Hello my friends, end of our 7 day reboot. Great weight loss Verano, and you too Krysia.

Here are my results.
Weight start 75.4 weight today 74.3, lost 1.1 kilos or 2.5 lbs.

I am thrilled with that. I have now lost 6.6 kilos or 1 stone 1lb. Not a massive loss by others standards but I know some people have lots more to lose and it comes off quicker. Also, I repeat myself, I am on insulin which is a fat magnet.

Because I had a really low b/g yesterday morning 65 or 3.5, I decided to reduce my insulin by 1 unit last night. So origianlly on 37 units, got down to 26 and yesterday 25. Today my blood glucose is 4.3 (79). Leaving it at 25 for the next few days. Then we will see. If what happens to Krysia happens to me I might be well on the way to being in remission although I am still taking it steady.

As for a new thread, yes I’m up for it. I have another week before I go to Scotland for nearly 2 weeks (help) so want to keep up the loss. I have done a menu plan for the week but concentrating on keeping to or under 800 cal, and it appears the carbs are automatically low or can be adjusted. Today I will be having 730 cals and 23 carbs. I don’t mind going up to 40 carbs as 30 was hard work. Still, we have done it.

Re carbs and fibre:

In the UK the packets (and MFP etc) show NET carbs (total carbs less fibre). And that is the number we are counting for our “50g or under” target.

In the US (not sure about elsewhere) the carbs on the packet are TOTAL carbs so you need to deduct the fibre grams to get the net carbs to count.

Hope that makes sense. If you need lots of fibre, just look for stuff with plenty in, but less net carbs.

🙂

I’m alive and well.

I have you guys the best support network anywhere, totally unconditional.

I have the motivation to start a reboot with the lovely Verona and KrysiaD woo hoo fantastic BSD week ahead.

😊🙋🚌🙋😊

Hi everyone,
I think we should all give ourselves a big pat on the back for realising we want to improve ourselves and for being here.
I started the diet yesterday with my Husband – who I don’t think really believes me – but I think will change his mind once he starts seeing the results – as long as he is honest with himself and me!
Yes I’m hungry – but I keep telling myself that’s a good thing – my body is using the food I give it.
I think using the books and being organised is the key – and reading the great posts on here to keep us going.
Best of luck everyone – we can all do this!!!

Hi there, 9lbs in one week, wow. You have had a really big loss and your body is saying ‘what the hell is going on here’ so it is going to recalculate what it knows and expects. It is not going into starvation mode where some people believe your metabolism stops. That is no longer seen to be true. It is just adjusting, to the weight loss and to the changes in food intake. Also, on this diet because of the way chemicals in your body react to carbs and the work it has to do to process them (thats the science bit over) you may actually be losing internal fat around your liver and pancreas, which weight different to body blubber. That is where the good work is happening, although you don’t say if you are diabetic and I am too lazy to check through any previous posts you may have made (that was a joke) but, even if you are not, there will be things going on behind the sceens. Like, your liver improving, your cholesterol going down etc etc. It is a mini miracle.

Before IGORASUSUAL comes on and shouts HAVE YOU MEASURED YOURSELF, I will do it for her. Sometimes loss is seen in other ways. Come on Igor, tell it like it is. LOL.

Don’t get disheartened, have you ever lost 9lbs in one week before. I bet not. Keep on keeping on.

It happens to loads of people Jimjamz. Just put plateau in the search box!!!

Please don’t worry. But have you MEASURED????? And are you testing yourself against target clothes?

Is your waist slightly smaller? Is your belt looser or are you using a different notch?

Sometimes visceral fat (round your organs) goes first and for some reason doesn’t show in the weight.

But whatever – don’t lose heart. Have you worked out what 10-15% of your starting weight is? Ok, now pick a figure at the low end – say 12%- and divide this down into 8 weeks. This is the amount you should lose ON AVERAGE each week. But it won’t necessarily stay level each week as everyone is different.

Don’t lose heart – keep on keeping on. It will happen in the end. Believe me 🙂

Talking food and creativity lovely themes for the positivity thread.

Mine are

1. a lie in this morning: reading online newspapers, catching up with friends in text/FB/email. Daughter up during the night, so remembered to take it easy this morning rather than leaping into the day. Hoping my batteries won’t run flat by the afternoon. This is an important learning for me to ensure I don’t relapse back into ME. Easily forgotten when you feel a bit more alive again.

2. Realised that not only have I lost lots of weight this week, but that it took me out of the NHS weight charts OBESE category, and I’m now simply OVERWEIGHT. Hoorah!

3. Today is my Amatsu therapy day. I simply love this. I’m sure it’s made me feel a squillion times better.

Happy Tuesday all. PS the sun is still shining in England in October, which is really a 1. 2. and 3 on the positivity scale 🙂

Hello Emily and all of the 1 October starters, I don’t have a huge amount to lose, but it would be heaven to be a stone less, but I have dieted and lost and found the same 14 lbs over and over again, since I was nineteen!!!! NOt good, but now I am older (67) it gets harder and harder to lose a pound let alone a stone, I have thyroid problems which don’t help either – but I have stuck with the diet since 1 October and feel really motivated that so many of us are doing this together, with all of its ups and downs and I don’t want to let anyone down so that way my conscience has stopped me drinking wine (despite a family BBQ ) and eating away from the confines of the diet. ITs easy to follow and the food is good I went out for a mammoth shop today to make sure I had the foods on the menu plan so fingers crossed on SAturday when we post our weight ( if peeps want to) I will be happy to have lost anything, though more would be better than less! Food today, no breakfast, ploughmans – no carb for lunch and one sausage and cauliflower mash for dinner, with tea etc just over 800, good luck to everyone X

Aww thank you so much for the pep talk, I really appreciate it!

Well the scales moved this morning but in the wrong direction :O …. 0.2lbs on!

I’ll keep on going! Would love to understand what is going on though!

Hi Wendy 1947

Advacardo has 9 g of carbohydrate per 100 gram according to my information source hope that helps
Good luck with the day
Cathy

No, not slimy!
I really like the taste of aubergine – I will post that recipe too
My favourite is ratatouille – I haven’t made that for a few weeks
Years ago you had to salt it and drain aubergine, which was faffy and took ages – I don’t bother, but apparently the bitterness has been “grown out of them” now. this wasn’t the article I read that in – but here is a similar one:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/feb/10/salting-aubergine-eggplant-crossing-sprouts
It also absorbs mega amounts of oil if you put large quantities of oil in when you cook it, which will contribute to it being slimy. The original recipe talked about using tons of oil, then draining it off. Duur?!
I will make it myself, and do it with as little oil as possible, then post it.

I also bought some delicious aubergine ‘dip’ from Waitrose – it was called a dip, but more of a pate consistency. I added yogurt to make it more liquid.http://lovemoorish.co.uk/moorish-baba-ghanoush-ish-aubergine-dip/

Hi Jimjamz,

Sorry to hear you’re feeling despondent. From what I’ve read on these forums, a plateau is fairly common soon after you start this plan. The key is to keep going and not give up as you could only be a couple of days away from a sudden big loss. Have you done anything differently this week compared to last? Have you kept up your water intake and so on? Small changes might make big differences! Also, are you tracking your food/cals/carbs?

Hi everyone,
I’m now on my last day of week 2. I lost 9 Ibs in week 1, but so far I’ve not lost anything in week 2. Finding it hard to keep going, when I’m not losing anything. Has this happened to anyone else?

Well done Janrg1 – for your weight loss, of course, but particularly for resisting roast potatoes, Yorkshires AND brownies. No wonder you are feeling saintly!! Keep it up! I’m pretty sure I would have caved for at least one of those things…..

Great stuff Verona.

I will be sticking to 40 carbs 😰 Aiming for a loss of 2 kgs 😇😇😇 How about you, and Krysia, what you both aiming for.

I’m having difficulty finding out an accurate carbohydrate listing per 100grs & although I am rereading the BSDiet book I’m not sure how many carb grams we are supposed to be eating with 800 calories a day? Having eaten avocado yesterday I was trying to find out how many carbs are in a large avocado. They are one of my favourite foods & I have three more in the fridge!
We are embarking on day two so hoping it will be OK because we have never had two “fast” days together before.
Good luck everyone on their second day.

Hey Verano,

Well done on your reboot challenge! I think I might try aiming for around 40g carbs this week instead of 50g – just to see if it’s doable and how I feel etc. Will see how it goes today!

Hi Doordie. If I understand you first post right you detail calories and protein. You might be like me and need to track your carbs more carefully to get a weight lost boost. Some of the BSD recipes can be a bit high in carbs for some. I was sticking to 50g carb limit a day then dropped to 20g and lost 7 pounds that week. Whilst also upping my calories from fat. Some people can eat much more carbs than me and lose.

It’s official: 10LBS DOWN!

Onwards and downwards! 🙂 🙂

Hi
Anjiejag, Theresa May is T1 diabetic, rather than type 2, causes and risk factors are significantly different I believe.

Someone I worked with had bariatric surgery about a year ago – she has lost weight, but no more than people on this forum (less than you I believe Lynne) – and ended up with a very calorie restricted diet.
In the period that I worked with her, she wasn’t making particularly informed choices (pizza, albeit in v small quantities, sweet flavoured yogurts with commercial muesli), and made with the knowledge that if she over indulged, she’d be sick anyway.
When I discussed it with her, she said it effectively gave her a year to change her eating habits.
I don’t know whether or not she was diabetic, but I don’t see what the surgery added that she wouldn’t have got from a year of BSD

Morning Caz,

I think your crossed fingers worked for me as official end of week one weigh in says 10lbs down! Yay!

Hi

We crossed in cyberspace !!

New thread … 7 Day …. Pick a carb level… Tuesday 4th October

Thanks for all your encouragement I couldn’t have got through this last week without you all.

Here’s to the next week and good luck to everyone!

Hi all,

I started on 3/10 too…off to a slightly slow start as I think I may have exceeded (obliterated) the 800 Cal limit (learning early on just how easy it is to do!). Even so, I still went to bed last night with a migraine 🙁

I’m hoping to lose about 2st eventually…

Happy Tuesday 🙂

Thanks Igor for the measurement tips! I don’t know where my tape measure is so I will find some test garments and see what happens with them. Have already had to go onto the next belt hole and the one after that won’t be far off! Usually it’s going the other way….

I’ve just done my official end of week one weigh in and am 10lbs down! Can’t believe it 🙂 Well done everyone on your week 1 successes too – I hope you are feeling like you can take on week 2 with ease now!

Feelinghopeful – welcome! I often do what dlmoulton does and head for bed. But other things to stave off hunger include a big glass of sparkling water, something crunchy like celery sticks, or just distracting myself by going upstairs away from the fridge and cupboards!

Hi kriysiaD

Not sure what I wrote that was anything useful, I’m usually full of waffle, hehe and fat pixies, but it would be great to have you on board the reboot BSD bus, we all sit on the back seat together, cuddling up and supporting each other. 😊😊😊😊😊

Verona I think you make an excellent role example, so it should definitely be you leading the thread, kriysiaD also wants to join in, so are we starting today. 😊🚌😊

After a really successful 7 Day Reboot a few people would like another week plus challenge.

I find moving on one week at a time suits me best so for the next 7 days please choose a carb level to suit yourself and let’s see where it takes us !!

I am moving up to 35g of carbs this week because I really need to add more vegetables without having to juggle too much with other food.

I know Jan and Krysia are on board. Anybody else ?????

Thanks Yowzer! I tried on existing winter coat and it’s too big which is lovely! Another bag of clothes going to charity bin today. When I finish will have a chat with GP. I still have a lot to lose. She was really interested in what I was doing and recommended after 8 weeks to up the calories and fat a lot more but cut carbs way down. I am a bit scared to go past 800cals but she really knows her research and says I will still lose weight quickly. It is so motivating to talk to a doctor who is open to this way of dieting.

Hi Lynne😀😀

I’ve also seen the results of bariatric surgery and personally I’d rather be fat!!!!

Seriously, I wonder about the wisdom of ‘routine ‘ bariatric surgery as ‘cure’ for diabetes. I think that at the end of the day less maybe spent on treating diabetes but I think the mental health bill will escalate . Why would anybody be happy to spend the rest of their lives eating ‘6 teaspoons ‘ of soup when they could have good, nutritious low carb ‘real’ food!!!!

Well done SHNITZEL! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
What a great result! What are yr plans post week 8?
I am like you,i buy a nice shower gel for now,makes me feel nice,but i want a lovely new winter coat!

Verano very well done – what a stunning result from your week at 30g. I think the majority of BSD people do well on 50g carbs but some of us (a much smaller percentage of people and I am one of them) need to go lower or we don’t lose weight. It is such a good idea to increase by 5g per day to find your ideal amount which is probably pretty close to the 50g. I will be doing that when I reach my target weight. 30g doesn’t give you enough vegetables long term so I am looking forward to more veggies soon.

Greenjanet – it is so good to see you back. When I first started BSD I did a marathon read of loads and loads of threads and I loved reading your posts.

Weight lost this week 2 3/4lbs which takes me to 1 stone 1/4lb lost since 3rd Sept. I am so happy with that.

I would like to join your new thread as it really helped me posting on this thread. Although I may only have maybe 7lbs to lose now I will more than likely need to restrict carbs long term to 50g or lower because I would be absolutely heartbroken if I had to go back on insulin. I feel that need to treat my pancreas gently and not make it work too hard so that it keeps on working.

Yesterday I substituted some veg for 2 squares of dark chocolate – which was lovely but my tastes must be really changing because I wondered as I ate the chocolate why it didn’t taste as amazingly good as it used to.

In Week 7 I lost 7 pounds! Now down 29 pounds and starting last week of Fast 800. My weight loss was slowing down to about a pound a week which I felt a bit disappointed with so I looked closer at my macro nutrients. Had been keeping to under 50g (usually between 30&40g) so dropped to 20g max a day and lost 7 pounds. 5.5 inches off my hips and nearly ready for another change of jeans! Good thing I kept some smaller pairs!

I watched the programme,too and it brought it home to me just how damaging this condition can be. Since starting on the BSD I have spoken to quite a few people who have been diagnosed with type2, just in the village where I live! Even Theresa May is a diabetic,as she revealed on TV this morning. As a nation, we really need to wake up and address this ‘epidemic’. I was astonished to learn how much this is costing the NHS. I never considered myself to be much overweight and didn’t consider myself to be a big eater of carbs and sugar. What a wake – up call!

Hi Verano *waves*

Many years ago I watched a programme about stomach stapling. A woman featured had the surgery performed four times. Yes, four times! First time she realised she could eat liquidised Mars bars! Then various things happened, leading to the repeat ops. Three of which were on the NHS 😱

Again, many years ago my mother was in hospital and I was speaking to her surgeon. As well as the op she was having, he also performed stomach stapling and each time Imsaw him it seemed he was looking at me as a prospective patient so I wrapped my coat more tightly round me. And I had seen some of his patients post-op!

I was, for the want of a better word, surprised earlier this year when I read that bariatric surgery would be routinely offered to all diabetics.

Perhaps the programme will lead people to get their bloods checked so if they are diabetic or pre-diabetic it will be picked up early. And for those who have already been diagnosed hopefully it will lead people to take more care of themselves. But as long as the current guidelines are in place I do worry about the future

It was also concerning what was said about the form of diabetes that children are being diagnosed with being “more aggressive”.

Hi Suoon2bethinner 😃

I did think that about the woman! Thinking about the Ribena – years ago my aunt was diagnosed with diabetes shortly before her 60th birthday. It had been missed and when it was finally detected she was immediately admitted to hospital. On the ward was a woman, also diabetic, who drank neat fruit squash. Yes, the squash you dilute – she was drinking neat, straight from the bottle! Makes my toes curl to think of it😱

Hello,
I also started yesterday 3/10. This is my second time. I lost just over 2st between March and April. My diabetic medication was halved and I got excellent blood results. However a few bad habits crept back in, as did a few pounds after a holiday!! So, I’m back on it now with the aim to lose another 2st and finally come off all medication (hoping to get to 10st).
I’ve found it easier this time round too.

Hi Frog

Jan has started 800/50 but would like some company. I plan on 800/35 for a week. Come and join us if it helps …. haven’t a thread yet!

I look forward to the salmon recipe. I actually don’t like honey unless it’s ‘hidden’ in something but I always have it in as my OH loves it!

Can I ask about the aubergine ? I haven’t eaten it for many many years because when I did have it, on only one occasion, it was ‘slimy’. Is it still the same?

I have a great butternut squash and chickpea curry recipe but it is rather high in carbs. Only have if when I’m desperate for spice and stodge !! It’s roughly 20g of carbs but only 250 odd calories. Freezes beautifully.

Hi Jan

Good to see you back. I’d be happy to carry on for another week, not sure how long I can go at this pace, so just one week at a time at the moment!

Do you have a thread or shall we start one?

Avila

Us old-timers commented months ago on how much money we were saving the NHS. And that was only on drug prescriptions! After watching Panorama last night the amount we are saving the NHS must be massive.

We hear so many comments that 800 calories is too low, but the woman who had bariatric surgery had a meal of 6 teaspoons of soup!

Many years ago I was seeing my mother’s surgeon (who also performed bariatric surgery – not what she was having) and each time he saw me, it seemed he was looking at me as a prospective patient – so I wrapped my coat round me, thinking there was no way I would do that – I’d seen some of his patients post-op😱 Wish he could see me now 😃

Hi Frog and Littlepete

I watched Panorama last night (carefully avoiding the more gruesome scenes of surgery!). Perhaps it should be required viewing for ‘non-compliant’ type 2 diabetics. I was going to ask how we have reached the point where a child has cirrhosis, and more children each year are being diagnosed with type 2 – previously unknown in this country in 2000. But we know, don’t we!

Interestingly (or scarily) there seemed to be a thought that the childhood type 2 is more aggressive 😱

Well worth watching. Not seen the BBC Wales programme yet – tonight. And I also enjoyed the one a Frog mentions “the doctor who gave up drugs”. 😃

Well done Mixnmatch!

My scales showed 0.2kg less this morning, which was a nice way to start the day. (I weigh daily too).

Food plans for today: two small meals – late breakfast of a poached egg, beans and mushrooms and an early dinner before a 6pm meeting, of salmon or chicken and veg.

Exercise plans for today: just walking today, hope to start HIIT on Thursday

Starting multivitamins and vitamin D in earnest today too.

Hi mauricem

The total number of carbs a day is individual. Some on here are/were diabetic, others not, and that can influence our decisions.

Some have around 25g a day while others can eat more and still see benefits. I have had to keep mine around the 25g level – it was the way to bring my blood sugars down to normal levels.

Chickpeas – I’ve just checked and A can of Tesco chickpeas in water has 16.1g of carbohydrate per 100g drained, or 19.3g of carbs in half a drained can. I would advise caution. As for hummus, I also love it – but am cautious with portion size. I had 1 teaspoon of it the other day. Previously I could happily have eaten at least half the pot. There are recipes in the BSD books to make your own hummus – that could be an option for you.

Can I suggest that you check carb values, rather than GI/GL 😃

Verona, how about we doo one together, I am on day one of my reboot. 800/50 and down by .4 kgs, but I can start day one today if you like. How about it. 9.2 lbs amazing, 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏but I don’t think I can keep to 30 carbs, what was you eating? 😱😱😱

I saw the program and found it really ‘sobering’!!

I also hate this idea that bariatric surgery is offered almost matter of factly. I’m sure that all of these patients are told to lose weight prior to this last step, but I’m not sure that they’re given the correct tools.

The biggest problem I see with bariatric surgery is that it could be seen as a ‘quick fix”. People aren’t being re-educated food wise and maybe still don’t understand the risks of diabetes. Bariatric surgery isn’t always a cure all as some people do manage to put weight back on in time! Liquidised mars bars!!

On a serious note … if that program didn’t scare every diagnosed diabetic to take care of themselves then I don’t know what will.

Let’s just stick to this trail moving us all to better health!

Hi Maurice
the BSD book does not set a max carb limit
the easiest way to get the most from this forum is the search box – top right hand corner
i didn’t spot it myself for a while, but if you search on “max carbs” it will bring up all of the existing threads on this topic

with yogurt, the best type is full fat natural yogurt – Fage is a particularly low carb brand, but is relatively expensive compared to supermarket own brands. 200g sounds like quite a large portion, but 11g for that quantity sounds quite good. Do double check it is the nutrition for the full carton, not for 100g of it! Again, lots of pre-existing threads on yogurts!
similarly cheese is good, but watch the portion size – 30g is generally the amount advised as a cheese portion

We’ve all noticed ruthdownunder, especially when your shorts fall down, hehe it’s a great feeling isn’t it, great worl
😊😊😊

Verona

Bril work delighted for you it will have given you a brilliant motivation now😀😇🙂😇😀😇😀😇

This morning I am back to my pre-weekend off weight of 12 stone 10, so it will be interesting to see how quickly it drops this week. Breakfast will be buckwheat porridge with some Linwoods, a banana and some more cream, then a big gap to lunch which is to be determined.

Hi Littlepete
well done, that’s great
was it the panorama program? I’m going to watch it on iPlayer when I get time
Avila also posted a thread with a link to a BBC wales program on low carb/high fat eating that was interesting – not BSD specifically

also I recently enjoyed BBCs “The Doctor Who Gave Up Drugs” – good results from regular walking

OK – you’ve inspired me Verano – I have no weekends away, celebrations planned, and the only meals out can be very BSD friendly restaurants I WILL have a VERY strict 7 days and see!

I’ll post the salmon teriyaki recipe
I did pause on the honey and think how much damage can half of quarter of a teaspoon do – the other side of the argument was how much difference can it make to the taste.
If I’d been making it at home, I simply wouldn’t have had honey here – or some of the other ingredients,
I decided at the weekend that I need to do an audit of what spices I do have, and maybe get some more.
I definitely want to have a go at making the aubergine curry that my friend Ann cooked for me a the weekend.

another beginner question!
Examining GI GL tables, they indicate the chickpeas have zero GL. does that mean that i can eat them alot. i love humus, which includes also tahini (sesame seed). pls advise.

mauricem