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  • posted by  captainlynne on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I’m diet controlled diabetic, age 65. I started this on 19th December. Since then I’ve lost 16 pounds and 7 inches from my waist. Fasting Bg was 10.9, now consistently in 5s. Bg at bedtime now in 4s or 5s.Diabetes nurse thrilled and following plan herself. I’ve even sent a copy of this book to friends in USA who want to follow this plan. Many thanks to Dr Michael and Prof Taylor for their work.

  • posted by  CTO on Hello 😄
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    It is heartening to hear from other people’s success and the drop on sugar levels

  • posted by  captainlynne on Hello 😄
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    I’m 65 with diet controlled T2 diabetes. After a visit to the diabetes nurse for an HbA1c which I knew would not be great (for me) I was in the bookshop when this book launched itself at me. I read it, and then read it again. Following a phone call from the nurse with my test result, where Metformin was mentioned, I politely told her, no thanks. Then told her about this book. She was impressed as she know someone who has been doing 5:2 and doing well. I said I would start if on 1/1/16, but then decided to begin immediately. I tested my Bg that night, then fasting the following morning 19/12/15. Fasting Bg that morning was 10.9. Now, after 4 weeks on the plan, my fasting Bg is consistently in the 5s. At bedtime my Bg is in the 4s or 5s. I have lost 16 pounds in weight and 7 inches from my waist. My blood pressure has also dropped. The diabetes nurse is now following the plan herself, although she is not diabetic herself. She is delighted with my results so far, is monitoring my blood pressure and is repeating the HbA1c in March to see how much it has improved. I feel so much better and am delighted I started the plan when I did.

  • posted by  CTO on Hello!
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    Bought the book off Amazon, couldn’t put it down – read it in a day! It was like a revalaton now to put it into action…

  • posted by  Jet on Hello!
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    Hi all, I just started this diet 6 days ago. Diagnosed diabetic 3 months ago and yes, the Desmond course is quite depressing! So far, have not been hungry at all even when it’s been 7 hours between lunch and dinner! The recipes I’ve tried so far are really tasty. I’ve even managed to avoid all the leftover chocolates and cakes brought into the office by my colleagues. That is a miracle in itself! I have a long way to go but so far, this is working! Thanks to Michael for writing the book.

  • posted by  newmill on Another Question please…
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    Needs to be a leafy green veg, steamed or boiled.

    Its just there to provide a bit of dietary fibre to keep things on the move, as it were!

    Nice to have something hot as well. I put a dollop of English mustard on the sprouts and cover it all with freshly ground black pepper to liven up what is otherwise a rather bland meal.

  • posted by  Yvonne on Overweight cyclist.
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    Aged 66 I am neither diabetic nor pre diabetic but have struggled with yo yo dieting most of my life. I’m now 3 stone overweight and want to lose as I’m only 4:11 in height.

    Keen cyclists, my Type 1 diabetic husband and I hit our target of cycling 2015 miles last year and have set 3000 miles this year. Despite all the cycling I’m not losing weight so this way of eating looks like it may help. I don’t overindulge, very aware of portion size but do eat lot of carbs.

    Any advice from fellow cyclists on how to continue with the 40 mile day rides with few carbs, would be welcome.

  • posted by  newmill on Another Question please…
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    Oh yeah, went with the shakes because it is convenient and takes the thinking out of it. I have better things to do with my brain than faff about obsessing about calories.

    Open sachet, dump in pint glass add 250ml of skimmed milk and stir.

    Behold- 206cals of quite tasty glop.

    Repeat four hours later.

  • posted by  newmill on Another Question please…
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    Any meal replacement shakes providing around 200cals are fine. Don’t get hung up over the brands, its the cals that matter

    I have 250mgs of sprouts for evening meal.

    I started this diet just after Christmas and I’ve been using Tesco Ultraslim – £4 for a pack of 10 sachets or £10 for three packs at the moment.

    3 Jan 2016 – 12 stone 4 lbs

    16 Jan 2016- 11 stone 10 lbs

    Just do it.

  • posted by  Oscar66 on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Hello everyone!

    I’ve just started this too and have already lost a few pounds in the first week. I know that this will be mostly water, but it’s very encouraging! I’m going for a homemade vegetable soup for lunch ost days, which is very filling and is always well under 200 cals. I have recently bought a fitbit charge HR too, and although I thought it a bit of a gimmick, the app is really useful at keeping track of food (can link in with myfitnesspal if you want) and exercise.

    I am not diabetic, or even pre-diabetic, but I’m very keen on keeping it that way!

    Thanks Michael and good luck everyone – we can do it!!

  • posted by  Scottie_72 on Another Question please…
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    If I decided to go down the Meal Replacement Shake route – would SlimFast shakes be appropriate? or is there any other choices? and can you make it with milk or water?…. maybe I should have changed the title to this topic to multiple questions?!?!? x

  • posted by  Scottie_72 on Swapping Ingredients?
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    Hello All…

    I’m busy planning out my first weeks meals – In the book there was a recipe for Skinny Kedgeree.

    Does anybody know if I can swap the Smoked Mackerel fillets for haddock? and would it still have the same calories?

    Many Thanks in Advance x

  • posted by  Donnadoobie on Hello!
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    I also followed NHS advice and went for ‘good’ carbs and like you could not understand why my blood sugar was high 2 hours after eating porridge. Found the Diabetes uk forum in August and have never looked back. Have been low carbing since August. Blood test in October showed It was almost non diabetic, a couple of points still to go. Hoping this will do the trick.

  • posted by  Bluemum2 on Welcome to The Blood Sugar Diet Forums!
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    Hi. I’m a 46year old Mum of 3 school age children, who works long hours in another school, and has struggled with my weight all my life, and at 5’4″ and 16 stone, need to get things under control.

    I have been following the principals of this diet, since 4th January, and having been very inspired by Michael, with his well researched healthy life style recommendations, since the original “fast Diet” documentary. I have tried this, with some success, but as soon as I ease off, my weight just spirals again.

    I totally support and understand the need to reduce / remove sugar from our lives, and limit refined carbohydrates.

    I think for me, it will be a 5:2 version, as it will be easier to manage with my busy life – That being 5 x 800 cal days, and 2 sugar free days with limited carbs, at the weekends – As a mum of school age children, how can I not encourage the children to learn / experiment with cooking, and of course, I have to try what they have made!!!! I will encourage them to make savoury recipes, but what child doesn’t want to make muffins!

    Wish me luck.
    To date, I have lost 5lbs!

  • posted by  Yvonne on CHO values
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    Love the recipes with clear calorific values. Would be enhanced with CHO values along side. Thanks

  • posted by  Steve and Ei on Hello!
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    This diet has changed our lives so far, and only 10 days in. I have been descending from pre-diabetic, to diabetic, and then to “you need medication” a few months ago, which I declined, and started (expensive)self testing. I had been sticking to NHS diet advise with a lot reservations, as the safest option. I queried why I was told to eat carbs (1/3rd of the plate) when that was what I can’t metabolise correctly. Nurse told me she had a patient who had the blood sugar of a non-diabetic, “but he doesn’t eat carbs!” “Surely he is right then.” “Oh, no you must eat carbs.” The depressing DESMOND course. “You can’t get better. Only worse.”
    The diet has been a revelation. Gone the constant hunger. Eating, the NHS recommended, porridge for breakfast found me starving hungry, but with high blood sugar, 2 hours later. Now hunger has gone away. I realise I was a carb addict, on a constant blood sugar roller coaster. Morning fasting BG now 3.9-4.4.

  • posted by  Louise on Hello!
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    Thanks Nessie. I do eat too many carbs I think. I’ve been trying to lose weight for about 20 years now following various low fat plans, that have always replaced fat with carbs. After reading the book, I think this has been my problem.

    Arran Granny – yes looking forward to seeing how people are doing when they’ve finished the 8 weeks.

    CTO you must have great will power to have followed the lipotrim diet, so I’m sure 800 cal of real food will be no problem for you! I have tried a vlcd diet before but I didn’t last long due to hating the ‘meals’ and it was also 600 cal. Hoping the extra 200 calories might make it more bearable!

  • posted by  Donnadoobie on Hello
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    Hi. I found this diet by following a 5:2 forum on Facebook.
    Started 5:2 last January and then in March I had an Hba1c blood test come back at 49 which was tipping into type 2, reduced carbs and second test 3 weeks later showed 46. I have since gone on to lose 33lbs by low carbing along with 5:2 and my last test in October was 43, so improving but just not there yet.
    I am really hoping this will help blood sugar levels as I really want to get them back into normal,levels and start seeing normal fasting levels in the morning, mostly they are around 5.6 -6.2.
    I have been doing this diet since Monday but have only lost 0.5lb but feel this is probably because Imhave been losing weight for a year already.
    Good luck to everyone following this 8 week program and hope it brings you what you are working for.

  • posted by  CTO on Hello!
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    Hi, came by this diet on researching my rapid weight loss using Lipotrim shakes in which my figures dropped dramatically. Looking for alternative using real food and will be switching over. I feel like a new person and am glad to be here at the launch of the website

  • posted by  Arran Granny on Hello!
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    Hi, the 5:2 diet is recommended after the 8weeks. There is more advice on the forum. I am sure that in a few weeks we will find people on a maintenance plan and that will help.

  • posted by  Arran Granny on Welcome to The Blood Sugar Diet Forums!
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    We all have to experiment with what suits our own situation. Oatmeal and porridge are recognised as healthy food but oatmeal spikes my blood sugar level – so not for me just now. Just keep trying, Malkay and everyone, you will find what suits you to keep your blood sugar as stable as possible and then get into the “normal” range. I have decided to consider that I have a food intolerance ie carbohydrates. If it was gluten or nuts or anything else we would avoid those foods and would be advised to do so quite rightly. So I am avoiding carbs. In 2 weeks my fasting blood sugar has come down from 9.4 to 6.3. We will all make different progress but progress we will make. If we have a night out then we can go and enjoy it ( within reason and without guilt ) then just work harder to compensate. We are here to make the best we can of what we have got – and we will !

  • posted by  Cazzowary on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I’m on Day 13 so nearly two weeks in and have so far lost 3.8 kgs (but there is a lot of me to lose). The first couple of days were hard but luckily have my mum doing it with me (she has prediabetic blood sugar) so we keep each other on track (she’s lost 3 kg). Now we’ve got a rhythm going it’s really easy and I’m not having dinner anymore- plus it makes the calorie limit easier to manage. There has been a little bit of cheating- 90% dark chocolate pieces every day and a bit of milk in cups of tea but usually manage to come in at 800 calories. And truly those cheats are amazing- you have no idea what a sweet tooth I have but it appears to have vanished or is at least satisfied with the dark chocolate! Roll on the next 6 weeks and thank you Michael for not making me worried about entering “starvation mode” if I eat this little (which actually isn’t that little with all the veggies). For the first time in a very long time I’m starting to think I can lose the weight I need to lose.

  • posted by  Michael (BSD Admin) on 5:2 and the Blood Sugar Diet
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    People with raised blood sugars might find doing 500 (or 600 for men) more challenging, so we recommended 800 calories (as used in prof Roy Taylor’s research). And remember that for the other 5 days on 5:2 Blood Sugar Diet you will be continuing with the Mediterranean-style Low Carb Diet without counting calories, just keeping an eye on portions. This will increase the impact of the 5:2 Blood Sugar Diet in terms of improving blood sugars, as it provides the metabolic and weight loss benefits of intermittent fasting combined with those of the Mediterrranean-style Low Carb approach to eating.

  • posted by  Eureka on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Hi allthewrongjunk. Knowledge is power. Find out the portion & calorie count of the foods you like. Weigh your food as on packets to really see what they mean by a portion! It’s surprising how we can blow that. Do it for a few days so you can visualise what your portions should be. Use a good app or buy & mark a calories in food book. We must take responsibility for what we eat & not leave it all to the recipe writers. Start your own recipe book & ask family & friends for their recipes that you can adapt. Stir fry is great. A little oil goes a long way & I find I don’t need so much meat. Look at cooking as a pleasure & culinary calorie challenge. Make your meals as tasty, colourful treats for you

  • posted by  Natalie on 5:2 and the Blood Sugar Diet
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    I thought on your other website (I don’t have the 5:2 book, I’m doing the 8 week fast plan) it said that you do 500 calories (600 for men) on your fast days? Is this a change or did I get that wrong? I will probably switch to 5:2 when I’ve finished my 8 weeks.

  • posted by  Michael (BSD Admin) on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Welcome to early adopters Jackiemac, Loobyloo, AranGranny, Eureka, Allthewrongjunk (great name!), Katie Rose and Nessie! Good to hear your stories. I will be following with interest. And as Eureka says ‘This is a change for life & if you fall off the wagon just get back on down the road’. All the best to you all, Michael

  • posted by  Natalie on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I have nearly finished week 3, having started a couple of days after Christmas, and I’ve lost 2.2 kilograms. I haven’t been perfect at all. The first couple of weeks I still had chocolate (leftover from Christmas) nearly every day, I’ve stopped that but I still have sugar in my tea (2/3 tsp), and I generally eat around 950 calories a day, I rarely manage to get it down to 800 probably because I eat larger portions of meat than I should on this plan. And I haven’t really started exercising yet. But on the up side, I’m eating tasty meals with a lot more vegetables than I used to, I’m not generally hungry and not usually eating anything between meals, and I’m drinking a lot of water. I need to tighten up my calories a bit and get walking (I write as I look outside at the downpour).

  • posted by  Nessie on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I am on day 8 today, and have lost 3cm off my waist and 2.8kg, so very happy so far. The first few days were tough, finding a routine. I combine it with 16:8, and even found I did 2 fasting days accidently, so happy about how things have changed. Sure, I am craving sweet things, and have already thought about Easter, lol, but its just 8 weeks, and things will get better.

    For meal planning, I found this website: https://www.eatthismuch.com/
    I normally have used MyFitnessPal, but this one has been lots easier to use, and it breaks things down.

    Regards
    Nessie

  • posted by  Katie Rose on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I am 5 days in, and so far quite enjoying it. Am looking forward to some interesting recipes. Thank you for this site and for the book, which I have read cover to cover at least 5 times!

  • posted by  Eureka on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Ditch the carbs! Write down what you like & what new foods you are willing to try. This is your new shopping list. Herbs & spices are fun to try. Surf the recipes & adapt to you. Try out your food on family & friends they may want lots more. Alcohol is empty calories, I Stopped drinking for 6 months & pretended tonic had gin in it! Don’t beat yourself up if you want to drink just be mindful ok. Just make & eat the filling for sandwiches not the bread. Ask restaurants to replace chips & potatoes with other veg or salad. They do. This is a change for life & if you fall off the wagon just get back on down the road.

  • posted by  Nessie on Hello!
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    Hi Lousie
    I am only at the end of week 1, so can’t speak from experience about finishing the 8 week plan, but unless you go back to the way you were eating, it would be hard to add the weight back on.
    All the best

  • posted by  allthewrongjunk on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Hi, I’ve read the book and would really like to start this. If I’m going to plan my own meals, is there a ratio of fat/protein/carbs I should be aiming for? I’m not keen to do loads of cooking but I don’t really fancy the meal replacement shake route either so was going to rely on things like covent garden soup and ready-made bags of stir-fry veg where you can easily see the nutrition information.

    Eureka, I’m really similar, mum has type 2 diabetes; I lost a lot of weight on 5:2 and piled it all back on during family illness. I think part of the problem was that while I was eating well (i.e. protein and plenty of veg) on the fast days I never properly addressed improving my diet on the non-fast days. (And the less said about the fast day when I ate my entire allowance in Krispy Kremes the better) (2 1/4 original glazed in case you’re wondering).

    Good luck everyone and looking forward to hearing how you all get on!

  • posted by  malkay on Welcome to The Blood Sugar Diet Forums!
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    Thank you Arran Granny. I do always carry snacks, and eat mostly low carb, but do often eat oatcakes as a snack, as they help me to feel better quickly if I am getting low. I guess the answer is to not get the lows in the first place. I know I am often tempted to eat too much in an attempt to avoid the lows. I will try the cheese without the carbs, and try to eat smaller portions. Thanks.

  • posted by  Loobylou on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I don’t have type 2 diabetes but I do have a fatty liver, high cholesterol, one of my blood test was once prediabetic but after retesting it was normal. I do have ovarian cancer and have been living with cancer for the last 5 yrs. i don’t think diet can cure cancer but I just want to be the healthiest version of me that I can be. I don’t want any more illnesses

  • posted by  Eureka on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    Hi everyone. Am so grateful to Michael ,Prof Roy Taylor Newcastle Uni & all associated with this venture. Hav been waiting a long time for this info & support. I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic 2013. My father & mother the same but I missed all the text book signs! And I was a nurse!! I lost 28lb in 5 months after reading 5 : 2 diet & modifying it for me. BUT the stress of family illness blew the lot & now I hav to start again. I will succeed & it will be tough but I must do this for ME. I want to support others & see if I too can reverse or greatly improve my diabetes. It’s mind over matter. I mind & it does matter to me & my family. Let it matter to you all & be mindful of the good we can all do to & for ourselves. Best wishes to you all & pass on the good this info & support will do

  • posted by  Arran Granny on Welcome to The Blood Sugar Diet Forums!
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    Malkay, you can have snacks with you all the time. The thing with this diet is to have low carbs and get energy from slower burning fats so blood sugar does not spike. So your snacks could be a combination of eg nuts and cheese as well as high carb if your blood sugar is low. My son takes Baby Belle cheese as it is well wrapped and he knows the nutritional content of each portion. Good luck, hopefully you will find a way.

  • posted by  Loobylou on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I have had a fitbit for a few years now. I prefer to use my fitness pal although I am not so keen since it was taken over by underarmour. I have more recently been using fat secret and lifesum.

  • posted by  Arran Granny on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    There are some apps that can help. I like Nutracheck which is easy to use. However it shows calories not carbs but was a good starter. I have just got a Fitbit activity tracker that also has an app for meals but need to get to grips with it yet

  • posted by  malkay on Welcome to The Blood Sugar Diet Forums!
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    I suffer from reactive hypoglycaemia (low blood sugar), and need to eat very regularly, approx. every 3 hours. I eat very healthily, but my weight around the middle will not shift. I want to try the diet, but worry about coping with the reduced calorie approach. My doctor has been no help. I would love some advice about overcoming this condition, which I believe to be related to, but different from, type 2 diabetes.

  • posted by  Loobylou on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    I started a cople of days ago love the receipies do struggle as love carbs and have cheated a bit. I do exercise quite a bit so on balance I have achieved 800 calories most days. That was something I wanted to ask I am training for a half marathon on days I train I tend to eat back the calories I burn

  • posted by  JackieMac on The challenge of the Fast 800
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    5 days in I am finding it fairly easy. You do need to be organised with food planning for breakfast and lunch particularly. A useful tool for the book, or indeed this website would be shopping lists. It took me a while to figure out the total of everything I needed. However it was worth it as the meals I have had were tsty and filling. Thank you so very much for writing this book. I think I have finally found a way to lose weight and keep it off!

  • posted by  Louise on Hello!
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    Hi – I’m starting this diet on Sunday or Monday. Looking forward to seeing an improvement in my weight, and the sluggish feeling I have currently. I have read the book and changed my thoughts on vlcd’s, which I have always thought of as very bad for you.

    I am a little worried about putting weight back on after the 8 weeks so will be interested to hear of other people’s experience with this!