It might be the balance of protein and fat in the diet. Excess protein can stimulate blood sugar levels in some people. Maintaining less than 20gm of Carbs, whilst keeping protein at or only just above the 50gm minimum recommended in the BSD book (if I read it right) whilst increasing fat intake to provide the balance of calories and energy requirements might get the blood sugar response you are looking for.

Hope this helps

Day 35
Tuesday 23 August 2015

Breakfast: None

Lunch: 1130 AM
1 Cup greek yogurt with strawberries

Snack:
Apple
Peach
Handful SUnflower seeds
2 Celery Stalks with cream cheese

Dinner: 630
Pepper Steak with Zuccinni
Bowl of Black Bean Soup

Hi Caro,

Welcome! I would love to share the journey with someone.

It was not the best week for me to start last week due to a 4-day trip to the mountains with a group of friends. Too much yummy food and wine ( I didn’t bother recording my calories for those four days). As a consequence, this week’s loss has been fairly minimal – only 300g total over the week – 64.2kg. Hopefully I will be more focused this week with no trips away or eating out.

Day 7:
Breakfast: 2 boiled eggs
Lunch: Ratatouille/Miso Soup
Dinner: 2 boiled eggs
Snacks: Freddo Frog/Muffin (coconut flour)
Drinks: 2 tea with milk
Water: 8 glasses
Calories: 746
Carbs: 42g
Steps: 23076 (including 5km tempo run & 6km walk)
Weight loss: 100g
Fast: 16hrs

OMG! Fasting Blood Sugar this morning is 4.7 WOW!

Still on full medication but sheesh!!! I am not sure if I have ever had it that low….

Look at me go!! hehehe

Thank you all for your replies. It is early morning in Oz and i must admit i am dreading the slump today. Yesterday i had my lunch just as i started flagging but it made no difference to my energy levels. And i walked around 3pm for school pickup. Dragged myself home with my daughter bouncing around. So unfair! Will see how i go today. Thanks again

Hi Lucyjane.
I am on day 5 this morning. Similar situation as you with two young children. One at school the other 1yr old. I’m 40 and figure if i don’t get my weight back now i never will. I don’t have heaps to lose but find it very challenging being around food all day preparing for the kids. Also my dad has many serious complications from diabetes and his dad had it too. Both tofi’s so i know it could be in my future if i don’t do something about my staple foods. I have always loved vegetables yet have crumbled with toast, cereal and chocolate as my go to pick me ups. I don’t find time to exercise with having my little man with me so the most i can do is go for a walk. OH works away so i am a single parent for 2 weeks out of every 3. Thinking of getting a pedometer so i can track just how many steps i do constantly following my son around. Hopefully they add up! Would be happy to keep chatting if it helps.

AVILAsending you hugs x glad you have yr doggie,they are great therapy x
LUCKY the film was Swallows and Amazons…basically a kids film but loved it,filmed in the Lakes and Yorkshire.
Only one other adult in there apart from us two! Oh i tell a lie..another woman was there,but she got up and scurried out as it started,clutching loads of bags..i was admiring how nimble she was nipping down the stairs in the dark! Think she must have gone into the wrong screen number!😃😃😃😃
Its one of those films that’s lovely for sunday evening telly…. If accompaniedby a big oldfashioned Sundayevening tea,even better !Night everyone x✨✨✨✨🌙🌙🌙🌙🌙🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌛🌛🌛🌛🌛🌛 xx

Avila your dog is amazing. To think your dog drags you out for a walk is such a positive thing. You had a binge, its just being human and one that we all have done at some point.. Remember tomorrow is a new day 🙂

Lucky, you sound exhausted. Hope you don’t get up too early tomorrow!

Frog, well done on the trousers.

Week 2 – Day 2

Weight – 88.0kg (down 0.8kg for the day and down 3.1kg overall)

Another really clean day yesterday has shown on the scales. Certainly appear to be losing weight from the top down, with my waist showing less signs of loss that my face, neck and upper body – good motivation to keep going – shift the stubborn tyre.

A reduced eating window (1pm – 8pm) and the use of soups with the addition of a 1/2 tablespoon of coconut oil (good for satiety I have been told – although a little high in calories) has been a good way to stay in control over the last two days.

Mental clarity has been great although, feeling a bit weak this morning. Will monitor protein and fat intake today to ensure I am getting enough. Have a work lunch today which will be a test of control and might mean a very small dinner tonight.

87.0kg end of week 2 target appears within reach so I am keen to maintain the momentum.

Verano, I could start back on Tues as we have no shops here on a Sunday so will have to do my stock up on Monday, start Tuesday. I think that is why it was Tuesday for me,

Hi Langerhans,
I agree with both igorasusual, and Imogen, please make sure you look after yourself! You can’t do what you do day in day out without making sure you are I good health mentally, physically, and emotionally, however, I suspect being a nurse you already know that, so for now follow that famous phrase ‘physician health thyself’. I hope you will soon be feeling better, enjoy that soak in a hot/cool bath, perhaps with some soothing aromatherapy oils?
Christine

computer backed up – it is keyboard issue

Christine – Thanks. It is a long term condition, under docs and pysch, and meds etc. Just me and the dog here, I don’t know how I would cope with others, dog drags me outside on bad days. Was coasting on the enthusiasm of the diet and changes. What goes up usually comes down….

Will find my balance. Meanwhile the binge left me feeling blurgh about the bad foods, so taste has been affected on this pattern of eating

Hi all,
Yesterday was the start of week 29 for me, I have about two weeks before I see the doctor, so need to be good and get this weight off!

So here goes,
Weight today is 12.3.0 that’s four ounces off and a total since I started back to basics of 2lb 8oz! Well pleased with that!

So food today,
Breakfast, two poached eggs with one sliced tomato and tea
Midday meal, smoked salmon and prawn salad with tea
Evening meal, chickien stuffed with pine nuts, spinach and ricotta cheese anothe bsd meal, with roast ratatouille, home made, and water
Supper, coffee, and one chocolate.
Plus this morning while out shopping stopped for a coffee.
Well under 50 carbs and just under 800 calories.

Went out shopping today so did a bit of walking, not really excercise walking however it has been really hot so wouldn’t have wanted to do much more than I already did. My back and legs have been fine today too, so that’s an improvement!
Christine.

Hi Avila,
I am so sorry that you have been feeling depressed, I hope you have someone who is there for you? Never mind about the alcohol and (probably) binging on food? Just put it behind you and pick yourself up and carry on with the diet, so what if you had a drink and some food because you are feeling awful, you have people on the forum who can ‘talk’ to you and get you back on track.
I am not presuming anything here, so, have you been to the doctor and got help for your depression? Is there anyone who can help you at home it’s hard enough doing this diet without having to cope with depression, believe me I have been there with bells on!
I hope you will soon feel better, I will be thinking about you, do take care, we care on this forum.
Christine

Oh Avila, it does suck.

Being completely completely serious now, if you can, back up your computer. I know some of you might scoff and take the p*** out of me (Janey…) but we’re coming up to Mercury Retrograde. I have lost 4 or 5 computers over the last few years, and always, always ALWAYS during M.R. Not just computers, other electronics, but specifically that is what sticks in my mind because I have to replace them and sometimes have to get someone to retrieve lost stuff off them. So four times a year I’m like something possessed backing up my photos and documents to a hard drive. Mine has started playing up today…

By all means you can take the mick out of me too, but just in case, back up anything important… 😉

You’re here and you’re posting and you’re acknowleging you’ve had a crap couple of days diet wise, that’s half the battle. It’s nothing that can’t be undone in a few days. Hugs.

ENJOY!!!!

I finish my 8 on 31st but no problem in starting on the 29th. I’m away on September 4th for 3 weeks and would be happier to start another round before I go.

Strangely enoughTuesday has been my weigh in day for years and years and years!!! Maybe if would do me good to have a different one!

Day 5 BS 8.2 mmol/L. great news for me, not sure when this will level out. The weight loss has not been as good, I have lost about 4 lbs since the 20th but the last two days not much as changed.
My walk is getting easier though and I am not feeling as tired. I am off to walk my dog.

I hope everyone will have a good day and thanks for your support.

Ps. It is a beautiful morning in Oz today.

depression sucks – and really messes up diet plans, after drowning sorrow in alcohol and calories.

Had a few triggers in last couple days, and computer playing up is not helping…

Thanks Yowzer 😀 What did you watch? I want to watch 9 Lives. I really, really need to get a life. When I want to watch kids films even when the kids aren’t coming with me…

Oh, and Jan, by grapes, you do mean real grapes and not ‘medicinal’ grapes, don’t you? *retch* #nevereveragain

😉

Verano, I will be doing another 8 weeks on BSD but starting next Monday after the family have left. At least I will be on a Monday, Tuesday has seemed a bit weird. I will be with you if you start a second 8 week thread. Already had 3 wines. oooooops. But also been in the pool 3 times today, total 55 minutes.

Evening everyone, awwww aren’t you all lovely 🙂 Yes, I’ve been feeling under the weather today, came on me not long after I posted this morning. Tried to mooch around the house and do a little housework but ended up falling asleep in my chair. Thanks Janey for erm… graphically pointing out what was wrong with me… Hopefully just a 24 hour bug, and am going to have an early night tonight to try and play catch up. If I didn’t know better I’d have said it was morning sickness, that sort of nausea. But all day. And the ironic thing is, today, no back pain, no hip pain, no leg pain, no knee pain and no bloody heel pain. I can’t even have ONE day without something wrong with me… 😉

Frog, no I don’t have special shoes, just bog standard trainers. And I spend 360 days of the year in flipflops anyway. Even in the snow. People think I’m simple. I say if the flipflop fits… 😉 How did the Nordic Walking go? Huge well done on the trousers too.

Jan, I’m not 100% sure but a lot of women on here and my sister in law and niece have both said it sounds like Plantar… help me fill in the gaps one of you who told me lol. Wonderful medical results there too! Well done! Hopefully someone will sit up and take notice in your surgery 🙂

Bean – well done on size 10! Bet you’re chuffed to bits!

Gymgirl Yowzer Imogen *waves* 🙂

Janey – agreed, I have my ‘legal’ treats and I’ve been fine with them, nothing has made me go loopy and start devouring everything in sight. A little goes a long way with these new ingredients, and it depends completely on the person, only we know whether it’s dangerous or not, or acceptable to us or not. Me personally? Having to follow this with no treats, ever again? That would be a dealbreaker for me. That’s just asking for trouble. So as long as I’m not using crappy stuff and I count it into my calories, I will carry on having the occasional treat. The way I see it, the more recipes I can have in my arsenal, the longer I will be able to sustain this way of eating. And that, for me, includes the occasional pudding.

Frog – I actually made two cakes out of the mixture (albeit small ones, think the tins were 4.5 inches, maybe 5, but they rose up quite high! Think the size of one of those Heinz tinned puddings, but with a dome on top). A small-ish sliver was ample, each sponge cut into 8. My mother, three of my children, my sister in law, hubby and myself all loved it. The texture was similar to a steamed pudding too. I would imagine they would make muffins too, I’ll try that next time and freeze them. But it was nice to have a cake to slice into. Even though the slice was probably smaller than the muffin would have been! Missed a trick there, didn’t I?

Hope you get the job Bean!

Captain Lynne – yes, I did that maybe two years ago? Finally parted with my size 16 suits and pants and lovely cords that I wore when I met my husband in 1999. Gave them to a smaller friend. Finally accepted that I wouldn’t ever slim into them. Slightly gutted now, but thinking about it I am now 40 and not 23 so, maybe I shouldn’t really be wearing the same clothes as I was then 🙂 Besides which I have fallen in love with a range of clothing in EWM and when I get a little more smaller I am going to splurge something rotten!

I’m exhausted now after all that catching up for the day! Thank you all for your well wishes, I think it’s just a combination of tiredness, alcohol intolerance, early mornings, waking up at stupid o’clock and rushing around. Barely finished my washing and ironing after camping and I was back on the road again!

PS hope you make your goal this week!

Hi sunshine-girl

Well done on achieving your 8 week goals that’s great!!! Enjoy your week with the family and don’t stress about the minutiae !

I am just about to start week 8 and was wondering if we should start a new 2nd 8 or something thread. I started on July starters but that has gone rather quiet now. Don’t know how many of the original July starters are still about and how many have reached/exceeded their goals.

Are you planning on doing another 800 for 8 weeks or moving over to 5:2 or Med plan?

Anyway, well done again on reaching your goals.

Yes BEAN too hot for me too..we crawled to the cinema at teatime…i could barely move! Lovely and cool in there but my goodness the amount of cr* p on sale ..have to say it all looked very tasty tho!. I just clutched my bottle of water…and kept walking! 😼😼😼😼😼 xx sigh…..home now to my dindins yayyyyyyy!
Sorry to hear youre not too well LUCKY..i reckon you’re worn out after all that catering. Hope you can rest up a bit now xx
🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 get well soon! 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸

Hi LizEE, I hope you are feeling better. I had my gallbladder removed 7 weeks ago so I feel your pain! I started the BSD back in May and after 3 weeks (and a 12lb weight loss) I had an acute gallbladder attack that resulted in a trip to the hospital and a speedy gallbladder removal in July. My Consultant said that losing weight rapidly can lead to gallbladder attacks and he believes that this is what happened in my case. I already had gallstones (found by chance on a scan 3 years ago) but I was asymptomatic. To be fair, I think this could’ve happened with any weight loss plan I followed, so I re-started the BSD plan 10 days ago and it is all going well – have lost another 8lbs and feel fit and well!

Angiebabe – I also fit the Four F’s – Female, Fat, Fair and Forties … I’m hoping to be less ‘Fat’ shortly though 🙂

Just to let you know that carbs are not necessarily required for energy. The body will get its energy from the fat cells.

So you can certainly try lowering the carbs. OH and I operated well on 20g of carbs per day.

Worth a try?

I’m probably around 25, and others around on here go similarly low. It was the only way to get my blood sugars down, I just had to experiment and test.

If your husband isn’t happy with his blood sugar levels, I’d suggest that he reduces carbs to a level where he is happy and blood sugars are dropping – we all have different points for that.

Others on here have found keeping the protein and fat levels high keep them going through the day without the need for the carbs. We’ve been told we need carbs for far too many years and it’s hard to cut them out, but so many people are now discovering that we can live our normal everyday lives without them (or low levels) while dropping our blood sugar levels and getting healthier.

I’m inspired and impressed! Wow. How long did it take you to get to 23%? I expect with shaping up and losing, you probably do look half your size. Must feel amazing. Congrats.
I have 6 lbs to go, to hit my 10%. New on this journey. Will go for more. But on hold as I recover. Was thinking how much more difficult surgery recovery would be if I was lugging around that extra weight and not eating as healthily as I recently was. So many incentives to take this seriously!

Hi Frog

Yippee 😃💐 on the new trousers! F it were me I ‘d be back for the next size down. Get them while you can.

Part of me wishes I’d kept things as I grew out of them, in the hope I’d shrink back down into them. Trouble is its been so long I’d probably hate them now. 😱

Hopefully I’ll get in a couple of days clothes shopping next week 😃

How low can you go with not getting your carbs, we do building works so physical most of the day so need something to burn don’t we ??

I am thinking good thoughts for you all the way from California.
Julia

Good luck with the job bean, when do you find out

Bril frog 🎉🎉🎉

Perhaps his carbs need to come down further? Some people cope with higher levels than others, while some need really low levels.

Just tried on a pair of trousers that i bought in the House of Fraser sale – TA DAAA!!! SIZE 16!!!
Plain black for work, but ankle length which I like – they have a ‘secret’ elastic panel in the waist, so hopefully they’ll fit reasonably for a while. And they were reduced to £8 – what’s not to like?
I’m half thinking about seeing if they still have them in a 14.
Now I have to reassess which jackets aren’t too tent like!

Also tried on a pile of dresses that I bought a few summers ago when I was even heavier than when I started BSD (hot summer, and was so bit I couldn’t find any trousers that looked half decent & were comfortable) Apart from a couple that are ‘floaty’ and I’ve worn when I’ve been anything from size 12 to 22, they were all huge.

Hi Blue1919

I’d love to travel on the Orient Express. But it’s just so expensive😢

Sounds like you’re doing really well 😃💐

I eat breakfast, then nothing until my evening meal. Sunday is a little different – breakfast, small lunch then a tiny snack in the evening.

I live alone, so find I often eat the same thing several days running. Sometimes I freeze leftovers, sometimes not. Breakfast is usually a cooked breakfast – bacon, egg and slice of black pudding. Otherwise sliced cooked meat and/or cheese – possibly with salad. Evening meal varies. Meat/poultry and veg/salad. I don’t eat much veg/salad – it sometimes has errr ….. unfortunate side effects 😱 So I need to be careful with how much of it I eat! I don’t eat much fish – still trying to persuade myself I like it – with varying degrees of success.

Glad to hear you’re off the Metformin – I was being threatened with it when I starts this.

Hi all so into week 10 still around 800 cal keeping carbs below 50 and only eating good food nothing refined, he is also doing 20/30 mins on the treadmill everyday but the blood sugar is still around 8/9 before diner he has given up taking morning readings as get depressed when they are high, have booked in hab1c next week on holiday for 3 weeks so will get results when back. Does anybody still get these readings so far into the diet would there still be fat around ??? over 2 stone lost in weight any ideas ?? no medication being taken either bp tabs or sugar tabs the bp is around 110/70 just this bloody sugar thing

Carina. I had a lot of weight to lose, needed to get blood sugar levels under control and get some energy back.

Now, after 35 weeks on 800 calories BSD, I’ve lost over 6 stones, blood sugar in normal range, HbA1c in normal range, more energy, thinking more clearly and better concentration.

I’d certainly suggest the 800 BSD. Let us know your progress

Hope the news is good for your job interview Nursebean.

Such an inspiration as always Lucia🌻

Hi Langerhans,

Sorry it’s been a rough day. Here if you need a chat… take care of yourself, as igorasusual says a little self comfort, warm bath, some lovely bath oils to help you relax…get into favourite comfy clothes or pyjamas??… wrap yourself in a cosy blanket and watch your favourite uplifting movie or show. 🌻

Baristagirls……great BMI score…….

and Orchid……plus 4 stones lost. Way to go girls 🙂

I’m not there yet but 3 separate people in the last week have said I’m half the size I was……not accurate ….
strictly speaking I think I’ve lost around 23% of my body weight!!!!!

Excellent, great news. Well done! 🙂

I agree with Frog. The BSD rules say no refined carbs and if you want to follow the BSD you should stick to that.

No problem if you prefer to try something else, but people here have had their success from the BSD rather than variations.

Hope that helps.

So sorry to hear that, Langerhans. Being a nurse does put you at the forefront of bad stuff and it’s no surprise you are upset.

Can you comfort yourself – that’s what you need – with a warm bath, some candles, a warm drink (it may be a very hot day with you too, so maybe a cool bath) and some music?

But you should also forgive yourself. Sometimes things are hard and you do what you do.

Thinking of you.

Hi Orchid
Good luck with the walk in September.
Your training sounds good preparation. A marathon sounds pretty impressive to me. Managed to do 12/14 mile (?) charity walk earlier in the year but was limping quite badly towards the end so I think a marathon distance would be really hard!!
Do plenty of other exercises though and try to mix it up a bit to wake my body up and get a bit toned….ha ha!!
Must be working though as I don’t have flab on my legs and arms …..no Bingo Wings any more.
.
I do spinning classes sometimes for the cardio benefits but not every week. Been trying to do more Body Pump atm to help
the wobbly tummy!!!! Not shifting any weight but losing visceral and subcutaneous fat….hark at me.!!!
Tummy is wobbling less….and I may even be gaining a waist.
What’s not to like?

Get up and waddle around folks……you know it makes sense!!!!
(It doesn’t need to be a fearsome indoor cycling class btw…..unless you’re a bit mad like us!!!)

Hi,
I’m on day 9 of bsd800 and it’s been going fine so far, sticking to plan and enjoying the food.
Something really nasty happened at work today (I’m a nurse) and I’m just home now feeling tearful and shaken up, and trying really hard not to comfort/emotional eat. Help me please…

So gang,
Where are we?
Are we all doing the bsd 800?
Or are you just thinking about ?
Reading about it?
Finding it too hard to start?
Well how about little reductions?

I used to eat the big family bars of chocolate, I changed the size to a kiddies one, like a cadburys Freddie chocolate bar.
I used to eat two take aways , and large chips, curry sauce and half a loaf with butter on.
So I changed the size to one take away or one curry and small chips., and just one round of bread and butter.
I used to eat a full family bag of crisps, or the ones with 8 bags in, I ate the lot in one sitting, so I changed it to one bag of crisps.

I still had the taste of the junk food but single portions.

When I started the bs diet, I changed what I ate to “normal food”. For a week, then I changed into the Bs diet.

You just got to do something even if it’s to reduce the size of the junk food.

Then change one meal a day,

Then two,

Then count your calories

Then your carbs

Little by little.

Thinking of having a go now?

Come on in, the waters fine

Love Lucia
Xxxx

sounds idyllic Gavin – enjoy!

It depends which diet you choose to follow really, BSD or whatever the Daily Mail is currently promoting.
If you plan to follow BSD, then piles of carbohydrate, hot or cold, is not part of the plan.

If you don’t have the book, there’s a link above to purchase it.