Oh Phoenix Nights is a classic Yowzer, my husband watches that over and over again, and I think each time you’ll notice something new. I’ll have to show you a pic of me in Fancy Dress as Young Kenny in May! Remember when he had his face spray painted as a tiger and it wouldn’t come off???
Did you watch the spin off Max and Paddy’s Road to Nowhere?
I like Jon Richardson too, he’s so funny. And sweet.
Frankie Boyle takes it too far. I like a bit of a laugh and can wince at some things that are near the knuckle and not let them offend, but he’s too much even for me. And that’s saying something.

Ah now you’re talking old school comedians Yowzer, times (and comedy) have changed! Not always sure whether for the better either!

Tokyo – no help as per usual, love! 😉 Maybe Janey will have some hints after her recent crappy holiday.

As an alternative to dynamite, I found Carbzone low carb bread (OH found on Ocado) to both taste quite reasonable (bit like German rye bread) and also to have unexpected and appreciated effects on what we call “digestive transit” in our house. (No we don’t, just joking – was thinking only the other day about the efforts of the advertising agencies to find the most acceptable phrase for this whilst they worked on the laxatives accounts) 😉

Oh lovely,LYNNE..well done on tracking down some new togs! And getting plenty of steps in at the same time! Wow over six miles! I hope yr tootsies arent sore!
What are you gonna have for yr dindins tonight? Dining out or bought something to eat back at yr BnB?
What plans for tomoz? The Christmas shop?x

dynamite lucky dynamite!!!!!💣💣

Best comedian? So hard to pin it down to one, LUCKY
I love Peter Kay..he is spot on with his observations..and Phoenix Nights was hilarous!
i also love Peter Serafinowicz..hard name to say or spell…very funny Liverpool comedian.
And i love Eddy Izzard.
Some comedians i like but their delivery is quite slow and i find that tiring! E.g.,Stewart Lee.its brilliant timing but i lose patience tho its actually worth waiting!
I like sillybilly stuff too…has anyone listened to Count Arthur Strong on radio 4? He had a tv series recently.

I havent seen Frankie BOyle Lucky..he doesnt sound very good from what you say!

Anyone remember the programme The Comedians on tv years ago? Some very funny comedians on there.x

Hi everyone

I’m on holiday in York for a few days.

Managed to find a few items of clothing (still to be tried on!) – underwear, a top and a pencil skirt. Shops visited today range from Designer Outlet Mall, through M&S to Sainsburys and Asda. And many stopping points inbetween

Yesterday I walked 10,357 steps or 7.24 km (4.5 miles). Today it’s 14,755 steps or 10.29 km (6.4 miles).

LUCKY and all..
A great blog about Livlife bread ..well worth a read..wd have copied n pasted it but its a bit long.
And its available in Morrisons as well as Waitrose! X and the bread sounds very promising.
Whats interesting is the blogger started low carbing some time ago after reading a book by a Doctor Bernstein back in 2010! Of only we had known!
http://missjengrieves.com/2014/02/27/livelife-bread/

Anyone got any tips for getting more fibre into me, the best types of foods? The pain relief I am on for my back leaves me with terrible constipation, I’m loathe to take laxatives, and I’m terrified I’ll end up with faecal impaction or something, after hubby had it once :-O

It is indeed 🙂 I want to make some spelt bread with the wholemeal flour this week too. I couldn’t face it today after yesterday’s baking and the mess, you did see the picture, right??? Maybe tomorrow.

Btw from previously…

Igor, that pudding sounded delicious!

Yowzer, well done on the PJ’s! I haven’t wore PJ’s for years, but I know hubby bought me some a few years back, why I’ll never know, but they may fit me now…! Didn’t then, for sure!

Nice to see you again Barista, and glad you’re at maintenance now! Well done! Still a way to go for me yet, but I’m enjoying myself on the journey anyway!

You are indeed Tokyo 😉

i have to say i worship at the altar of greg davies oh yes i am his disciple!!!!!!!

Random question – who is everyone’s favourite comedian, and who do you just not ‘get’?

My favourite is Peter Kay, and I think Frankie Boyle is about as funny as an STD.

livlife lucky i thought its connected to co op possibly they had a web site
its another trick in our bags for us post 8
weekers!! its getting to be quite a good bag 👜👜

Hi all, just wanted to celebrate. I finished my eight weeks at 12 stone and 1 pound which is 1lb less than two stones lost 😊 Very happy with that. We went away this last week, on holiday, which was lovely and I paid very little attention to diet restrictions for the week, (except that my tastes have changed a lot so lots of my choices stayed the same as the BSD recommendations) and I find on coming home that I have only put on a pound and three quarter. Which really sets me up to start again with another eight weeks. If I can lose another two stone I’ll be getting into the healthy bmi range which would be fantastic. I wouldn’t have believed, earlier this year, that I could potentially be at a healthy weight by Christmas 😀
Thanks to all the people who post regularly, reading about you all keeps me on track

I think some Waitrose sell it too? Oooooooh…!

well whilst buying oppo in budgens i have found bread low carbs !!!!! livlife 3 g a slice and 68 cals like a seeded loaf i had it toasted and it was good for those days when you just fancy a bit of bread janey and lucky 🍞🍞🍞

I’d never heard of Budgens until Runforfun – the Oppo girl came on. I don’t think we have any in my neck of the woods either, Yowzer. Might be stocked somewhere else though?

What was it called Tokyo?

Oops pressed the wrong button
As I was saying, I will have to go through those cravings again as I come off sugar. (What an idiot).
Anyway I am back and ready.
I am a Wednesday weigher too and as of today am a stone down on where I started.
I do hope this 8 weeks will be easier as I had too much time away in the last 8 weeks.

Mmm. LUCKY that little warbies seeded loaf! X
I’ m not gonna eat bread at all for my first eight weeks ( day one week 8 today teehee!) and actually the idea of bread seems too heavy now..but will be nice to have one to turn to in future thats low carb and seedy..no Budgens up here i dont think tho..used to go Budgens in London when my DD lived there..loved it!

Hi everyone. I am just starting my second eight weeks after a week off on holiday. I guess I will have to go through those cravings ahain

Day 43
Wednesday 31 August 2016

Sitting here getting a few projects done and some orders. calling a few clients to follow up today. It was a big day yesterday with Ferrer, Andy Murray, Serena Williams, Venus Williams, and Del Potro winning all the games at Day 2.

My stomach was not so hungry. Then 8 last night I grabbed a can of tuna and munched on that before Serena’s game at 8 PM. I did good last night not doing a George Costanza at the Arthur Ashe Stadium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7MgaRS0MIE

Plan to not do one for the rest of the US Open.

Woooooooooo Tokyo, I love seeded bread! That little Warbies seeded loaf used to be my favourite!

Well todays news is whilst out buying oppo in budgens i have found some low carb bread 3 g a slice 68 cals it looks like bread if little and it tastes like bread just like a seeded loaf really get in just hand some toasted delish!!!!

Nice to hear from you all. Yes Yowzer I am still at a stone lost so all good there. I had lost a bit more but put a few pounds back on .

Fuzzyjammies shall we be adventurous and join the other thread?

Hi Lowenna

You are correct in that some strength exercise, if not done with the right technique, can cause issues. I am a PT in a gym and I spend quite a bit of my time correcting technique. If you don’t have underlying issues or weaknesses, most exercise are adaptable to anyone’s ability level and are quite safe.

Re your question about swimming – go for it! Swimming is a great form of full-body exercise . It’s not quite strength training but the water adds resistance so you will still build strength. It’s also great for improving stamina, aerobic performance and boosting your metabolism.

Enjoy the pool!

How lovely to be at maintenance BARISTA! Well done on that big achievement! 👍🏻 x

FUZZY do you know theres a thread for second cyclers..

https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/2nd-8-weeks-starting-tuesday-august-30th/page/3/#post-35975

I may join it next wednesday as i finish my first 8 weeks next tues! Havent been weighed for several days ( i only weigh in at my DDs ) Cant wait to see the final result! X

Hi Verano

I have a monitor but generally haven’t been testing however because I’m now following the BSD I’ve decided to test every morning as it will give me the most consistent readings and also indicate whether the diet is working.

I wasn’t testing regularly but started to yesterday. I think it’s worth doing as weight loss is only one measure and ultimately getting those blood sugars down is the ultimate goal 🙂

I think it’s worth doing as well because it may help you to see if your blood sugars spike when you eat certain types of food. Hope that helps.

Life on maintenance BSD is fun 🙂 It’s nice to recognise when I am full instead of eating for the thing of it….
We had weekend visitors and to be honest, I was aghast at how much I ate. And wrong foods.
I plucked up the courage to weigh this morning and I had stayed the same! Shock horror! I was sooo pleased. I think that because we are a lot more conscious, when we slip up, it is not as bad as we think or as it ever used to be.
Just stay away from those carbs and we’re victorious.
Want to lose a few more pounds to be at my ideal target but if that takes me a month I don’t mind….. I’m so happy with the new me!
Keep it up everyone!

Hey everybody! Our summer has been crazy – hubby is still not well – heart troubles and kidney problems – he’s been off work a lot – with lots of trips to doctors out of town, which means a lot of take-out meals… My focus for the last 3 or 4 weeks has been to just maintain and I’ve been successful in not regaining what I’ve already lost.

I love the idea of a second 8 weeks! kind of a good way to re-start the process and not feel like a failure and not be overwhelmed by a year-long process.

I’ve lost 10 pounds so far since I started here but when I looked at my fitbit stats I realized that I’m really down 26 pounds since January so I’m trying to be happy with my success and not look at how far I still have to go (I need to lose another 100 pounds)(sigh).

This week I plan to get back to basics – I like the idea of re-reading the book, too, I’ll do that as well!

Hi JMG.
how do you manage to get all your exercise in? As predicted i haven’t even managed a walk since OH came home. And haven’t weighed myself since Monday morning day 3 of week 2 as the scales showed an increase of 1kg over night! Super bloated with retained fluid from imminent period. Refuse to get back on the scales until bloating has gone otherwise i would be very disheartened and definitely would hear the chocolate calling my name. One more day of driving around cramming as many jobs in as we can before he is off again then i can get back to a daily walk with my son. Caro

The principle of this diet is everywhere. On TV, radio i the press. Watched a TV doctor explaining it to the presenter who, when looking at the array of allowed foods asked ‘where are the carbs’ . The doctor pointed him to the fruit, veg and nuts and the idiot said ‘what, no chips’. Still it was Eamon Holmes so what did I expect.

Although no mention of MM or the 800 calories it seems the Med diet is catching on.

If you log onto the phcuk.org and type in Healthy Eating Guidelines and Weight Loss Advice for the United Kingdom you will see that they are absolutely sold on the idea of low carb and low calorie diets for weight loss and improving health. On page 16 there is a picture of a plate division of good foods with half of it coming from simple carbs, so bread, potatoes etc. This was the old advice. Then turn to page 27 and the plate has changed to only include complex carbs explaining that broccoli, cauliflower, courgette, nuts and seeds are carb rich along with fruits like blueberries, raspberries and avocados.

One reason NICE in the UK are not accepting these findings is because they say, although it looks good, more research is needed. In reply to this phcuk carried out their own research and are re-presenting it to NICE. The other reason NICE are not asking medical people to follow this advice is, and I quote …..

“NICE have concerns that the current knowledge and experience of healthcare professionals may not be adequate to implement the LCHF diet throughout the NHS.”

So it is up to us to become the educators. Next time you go see your medical professional, print page 27 and show them what you eat.

You’re right about the chilli Alli W. I usually put it into my tomato sauce!

Verano – and some chilli to make it full on puttanesca! Agree it’s a huge plate full and something I would eat even before started this since I don’t actually like pasta. Delicious

Hello everybody, i must say i really appreciate all your comments, everytime i feel week i just open my inbox and all your determination and optimism pouring out to strenghten me! Thanks a lot! I am sure the community will help to change my lifestyle!

Day 2 was tough, couldnt sleep much the night before and got overwhelmed at work, but still kept to diet, only 1 glass of rose at the evening.
Total weight loss: -2 kg.

Today feeling great, have been packing boxes which weight the same as myself – one hellova exercise…makes me realize how heavy i made myself to be. Time to change.

Have a great day!

Thanks SUNSHINE..ive just had half of my banana,its so delicious ive saved some for later..and tbh it was so filling even tho its only medium size! I used to have a big banana on two thick slices of buttered toast…
phew i cant believe i used to eat bread AND narna in one sitting!

My sister had a heart attack and fortunately was in an ambulance at the time,taking our elderly father to a hospital appt..talk about being in the right place at the right time!
When the drama was over and she was settled in a hospital bed,she was craving bananas as she was so low on potassium
Like you said,At little of what you fancy does you so much good..and its what i love about BSD and 5:2,you really start to hear what yr body is asking for,coz youre not clogging yrself up with carby stuff.

Hey It wd be great if yr OH took on board yr bathroom hint! 😃😃😃😃

Day 2 was much easier. No hunger and I enjoyed all my meals, taken from the book. Feeling great and not tired in the afternoons this week.

Hi all – just starting but my books don’t arrive for a couple of weeks yet so going it alone so to speak.
Can anyone help me with the basics please? I understand 800 cal per day but how do you measure carbs? Can’t see anything in MFP?
Also should you fast ? I see some miss out breakfast .
Really appreciate any inputs!!many thanks !

Hi Yowzer, don’t make the mistake my husband did. He heard bananas were good for you so ate one every day. Next blood test his potassium levels were through the roof. He told his doctor what he had done and of course, just because something is good for you doesnt mean more is better. I should have told him cleaning the bathroom and toilet are good for your heart. Doh….

A little bit of what you fancy etc and I have noticed that the odd carb does not send us back to square one.

So much wisdom back there on end of previous page from LUCKY AND IGOR ..and on various topics…please dont miss them coz we’re on a new page,coz theyre worth reading x
Hi folks,sitting here in pjs i havent worn for a while coz they got too tight ! Now theyre not!
they are clean on..i sleep in big tshirty nightys then if i’ m not going out,i just put on comfy pjs when i get up!
Small non scale victories – arent they fun! 😃😃😃😃 x
And today..da da! ..a banana!..tho they are frighteningly high in carbs! Only my second narna in seven weeks..i do love them and we need the potassium!

Ah Igor, you are a kindred spirit (whatever they are!?). I’m also on maintenance and agree wholeheartedly with your lessons learned. The BSD totally changed my perception of food, appetite and cravings. Now I often can’t be bothered to eat 3 meals, and portion sizes are mini in comparison to my previous meals! I generally avoid all refined carbs BUT if I fancy a beer or a (small) dessert, I have it! The carb Devils can’t get a foothold if there’s just an occasional treat 😉 However my days of drinking bubbly seem to be over.. The BSD hangover after only a couple of glasses is not worth it!!

Hi Verano, I have heard that T2 are not encouraged to test as it makes you all neurotic???? I can see this since my hubby got a BP machine and it is his new best friend but it will wear off. Here in France, because I am on insulin, my doctor encourages me to test once a day, changing the time on alternate days. So day one I test before breakfast, day 2 I test before dinner (so almost on empty stomach). The afternoon test can be higher if I have had a snack but I don’t snack much now on this diet. Whilst I have been on this diet, because I have recognised the shaky feelings as getting too low, I test to make sure I am ok. That was just until I got used to the diet and stabilised my intake, exercise, snack etc. I still test twice a day as this diet is very strict and it helps me decide how much insulin to inject each night. For none insulin users they recommend 1 or 2 times per week.

The ???? was glycogen. If you eat at say 8pm and test your blood at say 8am you have gone 12 hours without food. Your body thinks you need an energy boost so the liver produces a sugar product to see you through until your next meal. Your liver does not know you are on a diet it just detects a lack of nutrients. If you give it a little snack (1 oz of chicken or ham, some yoghurt or a couple of prunes) you fool it into thinking it is being fed and can closed down its auto response. Voila, no spike.

Hi LOOPYLOU welcome back…hope you had a lovely time in Norway! Did you manage to keep the weight you previously lost off? I doubt you put it all back on,so this time round youre already at an advantage as you restart! Good luck..onwards and downwards! X

Igor, I have just had the no carb ploughmans for my lunch (290 calories). It has taken me more than half an hour to get through it, who knew an apple, sliced thinly could be so much. Ended up hubby saying “you could always give me some of the apple” so I did.

I’m not ready to give up the 800 yet as my HBA1c has a way to go, but see me finally sticking with the Med diet.

Have you discovered courgetti yet?

I keep banging on about courgetti in a home made tomato sauce. Add, capers, olives, anchovies and Parmesan for a really tasty meal and very low carb/cal. Add any protein you like or just more Parmesan. Life savour when your hungry because it’s looks like so much food and it’s only maybe 1 large cougette!

Amiyo

Have a look at the following site.
Enter your details, give info re activity levels, estimate your body fat.

http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com

Then see what happens if you lower your carb grams per day. Whilst you are eating Mediterranean/BSD you may still be having quite a high carb load.

I didn’t have a lot to lose and set carbs at 20g per day (tricky but do-able).
See my thread “not too much to lose but…” by searching top right, or check through my Username.

This may be the key for you. I was very successful, by the way.

Hope that helps 🙂

thank you, sunshine-girl.

I’m on maintenance now, and still just bumbling round trying to get a handle on it – checking on MFP what the carb content of things are, and checking up on calories (because though you get used to various combos, it’s interesting to see nutrients).

I need to eat about 1500 calories per day for maintenance, which is in fact quite a lot if you don’t eat refined carbs.
But I feel so great on restricted carbs, I’m keeping those relatively low…..therefore a bit of fat from the cream of my lovely treaty desserts was quite ok. And still eating when hungry, which means that this morning though I’ve had three cups of coffee (standard for me) I’ve not had breakfast yet, so it’ll be lunch when I get to it.

I think my major lessons from the BSD are

– watch those refined carbs, they may be doing unexpected things to you and not just weight gain
– eat mindfully, and really enjoy food as it’s lovely (sometimes surprisingly so)
– try lots of different food and experiment in cooking as your tastebuds recover from the carb fog
– and enjoy the results of the weight loss!

To everyone just starting, please don’t worry too much – it’s only 8 weeks, and will shrink up to nothing behind you.
Let your body do the changing at its own pace. You can’t hurry it up, you will be different from other people.
Watch the measurements as well as everything else.

To all the old-timers, keep on losing!!! 🙂

🙂 🙂 🙂

Sunshine-girl …. Great! You’ve cracked another milestone.

Chookymama – thank you 🙂 Yes I think portion control has been the things that’s got out of hand for me – I just LOVE tasty food and certainly eat way too much of it. I just saw Verano’s reply to your post – I think they may be right. Tiny portions are so depressing. Although I have to say the mushrooms and goats cheese served on a smaller plate did actually look quite a lot – thankfully! Good luck too 😊