Apologies for gate crashing the thread again.
Looking for more advice from you experienced types!
My halo slipped today …big time.
Very annoyed. Not feeling good about it at all.
Does anyone have any words of wisdom ?
Thanks.

Hi.
My halo well and truly slipped today.

Had been doing so well for 9 days.

Any tips on getting back in the straight and narrow would be appreciated. Very annoyed.

Thanks

Hi Avila
You sound just like me! I was all set for a great start in January, managed about 3 days then found some forgotten Christmas chocolates. I chocolate led to 4 days of eating crap. Got back on track for a few days and then a bad day at work and I’m giving in to the carb/sugar cravings again 🙁
I lost over 2 stones on the 5:2 and kept most of it off but I’ve still got a lot more to lose. I know this way of eating makes so much sense and I get so annoyed with myself for not sticking with it. I’ve got no problem with the 800 cals, its getting away from sugar that’s hard.
Your 10kg loss and getting off meds is a huge achievement!!! I’m sure you’ll find your motivation. Every day is a fresh start and the first day of the rest of your life 🙂

You are welcome. I’ve lost 7.5 stone (105 pounds) since I started the BSD.

Best wishes for your BSD journey. Any questions, just ask – someone will be able to help m

Thanks Lynne, that does help – yes, I do need to lose a lot of weight actually!
Your results are encouraging – hopefully mine will be similar.

Gday Snoop, thats pretty good going.
My week 20 is done and dusted

Weigh in result 125.3kg
Waist 126cm
0.4 kg loss for the week

34.6 kg loss to date

I have just started taking organic apple cider vinegar with mother, twice a day. Pretty fowl tasting, l have included Honey, lemon & Cinnamon in cup of water to make it a little more palatable. Its supposed to speed up your metabolism, though im not sure if its just a myth. The research out there also suggest to include some Cayenne pepper also, though just cant seem to get my head around that one. Will test out the theory in the coming weeks. Have a good one all.

Week 2 weigh in in the morning. Thinking there may or may not be a dreaded plateau. However I put a pair of trousers on today that two weeks ago I couldn’t get on let alone zip up. They fitted!! And didn’t cut me in half. So no matter what the morning brings I know I’m moving forward. My loss was spectacular last week so I know I can’t do it again. However another week of delicious food, not hungry and feeling positive. Good luck to those weighing tomorrow x

Hi there!
Thanks so much for your messages.
I survived day one ha ha.
I had generous servings of vegies for breakfast and lunch, then a small serving of roast pork with bbq’d greens for dinner. I believe I ‘blew out’ to approximately 825 calories but feeling okay about it for a first day. I managed to do 40 mins on the treadmill and did the same this morning. Just got to keep it up.
Got my lunch for work sorted today – a bit more exciting than the vegies yesterday. Salad of cucumber, tomato, basil (yum!) carrot, celery with tuna and a balsamic dressing.
Dinner plan is takeaway so I’ll be getting a salad with a protein of some description.
Feeling good so far. Drinking loads of water 🙂

Elainew422

I started last week like you and am on day 2 of week two- I lost 4.5 lb in my first week. Whenever I have been to Weightwatchers or slimming world in the past I have managed to lose 3lb in the first week and then usually one pound or so in the subsequent weeks. With this diet I have not been at all hungry and am so inspired by the amount of weight that does seem to come off. This site is so positive and inspirational. I am feeling very optimistic about what the next few weeks might do for me! I went wrong and ate too many pears and nuts last week so like you am making a few changes to what I eat this week. I hope that the scales will be kind to us next weigh in! Good luck for the week ahead!

Congratulations.

My fasting blood on starting the BSD in December 2015 was 10.9. After 8 weeks it was 5.3. Now it is normally under 5 (random tests only now). HbA1c December 2015 was 9.6, January ’16 it was 8.7, April ’16 it was 5.5, July ’16 it was 5.2 and a week ago it was 5.1.

We are proving to the medical professionals that it does work. And saving them money.

Please don’t worry. I was diagnosed in 2009. When I started the BSD in December 2015 my fasting blood sugar was 10.9. It reduced rapidly after strictly reducing carbs and starting to lose weight. After the first 8 weeks my fasting blood was 5.3. All my blood tests since have been in the normal range.

You don’t say if you need to lose any weight. i would suggest keeping carbs low and losing any excess weight to get your blood sugars down in the normal range without medication. I was not on diabetes medication at any point – control has just been by reducing the carbs. Now I’m slowly increasing calories but still keeping carbs very low (and now honestly don’t miss them)

Hope this helps.

Great explanation to kiddo Mixnmatch. I too have plateaued 2nd week in. It is really disheartening given I am working my but off at the gym and waking in the wee hours starving😕

Your post has made my morning a lot brighter, thank you.

PS…If you haven’t seen it yet, Michael Mosley has one of his talks about the 8 week BSD on You Tube. I saw that before getting the book and found it inspirational. Definitely worth checking out if you haven’t seen it yet. His passion for the subject is infectious.

Hello everyone, great to see so many new posts on here. Thanks for taking time to share your comments. I have finished my first week and have to say that overall it was easier than I expected, particularly following on from the Christmas and New Year excess. CNicolls and SueBlue, hunger can be an issue at first, but drink LOTS of water and I also have fruit teas for variety, and that helps take away some of the hunger…I also found my mood wasn’t great for the first few days, but that is back to normal now. Chrissie63, You are also probably experiencing the carb flu you will hear about across the forums…it seems to be very common but doesn’t seem to last more than a few days. Im fortunate not to have diabetes so can’t advise you about that, but there are some great threads on here with lots of advice which should help you. Snekker, I also try to have one meal a day, and if I am really hungry then I add a protein drink packed with spinach about 2pm…sounds foul but tastes fine! Theodora, I share your love of wine and bread, and have to say these were probably the two things I most dreaded giving up (I love cheese too, but I can eat that👏🏻). However, it really hasn’t been that bad. I got through my first full weekend and it went fine. Unfortunately I’m not active at the moment as I have ‘positional vertigo’, which is dizziness when I move so exercise is out. Having said that I still managed to lose a kilo from Friday to this morning, and I can’t imagine another healthy way of eating where you could realistically lose 6.8lbs in a week! Please keep posting to let us know how you are getting on. I do find it so motivational to hear how everyone is doing and I am sure others do too 😊

I drink 2 litres a day and find that suits me fine
I’m 5 11′ and 87kg
I include decaf coffee and peppermint tea I have
The toilet thing does calm down after 2 weeks I reckon
I haven’t used a recipe yet from the Book but will do soon as salad and roast veg getting a tad monotonous but still loving homemade soup and porridge oats with blueberries and a drop of cacao powder – delicious for those missing their chocolate and only about 200 calories if using almond unsweetened milk

Dash it – I’d assumed that she’d played in the backs!

Hi everyone, ! I posted this morning but it disappeared so apologies if it surfaces somewhere.
Week 2 Day 1 also for me. Lost 3lbs this week. That’s ok for me as I am not counting every single calorie. From past experience I know I would have lasted all of 3 days. I don’t want to be on ‘Starting again in January 2018’ thread.
Tried cauliflower rice today instead of the usual green beans to replace pasta. Had tbsp peanut butter for dessert. Yogurt and berries and six almonds for breakfast, eggs for lunch. Breakfast and lunch always the same. And fizzy water and my crochet to keep me out of the kitchen till bedtime.
Most things I miss are bread and apples. But I can’t stop at 1 and they swallow up the carb allowance so I’ve stopped buying them at the moment. I love shortbread too but that’s off the shopping list as well.
Well done to everyone. Good luck to the newbies and let’s lose tons this week.
M

Hi SunnyB, had a great birthday weekend. How was your lovely dinner?
My weight is a little up this week though, no huge surprise there so really knuckling down this week!
Have a successful week everyone and keep those numbers coming down!!

Even tho’ JulesMaigret is a member of the forum I am going to adopt Holmes’ advice of eliminating the impossible, & whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

Since my earlier post I have found-out that the David Lloyd chain are rolling-out Boditrax scanners in their gyms. As DL has always been strong on racket sports, I have deduced you are a member of your local……..! Elementary, my dear Mixnmatch

Meanwhile, 1 of my mates wants to have a game of badminton; he hasn’t played in almost 20 years, I haven’t played in much longer. Like your games(??) it will be played in a friendly & social manner & the loser will be never hear the end of it!

David

Hi, sorry to say the weeing does not het better… I’ve been weeing for years since I’ve always been a heavy waterdrinker.

Thanks SunnyB,
I lobbed some onion granules into the crackers for a nice savoury taste (better than devouring a bag of crisps), and some weird seeds called Kolonji Black Onion seeds for a bit of visual interest. I do like a savoury cracker. Only did a half quantity – it’s probably best if I don’t make a full amount, I would probably scoff them! 🙂
I will get my mojo back in time.
TTFN,
Rose

I find that I do better if I eat more (healthy) fats, i.e. less cravings, less hunger pangs, more energy. This amounts to just slightly more fats than protein on any day. I also try to get at least 13 g of fiber as that feels more satisfying and keeps me regular. One great thing about this so far is that my body is much more aware of what it needs. Whatever you start with, once you’ve adapted past the sugar/ carb cravings, you’ll have a better sense of what you need. My advice is to prioritize the fat and get enough salt! Especially days 4-6. Good luck!

Hi I also would like to join. Started today. Bought the book last fall and have been preparing mentally 🙂 A bit stresses I will be hungry and have physical symtomps that distracts me.

My no.1 breakfast is old fashion oats with unsweetned almond milk and blueberries. I need some carbs early in the morning, that’s what keeps me full.

Thanks Kate x

There’s a website called Nutrition Data Self that I use. They have detailed analysis of food, you can input your own custom food, and also track your daily calories or carbs. It’s American so fava rather than broad beans, etc. I find it easier to use than the others, but that’s probably because I have been using it for ages. I’m sure you will find keeping proper track will be worth it. Good luck

Juliet
So sorry you lost your dad like that. It’s such a shock when they go suddenly. Well done for starting again now. You will get a lot of support on here.
kate

Hi all,

Started the diet today and have just eaten my evening meal and I am still absolutely ravenous! It’s as if I hadn’t eaten at all. I have a long way to go (about 50lbs) so hoping that the book is right and the feelings of hunger ease up a bit. I am however, looking forward to weighing-in to see the fruits of my labour. Should I be weighing myself everyday?

Like you Theodora, my weakness is bread and wine and my husband is slim too so would waste away if he joined me on this diet, so it is difficult watching him and the kids eating what I would have been eating if I wasn’t on the diet. I just hope he doesn’t test my willpower in the next few days by cracking a bottle open!

Having said all that, today I have felt quite in control. I have an entire week of food planned down to the last calorie and have been actively avoiding the kitchen to reduce the likelihood of a snack-slipage.

Thanks for all the positivity on this thread, it certainly helps to know other people are in the same position as me.

Well done! Hearing success stories like yours is very encouraging.
May I ask what your fasting blood glucose level was before you started?

Hello fellow BSDers!
A little about me ….. I was asked by my GP to go for a fasting blood test a couple of weeks ago, primarily to check my kidney function because the antidepressants I have been taking for the past few years can apparently have an effect on your kidneys, and they wanted to check all was ok on that score before giving me my usual repeat prescription.
A few days later they called and said my blood sugar levels were “a little high” and I was therefore to go in for a repeat fasting blood test, and take a urine sample. I duly did so.
Whilst there the nurse showed me the computer screen which showed my results. It was 10.4. on the previous week’s test. I noticed that back in 2012, the last time it was checked, it was 7.2. The time before that it was 5. All were fasting tests done in the early morning.
I am currently waiting for the results of the repeat blood test that happened on Friday, although I have already been informed that the urine test showed no glucose present. Weird, huh?
If the blood test is again higher than it should be they are going to give me the oral test involving the glucose drink.
Over the past few days I have been doing a bit of reading online (as well as buying the BSD book!) and it seems to me that the GP ought to have carried out further tests in 2012, when the reading was 7.2? What do you guys think?
I have been feeling pretty knackered and awful since then but put it down to depression hence going on medication for that. What if I have been diabetic all along? Is it too late to reverse it?
Any thoughts gratefully received…

Hi
Just re-read my post. ( a bit late!) My darling dad died at the end of April last year, just 2 weeks after I started the BSD – not January : )

Are internet forums covered by Breach of Promise laws?

Just wondering……

Hi Everyone : )

Please can I claim late entry into Team January? I started last Monday and have lost 5lb so am really pleased.

I did start last April and lost 8lb in the first couple of weeks, but my dad died very suddenly at the end of January and I’ve only now been able to think about doing this again. Needless to say I have more to lose than I did then, but hope doing this will help me feel a bit more in control of my life! My dad had diabetes and heart disease, as I mentioned when I first signed up last year. Little did I know then how few the precious days left with him would be.

So… this is all good! Good luck everyone – I look forward to the journey with you. : )

Hi all, just an update. I’m on week 2 day 7, lost 11.6lbs so far. Still on plan, had a few higher calorie days but no off plan foods (okay, I had 2 chips). Went back to the gym today, muscles struggled a bit but I felt good for it. Generally feeling pretty good and hopeful for the next 6 weeks.

Just had to post to get rid of my earlier, I think David has refused my proposal but I was only after his cheese. Even that sounds wrong.

Congratulations, it is so great to hear that you are no longer regarded as diabetic. 😀😀😀😀😀 this WOE really does seem miraculous sometimes doesn’t it, but then as you said, it couldn’t happen without your hard work and determination, so well done!

By following the Fast 800 diet and increasing activity since being diagnosed in October 2016 I’ve lost over 2 stone and managed to reverse diabetes!! I had a fasting blood test last Monday and got the result today. My HbA.C was 39 down from 51 and glucose was 6.6. As you can imagine I’m over the moon! All my hard work and determination has paid off.
To anyone out there just starting the BSD or considering starting it, do it, it REALLY does work, I’m living proof.

Nope, from where I was standing, you looked as if you were passing a baton 🤓

Go girl go!

To everyone that has even done the tiniest bit of exercising or movement, I am proud of you.
Now are you ready for a challenge?
Let’s DOUBLE it!!!

Come on, the worst that can happen is, I have to call my hubby again to the bed and get him to unhook my earrings from the knee of my stretchy trousers as I have been doing yoga. Again.?!!!
He always says… Now what.
Then quietly untangles me, then walks away, shaking his head.

Love Lucia
Xxx

Hi Frog/happyvegan,

I’ve only ever used MFP for tracking as have found their database quite extensive in terms of things we buy in our everyday UK shop, and apart from other MFP members perhaps incorrectly logging the wrong nutritional values for some items most things are pretty spot on. I’m guessing where this might differ is generic non-branded items such as broccoli, where if you select the generic product that shows in your list, 100g are stated 6.6g of Carbs whereas if you select the Sainsbury’s Basics this is listed as 1.8g Carbs (net) as I believe the generic items have been input using the USDA nutritional values, i.e. Total Carbs as Frog suggests. So whenever I input fresh fruit/veg and any other non-processed items I tend to go with the UK supermarket equivalent to ensure I get the correct UK values….bit of a faff as it would be nice if MFP had a UK option to convert US values. But I suppose the good thing is that if you have been inadvertently using the US values, then you will have overstated whatever carb amounts you have logged than the other way around….I realise I may well have done this myself with some of my fruit/veg logging now!

I’ve never heard of FatSecret, might take a look at it to see how it compares.

Net carbs, are what most people use, I am not sure if the book was explicit. I always used net carbs, as that was the only way to make sure I got enough fibre.

Hi DavidA, our local gym has just got the scanner, and was doing a promotion where the first scan was free. Subsequent ones cost £5 I think. I don’t know of any others, and had never heard of it before that so I can’t help much I am afraid. I plan to track what I am doing every few months, as it has totally put me off relying either on BMI or my old Salter scales 😊 also just to reassure you some more I am not a prop forward either, just a keen social badminton player.

Hi everyone – good to meet you all.

I’m just starting out too – first day today, so it will be lovely to have some company along the way! Ideally I would like to lose 28lbs and, more to the point, keep it off. I am saying that straight off so I have a record of it when I feel I am weakening. In fact, I will change that and say I am GOING to lose 28lbs and keep it off!

My inspiration has been two of my closest friends (married couple) who lost respectively 3 stone (him) and 2 stone (her) in the 8 weeks and, so far they have kept it off for 3 months and have never looked of felt better. One of my difficulties, however, is that my husband is THIN. He can (and does) eat and drink what he likes and never puts on so much as an ounce and still weighs the same as when we married nearly 40 years ago (12.5 stone and 5’11” tall). I, on the other hand, am 4 stone heavier (but I was too thin then – hey, those were the days 🙂 ). We both really enjoy food (I love cooking, he loves eating) and wine. I’m really gonna miss my wine and good artisan bread which are my two real weaknesses!

So far today I have had a few nuts for breakfast and a dish of Greek yoghurt and blueberries for lunch and I have made a pot of ratatouille for my supper, and will freeze the rest in individual portions to use later – but I’ll have to cook something far more calorific for O/H, or he’ll totally fade away. On the positive side, I feel fine so far, though early days..

I have today purchased a pedometer and a set of scales which not only weigh me, but also calculate my BMI and percentage of body fat/water. Haven’t used either yet, but watch this space………

I guess I am going to have to walk more – I already walk the dogs approx. 2.5 miles (approx. 5,000 steps) a day but I’m sure they are gonna love the fact that I need to increase my steps to 10,000 per day 🙂

Having now made my first post, guess I better get off my butt and start moving!!

Mocnk – thing is, if you really stick with the Fast800, you will probably find your palette changes and all those high carb things you crave now, really won’t appeal anymore. I too love food and an alcoholic drink, entertaining friends and so on, but having been on the 800 on and off for almost a year, the cakes, sweet treats and alcohol isn’t so attractive anymore and I’m rarely tempted to consume them and even more rarely do I crave them. These days a small dram of whisky will sate an urge for alcohol and a cube of chocolate will deal with a yen for something sweet.

My advise – don’t panic about what happens later. Concentrate of sticking with the principles of the BSD for the 8wks and take it from there – you’ll be a different person by then, both in weight and taste and you won’t feel deprived.

Seaviewjoy – you will probably find that kelp noodles are available on Amazon, as are konjac noodles. They are equally low calorie and low carb, but can be a bit rubbery. I find the thin ones and the transparent ones are more palatable than the others, and they are very filling. Unfortunately most of the yummy oriental noodles tend to be very high carb, as well as highly processed and the carbs tend to convert immediately into high blood sugar levels. My worst realisation was that sushi rice sends your blood sugar spiking as quickly as sugar, so now I settle for the salmon sashimi and kaiso salad.

Hi Frog
Didn’t know that ! So what are we supposed to use on the BSD plan ? I’ve not been deducting fibre values – should I be ?

Thanks for the tip.

Congratulations Daisiesmum – what a fantastic achievement. You must have been dancing the happy dance all day.

Sunshine-girl – hopefully you will start feeling a lot better very soon. It’s horrible when you feel under the weather.

Today has been a much better day than yesterday. Husband is beginning to feel a bit better. My new website – which had been down over the weekend has gone live and looks really good.

Have had the whole afternoon off and don’t start back until 6pm. I thought I would wander through the city centre but had absolutely no intention of buying anything. But as I wandered through M&S I saw the perfect jacket in a lovely shade of red in size 10 which fitted me perfectly. So did the one in a lovely shade of teal. They were originally £45 marked down to 22.99 – who could resist that. As I walked past Rohan I thought I would just glance at the sale stuff. Saw a lovely size 10 top and small midnight blue fleece which again fitted beautifully – both at a really good sale price.

Not at all hungry today and struggling to even eat 800 calories.

Weigh day today and down another 1.7kg to 109.7kg down 35.2kg so far.

Problem is that the US measures carbs including fibre, and UK standard measurement is carbs net of fibre.
I started off using MFP, then switched to FatSecret, because they have a UK site – still not perfect, but I prefer it despite the ghastly name.

Hi ShelboBaggins
Yes very happy with week one. Really spurs you on doesn’t it ?

I try to check entries or use verified ones and if not I opt for Sainsburys and Tesco too but occasionally I just don’t have the time. Have learned from this though and will be extra careful from now on.

I plan on going through my list of regular foods on MFP and checking them which will make life easier. Also looking for a good list/chart online of the cals, carbs, fat, protein and fibre in foods. There’s plenty of good sites with the info but I want one I can copy and edit for the foods I eat. There must be one out there.

Personally, I rely largely on yogurt with various toppings, but I also use the following on occasion:

Scrambled egg and smoked salmon or gravadlax
Line a bun tin with thin ham, drop in a few tiny subs of cheese. Pour in a whisked egg and bake until set – doesn’t take too long.
Gem lettuce leafs topped with some cold meat or a thin spread of cream cheese or hummus.
Pancakes made with almond flour – you can add a spice to make them more interesting.