Fo Fi – I got it wrong! on normal calorie days you won’t be a lightweight like me lol 🙂

Hooray for Bill… wow… good for you mate…my goal too…!!!

Kes, well done, I love the inches of the belly – it’s a lovely feeling, and 10lbs is a lot 🙂

Whalleyrange 3kg in first week is impressive, well done 🙂

Fantastic news Janet, there’ll be no stopping you now!!! 🙂

Really sweet Judith but the thing that really got to me was the other night when I was doing my Greek yoghurt and strawberries, the wife asked me to do some of her yoghurt for her, it was commercial low fat mango flavour stuff.
All I did ws taste the spoon after I had doled it out and the taste was so sickly sweet, I had to wash my mouth out.
Fatty (soon no to be) yeah I did reduce the metformin, it’s early days but so far I’m not really seeing any rise in BS levels, all very encouraging. In fact so much so that, if I can keep these readings within normal levels for a week, I’m going to try going med free.

On the 19th of January this year I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, on the same day I bought the 8 week blood sugar diet and started dieting the following day.

I had blood tests last week and have got the results this morning, 24th March…I no longer have diabetes I’m in the normal range, my cholesterol is the best its ever been and I am two stone lighter .

Thank you, can’t say anymore, just thank you.

Sounds like our house then!

Sorry, I won’t be drinking on 800. Today is my last day after seven and half weeks I’m having a 10 day sabbatical on to the Mediterranean way of life. I always intended to do seven and half weeks, we have a family event this weekend. After this 10 day period I will return to Fast800 for 3 or 4 weeks. I will be interested what happens to my waist and weight over the 10 days.

Mandy, you say you don’t have dairy
Are you sure you’re getting enough fat into your daily allowance ? 2 weeks is at the extreme end of having no weight loss so maybe Have another look at what you’re eating and see if you can cut a few more carb calories and replace them with fat.

Thank you will try

Hello

here’s some of my favourites that allow you to move away from eggs:)

small pear, anchovies, Greek yoghurt
cottage cheese with berries and seeds
sliced ham rolled around strawberries

😉
TBH Cherrianne, she wouldn’t give a hoot, we have a great relationship and that kind of banter between us, and indeed with the kids too, is commonplace.
Anyhow, I’m forced to sit and listen while they extoll the virtues of the latest TV or movie heart throb so, a little retaliation is allowed 😉

I like fage Greek yoghurt -it’s really filling and lovely with raspberries.

Way to go Janet !!!
That first stone mark is magical isn’t it ?
Here’s to the next one
Kes, nice to see you again, you’re doing well too, keep those good figures up
Whalleyrange, that can’t be bad at all for just a week can it ?
I’ve reintroduced myself to my toes over the last couple of weeks, it’s strange to be able to look down and see them rather than needing a mirror.
Won’t be long before you’re making new holes in your belt.

Well week one is over and I have lost 3kg and 5cm from my belly. I can look down and just about see my toes for the first time in a while. Have really enjoyed reading the positive contributions on the forums which are full of good ideas and encouragement. Feeling very positive about going forward with the 800.

Well done Janet, (can’t wait to lose my first stone) and everyone else and thanks for all the encouragement.

I forgot to come back and post my week 2 results so here they are now, another 2lbs down (10lbs total in 2 weeks) and another inch off my belly so 2 inchs total.

We won’t tell her if you don’t Bill 😉

I never knew that the Fitnesspal data came from people recording the nutritional figures themselves. Will explain the wild variations and so will need to find another calorie counter app. I’m sure that as I go further I will start to learn what sounds right and wrong. I like the discipline of e calorie restriction as it really motivates me to use all the cals I have as tasty as possible. Thanks for the replies and advise they have been very helpful and encouraging. It’s the end of week one for me and lost 3kg.

Yeah Mick I’ve dreamed of having a body for years
Unfortunately the wife isn’t doing the diet 😀
Ok it’s just a breaking up for the holiday joke 🙁

Yayyyy go me!!!!!

First stone lost! Just another one to go and for the first time in years I actually believe I can do it!

Thanks to everyone on these forums, it makes such a big difference to be able to share the highs and lows. Especially the highs!

Hi I am on day 11 and needs some more ideas for breakfast at 200 cal any suggestions???
I don’t like the drinks as they don’t fill me up I prefer food and have tried all the egg recipes in the book

FoFi, I think that will be the way. It is a feasible lifestyle and can be adjusted on an ad hoc basis as Mr Mosley has said.
And on the fasting days one can always look forward to tomorrow!

One thing for me is the fact that the 800 diet has put me on the way to having the body I’ve dreamed of for years, already I haven’t looked this good since I was 18. Once I’ve got it I’d like to try to keep it.

Hi nigel, I live on my own so my foods can be quite repetitive over three days, i.e. if I have made a frittata I have to have it 2 days running.
Sainsbury’s do little pots in trios, if you get a long shelf life that should help. The advantage is you know exactly how many calories in each little pot.
You could also try some of the dips from the book. If I make my own dips I freeze them in portion size containers – it works just fine. You could also separate your shop bought hummus into individual portions and freeze it so you can ring the dietary changes a bit!
As your breakfasts and dinners are varied I really wouldn’t worry 🙂

I am now on day 11 and the light headed feeling is going away drink lots of water and herbal teas
Your body will adjust soon keep going

Mandy, get the tape measure out it may tell you more than the scales. My weight has been consistently the same this week ( increased my calories) but the ketostix show I am still fat burning and my waist has shrunk again. Don’t despair, check what you eat, check with your tape measure and if you haven’t bought some ketosticks I would recommend you get some as they will tell you if you are fat burning which will reassure you. I got mine from Amazon for just under £5 and they were P and P free.
🙂

Hi Proodles I’m a bit late with this, but welcome to the forums from me as well! As you have already found the low carb diet does make you feel a lot better quite quickly. Looking forward to posts about your journey 🙂

>>Has anyone else considered this and have you thought of ways to deal with it?

Bill, I have long way to go before I get to my desired weight, but in a few weeks I will be switching to some variant of 5:2 (probably 3:4 – larger portions of low carbohydrate food at the weekend and a couple of glasses of wine and then Fast800 Monday to Thursday). I am hoping that if this is as successful as the past few weeks has been (obviously with proportionately less weight loss) then as I lose more weight I will reduce the number of fasting days. I assume that I will probably always fast at least one day per week.

Hi all, I’m getting intermittent headachey spells (middle of week 2) which mostly settle when I drink water. So hydration is clearly important. Most days I feel great overall (much better than preBSD) but I’ve had one day feeling crap (coincided with a stressful day at work) and some of the old food thoughts started to creep in. I drank water and got through it.

Hi cherrieanne a bit of stress waking me up at the mo – two nights on the trot! I have decided to just get up, make a cuppa, look at the forums and read for a while and when I’m tired go back to sleep! It’s worked quite well as I have ended up with the right amount of sleep. Thanks for your good wishes, I hadn’t thought about my early morning posts being spotted derrrr 🙂

Bill and hashimoto, I love that we can share experiences and thoughts in this way 🙂

The Grand Wardrobe Sort Out is something I’m sooooo looking forward to!
My clothes range over 5-6 sizes currently ;-(

Thank you Cherrianne. Some great advice. I’m amazed at how filling the meals are. After the first few days I thought I would be starving. However, I have been the exact opposite. Im actually FEELING hungry when I’m supposed too. Not grazing on rubbish all day and then eating huge carb meals and feeling awful.
I’m excited to see what my weeks results will be and hopefully my blip won’t be a huge downfall.

FoFI I think if you tried 2 glasses of wine on 800 calories you would be well and truly drunk – I have found that I get pretty tipsy on a small shot glass of wine now!!! Well, it saves money!! 🙂

Bill I actually find now that some nuts taste really sweet – I’m thinking of almonds and cashews. Do you find the same? I think I’ll google the nutritional value – I should have done it before

OK now I’m getting worried. Week 4 and this is the second week that I have not lost a single pound. Last week I had that extra lamb chop but not this week. I don’t have dairy so there isn’t anything sneaking in under the radar. I’m running more now. How can I not be losing weight?

Bill I totally agree with you, things like chocolate which I used to love so much make me gag at the sight of them now. Newlife I think you will find the same as Bill and I – you will just go off the old stuff. I think you hit the nail right on the head when you mentioned that diets such as WW and SW rely on a lot of sweet junk food. This doesn’t and your tastes will change given a bit more time.
I have said before that now I find the sugary smells in some shopping aisles quite nauseating – ME – a one time chocoholic!!! 🙂

I’m sure there are many like this. I get up early to go to work, so I prepare lunch the night before. I tend to have the medi platter – pepper, cucumber tomatoes, olives & feta with shop bought hummus. The Hummus says eat within 3 days once opened. so I tend to have the same thing 3 or 4 days in a row. I have to say it appears to be quite a large portion, but I do enjoy it. Is this a good thing or a bad thing to be repetitive. Breakfast and dinner are varied. I’m on my 5th week, up till last week I had lost 16lb, this week I put 2lb, a little bit disappointing

Hi Judith,
What were you doing up so early? That’s two posts I read from the early hours ( your time). I always look at the time of the posts cos I’m sometimes reading them in what is the middle of the night for you.
Hope you get a better sleep tonight. 🙂

Hi georgiarose, my blood pressure has always been on the low side throughout my life. I experienced what you are going through during the first month and then it sorted itself. In fact I had forgotten all about it until I just read your post!! So hang on in there! 🙂

Inserting is it not Bill 1954…

Different foods do affect us all so differently… I had eggs for dinner with cheese and went to bed on 7. Woke up with 8.9 but had some bad news about a friend in Oz in the middle of the night, SO…. is it diet, dawn Phenom or Stress??… probably all of the above. Haha we need a set of gauges on our body that we can reed, like a car dashboard…. sometimes I think it is like throwing chicken bones on the ground and trying to figure out the future…. But anyway. Lets keep at it and nutting it out when we can and hopefully helping one another too… Did you halve your Metformin yesterday??…
I am like you in that the weight just does not really matter… its the BSL that worries me…. coz if I blame the weight I have too many arguments in my head to defeat myself on weight loss….

Thank you Sunny B!
Once upon a time I would have scoffed the entire bag of Easter eggs. I managed to walk away today.
I’m glad I’m keeping in the carb range then. Onwards and downwards in weight that is.

I think that also there is something about none that is simple. If it is none versus some then why not 2 rather than 1? Strangely for me I have sat next to a half open box of cans for the last 7 days and for the last 3 or 4 days have had no trouble resisting. But I have decided none so I haven’t had one. My problem is that I am bored with water (3+ litres per day some of it fizzy) rather than having any real desire for the other stuff. Looking forward to the future with the odd tomato juice or miso soup – I would rather eat the calories at the moment rather than drink them!

This weekend I start drinking wine again (none since January). This I have missed and it will be interesting to see if I can keep it down to a couple of glasses per day (for 10 days back to Fast800 after that).

Hi buxtonmick, bill, newlife, Sharon

I agree that the future when target weight is reached is a scary thing, so much so that I was afraid that once I was eating more than 800 calories I would put the weight back on even if I followed the principles of this diet BUT….

I have quietly carried out a minor experiment over the last week to ease my mind…
I have increased my calories but stuck to the low carbs for a week now and I have not put weight back on, in fact, the ketosticks still show I am fat burning and I almost had an accident in town yesterday I was trying to keep my jeans up and carry my food shopping!! Surprisingly although my weight is apparently the same I have lost another inch of my waist! I have been eating roughly 1200 calories – pretty much the same as I was eating before this diet but was still putting weight on.

I now have the confidence to return to 800 calories to shift a bit more belly fat but am no longer worried about the future. A friend asked me yesterday if I would start eating carbs again when I reached my target weight – my answer? No, I haven’t felt this well in over a decade why would I wreck it? However I will treat myself to an odd roast potato and roast parsnip at Christmas, on other special occasions I might do the same and I will enjoy the odd glass of red wine. BUT I will effectively be following this way of eating for life.

I know that I run the risk of developing diabetes because I have hashimoto’s hypothyroidism. I do not want diabetes!!!! That is motivation enough for me and today I am going to sort out the clothes which are now too big for me and get rid of them – I have never had the confidence to do that before, hence clothes in every conceivable size packed away in my wardrobe!!!

Another incentive… I bought a new dress for my son’s graduation, it sort of fit OK but I didn’t look too good in it with all that belly fat. I have just tried it on again and I am over the moon, it looks so much better on me now!!!

Perhaps we should all keep one set of clothes which are too big as a reminder not to get back into that situation again!

To be honest I actually like the food on this diet – a besam flour flatbread with a nice jalfrezi really rocks my boat! 🙂

Hi Proodles,
Some people have chosen to go very low carb, around the 20g mark. There are nearly as many opinions about this as threads on the forums lol. Most aim for 50g a day or just under. This should give you a good variety of foods to choose from, and the chance to include full fat yoghurt and milk.
I have found by aiming for 15g carb per meal, with an extra 5 in reserve, I can keep a consistent blood sugar level in the non diabetic range. My fasting levels came down quickly to low 5’s, then under 5. A blip in fasting levels happened at the end of week 3 and lasted nearly 3 weeks but is now back down again. See the rising fasting blood sugar thread if you want to learn more.
Not a definitive answer, but hope it helps 🙂

Hi Proodles
Well done on defeating that blip with a nice long walk.
Carbs kept anywhere between 50g and 20g is good, so you’re doing fine. Keep up the good work and you should be telling us of good results soon.

Hi CurlyGirl,
I’m in Australia too. I bought my book from Big W. They had a few copies there. I think they were selling fast though. I had a woman ask me to point them out to her as i was walking to the registers.
Hope that helps… 🙂

Interesting
thinking more about it, I think that in the past, using the low fat approach, I’ve always retained the longing for food I couldn’t have, eg chocolate, chips, and my greatest downfall of all, milk !
I love the stuff and at one point in my life, when I drove a taxi for a living, it wouldn’t be unusual for me to come home at about 4 am and sit and drink a whole 2 litre bottle of the stuff.
The difference now is I don’t just not fancy these foods, I’m actually starting to dislike them when I see others enjoying them, including the milk!
I still don’t believe I can go to the fridge and not gulp the stuff down.
I’m hoping that having a low carb maintainence plan will keep me feeling that way.

Fasting level at 7.1 this morning 🙂
I have come to the conclusion though that mixed nuts are not the ideal late night snack for me.
I’ve monitored this for about 10 days now and I always have a higher fasting reading when I have nuts as a late night snack than I do when I have yoghurt or cheese.
I think I’ve learned more about my body in the last 8 weeks than I did in the rest of my life.

Well done Nic 🙂

Bill, as a yo-yo dieter in the past, I’ve been thinking a lot about the long-term…and I won’t say I’m not scared. I’ve been here before, lost 50lb only to regain it all. The reason why is always clear: I start to eat chocolate etc again, I kid myself that THIS time I can cope with it in moderation. I can’t.

So what’s going to be different? (nothing changes if nothing changes)

All my previous diets (WW et al) have still included sugar/refined carbs/junk. This one doesn’t and I’m hoping this will be enough to break the cycle, break the addiction. I plan to continue a low carb med-style eating plan for the rest of my life. For me, 40yrs experience tells me this is the only way I’ll succeed.

Easy.
And…hard. Temptation will always be there.

2 and 1/2 weeks and going well, except tonight blood pressure must be down. Slightly feint feeling and if raise head or get up suddenly, very dizzy. Didn’t even feel like eating tonite. Anyone else?