Thanks to Rozydozy for the link in another thread.

I wouldn’t normally waste my breath on no-marks like ‘happyslappy’ but the timing is just so perfect I couldn’t resist. I know that person doesn’t want to have an actual debate with us but its not just Dr Mosley as this quote taken from an article yesterday shows;
The study, published today in Diabetes Care, is the latest research from world-renowned Professor Roy Taylor, Professor of Medicine and Metabolism at Newcastle University, who also works within Newcastle Hospitals.

The research is part of a growing body of evidence showing that people with Type 2 diabetes who successfully lose weight can reverse their condition because fat is removed from their pancreas, returning insulin production to normal.

In yer face happyslappy!

Hi Madmare

I too am on day 3. I checked my weight this morning – 5lb off !!!! I checked 3 times. No headaches thankfully and not hungry either. Not sleeping very well though. Try the cream of mushroom soup its lovely and really filling. Also the egg muffins. Im not looking forward to the weekend either – if I have to I’ll stay in bed any housework can wait until next week!!

Good luck to you and Bill1954

Hi hashimoto,Sharon, captainlynne bill1954 and others
I am not a medical professional not someone with an agenda
The reality is that even Prof Taylor cannot deny the facts that there is “no cure “for diabetes
I’m just an ordinary 72 year old who contracted diabetes in 2001 ,primarily as a result of bad lifestyle. Over indulgence in many parts of my life
I suffered severe depression for 2/3 years as I didn’t know how to deal with as my wife was type 1
I “starved” to keep my blood sugars in check as is being proposed in this diet
My GP (a friend as well as a doctor) , gave me, yes gave me the GL diet book by Nigel Denby and I haven’t looked back and I have not tested either blood or urine
My concern is that Dr Moseley on the Steve Wright show some 9 months ago said that having been warned by his doctor that he was diabetic, so he created the 5and 2 and he’d cured himself of diabetes. No he’s controlling it by way of diet or eating healthily as I do using the GL as a guide (not a bible)
Now the diet to beat all diets is the “blood sugar diet” . All I’m saying is that after some 5 books on the subject over as many years, they can’t all be best
So my question to Dr Moseley is, if I have followed the plan to eat healthily but not starving nor dyning myself of some of the joys of life (wine pasta rice dining out etc) then why not promote normal healthy eating. Its like the “sugar thing” , I have not taken sugar, salt in my food other than the addition in restaurants by the chefs, and I have drunk black sugarless coffee for 50 years. Yet I still contracted diabetes and will have it until I die
No blood sugar diet will reverse that TRUTH
So all I say to people just read the GL ,not the GI book and see for yourselves
I wis you all every success in what you are trying to achieve and I leave you with the quote that helped along the way , Henry James ” you never know what you can’t do until you try”

Just to add, I buy grapefruit on every shopping trip and try to keep it around 2 weeks in the fruit bowl before I eat it. They are never too tart then.

Thanks all.

Good to hear. Gladly not on any medication and not diabetic (though I was on the road to it) and hoping to swerve it with this diet.

loving this forum.

x

I’m glad your thicker blouse tucks in too Lucia, it gives you a spur on doesn’t it! I used to find that bending my leg up to cut my toenails was a bit tricky, some of that was because the tummy was in the way – also the boobs. The boobs were easily sorted, well £6k later! I hope you had fun on your washing machine!

I’m feeling a bit spaced out this morning. I had my follow up minor surgery at 7.15 last night. I guess a benefit for my surgeon is that she was able to use my flatter tum to put her instruments on LOL. I had smoked haddock with a poached egg for breakfast but am not especially hungry today and had to make myself have it.

Cant use my vibration plate for a bit nor swim for 2 weeks til the new wounds heal. so, i’ll have to stick to walking for a while.

Aha
I may not have been listening correctly at the time as I was being prescribed statins at that time so that would explain it.
The statins got consigned to the bin ages ago and I have managed the cholesterol ok without them
Methinks a couple of luscious grapefruit will be in the shopping basket this week
Thanks for explaining it.

Hi Orchid
It’s going through the checking phase.
As soon as she has it Judith will post the link, we did it by email just to get it to where it is now.

Hi, grapefruit can interfere adversely with the how some drugs work like statins and some high blood pressure drugs. Can’t see anything about diabetes drugs on this link, but I am not that familiar with the drug names. The Newcastle team may have been very cautious in the advise. Link to NHS advise – http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2474.aspx?CategoryID=73&SubCategoryID=103

Hello Maria. Grapefruit has a GI of 25 and a GL of 3 so it is fine for the diet. It is also only 35 kcal per half slice. You do need to wary of grapefruit if you are taking some medications, most commonly statins which are used to control cholesterol. Good luck!

Hi guys, is the petition live yet – I can’t find it online?

Good start,
this weekend in particular may be difficuilt as it’s Easter but I look forward to normal weekends when I can have a couple of really nice meals like a Sunday roast minus the potatoes and yorkies and a fried breakfast.
The headaches will go, just keep on hydrating and take pain killers if needed. Be sure to get some full fat dairy in there too.
Once you get into the swing of things, you will feel great and sleep better, you won’t have carb cravings and you won’t feel hungry.
These are exciting times for T2D’s, come and join the experience.

I don’t know about grapefruit
I was told by the Newcastle diabetes centre a few years ago to avoid the stuff like the plague as it was just not good for T2D’s but no reasons were ever given, so if anyone has any facts about it, I’d be interested in them
I used to love grapefruit at one time.

I’ve just dropped a post into a UK business forum that I am a member of mentioning the diet and petition
I don’t know how many T2D’s use it but I know there are a few, there are also some very influential people who get on there from time to time
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/diabetes-boot-camps.356414/

The response should be interesting.

Thanks for that. Although it would be great to have a BSD diary and chart (just a hint for the website developers!) the book also suggest the My Fitness Pal app, but it simply won’t allow you to record an 800 calorie intake for a day as it’s ‘too low’ and ‘unhealthy’. Has anyone found a suitable app?

Hi
I’m a newbie only on day 2 of this lifestyle change.
I work 11 1/2 HR shifts as a nurse and will need to take packed lunches now not involving sandwiches. Don’t always have access to a microwave, any ideas to keep me on track?

Day three and I have lost 2.5 pounds – good but I have been here before and put it all back on at the week end
This time its going to be different!
I had a bit of a headache yesterday but drank lots of water. I was really hungry last night whilst making dinner but for once managed to snack on cherry tomatoes and lettuce
Today I woke up not hungry at all and in a great mood
Lets see how long it lasts
I have wardrobes of lovely clothes I just cannot fit into … I have been told I have high blood pressure and I dont want to take drugs
Its time for me to take control of my life

I’m just starting out (day 3) and wondered if I can have Grapefruit?

Also any suggestion for dinners everyone can have – hubby and 3 children ranging from 5 – 12. Trying to get a little list together so I don’t have to make two dinners every night ;o)

Thanks

Hi all,

Well said everyone and I reported it too.

Posted by maddy733 on delurkng😀
Hi Guys, Love this title. I am guilty of this but as a newbie was apprehensive of joining in. Well I am eight days in and so excited, I am pre diabetic and really over weight by about four stone, it sounds terrible when seeing it written down😡 Good news 9lbs lost in week one. It has really helped reading all your posts, thanks guys. Did any of you get scolded for daring to eat so few calories. Well I have been able to say now well I am not hungry, but did feel very light headed but that has gone now. Good l luck to us all.

Hi, after reading a very kind reply from Bill1954 in another thread I have been thinking about trying to reduce the amount of sugar my children eat. I am happy for them to have sweets and cakes and even soft drinks as an occasional treat, but I am struggling with some of the every day products, in particular yoghurt, biscuits, bread and breakfast cereal. If anyone knows of lower sugar versions available in the UK I would be most grateful to hear. I have searched google and my local shops, but many ‘low sugar’ kids products are actually full of agave syrup or honey or something else. Many of those on the internet are only available in the US. Or if you know of a good way of making the adult versions of these products a little more palatable that would be good to know too. I could wean them off it gradually.

I don’t want any artificial sweeteners – apart from not knowing the health risks they pose my aim is to get them used to less sweet food.

Yoghurt: the kids products seem very high in sugar, but at least they are small so the total sugar is sometimes lower than an adult pot. My children won’t eat natural yoghurt. I have tried adding fruit, but haven’t had much success.

Any reasonable low sugar biscuit would be much appreciated. I give them mini gingerbread men now which are aimed at much younger children, but at least they are small so total sugar is low, but it isn’t getting them away from the habit.

They don’t like porridge even with added honey. Any ideas how to make it more fun? Or thoughts on other breakfast cereal that is least bad?

If brown bread has too much sugar and not enough fibre, has anyone come across a reasonable bread that might be palatable to modern children? Wholegrain rye bread was a step too far!

Low sugar ice creams should be easy to find but I can’t – nearly all the emphasis is on low fat. Any ideas?

Any advice much appreciated – it doesn’t have to be perfect merely better than we have now.

Hi Proodles from another newbie 🙂

I’m in week 2 and can’t believe how good I’m feeling.

Such sad news captainlynne, but I’m glad you hear you’re feeling better today. Sounds like you coped really well food-wise – good for you!

Thank you SunnyB, we are both very happy. We are encouraging my husband’s brother who lives in NZ to ‘get on board BSD’ too, he has a couple of stone to lose as well. We have told him about this forum, as he lives on his own, we think he’d benefit from the online support and help everyone gives each other, which I find so heartwarming.

We have a thread running on here called ‘weigh in’. I don’t think there is anywhere else on the site just yet.

Hi Bill, and here’s me thinking my name was a bit unusual!! Yes please, I would send you mine if I knew how!!! 🙂 I can’t find Lynne either! 🙂

Can I be your Facebook friend as well Bill?

Well done to both of you – isn’t it wonderful that such change can be achieved so rapidly using the BSD? You must be over the moon FiFiP! Wobbles are okay and to be expected, it’s what happens the rest of the time that really matters – as you have proved. Keep in there and see what else you can achieve.

Hi Hargsi
Pleased to see it’s starting to work for you.
As mentioned, check the total carb contents of your 2 shakes and the other food that you would normally eat in a day.
You need the carb content to be around or below 50g to get the best out of the diet although I worry that you may not be eating enough fat. Are you keeping an eye on that too ?

I am new to the BSD and the book suggests I can keep a record on the website of my progress… Can anyone tell me where I can find it?! Thank you!

Hi Judith
I did look on FB for you but there are a few with your name on there so I didn’t want to contact the wrong one.
If you like I can mail you my FB id

Very well said and well done Sunnyb 🙂

Hey Hargsi
Big congrats on the long awaited result – bet you’re really chuffed. Let us know how you get on over Easter, it will be interesting to see if al diet less reliant on shakes works for you.
Have a good Easter break – and not too many choccies!

Lost 2lbs in a week, now weigh less than I have for 12 years, am over the moon. My husband has had to tighten his belt by 4 notches so we might well have to go shopping for some new jeans! We both have had a couple of wobbles when going out, but are determined to stick with it.

Welcome to the BSD clan Proodles
The forum is an excellent support and has helped to carry me through when I’ve been struggling. It sounds like you are focussed on the task ahead, but I’m sure like many of us, you will find this new way of eating much easier than you might think. We will all be keen to hear your news and results, so be sure to keep posting and like I said, if you need support, this is the place to come.

Good luck on achieving you goals, we’re all rooting for you.

Bill I totally agree with what you have said about the motive behind that post is being financially driven.

You have got to think there are some people out there who are concerned they will not make money if this way of living spreads like wildfire. The fact that they can be worried enough to plant negative posts suggests they believe it will. The old silver lining ?

We can’t let trolls like happyslappy (name says it all really) hijack the forum, so I too reported the post. Hopefully many others will too, because we need to send out the message loud and clear, that this behaviour is not wanted, not warranted and not acceptable. We are a support group and for the positive, so there is no place here for the negativity of trolls.

A question about posting: how does the linky thing (icon at top right of a post) work?

Oops, should have read ahead TWills63 😉

SkyWalker, I sooooo wish that would happen to me. Sadly, I know it doesn’t. I once went for over a year without anything sweet and I thought I’d be ok with ‘just a bite’ of good chocolate. Slippery slope, 50lb regained.

Aaaaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

I think for me, I have to regard chocolate as an alcoholic regards alcohol – never safe.

Good to hear you are feeling stronger today captainlynne. Sorry yesterday was so tough for you, but you seem have come through the dark day and stepped back into the light. I know you will be offering support to your friend, so make sure to take care of yourself and use the BSD clan to sound off at when you need to.

Aly it’s lovely to hear you are back on track and seeing the results of your efforts 🙂

Wow lynne I reported it too, and thankyou again for your support. I was surprised when I saw the post and so pleased to see the rapid responses from Bill, Cherrieanne and yourself.

I would like to be facebook friends, it might be easier for you to find me as my surname is more unusual in the northeast 🙂

TWills63, I think you and I are the same with regards to chocolate!

Regarding your birthday meal, can you look at the menu ahead of time and work out a plan?

FoFi, I’ll keep your ideas in mind, thank you. But at the moment I’m not going to risk anything.

Thanks Bill. I have to say I didn’t feel alone because of the BSD family.

First thing yesterday I heard my friend’s mother has just been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. It hit me badly because I’d known someone with that disease only last year 😢

But I went out for a long wander to get my head back together and spent time with the BSD family.

Feelings not as raw today 😃 After all, not a lot I can do. Need to keep healthy to be strong for my friend.

Wow, cherrieanne you have the bit between your teeth too! It does sound more difficult in Australia, almost sounds like you need a pioneer like yourself in each state! Rock on girl 🙂

I decided to report happyslappy’s post as well.

Great news Bill

I keep telling the medics I don’t want to go on Metformin, that I can’t take statins and now that I want off the blood pressure meds.

All this talk of jeans! Can’t remember last time I wore jeans. Mmmm …. perhaps I should set myself a goal – to wear a pair of jeans 😃 In a small size, of course 😃