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  • posted by  sunshine-girl on Hello :-)
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    Stay strong 1960, it was a diabetic dietician that set me on a course of gaining 5kg and changing my excellent HBA1c (5.8) to a whopping 11.2. She told me to eat carbs with every meal plus 2 snacks, said it would stabilize my b/g when I only went to ask her what I should eat it when I got shaky after exercise. Her theory is that if I ate until I burst I would never get shaky. Agggggggggh.

    Anyway, I took things into my own hands and cuts out most of the carbs and got my HBA1c down to 8.2 and there it stuck for 6 months (2 tests) and then I found this plan. Now my HBA1c is 6.7 after just 6 weeks when I had my test (now been on it for 12 weeks) and know who I would take advice from.

    Do what you feel is right for you and keep on keeping on.

  • posted by  FatBloke on Day 1 – Calories
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    Hi,

    Just completed my first day and as I thought I could not complete my calories for the day on MFP as they are below 1000.

    This what I have eaten so people can compare notes

    Breakfast
    Protein shake

    Lunch
    Chicken breast peas and sweetcorn

    Dinner
    2 slices smoked ham and a boiled egg
    high protein yoghurt

    loads of black coffee, herbal tea and water.

    Totals for the day:

    Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sugar
    787 48 14 110 30

    Cheers

    Chris aka FB

  • Having now achieved my original goal of getting into the normal range of BMI , I know that I will never return to my old ways of eating.
    That said , because life is busy and things can creep up on you when you are looking the other way there is a small possibility that I may add weight so have decided to weigh myself daily as that is what I have been doing first thing in the morning and also keep my records daily too in my notebook.
    I will continue to log in here once a week to record figures as this will help keep me accountable to myself. I will continue until the last day of this year and then re-assess.
    I am really happy with the weight loss, change in shape etc but have a few loose wobbly bits still and feel that a few more pounds will naturally come off if I keep within all the parameters I set myself.
    I plan to keep up the walking and also do a weekly swim (proper commitment on the calendar-there are 3 over 50’s sessions that I can utilize at times that fit in with my pattern of daily life). Longer term I plan to not renew my “my fitness pal account” once the annual renewal date is near but will download/photocopy lots of the days and make them into a little magazine/book to use as an aide memoire.
    Can’t decide which day of the week I will commit to yet as I have a lot on at the moment so will look at the year planner and start soon.

  • posted by  tigs on My eight weeks….
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    Overdid the pizza by about 6 more bites – 877 cals all up so I’ll take that. Trade off of higher carbs for less protein and fat. A good end to the week though and hoping I can do that on a Friday or Saturday when it’s pretty social

    Exercise focus today

    Hope you are doing well

    tigsxx

  • posted by  Imogen on Hello :-)
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    Hi Yowser๐Ÿ™‹๐ŸŒป๐ŸŽถ

    Yes still here, just been laid low by a virus, so not been posting, or doing much of anything really… How are you?

    So today was first weigh in for a few days and I finally hit my mini goal by reaching 95kg…that last kg took a few weeks!!! Although I still need to drop another 20+kg have decided to take today to fully appreciate dropping into the 14 stone bracket at last… will reset next goal tomorrow๐Ÿ˜‡

    How’s the rest of the gang? Has gone quiet recently, though perhaps that is natural as we move into ‘veteran’ territory…??

    Thanks for the reminder to post though – love to read everyone’s stories and want to keep in touch with all the fantastic BSD buddies – hi folks ๐Ÿ™Œ

  • posted by  CallMeDeb on Hello (From Canada)? It's me. Again. Round Two
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    Hello Again!

    I’ve been MIA for over three months and I apologize. Life happened, as per usual.

    I got a blood infection and was hospitalized for awhile and then my Diabetes team and I were fooling with my meds to an almost dire end. I’m good now though. Only gained back 10 lbs or so <– I am counting that as a win.

    With my Diabetes Team (my GP, an intern, and a clinical pharmacist) on board, we are ready to do this again. Hopefully we will stick it out for the full 8 weeks as I REALLY need a new dresser (see profile for Goals & Reward Scheme).

    I look forward to catching up.

    Cheers,

    Deb

  • Hi! Can I join?

    I’m a 42-year-old female, slow loser, coming off a typical SAD diet (lots of refined grains, fried foods, potatoes, etc.). I fortunately don’t have a craving/desire for sugary things like soda or pie or cake, so rarely eat those types of treats, but I can easily eat enough pasta in one meal for a family of 6.

    I started on Monday and so far, so good. Most days I fast through breakfast, and sometimes I fast through lunch. Then I eat a low carb dinner and low carb bedtime snack. I may overdo it on dairy and nuts right now, but I’ll cut back when my weight loss stalls.

    So far I’ve lost 4 pounds, but I am an experienced dieter, so I know it’s glycogen/water stores.

    Friday and Saturdays are my “food fun” days usually, so I am hoping I can make it through them without too much damage. Plan tonight is taco salad.

    Great to meet everyone!

  • posted by  Poppetini on New start for a new life!
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    Wow Coady – good on you. Lovely to hear.

    Although I managed to stick to low carbs yesterday, my nibbling of antipasti type meats and veg, plus a wrong-reading of the calories brought me in at nearly 1400 kcal’s.

    Nibbling. That appears to be my speciality โ€ฆ those little snibbles that suck me in, by their littleness.

    Practiced harder today – still had some nibbles: artichokes in oil; 2 teaspoons peanut butter; mixed nuts (not roasted). So, healthy nibbles, but ended up missing out on breakfast (which I strangely didn’t mind, so maybe that’s an option for me).

    Tonight will be a test. Off round to one of my favourite foodie friends house โ€ฆ and I’m one of her best foodie friends (we are the only chubsters in our whole social group), and I’m going to not join in with the foodie thing. OMG. I actually feel a mixture of ‘not fun’ and as though I’m letting her down (even though I know that I’m doing a great thing for me).

    Or with the wine (good excuse though, as I’m driving).

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Hello :-)
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    1960 i’ m sorry you were knocked off track temporarily by the diabetic dietician xx i’ m sure she meant well,but when are they gonna catch up…i guess its gonna take time
    Maybe everyone on this site shd get in touch with MM and ask him to look at whats happening on these forums and publish our results/ make another tv programme. There seems to be a revolution going on and the medics havent caught onto it yet. The ordinary people are listening to MM but not the medical profession.

    as for yr little relapse,it happens now and then, i can understand how she rained on yr parade a bit which is upsetting,and what do we automatically do when we feel discombobulated..we reach for our comfort of choice,whether that be wine,spirits,cigarettes,drugs or food!
    For us on here,its usually food and / or booze! It never happens to be a few berries tho does it or some cucumber slices! Its always the sugary choccy starchy things we’ve been conditioned thru life to see as appealing by the insidious advertising industry and the big junkfood companies ..they have so much to answer for!
    Like you said tho..youve learnt a lesson so now its onwards and downwards! X ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜

  • posted by  Poppetini on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    loving the positivity โ€ฆ especially the potential excitement of reading that new interlibrary book in bed with the flannel sheets ๐Ÿ™‚ decadent cosiness!

    I haven’t had time to post today – so yesterday’s positives are:

    1. Moving the dining table – by myself into a room where the girls can study. Yippee. This girl can!

    2. I walked just shy of 12km. This is remarkable. Truly. (small dog still wasn’t tired out, but I was)

    3. Walked around my garden, really taking time to appreciate the plants and insects.

  • posted by  1960smp on Hello :-)
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    True Igor but sadly it knocked me off slightly and I hit a carb comfort instead of remaining resilient BUT am not staying there ( thank goodness learning something )
    So, yes agree with you and it’s my body and my health we are talking about
    Guess the fact am on insulin due to the meds am taking for my condition gave her cause for concern and she said what she said due to not knowing any different….

  • posted by  Igorasusual on Hello :-)
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    Carry on trucking 1960smp. ๐Ÿ™‚

    We are with you, as are the really successful BSDers who have completed and triumphed.

    We will make the difference in the end, one Type 2 ‘in remission’ at a time.

    Think how great it will be when you can go back and she will have to concede that Dr MM and you (and all of us) were right ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  • posted by  1960smp on Hello :-)
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    Yowzer Thanku

    Feeling a tad deflated as diabetic dietician rang me today
    I told her am doing this diet and why
    She was like well that is way too low and concerned that about my diabetes etc and to up the calories to 1200

    It feels uphill at times!

  • posted by  Coady on NOT losing :-< *Looking 4 female 2 female advice
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    Hi doordie
    Thanks and I love the sound of the banana trick and will try it out , I hope it don’t take too long before you are sorted ,we are lucky in the uk I know some slag the NHS but we would be up the creek without a paddle if we never had it , from the time I went to Drs and went to hospital was on four months and free

  • posted by  Igorasusual on My path to wellness
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    Go for it pgates ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

    Drink drink drink
    Don’t get hung up about weight, keep measuring and trying on ‘target’ clothes
    Do each day each day – if you fall off the wagon, no worries, just jump back on as quickly as you like

    Lots of ‘miracles’ have happened here, you be another one ๐Ÿ™‚

    And keep us posted – use the search box for reams of good advice and experience already here, as well as asking anything you need.

  • posted by  topcac on Started 3 days ago
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    I’ve been a sugar free squash drinker all my life and really don’t like water. I’ve found that lime cordial is the lowest in carbs – so 0.1g per 250ml made up as directed (and I always make it weaker). I drink my first litre of the day as squash because it’s easier to get it down me, then the rest of the day drink water and herbal tea – it doesn’t seem to affect my cravings so I’m sticking with it!

  • posted by  pgates on My path to wellness
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    Hello everyone. I am a disabled nurse and carb addict. I eased into this over 2days while reading the book. Followed low carb Mediterranean about 1400 calories first day and 950 the next. This is day 1 and feel motivated and ready to roll. Brunch today an omelette with mushrooms, onion and taste of cheddar. Tasted great and at 315 calories will leave me plenty for dinner.

    Wt 330 lbs
    Waist 55 ”
    Bmi 53.3
    Fasting bs 92

    I really need this to work. Will journal my course as I go. Plan a trip to my Dr soon.

  • posted by  Doordie on NOT losing :-< *Looking 4 female 2 female advice
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    LOL! No, the Gynie’s ok, I guess – lord, knows, I’ve had worse. Want to hear sad, Frogie? There are no private gynies where I am. ( I live in a rural, farming community , about an hour, or so, just south of Fargo, ND. ) In fact, there are only two clinics in the whole area. Each clinic has only two gynies. One gynie is out on leave till mid-January, and the other one is booked solid till February. I had to drive 40 minutes, on a country road, behind a combine for much of the way, to a clinic in a neighboring town, up in Minnesota – just to get an appointment! That clinic has two gynies, but both stay pretty booked. We have a horrible, HORRIBLE shortage of docs over here! The poor First Nation gals have it even worse – the doulas usually deliver their babies, as they can seldom make it in time to the town, and there is only one visiting gynie, that comes once a month! UGHhhhhhh! It’s either that, or haul it up to Fargo – an hour, one way – 1.5 hours once the snows come :-< I miss BC so much! I didn’t know how good I had it – just walked down the hill to clinic – never needed an appointment, no “co-pay”, cheap, or free scripts… *SIGH* We live and we learn, eh?

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Hello :-)
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    1960 you can do this! Xx Stay strong and you will begin to even enjoy this! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
    Yoohoo wakeywakey where are all our friends! Anyone coming out to play?!

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on 1st week amazement
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    Well done CMAWP woohhoooo! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
    I’ m like you ,its week 12 and i’m still sticking to it like a stamp to a letter..havent been weighed for over a week but my clothes are telling mei’m continuing to lose
    MAZZAWAZZAWOO Love yr name! Hope youre off to a good start..first week can be tricky,you might feel tired as your body adjusts..if so,grit yr teeth,it will pass xx

  • posted by  Doordie on NOT losing :-< *Looking 4 female 2 female advice
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    UPDATE : Well, I went to the Gynie. He wasn’t mean, or anything – just a bit apathetic. ( I think likely tired, and overworked. ) Anyhow, he sent me for my labs – only thyroid, and iron, though. I was really hoping he would do a full panel :-< He said the nurse will call next week to schedule me for procedures. ( I have to have a tissue sample, pap smear, and a few other things. ) I suppose we will have to just wait and see, now ;-/

    *I have good news… I got on the scale, and woosh – 3lbs gone – FINALLY!!! I hate to say it but I think that progesterone cream might have been doing me more of a mischief, than I thought. ( I got on an all natural, bio-identical progesterone cream, a while back, at the suggestion of someone I know, who has medical training, and some experience with hormone issues. I did it to control the bleeding. ) Not only did it not help; I think it might have made things worse. It gave me chin acne, too >;-[ I’ve been off it for 10 days, maybe a fortnight? Anyhow, the bleeding is much better, and the acne is gone, and the scale seems to be moving again =]

    ***FOR ANY WOMAN READING THIS – IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND PUDGE STILL WON’T BUDGE – GET YOUR HORMONE LEVELS CHECKED, AND BEWARE OF HRT, AND “NATURAL HORMONE CREAMS”! I’m not saying that taking hormones is bad. I’m just saying – BE CAREFUL. Hormone treatment is not a “one size fits all” thing.

  • posted by  LolaB on First day!
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    Hi Flash12,

    I’m four days in and I’m doing pretty good. The first three days was a killer! I would love to join you and share ideas. I still have a lot of weight to lose as well and I need all the motivation I can get. How are you doing on the diet thus far?

  • posted by  Doordie on NOT losing :-< *Looking 4 female 2 female advice
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    A stone – WOW! CONGRATULATIONS, Coady!!!

    * I know a skinny Banana “trick”… Next time you are in the green grocer, look for something called “butter bananas” / “finger bananas”. They are literally half the size, or less of the standard banana, and they have the most awesome taste – buttery and sweet! Find plain, Greek yoghurt; add a bit of stevia, and a few drops of rum, banana, or vanilla extract. Mix well. Take one of those little bananas, coat it in the yoghurt, sprinkled with toasted coconut, and freeze. Oh, man is it devine, and only a fraction of the carbs of a large banana =]

  • I’ve just had a re-read of the early pages of this thread. Sad to see so many names that don’t crop up any more. Maybe they’re posting on other threads and I just haven’t spotted them. Hope so. One thing I did come across is Verano’s recipe for courgetti with tomato, anchovy and caper sauce. Now that will definitely appeal to OH. He’s supposedly not dieting yet (starting end of next week) but he’s already losing weight simply because I’m not cooking the usual carbs, though he’s still having bread and wine with meals. I’m going to be green with envy when he gets going for real.

    Tabletalk, you’ll have hit your 162 pounds by the time I get back from the wedding, and I for sure will no longer be anywhere near 83.5, even assuming I make it. But never mind. My next aim will be to get into the 70s by the end of October. At that point, I’ll be in nigh-on uncharted territory. I have no idea when I last weighed anything starting with a 7.

  • posted by  cmawp on 1st week amazement
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    Thanks mazzawazzawoo. I’ve just followed the book to the letter, tried not to snack between meals and have been drinking lots of water and an occasional herbal tea, black coffee or diet drink.

    The BSD is amazing. I almost don’t want to tell anyone about it!

  • posted by  Flash21 on Hello All!
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    Very nice to meet you too!

    Injuries suck, don’t they? I’m really frustrated at the moment. Even walking is terribly painful for me. I’m trying not to rush things as I know that just sets me back but at the same time I hate not being able to do anything.

    I’m definitely going to try to avoid giving myself breaks. I know they don’t work for me! I always have that little voice in the back of my head trying to tempt me down the carbs road but I am going to ignore it! Feeling positive today as is my day 4 and I have lost 7lbs. I have also started my own thread, so feel free to pop over there at any time!

    https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/so-it-starts-today-my-8-week-at-least-diary/

  • posted by  Flash21 on Started 3 days ago
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    Fellow squash drinker here! I’m ok with plain old water but much prefer something with flavour. I always have sugar-free squash and it would be awful to give it up! Some things are not negotiable ๐Ÿ™‚ I have managed to cut back on tea to only one or two cups a day – sometimes with milk, sometimes without. Coffee is vile! Also not sure I’d have been able to resist a buffet so all credit to you!

  • posted by  Flash21 on Countdown to 20th November!
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    Hello Caz123!

    I also (re)started this week! I think if you’ve already managed five days you can definintely stick to this plan. I am in roughly the same place as you: today is my day 4 and I have lost 7lbs. I am quite excited about this as I don’t find it very easy to lose weight at all. It gives me some kind of determination to carry on! I need to work on a lot of stuff like portion sizes and beating cravings but I feel like I’ve made a good start ๐Ÿ™‚

    I think this plan will help you with your blood pressure as it should drop as the weight comes off. Not wanting to go back on medication is a good motivator for you! Glad to hear your headache has cleared up.

    Looking forward to hearing more of your progress!

  • posted by  Flash21 on First day!
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    Hey LolaB!

    How are you getting on? I hope your first day went well. I’m happy to be your buddy on here and through the BSD journey ๐Ÿ™‚ I’ve got a lot to lose and started only this week (well, a restart really!). Would be nice to share ideas.

  • posted by  Caz123 on Countdown to 20th November!
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    So technically I have already started – I started this on Monday – but wanted to get an idea of whether this was something I would / could stick with before leaping in there and creating a diary of my 8 weeks that never got written in again. So far so good – so here I am!

    This is day 5 for me. I’ve decided that I’m going to weigh daily, and that means that I know that I have already lost 7lbs :). I’m not kidding myself – this isn’t my first diet, I know it’ll mostly be water, but it’s very motivating :).

    I’m here because my blood pressure is high – far too high really. I’m hoping that doing this will bring it down – I don’t want to have to go back on the medication – I’ve been on it before, and it didn’t like me! But have to be realistic with myself and if this 8 weeks doesn’t work then I’ll have to go see the GP about it.

    So far – day one and two were fine and I found it a lot easier to stick to 800 calories than I expected. Days three and four were more difficult – I had a persistent dull headache and felt exhausted by lunchtime, however so far today seems to be a turning point – the headache hasn’t shown up and I’m still able to function and it’s now 4pm ๐Ÿ™‚

    Well that’s me and my week one so far in a very short nutshell. I hope anyone reading this is having a good week!

  • posted by  MuscleMomma on Hello All!
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    So nice to meet you all!

    Lily girl, thanks for the advice! I workout 3-4 times a week at a bootcamp (HITT style) so those extra calories will be very helpful ๐Ÿ™‚

    Flash, I totally understand how you feel. I messed my ankle up really back in 2006 and was booted for 6 months. I have injured it twice since (and the horrible boot came back D:). Don’t rush physical healing or you can hurt yourself again like I did lol! It good to know someone else that has issues with “breaks” ๐Ÿ™‚ keep me posted on your progress as well.

    igorasusal thanks for the link!

  • posted by  shalimar on Why am I not losing?
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    Thanks K9zz re the cream ๐Ÿ™‚ … it is a fat … but i think the carbs in it are simple … and my own problems is that i use so much cream in the day … i can easily use 10 g. of carbs per day. I think that’s one of my worst habits … both with fats and carbs.

  • posted by  Gooberz on New start for a new life!
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    Hello all,
    Frog thanks for webpage on low carbs. It was a real help. Depressing regarding fruit but it’s gotta be avoided.
    Coady, wow, amazing a stone!!! I’m day 4 now and the only thing I’m lossing is my sanity! Actually I’m only going to weigh myself weekly so got a few days to go.
    My headache has finally gone as I had to take some paracetamol for it eventually.I also had a terrible hypo at 1.30am two nights ago. I’ve never had one at night before. Ate a peach and nectarine to recover. I’ve brought my insulin down from 50units a night to 20units. No excessive highs or lows since. I did go to the GP and asked for a blood test to check that I didn’t have slow onset type 1! He stared at me like I was insane and said he had never heard of it!!! I told him to speak to someone who had and get back to me. I’ve been called back on Monday. Let’s see what happens?
    I have the recipes in the 8 week book theangelwithin, do you suggest another recipe book?
    Wishing you all a good and healthy weekend!
    Candi

  • posted by  FatBloke on Sugar Addiction
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    Coffee and Herbal tea all day.

    I got the results of my blood test for diabetes and cholesterol.

    The diabetes is negative I am in the high end for blood sugar 42 being top of normal and me being at 40.

    Cholesterol 7.1 with HDL at 1.4 so there is no action from the doc’s for any of this.

    But hopefully with this diet my numbers should drop.

  • posted by  shalimar on Week of 9/26 starters let's keep each other on track!
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    Hey i just lost 100 pounds in the last hour ……………. misprint …. i am 236 pounds nor 336 pounds ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

    I think of Miracle Whip as mayonnaise with extra lemon. I even make an easy tarter sauce with just Miracle Whip and green relish.

    p.s. Just tried Oikos Greek Yogurt with frozen raspberries … 1/2 c yogurt and 1/4 c. raspberries …. if you like tart, and i do …. that was gooooddd!!

  • posted by  Igorasusual on Hello All!
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    Good luck to both of you!

    Just to say it really does seem to be about the carb content rather than sticking religiously to the calories.

    If you are working out, you can increase the calories but keep the carbs at 50g per day (cutting out the refined carbs of course) and that should be effective.

    I found the following website helpful in planning the nutritional breakdown so have a look and see if it helps http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

  • posted by  topcac on Starting BSD 12th September
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    I’m just avoiding the canteen – seems to be ok at the moment….but I’m in charge of ‘clear up’ – wonder how much of that will be into my mouth!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • posted by  Igorasusual on ready to start
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    Just to add to sunshine-girl’s comments – you can get an app such as MyFitnessPal or FatSecret – there are others too, all free – which let you enter in things like coffee, milk and companies’ coffees such as Starbucks etc. You can also get the nutritional content from the net on companies’ websites.

    Using an app helps you add everything up (measure exactly how much milk that “dash” is in your tea/coffee – you may be surprised!) and then you can add it in to your calories/carbs

    An app also keeps you accountable and helps you plan so you don’t succumb to two cappuccinos and find you’ve no calories left for dinner. ๐Ÿ™

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on ready to start
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    Hi, I don’t drink tea but do have one coffee per day with semi skimmed milk, I count it into my calories and carbs and it comes out at 20 calories and 2 carbs. If it was more than one a day I would have to think twice about using up maybe 80 or 100 cals on 4 or 5 cups. I drink green tea with lemon so nothing to count but it is recommended you stick to water if you are a bit of a teapot.

  • posted by  shalimar on Week of 9/26 starters let's keep each other on track!
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    Weighed in yesterday at 336 pounds. This week has been going a lot better than last.

    Blood sugars except for 1 reading was under 10.

    Nice flavour combination this morning : can of solid tuna in water, drained, with 1 tbsp. of Miracle Whip mayonnaise and a handful of chopped celery …. and 1/3 or so of sliced cucumber …. never tried that combo before and it was great.