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  • posted by  Izzy on Izzy's 8 week diary :)
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    morning. Ok so I’m realising that I eat breakfast every day religiously because I feel deprived if I don’t however I’m not that hungry 1st thing on work days as it is so early. I took nuts and raisins to work yesterday and ate them 9-10, and then wasn’t worried that lunch ended up delayed until about 1400 because breakfast hadn’t been such a long time ago lol, so I think I will continue this trial this week and see how it goes.

    Today – nuts and raisins, soup, and stuffed courgette for dinner 🙂

  • posted by  Formeandyoumum on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hmmm self sabotage has already kicked in!

    Ate sandwiches at work yesterday during lunch meeting – despite having butternut squash and carrot soup with me!

    Also had a cereal bar – which is carb heavy

    And then had my chicken and veg for dinner- followed by a yoghurt and loads of biccies at 2am!! Great start 🙁

    I need to read then book properly and get my head round it rather than trying to make things up – so will read the book over the next 2 nights and work it properly.

    Having chicken and veg again tonight, brekkie will be scrambled egg and mushroom and can either have leftover chicken and veg for lunch or that soup still in the fridge.

    Will also go to swimming tonight – starts late night so kids will be sorted by that time = no excuses!!

    Any tips on not sabotaging myself?

  • posted by  Suoon2bthinner on It works for older women too!
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    Lynne, what amazed me was that ‘old woman’ was only 56!! She looked about 20 years older! I did notice the Ribena, the continuing lack of education and insight was staggering.

  • posted by  Skinny Latte on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Day 1 went ok:
    Breakfast -eggs
    Lunch – chicken salad with cashews
    Dinner – chicken with steamed veg, basmati rice and feta
    It was a busy day so I didn’t have much time to think about food but usually I’d grab unhealthy snacks all day so I’m feeling pleased that I didn’t fail on day 1. Also drank lots of water and paid for that by disturbing 3 times during the night! Hubby not too impressed with that. I’m hoping the book will arrive soon. Thank you Jodes82 for the link to MM in Australia, very interesting and motivating. I didn’t realise type 2 diabetes was such a time bomb worldwide, quite enlightening. So here goes day 2 …. Small steps!!

  • posted by  LindaA on My eight weeks….
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    Hi LouLou007
    How has your first couple of days gone?
    Don’t let headaches etc put you off in the first week, just drink more water and take a couple of Panadol. It won’t last long.
    I’m in Australia too, what city are you in?
    I’m at the ‘other’ end of my BSD journey. I started in April and reached my goal weight of 63kg on 2 September after losing 26kg, so I’m now on maintenance. In saying that, I’m still losing and and am now down to 61kg, so I’m currently figuring out how many calories it will take for me to maintain without adding sugar and the nasty carbs back into my diet.
    If you have any questions at all, just ask, there’s always someone to help out.
    Cheers
    Linda

  • posted by  Hajeks on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi guys. I started Monday week ago. My fasting sugar was regularly 9.9 with metformin. 9 days in and it’s gone down to 6.6. Yayyyyy. I am already thin 54kg so weight loss in general is not so important. The first few days I was hungry but now not so much. Good luck everyone.

  • posted by  lprkaun on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Renazee, it gets easier. I won’t lie, the first day was bad and the second day was worse. But for me by the middle of the third day it was getting easier (I’m currently on day 7). If you’re someone who has trouble getting to sleep without eating something, and I’m one of them, it can help to try and keep a limited number of calories available for a planned snack. If you need it, you can eat it without feeling like you’re messing up. I know the ideal is not to eat before bed, but better to plan for it than to snack on just anything you can find in the kitchen. Good luck!

  • Reading the posts here and how you all cope with the day to day distractions has been very helpful. I’m not great at planning out my menus, but trying to keep appropriate choices available, with meal replacement shakes as last minute backup. Ordered a Tai chi DVD today. Have started out practicing with you tube videos. Find it relaxing. Not sure how such slow gental movement can tire me out, but it does.
    Today 6576 steps
    706 cal
    65 carb
    Lost 6.6 lb/ 2.9 kg so far. Looking forward to the one week total.

    Stay strong all.

  • posted by  ruthdownunder on My eight weeks….
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    Lovely Lucia I want to be on your bus, but even more I want to congratulate you on the meds – or lack of them
    I am wiggling my nose and exercising my fingers!

  • First day complete, and I lived to tell about it. Had a banana and black coffee for breakfast, then ate salads for lunch and dinner with calorie-free dressing and grilled chicken. Ending the day with frozen blueberries, topped with Splenda and Cool Whip. Well within the 800 calories. Pretty excited and really was not too hungry, irritable or fatigued.

  • posted by  Renazee on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Today was my first day. I am from the USA. Did well today, but it is now evening, which is the hardest time for me, the time I usually eat despite not being hungry. So far I have kept myself from the nightly binge. Hoping it gets easier with time. Had a total of 770 calories, and 47 carbs for the day. Need to do better on the carbs, but much better than I used to do!

  • Welcome Papillon! Glad to have another starter! I’ve been rather hungry today and sort of agitated. Hopefully that will pass soon! Btw, I love your screen name! Very apt as you’re starting a journey of metamorphosis! 🙂
    YOWZER, I looked at my local supermarket and they didn’t have it, but I’ll go to a larger chain store nearby tomorrow!

  • posted by  ruthdownunder on 'Weigh in' thread
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    Angiebabe, fantastic – what a girl

    Lastchancesaloon, you are doing so well, so little to lose compared with most of us. Think of the percentage you lost in the first week not the number of pounds. Wonderful as Igor says. And do not give up the green veg, just check (dietdoctor.com) the best ones. Igor, diet doctor says net carbs after fibre. Do you know which is the best way to work that out? Ços I need lots of fibre.

    On the other tack I have lost 18 pounds and no-one except dear OH has noticed at all. And my shorts/trousers are starting to fall down! Ah well, I am pretty old, perhaps they think I am sick.

  • posted by  Frog on BBC tonight….
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    wow – that lobster in the welsh one
    I want it now!

    the diet that the presenter followed didn’t appear to have any calorie restrictions – only carbs – still lost a considerable amount or weight though. I thought it was odd that they only looked at cholesterol from bloods – maybe he didn’t have any other issues. Foing a full suite of blood tests would have made more of a point.
    I don’t really think of BSD as high fat; it is in terms of the calories that come from fat, but not in terms of the amount of fat consumed.

    Its late – panorama tomorrow

    thanks for highlighting them Avila

  • The end of week 5!
    Weight loss now stands at 5.7kg (12.5 lbs) and I’m happy to he wearing shirts for work that were bursting the buttons just a few weeks ago. I’ve noticed too that I’m much less achy and stiff, especially first thing in the morning.

    Blood glucose levels continue to hover around 7.1 to 7.9 mmol.

    I saw a programme on TV tonight here in the UK about the diabetes crisis. There were a couple of cases shown of people having foot and leg amputations. Very sobering stuff and certainly a great motivator to keep going with this plan.

  • posted by  captainlynne on It works for older women too!
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    Just watched it on iplayer.

    I was nearly in tears 😢 The medics seemed to be one step behind Prof Taylor and two steps behind Dr M and the BSD. If that’s the case, we must have a long struggle in front of us before the medics get to where we are. 😱

    They’ve accepted that bariatric surgery can reverse diabetes, but will,only operate after the patient has been on 800-1000 calories a day for a month. I wonder how the woman who had the surgery will progress. Her diabetes has been reversed, but she was shown eating soup- all 6 teaspoons of it as a meal. The risks of surgery, then having food so severely restricted! Is it not better (and kinder, not to mention less expensive) for the patients to be on the BSD?

    I do understand that the powers that be want proof that it’s effective and sustainable. But how much proof do they need? There are many case studies on here. Yes, it’s anecdotal. But Imhave been asking myself for the last few hours – is it ethical to withhold information about this approach? The patient is given choices, but they are limited and hugely expensive. The talk of the cost to the NHS, that the NHS can’t cope, that the NHS may have to choose which diseases to treat!

    Us old-timers on here said many months ago that we were saving the NHS lots of money in reduced prescriptions for diabetes and associated meds. But after watching Panorama tonight, we are saving them many thousands of pounds in reduced hospital admissions, procedures and aftercare.

    By the way, did anyone else watching notice that the lady who had her leg amputated had a bottle of Ribena at her bedside? And the man on the diet before bariatric surgery was having porridge for his tea. (But his breakfast before the diet was 4 Weetabix, topped with Shreddies and washed down with a pint of tea😱)

    If you’ve not watched it – it’s well worth seeing. Perhaps it should be shown to every newly diagnosed type 2!

    Sorry for going on, but it really got to me.

  • posted by  Big bear on over Half way through
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    Didn’t really measure myself but I have definitely lost inches around my belly and dropped several clothes sizes. It’s great that the results were so dramatic so quickly and I guess it had to end somewhere but it so disconcerting when the loss stops and there is little you can do about it. I tried increasing the excercise but there is only so much one can do on 800 calories.

    I will keep with it for the 8 weeks and hopefully past that. I don’t mind the hard work if it means I reduce the risk of diabetes and other nasties but it is hard to know that you are completely doing the right thing and portioning food correctly.

    I also have found that the calorie and carbs bit is not too bad but it is disgraceful how much sugar and fructose/sweeteners are in things, even in meal replacement shakes it is nearly impossible to get completely away from the stuff.

  • posted by  Sandie on My eight weeks….
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    Lucia , a job? What kind of job. I have a small casual job at the moment for our local council and it involves walking. Yeh. I get paid to do my exercises.

  • posted by  Mixnmatch on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    Today’s food was – no breakfast, then chicken, sugar snap peas and rocket salad for lunch and fish pie with broccoli and green beans for dinner followed by a fromage frais cocoa concoction to give me a dessert. I added 10g Linwoods flax, almonds and walnuts powder, 14g of rice pudding and 14g of Cornish clotted cream left over from my weekend off (got to use it up in small doses) 5g each of cocoa powder and cocoa nibs and pine nuts, to 90g of natural french fromage frais. Lovely with a dark chocolate cheesecake kind of vibe.

    Total calories for the day 805, net carbs 43. Water total around the 2 1/2 litre mark, mostly in herbal and green tea. Tomorrow is complicated by being one of my two badminton days so will probably have breakfast and a very late lunch. Two meals seems to be the norm so far.

    I am not expecting my weight loss to be very rapid since I have been on a diet that was almost as extreme before so no water weight quick wins, but will post my weight every day I measure it to give a complete log.

  • posted by  Wendy1947 on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Jodes82 thank you for the video link to MM on Australian TV it was most informative & my husband & I found the programme very useful. Hearing Professor Taylor explaining his research will certainly help our motivation to keep going in the next eight weeks.

  • posted by  Avila on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    I started when BMI was in the obese – I am tall too, so more places to hide it all, without looking drastically out of proportion , so was in denial about how many stones need to loose to be healthy.

    keep at it – should be heading away from carb flu etc towards all the benefits to come.

  • posted by  caldini on My Diary
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    Thanks @shalimar! Hope you’re starting to see the benefits too.

    Had a new starter in my team and hosted a couple of meetings today so lots of talking was done. You can tell I’m dehydrated – I just couldn’t find the right words for the ends of my sentences.

    Rhubarb compote and yoghurt
    Medi platter
    Fish pie and broccoli

  • posted by  Avila on BBC tonight….
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    Panorama –

    Is it just me or are the 2 going for bariatric surgery not that big? As in like a lot of us here.

    Children with Type 2 and gout is scary.

    Mind you how much have the trailblazers here saved the NHS over the next 20 years or whenever?

  • posted by  EmilyJones on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi all,

    Hope Day 3 went well for you. I don’t want to speak too soon but today I felt far more energetic than the previous two days. Maybe my body is getting used to surviving on fewer calories? I swear I even felt slightly “high” at one point!

    Today, I just did two 400cal meals. I am not doing snacks since I would rather have two or three bigger meals…well, as big as it get gets on 800 cals! Also, I read that topping up your body with regular snacks stops it going in to fat burning mode effectively.
    Meal 1 was scrambled eggs, salmon, mushrooms and tomatoes with pine nuts and feta. Meal two was tuna steak with lots of veg and cauliflower rice.

    I have had a sneaky look at the scales and seem to have dropped a few pounds already. This has really motivated me. I had a reality check this morning when I worked out that my BMI is 29.8 so almost obese category. I was shocked. As a tall person, I don’t think I look massive but I clearly have lots of visceral fat that needs to go.

    I am determined to do this!

    Onwards to Day 4…almost halfway through our first week.

  • posted by  Trelawny on 1st day of the rest of my life!
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    Well Saturday I was very pleased with myself. Ate out twice. Lunch was pulled pork with salad. Dinner was smoked mackerel and salad. I did indulge in 1/2 pint of cider. But had a lovely day and proved to myself that I can go out, enjoy myself and not eat pudding, potatoes, rice or chips!!
    Yesterday, crudites, houmous and cottage cheese, dinner was roast beef and veg. Of course my treat as usual, greek yogurt and berries.
    Today lunch – roast butternut squash, chickpeas, walnuts and salad, dinner – lentil bolognese and courgetti, gy&b.
    Had a big bust up with the plumber this morning, he has informed me , that it will be another 10 days till he has finished!!! Therefore my daughter has to put up with me for even longer. He is not a nice man and I will be glad when he is no longer in my lfe. But it does mean it will be 2 more weeks before I can weigh, so I am so hoping for a nice surprise. It might get me out of my scale led life!!

  • Sunshine-girl I am not surprised that you are bouncing around like Tigger after your visit to the cardio.

    I did wonder whether you might find that you have to start cutting down your insulin much more quickly now. I found that I had to cut mine down really quickly as I had some really dramatic lows. It was almost as though there was a tipping point where I was diabetic one day and over just a few days I suddenly wasn’t. It was both quite scary and really exciting.

    Frog – I felt really sad when I read your post. Your ‘diabetes specialist’ should have been so pleased about your results and tried to learn everything they could so they could understand how you had done it.

    I do think that this way of dealing with diabetes will really gather momentum as more and more of us defeat diabetes. In the end they will not be able to ignore us.

  • posted by  Miss Ruby on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Good Morning PurpleDragonLady & All
    Glad so see someone else in Aus. I will have someone around to chat to while our UK friends are sleeping.
    The coq au vin recipe from the book was delicious, and what a revelation cauliflower mash is, sound awful but taste ok.
    Making lentil soup for dinner.

  • posted by  shalimar on NOT losing :-< *Looking 4 female 2 female advice
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    Well we wouldn’t want hubby to say that! 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Just before BSD i discovered Tokyo House restaurant ….. i think my favorite thing will have to be left off my menu bcause of the breading …i seldom order the rice wrapped things though because they are too filling … no room for other good stuff. I’ll bet i could still eat there … they have chicken, crab, fish, pork too!

  • posted by  shalimar on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi PurpleDragonLady 🙂

    Great hints CallMeDeb!

    Seems like i re-start every day!!

    I am going to try new foods …. or old ones. My aunt used to put a small anchovy on plain sliced boiled egg …. that should spice up a plain dish.
    If my avocado has become a bit squishy i mush it up with some high carb but delicious salad dressing to make the dressing go further.
    I’m going to try some new foods!

  • posted by  Trelawny on Starting 19th September
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    Hi Tired
    i still have 3 stones to lose so am hoping to carry on eating like this. I am finding it so easy to follow, it is foods I love I just needed this final tweek as I have been working towards mediteranean eating for some time. Unfortunately all the other mediterranean diet books I have read promote lots of carbs! I love the BSD. I am taking an interest in food again. Usually I get stuck in a rut and find myself getting bored with the usual, so although I eat well 80% of the time, the other 20% is out and out greed, hence the weight problem!! I know it is early days but I feel more confident of being able to sustain this way of eating than any other I have tried. Cutting out simple carbs completely is the way for me. Preparing meals with lovely salad accompaniments, lovely and filling. I only eat between 13.30 and 20.30 but always have greek yogurt and berries before my curfew. So that’s me, hoping to ‘Carry On Slimming’!! When I was 40 I managed to slim down to 8st 4lbs. I feel I could do it again with this plan. Just watched a program on tv about health problems caused by Type 2 diabetes. Terrifying! I luckily am not diabetic but have other problems due to being overweight. A doctor stated on the programme that the only way to reverse type 2 diabetes was to have a bariatric procedure which will make you eat less!!! I know this diet is new but surely they should be promoting BSD not operations. But I am preaching to the converted! Have a good day tomorrow. xx

  • posted by  CallMeDeb on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    We should send our chimps on play dates… Far. Far. Away.

    So i’ve been thinking about what I learned the first time around on the BSD and thought I might share what I think are my best hints. YMMV.

    1. You’re going to mess up. You’re human. It will be okay as long as you don’t let it defeat you in the long run. Every minute is an opportunity for a fresh start. You are worth going on this journey – never forget that.

    2. Reward yourself with non-food items when you reach a milestone (see my profile for mine as examples).

    3. DRINK WATER. It helps with the carb cravings and it fills you up.

    4. Don’t be afraid to ask for help. The people on this forum are amazing human beings, I learn from them every day.

    Happy Journey!
    Deb

  • posted by  Helsbels on Trialling the new recipe book
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    Corkie – good to know about the cauliflower cheese recipe, i do love a good kick to my food.

    Just had the carbonara – pg 110, was very quick and easy to do, and really did taste like carbonara, i feel like i’ve been out for an italian, i upped the courgette in the recipe, as half a courgette each just doesn’t seem like enough, and used bacon as tesco werent stocking the turkey bacon from the recipe, maybe next time, but was delicious.

    My mum, who is prediabetic, has just watched a tv programme about diabetes and the cost to the nhs, think it shocked her all the lower limb amputations etc. We’ll have to send our GP a thank you card for telling us to try this diet, my mum who is v inactive through various ailments and being 81, lost 14lb in the 8 weeks and has continued eating that way and hopefully her blood sugar levels are under control although we haven’t tested it yet.

  • posted by  Purple Dragonlady on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi all. I have started the BSD and would love to join your group. I have read the book and would love the support. I am from the Gold Coast Australia. I am 56 years old and was diagnosed with diabetes two, three years ago. I have 24 kg to loose and hope this will kick start be and even turn my diabetes around. Good luck everyone 😬

  • posted by  Avila on It works for older women too!
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    not caught up with that yet, but not the only relevant BBC piece tonight (see my new thread)

    I don’t get why 800 cals is so frowned on and then commanded for others – and after surgery be as limited for life….

  • KrysiaD, I have reduced my insulin by one more unit tonight and will see what happens tomorrow morning. Obviously I will report in on this thread as usual. Today my carbs have been 23 and had 620 calories. I have just done a 50 minute zumba class and don’t feel hungry but have forced myself to eat about 3 oz of chicken to stop the dawn effect.

    If you read my post above, I have been bouncing around like Tigger after my visit to the cardio. Will probably have calmed down by tomorrow.

    Nite nite

  • posted by  Avila on BBC tonight….
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    Over on BBC Wales http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07xwstx

    will be available soon. Not BSD but low carb high fat eating, way over the calories. Mix of views, though the anti carb examples do look healthier that the example from the Dr of an obesity clinic who said it was a rubbish idea and dangerous and unsustainable….. a throw something at the telly moment.

    Then Panorama looking at Type 2 diabetes – not caught up on that yet.

    Any thoughts from other watchers?

  • posted by  Suoon2bthinner on It works for older women too!
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    Did anyone just see the Panorama programme about diabetes? The blasé attitude of some folk featured was amazing and so sad, to think they could turn things around with this or similar eating regimes. It implied the only solution for many was bariatric surgery, although they had to,follow a diet of 800-1000 cals per day for 4 weeks to shrink their livers. If they had just carried on, they might have been able to avoid such surgery.
    Thoughts anyone?

  • Hi fellow Oct 3rd Starters,
    I’ve also started BSD today. I’m 46 and was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in May this year. I’ve struggled to come to terms with this and make the necessary diet/lifestyle changes. I’m taking Metformin and Ramipril for my border line high blood pressure.

    I’m doing the 800 calorie and following the recipes in the BSD book. Today I’ve eaten yogurt with rhubarb compote for breakfast, courgette and feta salad for lunch and foil baked fish for supper. All where surprisingly good and I didn’t feel too hungry. I couldn’t give up my long black coffee and I’ve not quite managed to drink 2 litres of water. However, I have felt very irritable, hopefully this won’t last too long.

  • posted by  Tattiescone on Starting 3rd October Fast 800 diary
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    Hiya folks
    Restarting tomorrow. After a nasty teacher induced stressbinge!
    Normally try to lower carbs to 50, but thinking might try lower as I think the carbs just cling to me!
    I use my phone and my wee digital scales.
    I like bovril and tea. Eggs. All veg and meat. But not keen on avocados..however..willing to retry. I didn’t like olives years ago..but lust after them now!
    Have got my head around it all. I needed the binge..but needed to feel the pain of the post binge apocolypse to let me feel the love for the 800. 💕

  • posted by  Avila on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Only one chimp each?

    had a small portion of a pasta dish – first pasta in 2 months – and it was tasteless… the kind of thing I would eat as a regular quick cook before.

    Tonight came in feeling peckish, there were crisps in the house and I craved….. some yoghurt !!!

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on over Half way through
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    Hi there, I would say don’t give up. I had a 2 week stop proably around the same time and was ready to go on a binge when someone here said not to and I listened, a couple of days later I lost a couple of pounds and a steady loss since. I remember thinking how can I not be losing on 800 calories, didn’t seem possible. Your body seems to want to hang on to the fat, also, you may be losing internal fat or you may also be losing inches. Did you measure yourself at the start.

    Keep on keeping on.