Lynne I read your 16 weeks thread. Amazing results. Didn’t want to spoil it with a comment so doing it here. 🙂

hi Janet, I’m thinking of one thread with information for new BSDers which can include all the useful stuff we have learned. I’m hoping that when we complete it newbies can ask questions in other forums so we can leave it as purely informative. 🙂

Barby, absolutely no need to apologise, great minds and all that!!! Only the tech team can make it ‘sticky’ so I hope they will. We have learned so much on this journey and it will be so much easier for newbies to have an information thread written by the BSD old timers 🙂

Bill is the ‘father’ of the forums so I want to see his input on this idea 🙂

Hi Hashimoto – really well done – have a lovely lunch!

Thanks all, Lynne I too am a silver oldie (or would be if I left the dye off)!

Janet, I do the same over here, I get caught up in what you are all talking about and it gets later and later here. I should be asleep instead of disturbing my husband by laughing out loud at some of the banter going on. I’ve never been on a forum before, don’t do Facebook or anything. I just love the support and humour here.

Yep Switzerland there’s no limit to my talents! Don’t have to mentally translate ‘eggnishner’ or ’emma chiset’ anymore lol 🙂

Thanks cherrianne. If apps are involved, I will definitely have to make sure it is compatible with my windows phone ad there aren’t as many apps for that as there are for android/apple. The bit that most interested me was the morning alarm vibration because I just hate the sound of alarms (I’m so lazy!) so maybe I can get something much cheaper that just does that.

Don’t be sorry barby, it just proves its a good idea when it comes from two independent sources!

Thanks for posting that keje, it is a really interesting article. I’ve passed it on to a few others in my family who are diabetic but not convinced by the BSD.

Following on from the discussion on the other thread too, if we put together a short list of two or three threads that we want to be sticky, we can pass them on to the team through the contact us link and I’m sure they would make them sticky for us.

Don’t worry Barby. There are many on here not yet at the 8-week point but who will soon get there. We’re all in this together and support each other as much as we can.

I’m a golden (should that be silver?) oldie in more ways than one and have just completed 16 weeks. If you check out that thread you’ll see my progress.

Judith. I’ll email you later.

Hi tree-peony

I’ve managed to avoid diabetes meds but just prior to starting this they were hinting at Metformin. I politely told them I was trying this😃

Well done on reducing your meds. Hopefully you’ll be able to cut down further or even come off them!

You tend to find that the sweeter the fruit the more carbs (its obvious really!) so berries are best but pears and apples are in the mid range so can be used conservatively (depends on if you are actively counting carbs) but the very sweet fruits like mango and pineapple, although delicious, are a bit of a no-no. As are bananas. Vegetables in general are just a much better way to get the same nutrients and fibre. Avoid the starchy ones like parsnips and other below ground veg like carrots will have slightly more carbs than those grown above ground like leafy greens.

Grapes are really bad I’m afraid, but I guess it depends if you’re diabetic! I can tolerate the odd fresh apricot and fig. Stick to berries and you should be fine. You need to be a bit careful about roasting veg as it caramelises the carbs which them worse for you 🙁

Thirded!

LOL Judith, I was in the health food shop the other day, one of the shop assistants was calling the owner from out the back and muttering to me “where is he?”, the lady next to me started laughing and explained that she’d just read the label on the vanilla halva as Valhalla! So the shop assistant said it must have been made by Vikings, I quipped that the man out the back wasn’t answering because he was mending his horned helmet. The poor man appeared and couldn’t understand why we all started laughing! Wonder if his name was Bluetooth? 🙂

If it helps, I’ve just finished 16 weeks on this, losing 45 pounds and stabilising my blood sugars at normal levels from type 2 diabetic levels

Judith – I’m happy to add to the carb info along with Cherrianne and Penny (and anyone else). Do you imagine a thread just for info on carbs, how many, what kind, etc. Or would it be a more general nutrition thread with info about fat and protein as well. I’m imagining short posts with snippets of info?

Hello veterans. I posted a suggestion this morning for a sticky thread for newbies. I had no idea you were already working on something similar, I had never looked at this thread as you are all so far advanced on the journey compared with me. If I’d known, I wouldn’t have posted.

I’ve only found this thread now because NewLife kindly seconded my suggestion, so I looked to see how long she had been doing this and was interested in her great progress, then found this.

So I wanted to apologise to you all here for”jumping the gun” and look forward to reading your threads when you’ve had a chance to collate everything. Thanks for all the help. Barb.

Hi

There was a book published years ago – ‘Pure white and deadly’ all about sugar.

What’s making me angry at the moment is how supermarkets are selling meat and poultry products that include sugar. Sliced cooked meat, with added sugar. Roast chicken (whole or portions) cooked in a sugar marinade! How any of us, in a hurry, would just grab a cooked chicken portion without checking the label? Even the rotisserie chickens you can buy in supermarkets are cooked in a sugar marinade😱

I contacted one supplier who said sugar was added to improve flavour😳 But food was not cooked in sugar. I sent her photos of labels stating that it was. She said her info was from the nutritionists and she couldn’t comment further😱

When I get a moment I’ll pick this up again.

Thank you, my husband is doing the paleo diet and I’m noticing a lot of similarity between the 2 diets, just hoping I can stick this out 🙂

Hi everyone, Some great weight loss figures on this weigh in thread. Well done. It works! It works! It works!

Eureka, I’m so pleased you said ‘as if’ to the joey burger recipes……..I would never partake of the National Emblem!(lol) It’s nice to hear you feel happy these days…….life certainly throws us some curve balls.

Hi

General guidance for veg is eat those grown above ground but avoid/restrict those grown below ground

Roasted veg are ok.

Fruit: berries are best (strawberries are lowest in carbs). Ones to definitely avoid are tropical fruits. I’m diabetic and most fruits spike my sugar levels so tend not to eat any. Someone else will be along who does eat fruit and can help more.

Thanks Judith x

Yaaaayyyy Alan. Looking forward to reading your progress.

Great results 😃

Well done to you! I’m on a very similar trajectory to yourself, except I started at 120kg thanks to Gliclizide! I’m at 9 weeks now and intending to keep going for as long as it takes 🙂 I’m still taking 80mg of Glic a day and 100mg of Sitagliptin (I got lactic acidocis from Metformin) but my levels at the moment are fab and I’ve come down from 240mg Glic and Lyxumia injectibles, so I’m thrilled too! I’ve low carbed since being diagnosed 4 years ago, but the restricted calorie thing seems to really work!

Another 2 pounds off, making a total of 45 pounds.

Waves goodbye to the 13s and looks forward to seeing the 11s in the not too distant future.

Hi everyone and welcome to the new veterans.

Now finished 16 weeks – full info on a new thread. But this week another 2 pounds off, total of 45 pounds. Fasting BG originally 10.9, today 4.4 – seems to have stabilised under 5 but prior to BSD struggled to get it under 7 with Dawn phenomenon.

Lynne, I’ll do my initial write up on word and email it to you for your thoughts. I’ll also email to Bill for the same reason. 🙂

Seconded!

hash, that is brilliant 🙂

Hi Tallyhoo and congratulations 🙂

I’ll admit to being scared of blips and my ability to get back on the horse. So helpful to read about someone actually doing it!

Hi lynne, what about info on blood sugars? Dawn phenomenon. Rise in fbs so many weeks in which resolves itself?
I’m out almost all day today but will start on it tonight. 🙂

Hurray! This morning I lost another pound putting me at a 2 stone 10lbs loss. For the first time in 22 years my weight starts with 8 stones! 8st 13 lbs to be precise! I got on the scales twice for the thrill of those numbers.

I’m meeting up with my cousin and her family for lunch today, but have absolutely no worries about what I eat as there is always something suitable on any menu. Not how I felt in the beginning! 🙂

Judith, happy to – what would you like me to write up?

I’m only just starting and have loads of questions, like lots of you. I’ve spent ages reading really helpful posts and gleaning information, and have posted some questions and got really helpful replies. .Now I’m trying to make a shopping list of useful ingredients for my new regime. I have just found out about chick pea flour being same as gram or besan flour, I’ve never used it before.

I just wondered if there could be a sticky post that would remain at top of topics – on lines of Information for newbies? Then we wouldn’t all be asking the same questions again from the very patient longer term members, and there would be one place we’d find basic information we all need to gradually learn. The forum will hopefully grow as more people hear about this way of life. I have almost finished the book, but still had questions. We could also mention places to buy some of the more unusual hard to find ingredients.

I don’t mean to be pushy, it;s a great forum and I love how friendly and supportive every one is. In fact I was moved to tears when reading Bill’s posts. Just wondered what you all thought, and if you liked the idea, would be possible for the Administrators to put in place?

Well that’s a positive step forwards Karra! Just need to get the scales moving!! My scales haven’t moved in 10 days! Getting really frustrated now, I even changed the batteries in my scales! How can a person not loose weight on 30g carb, 800-900 cals high fast and in ketosis? I am that exception to the book 🙁
Keep me posted x

Janet my fingers are crossed for you and angela 🙂

Lucia,

It’s raining it’s pouring
Bill should be snoring,
He should ditch the paint and toss the brush
And do it in the morning

Xxxx

Hi all,
Found this a very interesting read about the history of fat/sugar in the scientific community and how the low fat advice was implemented. It makes you feel quite angry, the poor advice we’ve been given over years. But onwards and weight downwards, very glad I discovered bsd when I did, saving years of low fat repeated weight loss attempts!

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin

Hi Bill, it was you I was thinking of re cholesterol tests. Mine has been high since developing hashimotos, it’s something diabetics and hypothyroids have in common. I think my GP was a little concerned /interested to see what it is now I am eating full fats. I’m hoping it will be as good as my FBS result. A 2011 group of readings varying between 4.9 and 8 is not as good as recent 3.8. God only knows what my fbs was in 2016, I. Really regret not having that test done before starting.

Bill, if you, cherrieanne or lynne could write up about blood sugars I would be happy to trawl through the forums to collate all the other information and start a new thread titled ‘useful information for new starters’. What do you all think? Cherrieanne, penny and janet1973 all know more about carbs than me. Cherrieanne also has a good understanding of technology – I’m thinking those fit bits. I could just copy and paste the fit bit info of course! When we are satisfied we could ask the team to make it ‘stick’, then it shouldn’t cost ££££ s

Thanks for all the great ideas. I must get that Lidl yoghurt, I’ve heard others recommend it too.

Love the frozen cherries idea, they didn’t have any at our local Tescos so will try further afield. Likewise the sultanas.

Matrika, the savoury idea does not appeal! (yet) but I’ll try the cinammon, thanks. I must persevere ad try and love yoghurt without loads of sweetened fruit compote.

There is a recipe for baked rhubarb with orange zest added to yoghurt in the book (which I started reading today). I love rhubarb so will try that.

Also I could add a dollop to a veggie curry or bolognaise.

Tallyhoo I’m jumping up and down with joy for you! Amazing results for you and hubby! Your doctor sees you ss being a reversed diabetes person. Glorious! Another GP who will probably advise other patients to follow this diet and become medication free!

As for your Easter blip – experience IS the best teacher! You really know the dangers now and although you may have an occasional festive nibble it will remain just a nibble!

I totally agree with you about the confidence boost! 🙂

And a big welcome to the veterans club! 🙂

Well done Tallyhoo – that must be a great confidence boost for you especially going to the doctors and getting an unexpected bonus of being able to stop the drugs.

Today I’ve been on the BSD for 16 weeks.

Starting on 19th December I weighed 16 stone and my waist was 49″. Fasting BG 10.9 and BMI 40.9
On 23/12/15 my measurements were 50/46/54.5

After 8 weeks (13/2/16) weight 14 stone 1 pound, measurements 46/41/51. Fasting BG 5.3 and BMI 36

Today, after 16 weeks, weight 12 stone 11 pounds, measurements 43/38/48. Fasting BG 4.4 and BMI 32.7.

Today’s weight means I have lost 20% of my starting weight.

At 5’2″ I’ve still lots more weight to lose (2 to 2.5 stone) do am staying on the 800 calories for a while yet.

Hi all……….I completed the 8 weeks on Easter Monday and the goal I had set myself was to lost 2 stone in that 8 weeks – start weight was 14 st 12.6lbs. I achieved exactly that the Thursday before Easter – yaay! Except I ‘relaxed’ my diet for the first time – my only cheat during the whole of the 8 weeks was red wine on occasions – over Easter with our kids home and lots of eating out and home made goodies plus those wretched mini easter eggs everywhere I went!!! So weighing in the Tuesday after Easter I’d put on a whopping 8 lbs!!!! IN 4 DAYS – I swear if you’d actually weighed the food I’d eaten it wouldn’t have weighed 8 lbs – so furious with myself, livid!!!

Went straight back onto the 800 cals and it’s taken me 2 weeks to lose that again, but I have, so I’m pleased so I am proud to say that, with a wobble, I have achieved what I wanted to achieve and I have lost my 2 stone (plus 1 more lb) I can’t tell you how proud I am that I ‘got back on it’.

Went to see my doctor the other day about an unrelated matter and explained I was sometimes feeling slightly giddy (gone now) and told him how my blood sugars have reduced from 10.5 to 5.4 fasting (ish and variable) and he was interested to hear how and what I was doing. I am 58, on metformin as well as a cholesterol and blood pressure tablet – he said hmm we may have to review that and consider taking you off the medication – OMG (hate that expression but applicable to this I feel!) I was elated as this was my other massive goal – just to hear those words as a possibility was overwhelming and made it all worthwhile. I was diagnosed back in 2006 btw.

At the moment I feel no reason to change my diet, I am happy with what I am eating and don’t feel deprived and am now adjusting old receipes to fit. We have bought a spiraliser which my husband uses at every opportunity!! I can eat out ok and feel great – my husband has lost 1 stone as a result too so my advice to anyone in the early stages is keep positive and persevere, it really starts to become almost second nature and if you have a blip – don’t worry BUT just get back on it straight away – don’t wait ’till Monday’ and good luck to everyone!!
PS It is so great to see the physical change ie I need a belt for my new jeans now but mentally…………I have achieved this – myself – massive (ok with the good doctor’s help and book admittedly) but what a confidence boost

Starting today and wondered if there was any veg I shouldn’t have on the plan? I’m not a big bean lover I prefer my veg, also is it fine roasted? Is there any fruit other then berries I can have ie apples, grapes, kiwi as again not a lover of berries, all help and suggestions much appreciated

Morning, I agree that the forum structure could be much improved now, but not knowing what platform it’s built on, I don’t know how much work that would be and website work = £’s
Judith I was another who saw my cholesterol readings drop into normal range after my blood tests 4 weeks in.
I think it’s great by the way that people are thinking about how well the site is working rather than just using it as a place to chat. That is a major difference from 99% of them.

I like the idea of a FAQ section as there is a lot of very detailed and comprehensive knowledge on the site that is getting lost. When I started in February I could remember easily and quickly find the posts on topics and when responding to someone asking about a topic – direct then to the exact topic and person who wrote it. I really struggle to find things now and find myself rewriting very similar info on topics two or three times as (not surprisingly) many people have similar concerns, worries and issues that they want to ask especially when they start.
Exactly how we extract the info and set it up is another topic! We could all suggest topics – eg ‘Has anyone experience of using Shakes?; ‘How many carbs should I have per day?’; ‘What are ketostix?’ as a couple of ideas! ‘ This would an ideal subject for a chat room 🙂 :-)!