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  • posted by  Igorasusual on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Fairy dewdrop do remember to add more salt than usual to your diet – with all the fluid we flush it out and it’s important to get enough sodium.

    This can also help with headaches.

    Add salt to your food, drink Miso soup. Or perhaps dissolve a stock cube in boiling water as a drink

    Hope that helps ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  captainlynne on Diet Drinks
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    I used to drink lots of Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi but then went on to fizzy diet Lemon and Lime

    But after a few months on the BSD I found them too sweet. And, when I was in Prague and the only diet drink I could find was Diet Coke, it made me feel ill๐Ÿ˜ฑ Now I only drink black coffee and water (preferably sparkling). It’s surprising how our tastes can change when doing this!

  • posted by  Frog on Target weight
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    whew – nearly two stone in 8 weeks – you must feel really proud!

    I didn’t see the original Trust me I’m a Doctor program – I wonder whether there’d be any benefit from lobbying the BBC to make it permanently available on iPlayer? – and/or to screen the original program again.

  • posted by  captainlynne on Hmm, coffee and walnut cake
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    Hi Willbeskinny

    I remember those frozen grapes ๐Ÿ˜ฑ Like you I was a member of WW on and off over many years. And SW. And just about any other slimming club you could name!

    I don’t know about a great holiday, I darent imagine how much money I’ve spent with them over the years – not only on membership fees, but also on books, gadgets and products. Plus their ranges of frozen etc foods!!! Probably could have bought a car or flat!

    All those years – I’be been on diets since I was 11, and now I’m 66๐Ÿ˜ฑ But now, thanks to Dr M (and Prof Taylor) and the BSD I’m at (well, under) my target weight and it’s only taken 9 months ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Doing these on the bus.
    The woman next to me, was reading giver my shoulder or arm.
    She couldn’t do exercise she tells me.
    RIGHT!!!
    Red rag to a crazy bull.

    I got her to wiggle her eyebrows,
    Now her nose, I did it with her,
    Now open your mouth wide and close,
    Stick your tongue out and in.
    Blow your cheeks out
    Repeat.
    So then I said…. you have just given your face a workout at the gym.
    Now let’s do one arm.
    Stretch fingers out, make a fist, repeat,
    Bend the elbow.
    Listen to your body.
    Now your shoulder,
    See how far forward you can reach,
    Now back
    Now up
    Repeat.
    You have just given your arm a work out and you are sitting in the bus.
    So tell me again you can’t exercise?

    Got the whole single decker bus exercising and we also sang… if your happy and you know It wiggle your foot, ๐ŸŽผ๐ŸŽน๐ŸŽผ๐ŸŽผ๐ŸŽผ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถ๐ŸŽถใ€ฐใ€ฐ

    Do not ever tell me the word CANT because I say you CAN and have a cup of T to celebrate

    Have a great evening everyone.

    And start by wiggling your eyebrows.
    See how far you can go.

    Love Lucia
    Xxxxx

  • posted by  Frog on Hmm, coffee and walnut cake
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    Hi Willbeskinny
    wow – sounds as if you’ve been a WW member for ages!
    Bear that time in mind, and see how close you are to your goal within that time period using BSD eating principles ๐Ÿ™‚ – or how many weeks/months sooner you achieve your goal

  • wow …. i’ll have to try turmeric as well.

    I was on amytriptyline as well … for depression … mainly my depression was from constant pain — not a great deal of pain all the time …. but constant pain … wit my feet, bad knee, bad ankle and sciatic nerve stuff, and then possible TMJ. Sciatic nerve stuff was real bad for 2 years …. and then something the chiropractor did eased that off!

    Turmeric … sounds like something to try.

  • posted by  willmac on KJ's journey to weightloss
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    Shot KJ! Just keep at it.
    I have started noticing if I have sugar (or carbs which turn in to sugar) at all, my body reacts really badly. I feel weak and sore, like a flu is coming on. It is crazy how much we attune ourselves to sugar.
    I noticed I put on weight straight after the eight weeks, and panicked. My friend at the gym told me it would be mostly water, but it has kept me honest. Got another weigh-in today, so hopefully back heading down.

  • posted by  Frog on Hello :-)
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    the Ottolhengi recipe was tons faffier than I remembered – I used the same ingredients & made a really nice stir fry that took 5 minutes. Have posted the recipe, but no photo, I’ve eaten it!

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Chair yoga.
    Sounds cool.
    Will give it a try.
    I do lu-oga.
    Short for Lucia yoga.

    I watch the yoga on you tube.
    I copy it but only the bit below the belly button.
    Then I copy the bit just above the belly button.
    After a few days I put the two halves together. Then it is a yoga position.

    AGain, I break it down to my size, my ability.

    Love
    Lucia
    Xxxxx

  • posted by  Fairydewdrop on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Day 5 still have a bad head even though drinking over 2 litres of water. Finding the diet easier than I thought so far
    Breakfast : strawberry, blueberries Greek yogurt
    Lunch : Sardines, Rocket, salad leaves
    Dinner :Roast Chicken, Vegetables.

    So good so far.

  • posted by  Willbeskinny on Hmm, coffee and walnut cake
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    Hi Frog, thanks for the positive comments. I know it’s a big loss, but I really wish I hadn’t allowed myself to get there in the first place. Its soo embarrassing to be the fattest person in the group. I think i’ve kidded myself for a long time that I am not huge which is really stupid! Maybe I wish someone had taken me to one side and said something as I really haven’t seen myself as massive, but I clearly am.

    Re cafes and desserts, just to clarify, I don’t eat the puddings / ice creams I haven’t either touched for two weeks now and not craved it either which is surprising. When we got out I usually have a coffee while the children indulge (i’m ok with their indulgence as it’s not regular and they are soo healthy – clearly got their ability to say no to junk from their dad!). Also, we usually walk / cycle there and back – I guess we go as it’s where families and friends meet up for an evening.

    As I have limited resistance to temptation I am avoiding all desserts in the hope that other posters on here are right and I will, eventually, be able to sit there unfazed when I see others tucking in.

    Captainlynne, Sadly I think I have been one of those fooling myself that these grapes and cheeses are ok to eat, whilst not totting up the sugar content in grapes (i’ve literally scoffed punnets of frozen grapes each night whilst doing WW with no thought to the sugar effects other than to my teeth – how silly!) or the crackers accompanying the cheeses. Oh well, it was my last payment to WW this month and I am super relived as I was not losing anything and hadn’t really been successful for years. I could have gone on great holiday with the amount I have paid to be a member. I have to say I find following the recipes that someone else has calorie checked so easy, fingers crossed it stay that way !

  • posted by  shalimar on My Diary
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    Congrats to you and Mrs C.!!
    I have Canadian Thanksgiving upcoming weekend so i will likely be off the BSD for a day …. although i shall try and splurge on healthy food and perhaps a glass of wine.

    Didn’t use a blender on soup …. i kind of like rustic over smooth. I even like chunky mashed potatoes with skin on —- not that i have that anymore ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

    Laid up this weekend … dry sinuses and very sore throat!!

    Happy birthday to your mother in law!

  • posted by  shalimar on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Still have dry sinuses and a sore throat!!

    But …. on the good side
    1. It is a beautiful sunny day …. much nicer than it usually is in October here
    2. Went out for cream and sore throat lozenges …. and narrowly escaped buying a bag of chips/crisps …. corner store had no cream so i walked to the grocery store … and got some nice chicken wings/drumsticks (small, roasted from the deli) …. at least that was healthy food
    3. Sinutab is working on the sinus pain!! Cancelled aquabics class and had a nice lie in!

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Yes, I have been thinking again.
    Just going to have a yoghurt and calm down.

    As you can see I was in a hell of a mess.
    I am getting there now.
    Keep going, keep moving, keep happy.

    Oh and 14 weeks to Christmas,
    I have a promise to keep.

    Love Lucia
    Xxxxx

  • posted by  Igorasusual on My eight weeks….
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    Well done Lucia!!!!!!

    Good luck with the interview – you are SO worth it ๐Ÿ™‚

    And inspirational. But you do that just in your spare time. You must be PHENOMENAL inspiring people at work.

    ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    Oh and something else.

    I have told you how fat and ill and unfit I was.
    It was too much to get myself just off the couch,
    Then walking around the house,
    Then kept moving
    Kept walking
    Kept dancing as I dried the dishes,
    Kept pushing, inch by inch.
    Now I cycle to the gym, do 30 mins in the room with the rowing machine, cross country machine, treadmill etc
    The 30 mins in the wright room
    Then in the pool, if I am not swimming a length, then I hold the side of the pool and do stretches or excercises, in the water.
    Oh and by the way, all the snobby brilliant swimmers all tutted at me when I did a width really really slowly to start with. Now the gutters are my friends.
    Then I cycle home the long long way.

    Now I told you, at he beginning I couldn’t do the diet cold turkey.
    I had to break the wall down into bricks.
    Shall I change just one meal a day to start with?
    Shall I count the calories if one meal a day and keep it to 300?
    Shall I try just salad or veg for one meal a day?
    Shall I cut the carbs in one meal a day.
    Now I am eating with bs diet way for 80% of the time.
    I am not perfect, I am human.but I have noticed my tastes have changed.
    I went into a takeaway shop, and had to rush back out as it smelt so greasy it made my tummy flip!!

    So team, whether you are thinking about starting or one day one, or about seven months in like me, just keep going.

    But I never told you my blood work figures, my tablets that I had to take. My symptoms.
    I decided not to prattle on about that junk.
    They were in the corner of the room but I did not give the valuable time here on the blog.
    Slowly they faded into nothingness.
    The only mention I did, was to acknowledge I am off all medication.
    I didn’t do a song and dance over it. I didn’t love them. I wanted them to divorce me, to pack their bags, to leave me forever, to walk down the road and forget my address.

    I have the same attitude with my blubber, I have only mentioned the size 26 that was elasticated and too tight.
    Do I got a baseball bat and mentally beat the living daylights out of each pound.
    I was angry with the blubber, it made my life hell, made me ill, made me not live life to the full.
    So I take each pound. I think if it as a glob of ugly yellow slimy dense smelly shap the size of a paperback book.
    I visualise me beating seven shades of ยฅ$><<~%โ‚ฌ$ยฅ out if it,, it gets smaller and smaller until it’s gone. It feeds off me being unhealthy, but when I cycle or dance or move, it screams and shrinks, smaller and smaller.
    (Yes I know a shrink would have field day with me).
    I try to show that it isn’t an essential part of me, that it is a parasite hanging on to me sucking the life out if me. So when I exercise, I imagine me with a baseball bat, bag! Take that, wack, take that!! Etc.

    Some people may find it easier and less disturbing, to visualise themselves in a size 12.
    I need the aggression as motivation.

    So what’s the next step?

    Building my self confidence, building the inner me. I have been hiding in this fat suit for far too long. It’s time to step out into the sunshine and feel the warmth in my face……..

    Love Lucia
    Xxxx

  • Hi Christine
    I’m with you on that ๐Ÿ˜ƒ This year’s colours seem to have been the autumn ones since this time last year๐Ÿ˜ฑ Give me what I know as Chinese Blue or a nice bluey-pink, even a nice bluey-red. Nice and bright. Not yellow, or orange. *thinks* not even seen any coloured tights for ages!

    Enjoy your trip๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  • Hi Verano,
    Thank you so much for the recommendation, I have been so much better on the turmeric tablets, I will never fully get rid of the pain, as it’s a damaged sciatic nerve, I take two amytriptyline every night and one (can’t remember the name) tablet in morning, my doctor has only just changed it because of the pain I was in, they didn’t work!
    So a Big thank you for recommending them, they are a miracle cure for me.
    Christine.

  • Hi Lynne,
    I have never liked autumn colours, so like you I don’t like anything in the shops with those awful muddy colours, it’s miserable enough in winter why would you want to wear dull colours? Give me bright happy colours any day!!!

    It’s whether I have a connection and have the time while I am lazing by the pool!!!!! I’m sure there will be opportunity to catch up with the forum.
    Christine.

  • posted by  LainieUK on My eight weeks….
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    Avila

    I love fish as well and I’ve discovered how nice it is with a pat of herb butter – I’ve always thought that I couldn’t afford the calories but now I’m not eating any junk I can afford it. My next step is to make my own.

  • posted by  LainieUK on My eight weeks….
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    Well done Lucia!!

    I went for an interview this week and finally was able to wear one of my lovely suits. I felt fabulous and so much more confident than when I’ve had to cobble clothes together. Like you, I don’t care if I don’t get it because I love the new confident me.

    Elaine xx

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    So,
    I have a question for you all.
    And I do want to hear from each and everyone if you.

    What’s the oddest exercise do you do.

    What do you do now., with exercise that you couldn’t do before
    Or you couldn’t ever contemplate before?

    Mine is…
    I try all different things to keep interested and stimulated.

    From hoolahoop.
    Juggling 2.3 even 4 balls
    Hop scotch
    Weights in the gym
    Puddle bashing.

    I look for something really cheap, like the bat and ball in Poundland.

    So team, what’s yours?

    Love Lucia
    Xxxx

  • posted by  Fairyface on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Nice to see you Miss Ziggy.

    Day 2

    todays meals: Breakfast : poached eggs with spinach and pine nuts page 29 recipe book
    Lunch: Feta and avocado bash page 49
    Dinner: Beef stir fry with asparagus and sesame seeds page101

    Verdict: breakfast: tried it will not be having it again
    lunch: I think it would be better not mashed together but chopped up with shredded lettuce.
    Felt as though I had eaten enough and lasted till dinner time at 5.30
    dinner: FANTASTIC.:-) Had it marinating since this morning. Had not got mange tout so used french beans
    and a courgette. I did cauliflower florets in the oven. Nice:-)

    Had had several cups of tea and loads of water. Might have to have a few almonds later but I will see how I go.

  • posted by  FlowerFairy on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hello,

    I’m starting the diet on Tuesday, after getting some new ingredients tomorrow.

    I’m not diabetic – but don’t intend to be and I need to lose weight, preferably about 2 stone, but my goal at first will be a stone.

    The weight is around my middle and bottom and I now have cellulite on my thighs, something which escaped me for years.

    I realise I will never be a size 10 again, but a size 12 would be fabulous.

  • posted by  ShellBrum on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Day 3 for me – heaps better on the headache front which is great, just a low lying one. Also noticed an increase in energy from yesterday too.

    Meals for me today were

    Breakfast: Portobello โ€œtoastโ€ with goat cheese and pine nuts.
    Lunch: Pepper with jeweled feta.
    Dinner: Eggplant with lamb and pomegranate (swapped out lamb for smoked tofu which was amazing).

    All great meals today! Drinking lots of water and peppermint tea (peeing lots too!).

    Feeling good!

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    and
    This week I have lost three pounds.
    ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

    So, when I say,…does my bum look big in this.
    I can reply….. not so much.

    So keep going , I didn’t let one gain of a pound last week upset me.
    Hubby said it was wind… eh?

    Three pounds in one week.
    I haven’t killed myself. It’s been great.
    I am mindful still, over every time I eat.

    How are you all doing?

    Love Lucia
    Xxxxx

  • posted by  Lucia on My eight weeks….
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    So team,
    How are we all doing?

    I have to tell you something about the bs diet, how it has affected me in the most unusual way…..
    I have the confidence or nerve or back bone,….. to apply for a top job????,!!!!!๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ๐Ÿ˜ถ

    I don’t know where it has come from.

    Previously as I was so big and out if condition, I didn’t think anyone would want me, I also previously couldn’t be bothered to GO FOR IT.

    It doesn’t matter if I don’t get it.

    It’s just, well, I think I am worth it.

    Love Lucia
    Xxxx

  • posted by  LainieUK on Target weight
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    I joined and left that facebook (the one that isn’t the official page) very quickly. I still follow the official page. Someone got on their high horse when I said I was starting a second 8 week stint and pointed me to their pinned posts. I had to laugh – they clearly have self appointed themselves and are attempting to make Michael M’s easy approach into something with rules and regulations. The beauty of this plan is how simple it is to understand and as I doubt none of them are professionally qualified nutritionists, their opinions are worth diddly squat.

    This forum is so much more in tune with MM’s approach.

    On a more positive note, I’m pleased to say that I’ve just finished my first 8 weeks and lost 26lbs. (17st 12.6 – 16st 0.6). I feel fabulous. I had one reading of elevated blood sugar suggesting pre-diabetes, which got me going on this plan. Since then my blood sugar is back into the healthy range. I am eating so much better, having really great tasting food and never feel hungry. My low level depression has completely gone and I can get into my size 20 smart jeans and fitted navy suit. I know size 20 is still large, but compared to what I was wearing at 20 stone, it feels small!

    I couldn’t have achieved this without MM’s BSD, this forum, the online food tracker I use and my very supportive husband. Oh and photos have really helped – my face has slimmed down so much.

    I REALLY wish I’d come across this approach earlier in the year. I watch all MM’s programmes but somehow missed the BSD 800 calorie/8 week plan. Just glad I found it when I did!

    The future feels very bright!

    Elaine xx

  • posted by  Flash21 on First day!
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    Hey LolaB,

    Glad to hear it’s going well. It is pretty hard when you first start but as you get into the swing of things you find yourself not wanting to fall off the wagon and it becomes easier. I did a mid-week weigh in and discovered I’ve lost 9lbs since I started, which was only on Tuesday! I am amazed! Official end of week 1 weigh in will be this Tuesday morning so am intrigued to find out if I’ll have lost any more by then. Have you weighed yet?

  • posted by  Cazza53 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi รจverybody around the globe who is in ๐Ÿ™‚ aww so we are all mega excited for the loss which will be our reward for being so good. WILLPOWER is our best friend -v- CARBS=bigger dress size!
    So today was…..
    Greek yoghurt with berries 200
    Roast chicken and green veg (gotta have Sunday roast)260
    Roasted peaches (yummy) 90
    Spicy prawn kebabs 190
    Drinks we’ve been having sparkling water with slice lemon (so refreshing) and today I had a cheeky vodka (50cals) with sparkling water as a treat instead of snack
    Total 790 cals
    Hung the xmas dress for me to see daily that was purchased and failed to get into last year as encouragement.
    Hubby is tea tearing on diabetes 2 and hopefully we will reverse it by xmas hurrah :))

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on Target weight
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    I have found the official blood sugar diet page on FB, it is the one which has the title The Blood Sugar Diet and all the posts are from the BSD team with people commenting, it is not a group of women although there are several other bsd site on facebook which appear to be just anyone doing it. Not had time to look at them yet.

  • posted by  FlowerFairy on Day 1 – we begin…
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    Hello everyone.

    Hopefully this is the right post to latch onto?

    Tuesday I shall be starting properly, as tomorrow will be shopping for new ingredients!

    I’m not a diabetic – but my intention is not to become one. However, I do want to lose weight around my middle and ideally lose at the very least, a stone. I don’t exercise much either, although might take up cycling again, will see how the food part goes.

    Luckily I love Mediterranean foods, so that’s a good start.

    I bought the two books – diet and recipes – and the diet book is such an interesting read.

    Well, here goes.

  • posted by  Flash21 on Countdown to 20th November!
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    Don’t worry Caz, these things will happen – and sometimes you might even want them to happen! It’s really all about how you deal with it during and after and it sounds like you have a good handle on things PLUS a drop of 2lbs. Not bad! I’ve also had alcohol this weekend. Not a great deal but probably a glass or two more than I should have. But I am not worrying about it because I have kept really strictly to the diet otherwise. If I lose slower, I lose slower. I am not in a race! For me I think I also need a healthy mental attitude so don’t want to start obsessing over every sip or mouthful. Still, it won’t be an every day occurrence!

  • posted by  Flash21 on Started 3 days ago
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    Mmmm I love lime cordial! Although currently working my way through a Tropical Twister flavour from Robinsons ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  HappyLife on Target weight
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    There isn’t an official FB group that I am aware of it seems. Ask the leaders if they are affiliated with Michael’s site or forum. If they say “no” then you decide moving forward. For me I prefer they be ethical and they wouldn’t even let me put a link to Michaels true site and forums and blocked me right away when I said they should honor his actual site.
    ๐ŸŒท

  • posted by  LainieUK on Diet Drinks
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    I have diet coke, low sugar orangina and low sugar fanta or tango. I am careful with the orange drinks as they do have calories and carbs. I also have lots of water, sparkling water as well as a few cups of tea and coffee. I’ve lost 26lbs in 8 weeks and feel I do need to have some treats on hand for when I want something tasty. They are one of my daily treats.

  • posted by  FatBloke on Sugar Addiction
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    Thanks Snoop.

    Third day in and I cheated at 3am had 200 calories I should not have had so was at 1000 for the day.

    Day 1 3.5 pounds lost 13st 10lbs to 13st 6.5lbs
    Day 2 0.25lb 13st 6.5lb to 13st 6.25lb

    Not really a loss for the second day I guess now it is fat not water.

    Drunk loads of water, black coffee and herbal tea.

  • posted by  HappyLife on Target weight
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    Hi Lynne! Congrats on your great job you’ve done!
    Yes the two women were very snip pity and seeing what you wrote confirms to me they started it without approval of this site it seems. I have informed this site as they have made several FB groups which look official but I don’t feel they are since they aren’t tied to this site and forum. I hope they aren’t making money selling his book but they quickly end conversations with people on his actual site and forum.

    I need to create my next target. I will be having surgery on the 19th and would like to lose another 5lbs by then so I guess that’s going to be my new target! Ha I figured one out right now!

    Big thanks to you, and all of you, for being such great motivators and letting us share without judgement and rude comments.

    It’s the best๐Ÿ˜

  • posted by  Meeshe42 on Help!
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    Sometimes people plateau if you they do not vary meals? Another thing is start writing down all what you eat as it maybe that you snack and don’t realise. Maybe add in some exercise? Hope that helps?

  • posted by  FatBloke on Diet Drinks
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    Thanks everyone it is really useful to see what other people are doing and their thoughts on the subject.

    Four stone is a really good loss, well done!

    The sweet thing is a really good point but at the moment finding things a little tough, I cheated at 3 in the morning I came down an ate an eat natural chocolate and peanut protein bar I had left over (it is not very sweet and it is chocolate flavour no chocolate). So my 800 calories went to 1000!

    Today I bought some diet death as I like to call diet coke!