

Hi Lucyjane, i’m just starting my second week too. I did ok in my first week, I had lots of blowouts but ended up 2.5kg down amazingly. I Work shift work so I eat at all odd hours of the day and night. I have huge amounts of stairs to run up and down at work during 12 hour shifts, so I think thats what got me over the line. I’m always bloody exhausted by the end of my shifts tho. I drank lots and lots of water and tea and the odd coffee for a treat. I have noticed that cutting out the sugary part of my diet has made me have to go to the loo sooooo much more for number 2s (sorry about that) Maybe thats where my big weight loss has come from because my belly def feels a bit smaller. I see you’re in Aus and so am I. 😀 Keep up the good work, Lucyjane, no-one ever acheived anything great by not trying and maybe even slipping up, but never giving up.
Hugsxx

Well done team. Yes I put kidney beans and chickpeas in my soup. Liro, your post has inspired me yo go on. I am 41 and have 2 young children, and there is a history of heart disease, stroke, diabetes in my family. I hope your friend recovers quickly.

On the good news it is 10:30am and I have already done 5000 steps:-) and made my soup for dinner so now off yo lunch with a friend… Salad. Have wonderful days everyone.

well done everyone.
And Lucyjane remember if you have less to lose then you will lose slower anyway – do yourself a favour and get 2kg of packages from your kitchen and lift them and see how much it really is! your body will thank you for every bit.

I have done 2.9kg. Started at just over 116kg (although I think i said 115kg as i did not want to acknowledge the extra 1kg that had crept on without me noticing! ha) – today was 113.1.kg.

good news – I was talking to my brother last night and he is starting the diet today to do it with me (he has similar amount to lose).

Bad news – got news last night that my oldest and dearest friend in the world had a stroke – she is only 40 with 4 kids. wont know for a few days the effect but i am flying to Sydney next week to help out for a week. so not sure how the diet will fare but will do my best. Noticed i went straight to the fridge after i got the call…but caught myself and took out a few strawberries and olives instead. Wake up call to look after health so precious.

just make vegetable soup Shalimar – leave out the carby pasta!
congratulations on the 10lb, that’s a great start!

Thanks Snoop & Tabletalk, been very trying, though loss of Kg been a good incentive to keep going. I haven’t really been worried about counting the calories or carbs or protein, just been sticking strictly to the recipes. So far it’s working. Always managed to lose all the weight when l wanted in the past, but never was able to retain the loss for greater than a year. I’m hoping this time the bad yoyo trend stops and try to stick to less carb and less sugar lifestyle. I’ve been quite lucky to date, that l haven’t had any health issues in regards to being fat, (knock on wood) just didn’t want to push my luck as I’m getting a tad older these days, and l think l was heading to heart attack/stroke territory. I’m wondering if it’s a result of always being big for majority of my life since a bub and playing a lot of sport. Must admit have felt much more energy in the mornings. Best of luck to all of you.

Thanks for that. It can all be a bit confusing. I’ll follow the recipes in the book and see what happens. I guess over time people start to work out their own meals based on their needs.

It’s highish – don’t eat it all at once!

100 g has 76 cal Carbohydrate 17 g – Sugar 14.8 g

– so if you added 50g to your yogurt would be fine, 100g on the high side carb wise
generally, berries are better than many fruits –
raspberries by comparison 52cal Carbs: 12g (per 100g)

I just added raspberries to low carb ice cream, and 40g was fine.

Best thing is to use one of the online calorie counters (fat secret/my fitness pal, etc) and you’ll soon get a feel for what is BSD friendly

Re: constipation.
Have you tried incorporating Chia seeds to your food? Carbs 0.8g/15g Dietary fibre 4.8g/15g.

tried the almond soy yogurt with cocoa – OK, but not v chocloatey (added a teaspoon of cocoa to 95g of yoghurt) think I will stick to my low carb “intense chocolate” ice cream!

Also as part of the planning did a big shop this morning and bought a mango as it was mentioned in the breakfast yoghurts.

Then I read on another page to avoid mangos due to high sugar???

Confused.com