Hi there 🙂 I also watched Angela Ripon’s piece on Inulin and Visceral fat. I thought it has to be a good thing and immediately got to work researching. I didn’t fancy sprinkling it on foods, so have gone the natural root. I have added Chicory salad to almost every meal and have purchase Chicory root. If you read about the health benefits I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. I am not a diabetic however so do not have to monitor Carbs etc. I am 49, have healthy cholesterol levels, liver kidney function good too, but cannot seem to get my blood pressure down. So am trying like billy-oh to do it with food before Doc intervenes 🙁

What a beautiful and inspirational thread this is!

It’s so easy to get stuck in the cycle of feeling tired, demotivated and flabby – then reaching for the same foods that caused it in the first place.

Just completed week 1 and have dropped from 224 pounds to 209.

For the first time in a long while I really want to go for a run – happy days!

My first 7 days has gone very well .
I am here because I am obese and am heading for diabetes if I don’t gain control over my large waist !
Happily I have lost 7 pounds this week and reduced my waist by 1 and half inches .
A way to go , but I feel very encouraged.
I am very interested in your posts and progress .
Keep em coming 😄

I know desperate, I. Want one for visiting Australia and keeping in touch! 🙂

Brightspark, that’s very good news!:)

Hi Amp511, the first thing I would do in your situation is invest in an insulated food box (can’t think of the proper name ) I would freeze a couple of bottles of water (as potable ice packs) and take some made up salads, some top quality ham, some boiled eggs, prepared avocados(skin off, stone out, sprinkled with vinegar or lemon), some full fat yoghurt and berries. You could also take some little packets of nuts. Get a wide necked flask and take some home made soup for your first day.

Hope that helps 🙂

Ooooh, clotted cream!!! Think I’ll buy some next week 🙂

I’m so pleased you are getting your ‘whooshes’ ! 🙂

Yeah come on Aly we need to hear how you are doing
Just a quick update (posted elsewhere but this is my sort of diary thread)
No weight loss this week but I stopped the Metformin altogether and I am still keeping the sugar readings down below 7 fasting and normal the rest of the day.
Luxurious fatty snack last night, 6 strawberries with CLOTTED CREAM!!!!
Morning reading 6.6 🙂

Hi everyone,

I bought Michael Mosley’s 8 Week BSD on a whim when I strayed into the books section (my weakness!) at Selfridges two weeks ago.

Today is Day 2 and I’m feeling good about it, though I do need some advice from all you seasoned BSDers out there…

I’m a consultant who spends Monday-Thursday working on the client’s site several hundred miles away and Friday-Sunday in London (home). Those client site days are spent living out of a hotel with no access to a kitchen, fridge or microwave and the client offices don’t have these either.

Do you have any recipes or suggestions for easy-to-make travel-friendly meals that don’t require a kitchen/fridge/microwave? I can buy things from the local supermarket on a Monday night but can’t afford the time to be going there everyday and I’m lacking inspiration for what foods I can throw together.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks everyone 🙂

Good one Brightspark…

My experience has been similar except there is not so much excitement with the doctor… However I am on lower medication as a result… The excellent blood sugar results can’t be ignored…

Will definitely try the Australian Easy Diet Diary, sounds good Cherrianne. And how good to hear that others put on a bit in Week 2. I was so buoyed up by the first week, and was expecting to get under 70 klgs this week ( am 70.5 today) now I won’t despair too much or even worse eat some of the Bread and Butter Pudding made with Panettone that I am serving to my husband and dinner guests to-night. Cutting up the Panettone was testing, the smell was sooooo good.

Hashimoto like someone said about the dirt….just do it. Same goes for the Smart Phone you will love it. Once you have one you won’t look back.

ALY where are you? I’m missing you!!! 🙂

British Citizens we have 224 signatures! If you haven’t already please can you join us? 🙂

Alan I had blood tests taken just 4 weeks in which put me at pre dabetic levels and normal cholesterol.
My GP was really pleased and copied down the name of the book and the website address
I will be having another test in September by which time I’m hoping to be classified as non diabetic.

That is an amazing result you must be so proud of yourself
I just wander what the doctors say about these results
Alan

By the end of week 3/4 it is a doddle! 🙂

Lucia my bloated stomach will appreciate the lying in bed with MM.thanks :). 😉

Hi lucia, eating a full days BSD food in one sitting last night has left me so stuffed my stomach hurts! Food? Arrrrhhhhh – she runs a mile…

It’s strange cherrieanne considering how much i like this dirt!! 🙂

Desperate I am trying to pluck up the courage to get a smart phone so you are streets ahead of this techo dunce! 🙂

Eeek, I’ve only just got the leptin joke too. 🙂

Neohdiver, I sincerely hope the bungling has come to an end and you get the service you deserve xx

Hi LucyJane, congrats on your woosh, that’s fabulous, 3kg in 10 days I’d amazing, well done! Don’t know if I could drink more than 3 litres, I’m never off the loo as it is. Speaking of which, after yesterday’s carb fest (I put it all into myfitnesspal – 1700 cals and 160g carbs !!!!!) I took my dog for a long walk and nearly didn’t make it home in time for a number two 🙂 Funny the effect carbs have on you after a month of abstinence.

Today I feel as if I am in Groundhog Day.
Never saw the movie, but I have picked up the saying.
So today I am going to break out of the mound.
Had salad for breakfast, will have yoghurt and apple for lunch.

Anyone in the mood for changing it up a little?

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Cherrieanne I like what you did with the coconut flatbreads, I think I will try that. Thanks 🙂

I saw my GP this week and she was amazed at how well I’ve done in just a couple of weeks. Her husband had been to a talk Mosley gave and she was very open to info on the BSD. She looked at the book and took the details and says she’s going to discuss recommending it to her patients. She’s also getting copies for medical staff at the surgery so they can have a good look and read.
A success I think!

Hinhashimoto,

On the settee dozing with the tv.

Well last night around 11:30 I was with Michael Mosley in bed.
I watched an hour long you tube talk he did in Australia about women staying healthy and he talks a lot about 5:2 and blood sugar diets.
If you can, it is worth the watch.

You just go into you tube, type his name in. The photo or frozen frame is of Michael wearing a nice maroon shirt (looking handsome) with a big black screen behind him showing the name of the talk.
He mentions our website too.
Again, I suggest it is worth a look.
Sometimes, the written word doesn’t connect with me. A video will.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

I hate this predictive text.
Drives me potty as I spell the words correctly, then I move on to the next line . When I am not looking, just for naughtiness it swops one of my key words.
Brings a whole new meaning to this crazy bird.

Love Lucia
Xxx

This morning I have done my own version of yoga, but gently
The limp worm or cobra
The naughty puppy or downward dog
The kitten but with attitude. The cat
The toe nail sharpener or tree (I really have to use my toes to dig in to prevent a lot of wobble)
The deck chair. The chair
The broken floorboard. The plank.

Kept on falling out of the poses but I have got two yoga mats and three bath towels under me as a cushion.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Lucia you are starting to see more results for your determination! 🙂

The last thing I let go of was yukky low fat yoghurt – that was so hard!

We will live long and prosper!

Xxx

Just to throw a little ray of sunshine into the mix, I finally stopped the Metformin over the weekend.
Latest readings, pre dinner last night, 4.6, 2 hours after eating, 7.1, and fasting this morning 6.6
That is from a previous long term T2D sufferer and if I can get those sort of results (following in the magnificent cherriannes footsteps) then everone can get the sugar levels down.
It may take a bit longer for some more than others but sugar and weight loss goals are achievable if you are prepared to stick to the plan. I am on week 11 by the way.

Oh and not only the waist on my trousers, but now the thigh area is not longer giving me the Vulcan death grip.

Live long and prosper.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Morning gang,

Late last night I decided to get rid of my ‘just in case’ food.
I have got ride of the breakfast cereals.
I was only keeping them just in case I got hungry.
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Don’t miss them at all.

What was the last thing you let go of?

Love Lucia xxxx

Go for dark chocolate (Example below is Tesco 85% Dark) The squares a quite big:-

Typical Values 100g contains Two squares (20g) contain
Energy 2421kJ (585kcal) 484kJ (117kcal)
Fat 47.0g 9.4g
Saturates 29.0g 5.8g
Carbohydrate 22.0g 4.4g
Sugars 15.0g 3.0g
Fibre 14.7g 2.9g
Protein 11.2g 2.2g
Salt 0.1g <0.01g

What fantastic support! I had a good talk to myself and decided 2 weeks wasn’t long enough to be admitting defeat plus 2 people at work told me I was impatient and inconsistent!
Fantastic news Lucyjane! You must be thrilled! I’m sure my whoosh is just around the corner! If you can do it then I blooming well can 🙂
Again thanks to all who replied to Lucyjanes thread it has helped me so much too
Meredex x

Thanks Kathy!
So per 100g the carob has more fat, fewer carbs and less sugar, but probably not enough so to be a good substitute.
Sigh…

Re checking my calories thanks to advice on here,just had 1 rasher bacon one egg tomatoes mushroom few beans weighed in under 200 calories .
Weird it looked like. Sunday breakfast to me 🤔

Kia Ora NZers, another JAfa here! Day 2 feeling hopeful! Have tried many diets, am feeling strong that I can do this! Doing the 800 cals.

Hi Desperate,
Have you tried the ‘Australian Easy Diet Diary’? It’s for iPhones and iPads and really easy to use and it’s a free app. If you download it I can talk you through how to use it, but it’s fairly simple and you’ll probably work it out yourself.
I doubt your sesame seeds are to blame for the .5 gain. It’s probably the most common post for people in week two. So many have a little gain of one or two pounds( 1/2 – 1kg) or don’t lose weight at all. No idea why this happens but it soon resolves for most people.

Thanks for your feedback. It is good to know it is not uncommon to get stuck at this stage and I will try the Psyllium husk instead of bran. I am avoiding the scales until day 14 so I hope to see some change but I intend to stick with it either way.

Fortunately, as I have already posted on another thread, our GP heard the interview on Radio NZ between Simon Morton and Michael Mosley. Thus when I went to see him last week, he was very much in favor of the process. Later that day, I emailed our doctor the link to the Australian Insight TV documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDEw561NFto

Showing that video to your GP should wipe their objections

Jim

Fifty fifty As my husband gas Cadbury’s the info is
100g
Fat 30.5g
Saturated 18.5g
Carbs 56.5g
Sugars 56g

Per 13.8g 3 chunks
Fat 4.2g
Saturated 2.6g
Carbs 7.8g
Sugars 7.7g

Hope you’re hat helps

Hi all. Does anyone know how carob stacks up against chocolate in terms of carbs, sugar and fat content?

Yesterday (week 3 day 2 of the Fast 800) in desperation I succumbed to a chocolate craving with a carob bar instead – the nutritional info on the pack (per 100g) was as follows:
Fat, total 43.6g
-saturated 27.2g
Carbohydrates 41.6g
-sugars 33.7g

Per 15g serving this was shown as:
Fat, total 6.5g
-saturated 4.1g
Carbohydrates 6.2g
-sugars 5.1g

I tried google to obtain comparable info for a cadbury’s milk chocolate bar, but without success. I don’t want to tempt myself by getting too close to an actual cadbury’s chocolate bar to find out!

Day 2 was really hard for me too, I was soooo hungry I was fantasising about food and then at about day 5 it went away. I am eating absolute sparrow portions now compared to my hearty meals pre diet and feeling incredibly satisfied, hell last night I even left some food on my plate!!! If I can do it you can too, the breastfeeding can’t help with the hunger but I promise it will get better.

What a team, thanks for all the ideas about where to source gram flour, now I know its chick pea or besan flour I know where I can get it . I love curry so some flat bread will be a welcome change. AND will definitely check out the recipes on the site….must admit I like simple best. Hashimoto’s egg, bacon and tomato is my style. I loved the scrambles egg with smoked salmon. I made it into an omelette and it was delicate and delicious and so easy.

Had a set back this morning on the scales, had put on .5 of a kilo, think I may have added too many sesame seeds to my salmon steak but even then was under 800 cals for the day. Am sure it will be off soon.

Hashimoto I think its dirt for ever now….

Cherrianne…I think I must be an app dud, tried the app that was recommended in MM’s book and found trying to work out calorie intake really slow and tedious. Only OK if you were eating brand name foods. I am just googling what cals in each food I am eating and keeping a diary. Slow but works of me.

Hashimoto I missed your message about having the H metabolic condition. How fantastic that it has helped you, I will let my friend know. Hard work persuading a depressed 20 year old to do anything but she is a wonderful Mum and I know she will support him if he decides to give it a try.

How good to know that there is support post the 8 week mark; that bit worries me more than the 8 weeks. I know I can stick on it for 8 weeks but rest of my life is more challenging, especially when a yummy dessert is served up.

Over two weeks down, the hunger has largely disappeared though my stomach rumbles very loudly-often during meetings! I lost less weight week two as I expected- still over 6kg down in two weeks! I recently purchased a pair of jeans and they are too big already- not just need a belt too big, they are fall down to the ankles, give to the op shop too big! Feeling great 🙂

Hi Mary, Please see my post regarding this below. I had no weight loss after an initial 2 kilos in the first 3 days, and then finally this morning on day 10 a kilo overnight -in between nothing! So frustrating to see the scale stuck. I think part of my problem is I want a miracle with results overnight. I know I am also going to struggle to do the whole eight weeks because of social events:-( Keep going. I did drink extra water yesterday – that was the only thing I did differently. Gluck.

It’s fascinating reading other people’s experiences and I’m certainly not knocking what they are doing. I personally am eating more protein than the book suggests and probably lower carb than the book recipes because I don’t like pulses and beans or sweet potato – basically anything that is allowed. I am going to try cooking lentils again soon, my first try was a mushy disaster (unless they are supposed to be like that!). My meals are nearly all 50-100g meat plus a pile of vegetables (fat is also involved). I do have home-made yoghurt and fruit some mornings. I think everyone has to tweak for their personal taste, but if you tweak a lot you are not really doing the BSD as written.

I agree Eureka. It is working well for the majority. We aren’t part of a strictly controlled research group so we do need answers that we can live with in the long term, in the real world as you say.
For those of us trying to manage blood sugars without meds it might mean setting a carb limit. It is all individual and as has been said before, we are the pioneers. We are a very large, diverse group with all sorts of other medical issues aside from diabetes. Most of us are going to continue well past the initial 8 weeks so are truly breaking new ground here.