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  • posted by  Sumo on 'Weigh in' thread
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    One other little victory over the week end, went to a family party where my mother-in-law, bless her, always commented on my size, the first thing she said was, you are losing weight? Yes, I did lose a stone as part of my BSD preparation, so that the food intake was not a total shock, so since she last saw me it has been 2.5 stone
    They had Bread and Butter and Cold meats & cheese separate so you could make your own, just had the meat and cheese.

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on 'Weigh in' thread
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    I ve only lost half a pound in the last twelve days,which surprised me as ive been sticking to the plan like a stamp to a letter. Day 83 and about halfway thru my 24 week plan,but its ok,once i got over the unwelcome surprise,,i’ m into clothes that didnt fit even last week,ive had to put some clothes in the charity shop bag,so i’ m just reflecting on my non scale victories til next weigh in ..just writing this here to encourage anyone down in the dumps coz the scales arent being their friend just now! X
    Well done SUMO! πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½ thats fab! And you have a lovely DIL! I agree re pesky carbs..its a shock how many in some innocent seeming fruits and veg! Always check xx
    Welcome MAGIC BROCCOLI…great name! Good luck with BSD! Let us know how youre getting on x

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on 'Weigh in' thread
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    ANGIEBABE A masssive celebration..that over three pounds a week lost ! πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½
    Celebrate every little victory,weight AND non scale triumphs! You should be very proud of yrself ..youve done really weel..i bet youre getting lots of admiring comments! X

  • posted by  Wendy1947 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Yes Miss Ziggy I have whilst doing 5:2 & as others have mentioned you need to include more salt in your diet whilst drinking lots more water. Try a cup of Bovril as a hot drink. My husband & I are starting BSD today so I will be keeping to having a cup of Bovril today.
    Good luck & I hope your leg cramps go away!

  • posted by  Sumo on 'Weigh in' thread
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    End of week 3 now 23s 8lb a loss of 1.5stones in 3 weeks, all I have to do is keep an eye on the carbs, the calories seem to be OK but those pesky carbs keep hiding in food when you least expect them.
    My Daughter-in-law, knowing I am on the BSD made me a Pear Crumble, uumm I thought, I saved all my carbs for the day and had a small portion, for my evening meal, Oh yum, just checked on my Fitness Pall and not as bad as I thought, I ended up Under Carbs and Calories for the day, bonus.
    It was made with fresh fruit, no added sugar and a very thin crumble with no added sugar.

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Hello :-)
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    MOrning! FROG i left message re Otto Lenghi yesterday, but it just vanished..was just saying,i dont know much about chefs and recipes,but by coincidence,my DD was talking yesterday about OL and saying how he always uses a ton of ingredients…
    good thinking making a five min stir fry,they are always so simple and so delicious.(perhaps i posted elsewhere by mistake!)
    1960 yeh i agree,he sounds like a type of pasta to me! πŸ˜„
    weekends can be very tricky..saturdays and sundays just seem like they should always be treat days..i was in the park yesterday pm thinking how i wd love an oldfashioned high tea with sandwiches and cakes and jelly and cream! But i want to be slimmer and healthier even more! I didnt gain,but i only lost half a pound in the last two weeks,which is a bit measly seeing as havent veeered from 800 cals/ 50 carbs,but these things happen. The body does its own thing! Good luck with reboot,show the medical folk youre doing the right thing! X

  • posted by  shalimar on My 1st ParkRun
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    Great idea!!! Keep on truckin’.

    It’s so nice for the dogs to help out by taking you out for a walk!!

  • posted by  shalimar on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Check out all the pulldown/click tabs on the website … esp. Blood Sugar Diet, Get Started, etc.

    I would buy the 8 week diet book …. excellent to reread for inspiration … and to look up things … keeps you reminded about why and how the BSD diet works, etc.
    I would buy the recipe book … when it comes out in paperback (just a few months away in Canada). There are lots of recipes here on the site and the BSD 8 week book to get started on.

  • posted by  Bissell on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Wow Angiebabe, hardly a ‘mini’ celebration! That’s a fantastic loss! You must be so chuffed! πŸ˜€πŸ‘πŸ˜€

  • posted by  Angiebabe on 'Weigh in' thread
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    So it’s the end of week 18 and 56lbs lost in total so that’s 4 stone in old money so mini celebration. Another 6 lbs and I will be halfway there. Have to stop wishing the weeks away,!

  • posted by  JulesG on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi, I am starting today have basic information from this site and the articles in the Daily Mail last week. I want to buy a book but am not sure which would be the best, the “8 week diet book by Michael Mosley or the Recipe book by his wife, what would you recommend?

  • posted by  Bissell on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    Good to see you back Izzy, I’ve been wondering how you were. Great that you haven’t put on any weight in your absence and that you are hanging on in there. Look forward to seeing how you go.
    Best regards Bissell

  • posted by  Jodes82 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Thanks Jenni from the block!
    The low bsl’s are enough to keep me going! I think organisation is the key and to make time to exercise. It’s easy for me at the moment as it’s school holidays and my son is with his dad for a week. We’ll see how next week goes!

  • posted by  shalimar on Staring tomorrow and I could use a little help.
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    Check out the GET STARTED tab …. above

    Other AVOID FOODS : high sugar fruits … mango, pineapple, banana, juice, pasta (small amounts used in recipes). Check out the RECIPES tab here

    You can eat : small amounts of nuts and seeds, berries (add to high fat yogurt), apple, pear, small amounts of cheese (check the carbs and calories … i found a very low carb goats cheese). eggs, small amounts of bacon, a little chopped ham and onion to make an omelette, Salads, Green and colored vegetables, chicken, fish, meat, avocado

    MY SIMPLE MEAL PLAN

    Good breakfast idea is : eggs in some format (i like making a scrambled egg with a bit of chopped ham and onion)

    Snacks … berries with high fat plain no sugar yogurt, nuts and seeds, lower sugar fruit, sliced cucumber

    Lunches : salads, vegetables, meats, canned tuna or canned salmon, soups made with vegetables, meat of some kind, etc.

    Supper : meat with vegetables or salads or soups or combination

    I don’t cook …. so i usually make a big batch of soup … any and all vegetables … lentils/and or/ beans and/or chicken or other meat …. can make all sorts of combinations

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    I am starting the Fast 800 today for 56 days, and while this is not too different to the diet I have been following, must admit to being a little nervous.

    I have just had a weekend ‘off diet’ on a trip to Cornwall, and my starting weight this morning is 12st 11lb.

    I will only be tracking whole pounds. Will post some measurements tonight, but my goal for this program is to get the waist/height ratio closer to 0.5, and my body fat percentage well below 40%. I would like to lose another two stone before Christmas, to see if I can reach my healthy weight, and get me well on my way to my ultimate goal.

  • Hi Sunshine-girl – yes 6.1 is really good and shows you are well on the way to normal blood sugars.

    Yesterday net carbs 30.28 calories 795 – I didn’t have the square of dark chocolate yesterday or I would have been a bit over but today I can have 2 squares as part of my lunch. I will be sitting in the hairdressers then so will take a little flask of Kefir and that will be lovely.

    Today have lost another half pound – this reboot has really helped me keep on track. Yesterday I had a lovely time sorting out things that are really too big and packing them up for the animal charity shop. Usually I put them in a storage box ready for when the weight comes back – but this time is different – they are already in the bin bags ready to go.

  • The end of week one : weight down 11lbs -BMI 38.4 , waist 2.5 inches smaller and for the last couple of days full of energy . I have been quite surprised at the tastiness of the recipes and haven’t paticularly felt hungry. I have , though, had trouble sleeping and experienced frequent ocular migraines….hoping things get back to normal soon! My hubby who has type 2 has lost 10 lbs and his Sugar levels have reduced to an average of 6.2 …amazing in just a week . How are you all doing ?

  • posted by  Izzy on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    Morning, back again. I’ve not really been well – again, and haven’t really stuck to the rules but on another positive note -again (lot’s of agains) I weigh the same so it’s not too bad.

    I’m thinking of trying to change a few things… not made decisions as yet but I’ll check in later.

    I have been doing lots of painting, which I will get up on my blog soon for you guys to see πŸ™‚

    Gotta get going (Monday Monday aaargh)

  • posted by  shalimar on Staring tomorrow and I could use a little help.
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    Everyone does it differently. check out calories and carbohydrate counts on the internet … you can also check them at MyFatSecret site. You can also check proteins, etc. Most people try to keep carbs under approx. 50. And they avoid simple carbs … white foods like potatoes, rice, breads, cereals, refined foods in general, even go easy on root vegetables.

    Just check the TABS at the top of this website … . the FAQ, the Blood Sugar Diet.

    The Blood Sugar Diet is based on eating a low carbohydrate Mediterranean style diet. This contains few refined, starchy carbohydrates (because these convert rapidly to sugar in your blood), lots of green and coloured vegetables, plenty of protein and, you may be pleased to hear, it also includes moderate amounts of healthy fats such as olive oil and even some dairy products such as full fat unsweetened yoghurt to keep you feeling full for longer.””

    The BSD book isn’t a calorie counter/carb counter except for the recipes.

  • posted by  Formeandyoumum on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Heya Ganga!
    Room for one more not so little one??!

    Just found you, registered and need help and support to do this please! I love starting stuff and am not so hot on finishing anything!

    In my early 40s and as my mum died of kidney failure thru diabetic, so thought it was about time I pulled my finger out and did something before waiting to be diagnosed and then making life changes!

    Starting from today – have the book but not finished it yet

    Brekkie is boiled eggs, fruit for snacks and butternut squash soup for lunch at work – dinner will be chicken and steam veg – without tonnes of garlic bread or loads of potatoes like we normally have!

    I Have a Instapot pressure cooker and a slow cooker so no excuse not to plan ahead and get myself organised – which I’ll start from tonight and get the family involved too,

    Not checked my bsl so will try and get to the chemist goat to get it done- can you still go to lloyds and get it done free?

    Thanks everyone and good luck to us all!!

  • posted by  shalimar on It works for older women too!
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    Planning is key.

    Cleaning out your cupboards is key.

    It is far to easy to slip up if there are simple carbs etc. in the house.

    If i wasnt retired i would also bring BSD foods to work … if there is a staff room even better.

    Age 50 is practically young. 67 myself!! πŸ™‚

  • posted by  1960smp on Hello :-)
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    Morning everyone!!

    Hope Lucky and Gavin are ok – missing their chats

    I Was doing better, then hit the weekend….

    Re booting myself today as seeing Dietician on Weds and need her to not only understand this way of eating is best for me but to show her I CAN actually sustain doing it , otherwise I may as well sack it…if she or any other medical professionals see me jumping in and out I know they will lol

    weight increase of 1.7kg NOT GOOD
    Decided to give the actual meal plan at back of his book a try and see if that will spur me on….was struggling to plan ( believe it or not ) and will tweak where neccessary

    Frog, had to laugh at myself as didn’t know what food a Ottolenghi was, and saw its a cook!!

    Sorry you had a gain Yowzer but press on forward and downwards, it and more will come off!!

  • IDEAS FOR HOW TO HANDLE BEING SICK ON BSD???

    Do far i’ve only had sickness where i just go to bed …. Don’t really feel like eating anything … and if i do … i don’t have ANY simple carbs in the house. If i eat … i eat stuff with no preparation … slice up some cucumber …. add Miracle Whip mayonnaise on a can of tuna or salmon.

    I had to go out and get coffee cream and throat lozenges and i was tempted by crisps/chips … but i looked at the carb/cal counts and decided not too!! Bought some deli chicken instead.

    As for craving salad … i went on a trip to Toronto a few years back …. and i was so craving the green … i found East Side Marios who has unlimited salads …. i spent 3 of my trip there … just scarfing down salads by the ton.

    I had a spoon of honey in tea once. With my sore throat right now … i’m drinking coffee with heavy cream … just keeping my throat coated.

  • Swimming would be great …. i personally am not that good at it … i never like to put my face in the water!! My breat stroke is really funny because my right leg just will not kick properly!!

    Swimming is also great because you can do that high intensity stuff.

    Aquabics is great for me …. because i have eroded discs in my back and foot and knee problems …. and aquabics can be low or even zero impact. And if i keep going to classes i will eventually be fit enough to do high intensity / interval stuff.

  • posted by  shalimar on My Diary
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    WOW!!! You and Mrs. C. are having fun with the results so far …. and cooking up some great stuff!!!

    Love exchanging clothes for SMALLER sizes!

    You guys rock!!!

  • posted by  Nettle on My eight weeks….
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    Well done Lucia

    I guess this gives the word conductor on the bus a whole new meaning. What a hoot, I’d love to ride the bus with you as the wheels on that bus go roundandroundroundandround.

    I am exercising my fingers doing this.
    Nettle.

  • posted by  Jodes82 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hey everyone!
    I’m so flipping excited! I’m on day 3 and my bsl’s have never looked better!!!
    At the moment I’m wondering what took me so long to find this book!! I’ve been in such a lull hating cooking and making really bad choices, but this is amazing! I’m loving the challenge of making something delicious with my 800 calories! I just made myself a beetroot dip with carrot and celery for lunch tomorrow. Is anyone else loving this and not feeling too hard done by?

  • posted by  Jeannie12 on Staring tomorrow and I could use a little help.
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    I am starting Fast 800 tomorrow. I’m waiting fit the book to arrive so I only have a magazine article to go on. It suggests 2 meals of 400 cal each and that’s it. Can anyone tell me what they have found works for them. Have you eaten just 2 meals daily or divided the calories between 3 meals? I’m a little lost without the book and would appreciate any help you can offer. What worked for all of you in the beginning. Anything you would do differently? Thanks for the help!

  • Hang in there Snoop. Historically in past when I fall off the wagon I’ve let it derail me completely. This time needs to be different. After so many failures it’s hard to have faith in the process. Am trying to be positive and concentrate on changing the way I eat. Still haven’t quite managed to stay under 800 cal. Suppose need to plan out and add up the whole day ahead. Don’t really care to do that. Or perhaps at least a short period doing just meal replacements. I’m in the ballpark so not worried yet as down 5 lbs counting my 2prep days.
    Today. 6392 steps
    846 cal
    53 carbs

  • posted by  StaceySmith on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi! Day two – my stomach is growling, but I don’t feel ‘hollow’ and desperate for food! Yay!

    Day one ate:
    Breakfast: Yogurt with rhubard compote – p. 171. OMGOSH! Whole yogurt is Heaven-sent! This was pretty good for no sugar yogurt!
    Lunch: Portobello “toast” w/ goat cheese and pinenuts – p. 173 Okay – yes! Way better than anticipated! Will repeat!
    Dinner: Recipe from my own box – Mexican chicken – which is easy, everyone LOVES it and it fits the bill in every way. Had this with like…3 cups chopped romaine, sour cream and 1/4 cup grated cheddar.

    Day two:
    Breakfast: No-carb muesli – p. 173 Hello, watery yogurt with raisins. This was just so-so.
    Lunch: Chicken with Walnut Lettuce Cups – p. 173. This – was WAY better than anticipated! Sour cream/grainy dijon/lemon. Perfect!
    Dinner: Recipe from my own box – Paleo-type meatloaf, green beans, green salad with Olive oil, Italian spices, salt and pepper.

    Most of the recipes in the book are pretty far out from what I normally eat, because – we don’t do seafood here! If you’d like my Mexican chicken and Meatloaf recipes, reply and I’ll add them!

  • Week 5 done and dusted, went for long walk along east ballina beach with wifey and the pooch 6 this morning, while watching the whales jumping about, pretty awesome for a labour day long weekend. Weigh in result 147.4 kg, waist 146cm, 1.2 kg loss for the week. Start weight 159.9, waist 158cm. Total weight loss to date 12.5kg. Great recipe verano will have to try the sauce freezing thng. Have a great week all. Keep it up!

  • posted by  EmilyJones on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Day 2 is over! I ALMOST caved and had a glass of red wine. What stopped me was a) I would have had to walk 10 minutes to the shop to buy it and am feeling too weak from lack of food to do so πŸ˜… b), as was said up thread, wine= total loss of will power and would lead to a demented carb binge! And c) I did not want to have to come on this forum and admit to falling off the wagon on Day 2! Not that falling off means you cannot get right back on. But I really need this to work.

    So here I am in bed , a bit hungry and grumpy, but pleased to have stuck it out.

    Lunch was some vegetable gyozas which needed to be used up. Dinner was dahl and broccoli.

    So grateful for this supportive community.

    Here’s to Day 3/61

  • posted by  Suze-g on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi all
    Am new to the forum today, have never posted anywhere before.
    Have about three stone to lose and after a visit to the doctors 2 months ago discovered my hba1c was 42, borderline pre diabetes. I decided that i would have to do something about it.
    For two months now have been following the standard low fat high carb dietary recommendations and have lost a stone. A couple of weeks ago i was told about the blood sugar diet and decided that i would give it a go.
    I have tried a few recipes from the book, the red thai curry was scrummy and the halloumi skewers.
    Im due to weigh myself tomorrow (end of week 1) however i had a sneaky stand on the scales tonight and have lost 8lb. I cant quite believe it as i have not been hungry at all and this is not week one of my wt loss journey.
    Going to continue into week two with new enthusiasm
    suze-g

  • posted by  StaceySmith on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi! I don’t know about you, but water is flushing out of my system like crazy! This seems to cause some people to have muscle cramps. To help alleviate them – make sure you are getting some minerals. Get at least 1 tsp. of pink sea salt into your diet – could put it in some of your water. If that doesn’t do the trick – try getting some magnesium as well – CALM magnesium is easy!

  • posted by  Willbeskinny on Hmm, coffee and walnut cake
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    I know, I really always thought I was being so good, buying their own brand products along with copious amounts of grapes and fruit to munch rather than crisps / biscuits of an evening. If I allocated myself Β£ 25 p/wk for WW products it becomes shameful that I didn’t give up sooner. I tried to stick to the points system, but really alarms bells should be ringing when you can carry on eating McDonalds and count it in your daily points, it’s not even promoting healthy eating so small wonder it can’t be stuck to long term. I wonder if anyone has ever looks at diabetic rates in long term WW users??

    I truly hope this works for me, there is so much inspiration on here, along with a couple of pairs of never worn very small jeans in my wardrobe, that is keeping me motivated. I am giggling at this as I type because it’s not even been a week lol.

  • posted by  Frog on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    I have Miss Ziggy – but then I used to get occasional leg cramp pre BSD
    Had something v odd the other evening – was lounging on the sofa, felt a pain in my foot, and noticed that my big toe was sticking up at a 90 degree angle – and I simply couldn’t move it. Continued to get more painful for about 5 minutes – eventually I stood up, and managed to straighten it. Have no idea what it was, or why – hope it doesn’t happen again.

  • posted by  MissZiggy on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi again, Has anyone suffered leg cramps while on this diet? I had the worst headache yesterday all day too. LAst night I was woken with a violent cramping of my leg which made me do a dance around the bedroom at 4 in the morningπŸ˜₯

  • posted by  Respace1 on Rocky start!
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    OK, started the day after a night out which in hindsight was not a sensible choice! And so after 48 hrs of headaches and not knowing which way is up and for a while thinking I had the flu….things have settled thankfully!(thank you water!)
    I’m enjoying the food choices and my hunger has settled but the biggest thing I miss is the vino! Have always been in the realms of Chardonnay and have swapped to red but sticking to one glass is tricky, although I hasten to add I don’t drink every day but every 2-3 days any ideas of things that can fill that 9pm glass of wine gap?
    Enjoying the forum posts and people’s willingness to help/guide/advise it’s incredibly encouraging!😊
    Forgot to say, I’m 42, mother of 2 (3 if you count the husbands outlook on life!!πŸ€”πŸ˜‚)
    My father is type 2 and my body shape/weight is the reason for following the eating plan!😳 Hopefully I can address things before it’s too late!

  • posted by  Billingebabe on It works for older women too!
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    Of course Sazzie but 50 ain’t old. Personally it is the most maneagable diet I have been on but it only works, in my opinion, if you plan. So welcome and keep us updated.

  • posted by  Frog on Target weight
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    Hi Sunshine Girl
    I am on facebook, from when I needed to be for an arts project, but haven’t really used it to post anything to ever – I’ve just never really got why I’d want to be that ‘public’ with anything – with no degree of anonymity as one gets here. Can you get them to remove it?

  • Oh and I came down with a wretched cold last night and slept very little, so am craving some comfort food! Unfortunately have some important meetings today, otherwise I would have called in sick to work and slept through the day. Just going to have to drink copious amounts of green tea with lemon, and hope for the best. How do others handle being sick on the 800?

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on Target weight
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    Well I have just search FB and found an unofficial site and guess what, I’m on it. No, I have never been on it, never even heard of it BUT when I posted on my page that I was jumping around after getting my HBA1c results and so happy to be on the BSD, they nicked it. Bloody cheek. I can of here an hour or so ago just after my earlier post to talk to my daughter on Skype and told her, she said Mum if you Google yourself you will poo your pants, the things people can find out about you. Yeah, I know, the internet is the devil but what can we do.

    Anyway, this led me to an Australian site and a TV programme called Saving Australia and it is about 3 diabetics and 3 diets, one of course is BSD. Another is carbs from fruit and veg and another is a doctor saying you must eat bread and cereal or where else will you get energy from. Oh dear. Anyway, shows the internet is useful too. Sorry to hijack the Target Weight posts but someone did ask about this.

  • Week 2 day 7

    The last four days have been terrible. My trip away was full of sweets, burgers, and the odd alcoholic drink. I came home craving a salad, but had no food in the house save for a ready made soup meal – not terrible in terms of calories and carbs, but probably filled with preservatives. However I started this morning with my usual smoothie, and even added half a teaspoon of turmeric. Not the best taste, but I hear its good for joints.

    I am expecting an increase on the scales tomorrow, but I know that its my own fault for not having enough willpower while I’ve been away. Que sera sera, I still have 6 weeks to go, and no plans of going away this coming weekend.

    πŸ™‚

  • posted by  FatBloke on Sugar Addiction
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    I love cake and biscuits as well!

    Thanks I am having protein shakes in the morning, shall have a look at the green smoothie.

  • posted by  Happygirl on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hello again!
    Forgot to mention that I bought the book too.
    Nevertheless I won’t be following all of the recipes as I like to experiment and try out new ideas!! It’s great to have a forumwhere we can share and support each other.
    Today I had a small piece of toast with olive oil with coffee for breakfast.
    At lunchtime we had homemade vegetable soup followed by roast herb salmon.
    For dinner I cooked wild mushrooms in garlic with poached eggs. We spent 3 hours foraging in the mountains for them.
    Happy days!!!
    No drink all weekend which is a major achievement for an Irish woman – mother of teenage twins.
    But the weight has got to go so we’ll soldier on.
    Cheers