I am doing my Fast Days at the moment by having a light protein breakfast then my main evening meal at around 7pm. How do others do others do it? Wondering if I should skip breakfast and just have a light lunch or could I alternate? Thanks

Think I might have spoken too soon in my earlier post about not having any lightheadedness or hunger………… since 4pm today, nonstop thoughts of biscuits have been doing the conga around my brain. Have also, for the first time, experienced hunger pangs and a rumbling tummy together with some light-headedness.

I’ve drunk a lot of water but it hasn’t really helped. It’s only just after 9.30pm but the only thing I can think of doing to avoid the carb cravings is head to bed.

Anyone else experienced a tough day recently?

Thanks everyone. So great advice and tips there, I shall endeavour to follow them.

Nil desperandum

Hi Everyone.

My friend has early onset/young Alzheimer’s Disease and his family have discovered Cytoplan and are very excited. Does anyone here know of the product/products and/or have any idea as the the reliability or efficacy. The website seems extra-ordinary (9 out of 10 improve/get better!!) and I am very sceptical about Cytoplan. Am I wrong?

“https://www.cytoplan.co.uk/blog/about-cytoplan/”
““Of the first ten patients tested, nine showed subjective or objective improvement. These included people with memory loss associated with Alzheimer’s disease and/or varying degrees of cognitive impairment. All six patients who had given up or severely limited work, returned to work or were able to work without difficulty.
And now over 100 patients have been treated, with unprecedented results. A clinical trial is planned in the USA and UK.””

Grateful for any authoritative support.

Frog that’s great. Ill-fitting, but great.

All my jackets do up comfortably, and the tops which were snug fitting and I didn’t risk tumbledrying are now loose.

Are you off clothes shopping? It is the Summer Sale after all …….

No worries – worth a shot – I hate throwing stuff away.

A couple of times when I’ve been out of London recently I’ve come across the most amazing haberdashery and craft stores – I can’t think of a single one in London.

Congratulations on getting the loft finished so speedily – happy sewing (is your first job taking in all your clothes?)

Went to a seminar/networky thing this afternoon – in the pre-event coffees, the biscuits were labelled with a calorie count (101 for a not very large shortbread, the chocolate cookies were higher)

sadly the calorie counts didn’t extend to the canapes, but I stuck with teaspoons of roast guinea fowl – very pleasant, don’t think I’d eaten that before, on a pea puree, and teaspoons of salmon mousse, which I think was fairly innocuous. Fairly disciplined with wine, so everything went well until I found myself next to a bowl of extremely good roasted nuts (and a boring delegate) moved to another table!

I found some trousers to wear that I bought about six years ago for my graduation – they were far too tight then, and I got fatter after that, so it was the first time in ages I’d worn them. The waist felt as if it fitted when I tried them on, but once I was out, I realised that they were sitting extremely low, and the waist is easily 3 inches too big, and the hips, on trousers designed to be fitted, were flapping around with a spare fistful of fabric on each side. My jacket, that I purchased earlier this year, when I first wore it in March, sort of fitted, but was sort of edge to edge and not quite meeting to do up, now overlaps by about five inches.

A few baby plum tomatoes? 6 is 16 calories and 3 carbs. Eat them v e r y slowly. Mmmmm

I’m craving sweet today. I’m on week 2. I fell off this a bit at the weekend life got in the way but I’m back on track now. Any tips other than gum for sweet cravings

Yay! 🙂

Whoops I take it back everyone, I have lost 1.5 inches off my waist in the last few days. Hooray! :):)

wow Timmy, your own eggs, that’s brilliant
I occasionally rent a cottage on a farm, and always come home laden with as many eggs as I can feasibly get through while they’re still fresh.

Apologies Mishkalala – we’ve hijacked your “non egg eaters” thread with aren’t eggs brilliant!

Hi Alan — I recommend the book by Gary Taubes, “Why We Get Fat” for an excellent discussion of carbs/diet — it is my best reference. Good luck going forward!

Hi everyone! I started yesterday. OH said he would join me,but his idea of the diet is just giving up the red wine! I haven’t been hungry, and have been enjoying my meals. My main problem is feeling guilty for having full fat yoghurt, and full fat dressings on my salad.For tea I had fish with cauliflower puree,(with cheese and butter in it) It was delicious, and checking on MFP, I have had 33g of carbs, and under 900 cals. I need to up my water and fibre though, or I will seize up .

Yes I definitely will be posting some of my recipes as soon as I get the measurements right.

Lynne,

Looking forward to the inaugural 1st August weigh-in.

For my own info, I always weigh myself every day – I find that not only does it keep me on my toes, but also helps me understand how variable my weight can be over a couple of weeks, often for no apparent reason. I don’t get too elated by a particularly good reading or depressed by a bad one. As long as I sticksthe rules it comes out ok in the end.

Like you, I’ve been trying to decide what my target really is.

The figure which has haunted me for 35 years is 11st (or 154 lbs). I never considered my weight until I was about 30 – then noticed a certain rounding out (This was in the wake of a divorce – probably others may have a similar experience?). I bought some scales and found that I was 12 stones. I decided to lose a stone, and when I found myself down to 11 stones I thought that looked about right. About the same time I took up fitness running, which I found enabled me to eat quite a lot without too much weight gain. However, I rarely got back to 11 stones and as the running came and went so the yo-yo dieting took hold. Over the years, I’ve had several major weight losses, but always in the end piled on even more afterwards. The heaviest I ever got was 16 stones. This year I kicked off at 205 lbs.

The only 2 occasions I’ve ever got back down to 11 stones were a) my (2nd) wedding in 1988, and b) after 5 days in an isolation ward with severe dysentry (not a recommended way to lose weight, but damned effective)

So, I guess that I won’t be happy until I’ve hit that magic 154 lbs figure. However, I’ve lost about 2″ in height since my 30’s, so I guess that I really ought to be aiming for 150 lbs now.

I think that in the long run, one cannot have a single figure as a target – but rather a range. Once I’ve hit the 150 figure therefore, my aim will be just to keep under 160 for keeps.

John

Day 1 was quite easy, but at the end of the day I had only eaten 645 calories. Needless to say I woke up with one heck of a headache this morning. Lesson learned….be sure to eat the prescribed 800 calories each day! I had a sugar free 100 calorie muscle milk and the headache finally settled down.

Struggling a bit today. I had some chocolate mint cookies in the kitchen….one of my favs…calling my name so I put them down the garburator! Problem solved.

Tomorrow will be a bit of a tough one. We have to go to an Eid celebration where there will be lots of food and lots of pushing of food. Don’t really want to discuss the fact that I’ve started another diet so will have to look for acceptable foods to eat. My 11 year old son and I made a ton of homemade chocolates yesterday to take to the party and I will have to resist eating any of them. I am really determined to get through tomorrow!

Good luck to everyone else who is struggling or dealing with functions…we can get through this. It will only get easier as each day passes and we see results. I will not give in. I will be living in a bathing suit when we head for Mexico August 20th….if that isn’t incentive I don’t know what is.

Hi Gayn55

I was also a vegetarian prior to starting this diet, and I thought about it for weeks before starting, and decided I needed to make it as easy as possible, so I have reverted back to organic fish and meat for the time being, until I get to target. This decision was very hard as being a vegetarian is for religious reasons, as well as chemical and humane reasons. But I need a healthy body to keep working and needs must. I admire anyone who tackles this diet as a vegetarian. So keep up the good work.
Regards
Jan

Hi Shopgirl0423, it sounds like you have been to hell and back with the lymphedema. Firstly welcome to the forum, and our growing gang of newbies !! I am doing really well, everything is slotting into place, I feel the best I have been for years, and I’ve only been on this plan for 5 days !. As this plan is based on low carb/healthy fats with good and clean/wholesome foods, I’m sure this is just what your body needs after your ordeal. Just a quick post as I’m at work, but well done for starting the plan, make sure you post regularly to let us know how you are getting on ?.

Day 7 weigh day tomorrow, feeling quite hungry today, not properly hungry just the oh I will just have that sort of hunger, so munching on pickled gherkins while I cook dinner.
Breakfast fate and fresh raspberries
Lunch prawn salad
Dinner will be chicken cooked on a bed of lentils with fennel, red onion, and steamed mange tout all baked in stock. Never had fennel before. Not sure I’m going to like it, vegetables shouldn’t taste of aniseed.

Getting through loads of pelegrano mineral water, which my boxing son informs me is one of only 2 mineral waters that actually replace the minerals you are flushing out of your kidneys. Tastes good, so good enough for me, with a slice of lemon.

Also got used to only having a tablespoon of milk in my tea, cannot tolerate full fat milk in drinks. Looking forward in a very nervous way to what the sales reveal to me tomorrow. Here’s hoping. Everything crossed, even the slimmers halo.

Hi Lucia,

Confession;-

‘Fraid I’m not going to be able to rise to your challenge of upping the exercise just yet – the chassis is proving not to be up to it! Since trying to do more I’ve been getting niggling strains, tight calves etc. so I’m just going to push on with the regular regime and try again later.

For the record, my current programme is as follows:

Mon, Tue, Thur, Fri:
11 mins calesthenics and running on the spot + 25 mins brisk walking

Wed – as above but without the PJs (for a bit of recovery time)

Sat – 25 miles bike ride – reasonably hilly (usually about 1,300’ of climbing in all) – about 2 1/2 hours
Sun – 15 miles bike ride – mostly on the level – purely for fun 🙂 about one hour

I think that averages out at about 55 mins a day.

You wanted my age in minutes (seems a bit rum that one has to do more the older one gets!) which is currently 67 so just another 12 mins to fit in as and when.

Will that do for now Ma’am.

John

I have just finished week 1 and my bg has gone from 11 to a more normal 6.5. Today I had a leisurely swim for half an hour and checked before I got in pool, 6.1, but had dropped to 3.3 when I got out. To me this is a scary number and I felt shaky and sweating. Question: What should I eat when this happens – it was asking a nutritionist this question that ruined my numbers as she told me to eat BREAD or SWEET JUICE. I don’t expect anyone on this site to tell me that.

What I did was have a slice of ham, still felt shaky so started to munch on the raw veg I was preparing for dinner (curry). Was that okay and when is ‘low’ seriously too low.

Many thanks

Day 6
Strawberries and fate to start the day.

Tuna salad for lunch

Dinner chicken salad.

Tomorrow do something different, but I must admit I love salad. Quite happy with meals. Not hungry no side effects.

Day 5
Been dreaming that I haven’t lost any weight, so I did a sneaky little pop on the scales, Wowser lost 8 lbs
Can’t quite believe it where’s it gone, so very inspired now, just worried the fat pixies may pop it all back hehe.
Menu the same as yesterday. Need to get the book out and do some new things.
Feeling very well, sleeping well, no side effects.

Day 4
Have to drive to Norfolk and back 7 hour drive, so last night I packed up my yog and blueberries for breakfast.
Lunch prawns and salad all counted
Dinner at the motorway services outside Burger King, don’t like them anyway, and I had a virtuous chicken salad, while all those people coming in and out stuffed burgers etc, down their throats. My slimmers halo is gggglowing.

Got home at 7 pm I got up at 5.30 , tidied up a bit, took the dog for a brief walk, packed up seven parcels for posting and hit bed at 22.30 feeling delighted at my willpower. Wowser mr willpower where have you come from never met him before hehe like I say ggggglowing.

Regarding socialising.

Restaurants, google them and decide before you get there, what you are having.

Have fizzy water instead of pints of beer.

Don’t graze on the bread sticks, peanuts, crisps, prawn crackers etc.

If you slip up, enjoy it, acknowledge its a one off, then get back on the diet.

go for two side portions of veggies and ask they serve it one the one plate as your main.

Love Lucia
Xxxx

Day 3
Feeling very alert and well, which for me is miraculous.
Breakfast blue berries and face yog which is beginning to taste like clotted cream
Lunch tuna salad, I am amazed how many calls and especially carbs are in lettuce tomatoe and cue umber, so counting everything.
Dinner baked smoked haddock with green lentils, peppers and tomatoes

Also had 1 oz of raisins eat them then calculated my total and damn it my carbs are now 77.82 cals 780 being the pedantic thing that I am that really irked me.it won’t happen again, I want to loose weight and get healthy more that I want raisins. I’m trying to really mean it.

But again cannot say I have been hungry.

Hi held,
First, you have done the hardest step, and that is starting.
We can all read about it, talk about it, plan, dream, but to actually be well on the way. My hat is off to you?
😀🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩

I keep motivated by two things, I do different exercises , try different things.
At the moment I try and do yoga, alone in my bedroom as it doesn’t look pretty.
Imagine tying an elephants four legs and trunk together…. Well that’s how I end up.
Sometimes I have to shout for hubby to untangle me before the blood flow stops 😖😖😖😖😖😖
I wear primark pyjamas as I feel comfy in them.
I have tried hoopscotch,
Puddle bashing,
Roller skating
Skipping
Tap dancing
As well as a LOAD of walking.

The second thing I do to keep motivated is this. What we are doing right now.
I blogg, I read other blogs.
I started this blog just as a ‘dear diary’ to myself, as I didn’t think anyone would be interested in a big birds rambling. I just wrote to the ether.
And low and behold, many people read it and lots reply to me.

I have a unique mental attitude, some call it insanity. I look at things differently.
I don’t mind, because while you are smiling at my blogs you are burning calories,

It’s good that you are planning your meals.
If you get hungry, don’t know what to eat, then you can graze on everything in the fridge. And regret it.

My weight?
I have gone from elephant to a young Dolly Parton.

I have gained the best two things…… Health and happiness, and you can’t buy either in any stores.

Blog me back ,

Love Lucia
Xxxx

I wish I was having curry. Even the pink curry is more appealing to me than a salad 🙁

Hello GillyD

Well done on achieving your goal before your holiday, I’m the same height as you and like you I am just squeezing into a size 12, more so on top – still working on the tummy but not so wobbly as when I started! We are going on holiday in 10 days, I’m currently 10 stone 12 and my goal is to get to the top of my healthy weight range before then or as close to it as possible! Have a great holiday.

Hi Frog well done for not eating all the potatoes and for losing weight! Sadly my machine is a toyota not a singer and looking online your pedal won’t fit but thank you for thinking of it. My Mum still has an old singer machine 🙂 It was old 20 years ago and she bought a new one to make my wedding dress for me, only to realise she preferred her old singer and gave me her new toyota one lol.

Switzerland I am certainly in bed before the kids sometimes especially my daughter who is 11 now and up later!

The area of the loft I will be using is all floored now, so I’ll have a look at the panel I might be able to use to create a workbench later 🙂

dinner plans were confused as my list I made assumed hubby would be shopping and that hasn’t worked out so the family are having ribs and I’m having some left over chilli in a baked pepper. perhaps with a little cheeeeeeese.

Alan, if you want to explore this subject further, there is a lot of information on the web.

One site which I found helpful in establishing the best proportions of carbs, fat and protein to support the BSD is below.

I believe Michael Mosley set out the BSD to be as simple as possible, so that its users could do the diet without too many investigations/calculations themselves.

However, many people here, as well as my OH and I, have established that planning the 800 calories around 50g or less carbs per day works very well at both losing weight and visceral fat, and helping with issues such as high blood sugar.

Here’s the site:
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

If you work out your potential proportions from the site, using the carb levels and calories per day (800 on the BSD)you wish to set, it will calculate your recommended protein and fat levels so that you can enter them into an app such as the one recommended by Christine or MyFitnessPal, which is the one I use – there are a number – and set your targets.

Then entering your food into the app keeps you on track as it shows the nutritional content of what you are eating, and you can monitor your progress, plan your meals, establish how many calories/carbs there are in everything.

I hope that helps.

I’m doing BSD 800, I’ve lost 22.5 lb’s in 11 weeks, only lost 4 over the past 3 weeks. Our bodies are all different, I do take one or two days per week now and allow myself more calories but keeping the carbs low.

I’m mostly at peace with it, I’ve accepted that in any one week my body has lost what it can and that’s ok. In time I will get where I want to be.

http://www.theherbdiaries.com/theherbdiaries/2015/1/19/raw-chocolate-cheesecake

The recipe can be found here, it’s not cheap to make and be warned those with sugar still in their lives may not appreciate it. It is also really rich but oh my days the most spectacular tasting thing ever, it tastes like the naughtiest thing in the world to eat, in fact typing this is making me salivate. I sliced it up into small portions and put it in the freezer so we can have it as a special treat.

Enjoy

And welcome Twist, also – are you doing the BSD or just reviewing our live forum (it does get very LIVE at times!)

oldtyke, once you can start to ignore all the stuff you’ve heard over the years about low fat being good (ignoring the fact that low fat means added sugar), and start enjoying full fat – I promise your life will be transformed!
🙂

Hi Alan B,
On the bsd diet most people do the 800 calories, while keeping all carbs to 50g or under, if you download the fat secret app, it tells you the carb value of all the foods, which makes keeping a check on your carb intake easier.
I’m not sure where you are coming from in relation to your question, however as a general rule if you keep to the 800 calories and 50 g carbs you should lose weight and keep healthy. I hope this helps?
Christine

Hey Pollygarter – well done on hitting the mid point and dropping another pound. Don’t beat yourself up for the small transgression, you still lost so all good and you need a little variation sometimes. It is surprising how things you used to eat happily, suddenly seem much to sweet once you have been on the BSD for a while.
Well done on the exercise regime too – better than I am doing, it is something I really need to sort.

Pots of Hurrah all round!

I’m off home to make healthy chicken curry.. and maybe a chickpea wrap to go with it 😉

Hi oldtyke – welcome! The full fat thing does take some getting used to, but you will find that it really works to help you feel full sooner and for longer. Be sure to keep an eye on the carbs and drink plenty too. Let us know how you get on and if you need any support, someone is bound to respond. Good luck!

B – yogurt, raspberries, seeds and a drizzle of balsamic
L – Parma ham, cheese and two Finn thins
D – Salmon, salad and Caesar dressing

hi timmy, – i am doing bsd – but not counting calories – although i seldom if ever go over 1200 and mostly around 1000

i used to do the fast diet and that worked well re. weight loss but cause big reflux/throat issues which are still not completely gone – hence changing to healthier eating EVERY day

i certainly need to build muscle mass as i would think i have very very little of that!! thank you for your advice

hi frog and cherry – yes, i also have a very similar amount to lose to both of you
i have lost just over 2 stone since January – that is 3 months on the fd and then 8 weeks on bsd – with a few glitches along the way
i agree we should celebrate ALL weight lost and i find it easy to do for others but so much harder myself

well done frog for having ‘occasional’ treats, as i think if i tried that they would rapidly escalate into old habits

most of my fat has been around for some years
but i put on 1 1/2 stone in hospital in just 3 months, 3 years ago – and it took me the first 5 months of this year to shift it
it feels good though – to be rid of it, like i can perhaps start to rebuild bits of myself perhaps

off for chicken and veg now

best wishes xx

Hi LindaA,
I have had a bit of a hiatus with my weight loss, illness, being away and plateaus have meant that I have been losing ounces not pounds, however I am happy with my weight loss so far so I can’t complain.
I have had a virus, and not understanding why I wasn’t recovering, being told by doctor that it was linked to Virus! Then one of the forum posters, cherrianne, I think it was solved my problem, it’s too long and boring to go Into!
I am now back on track feeling SO much better, it’s amazing that I struggled for about a month, not posting, feeling awful, finally I did post and got my answers almost immediately, so one word of advice, if you have a problem, get on the forum, it works!
We are out for a meal tonight, at an Italian restaurant! I will be having steak and salad, it’s a joint 70th birthday for my hubby and two friends, they all went to uni together, and we have stayed friends ever since.
I have decided to keep on losing slowly until I’m happy with my weight, then possibly do the 5-2, I haven’t decide finally yet though.
I admire your determination, I wish I was so strong, keep on keeping on!
Christine

Same Tokyo, it’s so much fun this 🙂 definitely helping to keep me going.

Day 2 I’m going to be very controlled with my carbs as I really want this to work.
Breakfast. Raspberries and forage yog
Lunch. Prawns and salad
Dinner braised chicken on a bed of lentils, from the 800 book ooh so tasty. My delight was realising that I had doubled up on carbs for the lentils.
Cal 766. Carbs 41.7

Feeling unnervingly in control and already feeling the effects of the science of what I am eating feel very alert able to go for a 3000 step walk with the dog. Can I do this I hope so, this is my last chance to turn around my health. Not hungry at all, in fact haven’t since I started. Great

Love the cherry idea Bill, I’ll be trying that out for sure.

Hi shopgirl0423, sounds like you are all prepared and ready to go. Good luck for tomorrow, I’m sure you’ll do great. Keep us all posted on your progress and shout if you need any support, as lots of people here will be willing to help out.

Annadongela – well done on progress to date and resisting the temptation of CAKE. There are bound to be days when you are a bit hungry, a spoon or two of full fat yogurt or a cube a cheese is great for staving off pangs and makes you feel full for longer. You can do this, so stay focused and plough on.

Keep plugging away there JK, sounds like you have this thing cracked.

janey i physically laughed out loud at your summing up of today !!!
timmy get that suit out ready for your ” cinderella” moment
and lucky poor paltrow ( not really i am with you on that one )!!
thank you ladies( janey and lucky) and gentleman i was thinking as i cut up my mushrooms and tomatoes for tea how in all previous diets i have never had so much fun on a diet normally at this point in the day i would be ready to my grandma ( if she wasnt dead !!) for food of any description !!
you truly are a god send x

Fantastic! Well done Gilly! Congratulations and have a fabulous holiday!

🙂 🙂

Welcome greenjanet – you are certainly focused! Many of us feel the same about the wasted years, but no point dwelling, it’s onwards and upwards. It is scary when you start on this new regime, with full fat everything but hardly any carbs. It’s so counterintuitive, given all the propaganda feed to us up ’til now, but there are many people on here that can prove it works and works well.
Anyway, good luck with it, post your results to let us all know how you are doing and be sure to shout out if you need help or support, someone from the forum will be there to respond.
Keep loving the diet!