Hi,

Thanks for the advice. I used the calculator ( http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/ ) to target a 40%,40%,20% (carbs, protein, fats)split, but the fats came out very low (80g, 80g, 18g) with a warning! Is this ratio incorrect for this diet?

To move the fats consumption into the healthy range (49g) and setting 60g for Protein, the Carbs value goes to 30g (15%, 30%, 55%).

I compared this to the last three days, using myfitnesspal, and these are numbers extrapolated:

Day – kcal (Carbs, Protein, Fats) – Exercise kcal
Day 1 – 840(74g, 64g, 21g) – 1098kcal
Day 2 – 1,375(139g, 65g, 56g) – 918kcal (I felt light-headed for most of the day)
Day 3 – 840 (66g, 80g, 28g) – no exercise
Day 4 – today

Apart from noticing that I cannot stick to 800kcal!, is my ratio of carbs to protein and fats incorrect? What should I be targeting to not feel light-headed after doing exercise?

My dad was /is total teapot – the dr told him to go on to caffeine free tea back when it was almost unheard of, because he was drinking so much tea. He had to learn to face teabags instead of loose tea for the first time. He would have a full pot even if only him and top it up to stew some more…. I used to joke that there were only 2 reasons why he would not have a pot on – asleep or out of the house! Unsurprisingly I have been able to make tea for as long as I can remember yet coffee was totally absent until my future brother in law was brought home. As a child I apparently refused tea right from the start, as a teenager I found coffee to be equally yuck.

As for ignoring work buffet – WOW! Pat yourself on the back. I can avoid what is not there, but cave in when I have it under my nose, such is my limited willpower….

That’s really interesting Igorasusual .

I’ve just checked a few packaged goods on Fatsecret , such as Nairns oatcakes, and the packet shows ‘available’ carbohydrates and the amount of those carbs that are sugar. In a separate heading it has the fibre content. Fatsecret shows the ‘available’ carbs as ‘carbs’ then subtracts the ‘fibre’ giving a ‘net ‘ figure!!! This is plainly wrong!!

Anybody using Fatsecret needs to be careful when including ‘manufactured’ foods. The carb value is the ‘net’ value.

Igorasusual do we count the net carb figure for fresh foods?

Hi. I’m on day 4. Going really well 1/2 stone down (I know probably just water), but my concern is that in comparison to normal , my fibre is very low. I track my food usually on My Fitness Pal so have continued. I’m not eating the quantity of veg that I usually eat. Still lots of variety and all the lower carb types. What have other people found? I usually add oat bran to my morning food but have stopped this due to the high carb content. Any thoughts?

Thanks Avila. I would like to cut back a bit on tea. I rarely drink coffee but I’m a proper tea pot! I’m waiting for the dramatic come down from no sugar (refined type, I’m still eating berries) but I’m amazed that it feels fine. I sometimes think that it’s more about where my head is when I’m trying to lose weight and this determines my success. I regularly exercise usually, so I’m just stepping it up a little. Managed to ignore a buffet today at a work training event, it took all my willpower!! Just ate my little box of food!

Although I have been around most of the other forums, mainly Welcome, I am starting my own first foray into BSD Fast 800 on Monday too, so will keep dropping in here to see how it is going. I have already lost 6 stone, with the last three being due to my discovery of the 5:2 version of this diet, although I have been working up to the full fast by progressing from 5:2 to 4:3 to 2:5 which is where I am at the moment. I am going away to Cornwall this weekend and will be eating (and drinking) whatever comes, but on Monday I will be joining the strict measurement club again. Best of luck with your new beginning on Monday. My mid term-goal is to get into the top end of my healthy weight bracket before Christmas.

Still going strong Babs, well done! Emphatic non diabetes is great! Hopefully you husbands numbers will also drop too.

I’m actually on holiday in Spain this week so alcohol intake has been higher than in recent months. BUT desserts, ice creams and sweet treats are still not really on the radar – I’ve definitely kicked the sweet tooth. My biggest pitfall this week has been bread, , but I’ll get back on track when we get back to U.K. This weekend.

Onwards and downwards!

Net carbs are total carbs less fibre.

In the UK the carbs shown on packaging ARE net carbs.

Net carbs are what we count.

Hope that helps 🙂

Me too.. Day 3.

Hello again. Good news on the first mini- weigh in – 2lb down after three days. Enough to keep me going anyway.

Fish and Mediterranean vegetables, from the new recipe book, tonight.

Not hungry. Rather thirsty, and I’m not doing enough to keep up with that.

Also, rather tired. I feel exhausted reading about 10,000 steps! Well done. Maybe tomorrow …
Good luck all x

Doordie … the final operation was just the hysterectomy … because my ovaries were already gone. They thought i had a tubal pregnancy so they took one tube and ovary out … but i got a post surgical infection and they ended up taking out the other ovary. Then i had the continuous painful period … so they did the hysterectomy.

I did fine. I’m actually still taking a low dose estrogen decades later — but i seldom remember to take the pill unless i’m hot flashing.

P.S. there are still old fossils around!!!

P.S.S. …. i still feel “randy”… but my sex life sucked the same before and after. I still appreciate** a good** book!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 even when i haven’t taken my estrogen!

Hi Plumptious,
What a tremendous achievement! I’ve just read this entire thread in total admiration. I’ve got an awful long way to go, but stories like yours, and especially your comments in your post earlier today, are a tremendous inspiration. Congratulations to you and your partner.

Hi Poppetini!!! ,,,, saw you in the other thread.

I realized yesterday that if i’m reaching for liquor or simple carbs … or just eating a ton … that there is something wrong and i had better figure out what it is and how to respond to the problem other than with food. Or just to acknowledge the problem and my feelings about it and figure out how to be at peace with it.

Hanks, hubby cook the red thai curry on Monday while I was at zumba class. It was really good, I had cauliflower rice and he had nothing with it, guess that is why he is doing well too, not diabetic or overweight but just developing a little tum.

Tonight I am making the lamb tagine.

Those are great ones …. especially love finding the silver linings.

Today i add

… had cheese omelette with bacon at mall restaurant after aquabics (no toast, no fries, no tomatoes) and the waitress just charged me for the cheese omelette plate …. FREE BACON!!! 🙂

Just carbs, not sure what net carbs are

Hi Shy,

Yup, Fatbloke is right, Bran Flakes are quite carby. Bananas too. And while nuts are good fats, watch out for the calories. Another really helpful poster on these threads – Igorasusual – has recommended this calculator to figure out your macros: http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/ I hope it helps!

Hi Treelady, there are quite a few recipes on this website, plus more in the BSD diet book and recipe book that’s just come out. In my case, however, I cook my own recipes but adapt them to an overall 800 calories per day for me and then add beans, pasta, potatoes or rice for everyone else, or simply give them larger servings.

Congratulations on your anniversary. Hope you have a great weekend and a good start to next week. I found the early weight loss a big motivator to carry on, and there’s plenty of inspiration and support to be had on here.

I RESISTED CAKE! I still really want it. Nutella was involved. But no, I had a satsuma instead (a nicer one than the one from the bottom of my bag yesterday) 🙂

Mmmm hardboiled eggs, scrambled eggs, bacon……I want them all!!

Mmmm….I don’t think meal replacement would be very satisfying 🙁 Going down the real food route would better teach you what to eat, how to assess carb/sugar count, portion sizes etc. You can also learn to cook or improve cooking skills, try new recipes and so on.

“some” could be any number 🙂

Krysia must be great when clothes are too big! Looking forward to the day!!!

42 carbs is great sunshine-girl! Most people would be over the moon with that. I know it more than 30g but it’s still very acceptable and your net carbs will be less. Also 30 is just an arbitrary figure.

I’m sure that this question has probably been answered a hundred times but do we count carbs or net carbs? I just count carbs.

Dear All,
just a quick email to say that I will be starting the BSD on Monday and I am quite nervous about it. I am edging towards 13 stone and want to get back down into the 11 stone somethings and winter time is when I put on weight before losing a bit in the spring / summer again.

I love anything sugary and carb loaded (cakes, biscuits, buns) and I am not sure how I will get through the first week with out those. I have read some of the other helpful posts and will try out all the tips – so fingers crossed.

My other half is gluten intolerant but has an extremely physical job as a tree surgeon and so doesn’t need to lose weight, but I do all the cooking for both of us. If any one can provide hearty filling autumn / winter recipes that would suit us both that would be fab, as I really don’t fancy cooking his and hers meals every day.

Anyway, it’s our 7th wedding anniversary this weekend, and we are away for a dinner, bed and breakfast break in a lovely hotel down on Exmoor, hence the choice to start on Monday.

Looking forward to getting through this journey with you all,

all the best
Bt

I used to take a hard boiled egg to work to eat, and then a colleague started too, no one complained about the smell- well, not to me anyway!

Hello. So 3 stones is 42 lbs I believe. Did you lose that in the first 8 weeks? Do u mind me asking your starting weight? I am on day 2 of my first 8 weeks. I have a 100 lbs to lose. Would love those kind of results as well! Great job!!!

Hi sunshine-girl 4lbs isn’t really too much!!
Sure you’ll be able to do that before mid October!

I am just starting out so no expert but I do know that Bran Flakes have a load of sugar in them.

I do not have too much really some doughnuts, yoghurts, cheesecake and chocolate snack bars.

Just working out if I am going to do the meal replacement or real food.

Crikey, Chris, how much sweet stuff have you got in the house? If you’ve got a lot, I’m not sure eating all of it in one day is a good idea. If you really can’t bear to chuck it out, why not have a few days lead in to the diet, gradually reducing the amount of sugary stuff and carbs to a point where you have none left in the house and you are ready to cut the calories? Your body will be struggling if you put loads of sugar in it all in one go.

Best of luck with the diet in any case. You’d be surprised how quickly you can lose the sugar craving.

Hi Babs,
I’ve just read this thread and just wanted to say congratulations to you and your husband. What a fantastic outcome. That “emphatically no” must have given you a tremendous sense of achievement and pride. Looking forward to reading more of your posts.

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

> Have wonderful images of you eating up all the sweet stuff in the cupboards!

It is not pretty I can tell you!

> You’re going to have one hell of a comedown!

So true tomorrow I am going to be such a bundle of fun, good job I am working from home. :O)

Will keep you all updated.

Cheers

FB

Welcome Purplespice!

I am also insulin resistant and find losing weight incredibly difficult. I started this plan a couple of weeks ago and lost about 3lbs in one week (before putting it all back on again when I went away and didn’t follow the diet at all!). I’m restarting this week with a much more determined attitude. As Snoop says, these forums are amazing for support, inspiration, ideas, recipes and more. You can search them using the little box in the top right hand corner of the screen if there is something specific you want to find out about. If I may, my main advice would be:

Prepare, prepare and prepare! Write shopping lists, plan meals, scope out restaurant menus before you go. This will keep you on the straight and narrow!
Drink water. Lots and lots of water. Still or sparkling. Hyrdration is key but the water will also flush out nasties and help you to feel full.
Don’t beat yourself up if you fall of the wagon in the early days (or even later on). You are learning and finding your feet. If you succumb to something you shouldn’t, note why that might have happened but then forget about it and make sure you make a better choice next time.
Fat is your friend! This one is the weirdest one to get used to, I think. But go for full fat cream and yoghurt, use proper butter and olive oil, use avocados and nuts. This will really help with satiety and keep you from turning to carbs.

You’ve got this! Keep us posted 🙂

Well, wish me luck, ladies… I’m cleaning up the place, finishing a workout, getting my ca-ca together, and I’ll be off to see the new gynie! *insert anxious sigh* Yankee docs make me a bit nervous. I’ve had a couple of mean/irritable ones, and one weird one…

***Horrible true, ( swear to god, or whatever passes as such ), story : I was newly married, and had gone to see the gynie for a possible yeast infection. He was old as dirt, and grouchy as a grizzly. He fussed at me for not douching, ( I have chemical sensitivities – don’t even wear make up, or perfume ), and told me that I needed to keep it “finger-licking good” at all times :-O Then, called both my husband, ( he had brought me to the appointment ), and I into his office, and proceeded to talk directly to my husband, and hand him the scripts!!! I felt like a sick bitch, that had been off to the vet :-< ( This was back in the 80’s, so no, they hopefully don’t do stuff like that anymore! ) Still, it was an “experience”, to say the least.

Now that would cause a reaction- the smell of bacon! It’s making me hungry thinking about it!!

Hello again Pamela,

I don’t think making m/wave scrambled eggs smells too eggy! But if there is an aroma in your office just open the window 😉 Once people see you losing weight with your new way of eating they’ll be begging for them too! I forgot to say in my last post that if you fancy something to go with your eggs you can also do bacon in the microwave. Do it on a plate with some kitchen roll on top and it should come out nice and crispy!

This should now be called Week 20, day 4.

Firstly I have now lost 2st 2.5lbs in 20 weeks. I went to see my endocrinologist for the first time since he pointed a finger at me and said “You are diabetic” five months ago. My blood sugar had spiked for one day only (which happened to be the day of my blood test) from pre-diabetic into the diabetic range. It has now dropped back into the lower pre-diabetic range. He was delighted that I had managed to lose so much weight and get my blood sugar down so I asked him whether I am still diabetic and he answered “emphatically no”. Last time I saw him he was concerned that I had a fatty liver and sent me for an ultrasound. I waited until I had been doing BSD for six weeks before doing the test. He looked at the result today and it says that there is very little fat round my liver.

So a good result all round. I still have a lot of weight to shift and I really want to get my blood sugar level right out of pre-diabetic so I will press on.

My husband, who is type 2, has just changed back from Januet (which is very expensive here) to metformin and we will see how he gets on with that.

Hey FatBloke!

Have wonderful images of you eating up all the sweet stuff in the cupboards! I haven’t done that yet although I’ve started the diet so I know there are still tempting items in there. Must clean it out!

I have ridiculous cravings. I always want something sweet after lunch and dinner (and most likely inbetween as well…). The things I am finding helpful are:

Sparkling water with no-sugar squash to give a sweet-ish taste
1 or 2 squares of really good quality dark chocolate
Peppermint tea (also helps with bloating and general soothing)
And peanut butter like Timmy. Although I haven’t even got the healthy natural stuff, just a jar from Asda. I LOVE peanut butter and could eat a whole jar, but that’s probably how I’ve ended up here so will have to restrain myself. A little teaspoon is ok here and there
Sugar free jelly – Hartleys do one (find in Sainsburys or Asda) which is only 10cals per pot
Hot choc (can make with water if necessary) – but definitely check the carbs and cals as all brands are not alike!
Small satsuma or a few berries

You will find that your cravings diminish. This happened to me before I derailed my first week on BSD by going away for the weekend. Now I’m back on the wagon and hoping that the cravings will reduce again. Sometimes it’s just a case of telling yourself no. Other times the cravings monster might be too big to beat, but try some of the alternatives and see how you get on. An absolute necessity is to keep drinking water. Lots of it and then some more again. The more you drink, the better hydrated you are but also the less hungry you’ll feel. If you can keep hunger at bay you will also tame the cravings better.

Good luck! Let us know how you get on 🙂

If you are using myfitnesspal what are suggested macros for a day?

Oh, so so to hear you had to go through so much so soon <3

Shalimar, if you don’t mind my asking, did you have a partial, or a complete hysterectomy?

If I went that route, I would need a complete, as I have both uterine fibroids, and ovarian cysts :-<

*POSSIBLE TMI WARNING : I am scared of the downtime, the possible bad side-effects, but I am also scared of something else… I have heard many women say that a hysterectomy can not only reduce your libido, but hamper, ( eradicate even? ), normal sexual function, ( orgasm ) :-O

My husband is an engineer, ( high-stress position ), and he works a lot. Sadly, we are arguing more than usual, due to homesickness, and problems settling here. We both miss BC, ( Canada ), horribly, and are doubting our decision to relocate here. Sex, when it actually happens, is one of the few good things in my life right now. I don’t want to mess that up ={

😂😂 when Dr M said you need to clear out all of the sugary things in your house, I don’t think he meant into your mouth. You’re going to have one hell of a comedown!

Anyway, back to question. I can honestly say that I very rarely crave anything sweet now. Previously I used to smash in a chocolate bar/cake after every meal but I don’t fancy them any more.

I did have a cheat to wean me off them though, and that was peanut butter (meridian, no added anything). Although it isn’t actually seeet it satiated that desire, and was an absolute lifesaver for the first few weeks

Oh, no worries. My stepdad is from Cambridge; I have a lot of family down in County Cork, Ireland, and we were stationed outside of London, and over in Cardiff, for a bit, so I know all about the NHS! Need a laugh? I had a friend whose Mum was a retired NHS worker, and she used to whinge worse that anyone about it – LOL! I could always tell when she was getting ready to have a rant… It would begin : “Blimey, do you know what those bloody boffins have done now?!?”

Still… All kidding aside… Trust me, Frog – I’ll take the NHS, with all of it’s issues, or just good old Canadian medical, over the complete, and utter shite we have down in the States! It is the worst – all private, and damned expensive. Besides, many of the docs are “in bed” with the big pharmaceutical companies, and you can’t always trust the advice, or the scripts >;-[ ( For any overly sensitive people here – no, I am not Yankee-bashing. I love my birth country; I just hate the medical system. )

*To any non-US poster : If you really want to feel better about your healthcare system… Download a movie called “Sicko”, by Michael Moore. It details many of the problems those of us in the States deal with, as well has general issues facing users of privatized healthcare. It is a real eye-opener :-<

Hi,

I am starting BSD tomorrow and was wondering how have people dealt with their sugar addiction?

Today I am eating all the sweet stuff in the house … I mean someone has to do it right?

Thanks

Chris

MyFitnessPal will not let you complete your calories for the day if you are under 1200 for a man and 1000 for a women. Just means you do not get an estimate of your weight if you stuck to the same calories for 5 weeks.

It is useful for seeing the macro nutrients of your food.

Hi all – hope you’re all surviving post Bake Off temptation. We’ve only recently moved house, and NONE of the TV aerials work, so I shall be grateful for one less temptation.

Having said that, my two girls made a chocolate cake last night (to take into school today, thank god) …and I found myself having to submerge every last cooking utensil into soapy water as soon as possible to stop me licking, tasting or just throwing myself into the bowl naked …

DAY 5 for me today. I need more FIBRE, so had an omelette with mushrooms, with a side of broccoli and asparagus for breakfast. Off to make broccoli soup for lunch (not sure why I’m torturing myself with my least favourite vegetable).

Dinner tonight … either a steak hache (like a burger, from M&S yesterday) with lots of veggies, or a marinaded chicken breast …

EXERCISE – decided to see how long it would take me to do 10,000 steps … an hour and forty minutes of walking. Tiring all in one go, and maybe a weeny bit too time consuming for me. Anyone got any other thoughts?

Good luck today everyone (me included)!

Hi Shalimar – thank you for the link to the Palouse Mindfulness (in today’s positive thinking thread). I’ve been looking for a meditation to help with ‘difficult feelings’ and et voila, there was one on the link. A nice, brief 15 minutes to help me deal with something upsetting. Very timely. And very much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi, there is a kitchen as I work in a Turkey factory! Obviously very busy this time of year and we also get cheap (no pun intended) Turkey in the company shop. The kitchen is fully kitted out with an oven but it is usually used for just cooking up samples for taste panels. I tend to like to use the microwave as its quick and easy, will have to give the scrambled eggs a go whilst at work, just would not want the office to smell ‘eggy’!

Pamela – eek! eating breakfast at work is an added complication ( saying that safely from my retirement ) is there a kitchen? I believe you can microwave omelettes/scrambled eggs in special dishes. Might get a queue of other staff begging for some if the aroma pervades the building 😉 If you look at Izzy’s 8 week diary she makes her own Scotch eggs without crumbs, that might be a cold option? Something hot in a flask? We don’t need to hang on to traditions of what we eat when so soup/stew for breakfast could be an option ( also I’m not diabetic so don’t have that to factor in either ) and as you trawl the website you will get the drift that many of us have to test and try what ‘works for us’ as we are so different in our metabolisms/what is wrong with our bodies/what we used to eat….. I personally wouldn’t last long with a ‘shake’ but many find them filling and enjoy them. I try to find stuff that doesn’t need loads of washing up. Enjoy your planning and keep posting your progress.

Very timely thread, as yesterday ended up feeling like a black cloud day due to dog and husband … and once the black cloud settles, even when sunshine is all around, I find it hard to shift. So, thinking back to yesterday, and the GOOD THINGS that happened will be BRILLIANT for me:

1. Lovely 13 year old daughter was reasonable about not being able to do something she really wanted to do. Reasonable, in my 13 year old, is like, possibly the best gift ever!

2. Out of dastardly dog escaping, I finally met our lovely neighbours two doors down. They seem like darlings, and gave me a box of Celebrations to welcome us to our new street. How kind.

3. Girls made a chocolate cake last night (thankfully to take into school today) … and even TIDIED up after themselves.

Actually, now I’m re-reading this, wonder if they’d spotted the dark cloud above my head 🙂

The recipe book is great, Vikkia. My personal favourite so far is the Thai Red Curry but there’s loads more still to try yet.