Anyone else stopped taking meds without seeing nurse or doc ? ?????🤔🤔🤔
BS gone down I’m getting around 6.7 fasting and 7.1 to 7.8 two hours after meals so don’t think I’m in any danger.

Strangely I found a nurses chart from five years ago with ave bs reading of 6.4 now if she had put me on this diet at the time ……..

Instead don’t drink eat healthy exercise nothing specific no diet plan just lots info to baffle n confuse

Welcome on board Fluff and good luck with the journey. There are a few veggies on the forums, myself included, and yes – the diet does take a bit of adjusting especially of you don’t have eggs.
I look forward to your posts and good ideas.

Hi,
I am two days in to this plan now. Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who posts on the forum for the inspiration to start it. I have read and read lots of posts to motivate myself and so I thought I should put myself out there too! I met my lovely partner last summer weighing 126 pounds and have managed to put on just over 2 stones (28 pounds) in the intervening months. This due to being so happy and eating lots of cake and chocolate and cooking lots of lovely meals with him so not all bad! However, most of this weight is around my stomach and waist and I have been feeling really yuk about it and how I crave food all the time and my clothes don’t fit me. Having read the book I feel really buoyed on by the health benefits of me losing the weight and also to get my head back from feeling forgetful and foggy – hopefully!. I am nearly 49. I am about 169cm and on Monday morning I weighed 157 pounds. There, it is now in black and white! I am vegetarian but I don’t eat eggs so I am having to adapt the diet as much as I can and also use Myfitnesspal app to check my calories. I thought I would try and post what I am eating in case it helps any other vegetarians with ideas etc as that is what I find really useful about the forums. I now have a family of 7 (myself, my partner and 5 kids) so I have to cook for them as well as myself. Let’s just say temptation is all around…….

Monday – Porridge made with water and splash of soya milk
Big salad with carrots, cucumber etc.. and a big tablespoon of hummus

Tuesday – Stewed blueberries (just with a bit of boiling water – no sugar) and dollop of Total Fage Natural Yoghurt
Homemade squash and chickpea curry with a spoon of yoghurt
Big plate of steamed broccolli, spinach and asparagus (cooked with olive oil in oven) and Tamari sauce

So far I am not missing chocolate or cake as I am in determined mode lol but only day 3…..
I drink loads of green tea and water too.
Hugs to everyone on these forums and to anyone reading preparing to start XXX Fluff XXX

Beverley thanks for sharing your story, I think lots of people will hear echoes in the earlier part of it.
The fact that you have already successfully changed your food intake in the past will give you a great foundation to success on this new way of life (I don’t like calling it a diet, that’s only a small part of what has become a massive lifestyle change for me)
Apart from the obvious benefits to you and your other half, you now have all the tools at hand to educate your children and grandkids into a way of life that will never include diabetes!
I hear you about the sweet tooth problems, but, if you can do without sugar for a week, you will find that, as with the grains, you won’t crave for it any more and more than that, after a few weeks, you won’t even think of sweet things. I was talked into trying something sweet at Easter and, although I knew it had a taste, in my mind I couldn’t associate it with sugar. It wasn’t sweet, it was just a taste.
Best of luck for the next few weeks, I’ll watch your posts with interest.

I don’t think that exists anywhere to be honest.
If it did I suspect it would save a fortune on weekly shopping bills.
Of course, if you have the IT skills to do it…….. 😉

Hi Jilly,
they’re not very sweet, but you can use coconut water (more cals) and you will get used to it 🙂
I use ginger, raw choc or cinnamon to make them more interesting. Turmeric wasn’t the best!
I don’t like kale either but prefer it in smoothies to cooked.

4 weeks in, eating fabulous food, lost 1stone 2lb so far and getting the ” have you lost weight” comments from people now which is always lovely. Yes I feel hungry at times, usually around 3.30pm, a jar of 30g mixed nuts helps stem the cravings until dinner. I have made curries from scratch, husband enjoying the variety of food but he has carbs with his and my Nurtribullet has been a great investment.
For over a year now I have been suffering from cronic ankle/foot pain . After months of investigations a benign tumour was found and removed last August. Since then my foot has been in agony, unable to walk any distance, pain kept me awake at night, painkillers taken by the hour, unable to shop for goodness sake and my life impacted significantly, it was pretty miserable. Numerous scans , blood tests etc could not determine the cause of the ongoing cronic pain. On a scale of 1-10 I would wake up at a 7 and it would move to 9 by the evening. Now for the positive bit! One week into the diet and the pain was improving, 3 weeks in and it is almost unnoticable. I am walking without a limp or a stick, I am walking the dog again, I am able to walk up stairs without going one at a time ,it is unbelievable.
I had checks for arthritis, gout etc and I wonder if it was a gluten intolerance effecting my joints?
Anyone else have any long term pain reduced by this diet?

Christine, you need to reproduce this in that thread about benefits of the diet that aren’t weight related 😉
Anyhow, you’re as young as you feel 😀

I have been low carb (but not calorie restricted) since Jan and lost 8kgs. I then began following the Fast 800 two weeks ago and have lost a further 2.5kgs – happy days 🙂
This week, for the first time, I have begun to feel hungry. It has coincided with ‘that time of the month’ and I know our bodies use between 100 and 300 calories more per day in the three days leading up. I have ended up eating a little more, but making sure it is something appropriate such as two scrambled eggs, rather the the bloody great tub of ice-cream and full packet of biscuits that I actually want!
I was just wondering how anyone else is dealing with this monthly ritual. Are you going for resolve and battling through it undeterred or are you relenting and eating a little more?
I also noticed, before I decided to relent and eat a little more, that I was no longer in ketosis. Does anyone know if this can be a side effect of hormones at this time? It’s so frustrating, losing weight is hard enough without a monthly battle with your own body!
Thanks x

Don’t know if correct
Didn’t see nurse or doc
Stopped all pills
Taking readings daily
Now fasting down to 7.1 from nine
Don’t know if that’s good or to go back on pills
Feel great lost 8 pound first week now into second
Opinion welcome
Alan

Hi Saelaine,
That sounds about right to me, and pretty much where my average daily totals are ( using a different app).
Sometimes my protein and fat swap places lol but it all works out by the end of the week. 🙂
Have you started the BSD yet, and if so how are you doing on it?

Hi Lucia
Youngster! Thank you, I’ve never looked my age, ( I got a good combination of genes from both parents) however I’ve never been told I’m a youngster at my age (68) on the 12 of this month.
What made you think I was a youngster? Well pleased though I have to say
Christine, the youngster! 🎉🎈

Hi stringbreaker
I’m still catching up after the hols, so sorry if this is late, I will keep thinking about you on your various travels, I found if I ate ANY carbs while on the holiday, the day after I struggled, so it might be a good idea to limit them if you can while visiting carb eaters, you could always eat everything on your plate and just a tiny bit of the carbs, so as not to appear ungrateful, you could always say you are stuffed and complement them on the food you have eaten!
Good luck
Christine

I had LASIK surgery twenty years ago to correct my eyesight. I was awake (with anaesthetic drops in my eyes and my eyes held open) while they cut my corneas. No pain, but so scary! And a nasty burning smell from the laser on my eye. I wonder now how I had the courage.

Welcome Dee,
Many of us know that feeling, part excitement, part wondering if it really works, part fear we will be the exception that is doesn’t work for.
It does work, you will get results, you just need to stick to the plan 🙂
Keep reading other people’s stories on here and you’ll be inspired, entertained, and amazed!
Keep posting so we can follow your journey too.

Hi rachel62
I am over the eight week mark, however the first week was awful for me, I am a sugar addict and it took me a couple of weeks or “get into the swing “of things, you will perhaps feel a little light headed or have a headache, feel cold, however you will feel better soon, and lose weight too! That is the real bonus, the steady loses are really encouraging and you just want to carry on, the other benefits are that you wake up feeling great, your body changes shape, you have more energy, need I go on? It’s a life changer, so good luck at keep posting your progress
Christine

hi christine too
Welcome to the bsd diet forum, I have found great support on the forum, everyone is very helpful when you come up against a problem, or a question, so good luck
Christine

Hi Janet 1973
I will just carry on with the diet, my next aim is to lose another half stone, giving myself small targets to reach makes it feel easier, I have some birthday vouchers, so I want to save them until I have lost a bit more then treat myself!
I am doing my own version of the diet now, so hope I can get all the factors correct, 800 calories, 50 g or less, a day, with the occasional 16 hour fast!
Christine.

Tonight’s dinner was a lasagne, using thin long slices of zucchini instead of pasta, and a carb free bechamel sauce. Tasty, and without the glugginess of a pasta one. We had it with wilted pak choi with ginger garlic, chilli and a few drops of fish sauce. The remaining lasagne will freeze nicely for other meals.

Hello all

Just starting out and wanted to get some advice on spelt. A delicious grain when eaten whole, makes really good pasta and even nice bread. I think that I know the answer to this question before I ask it, but can I eat it in any form?

Thanks

J

Hi L
don’t worry I haven’t eloped or anything, just had a few really busy days.
Loving some of the posts I’ve seen from you over the last few days.
I bet you never though when you first came onto the forums that you would be handing that kind of support and advice out after a short time.
Well done, you’re a real asset to the forums. 😀

To be honest I’d be worried if she wasn’t given the posts about new dresses etc 😉

Hi Orchid, thank you SO much for your detailed reply, that is a great help and I now know what to do, especially about breakfast. . One or two more items out of the cupboard too. I will look at Chapter 6 again. Cheers and thank you again. Tofa

Does anyone have any ideas on how I am best to manage the BSD while doing a 4 day hike? I have to carry my food so it is limiting. I am taking some dietary shakes and protein bars, fish and nuts, beef jerky, but the vegetables are planning challenging because I don’t want the weight of tins.
I am also concerned about keeping my energy levels up to the 15-20km daily hikes. I will be in week 6 when I commence the hike. I don’t mind if I don’t loose weight that week but I certainly don’t want to put any back on.

Welcome to getting healthy! I’m in my second round with many slips but I keep getting up again and I’m still losing weight. There are many inspirational threads here. Everyone has a different experience, some find it easy, some get really hungry at first, some have a plateau in week two, just keep going and you’ll get there.

Feeling emotional about beginning this visceral fat removal BSD but focusing on the future and June 27th which will be my 8 week journey end date where more plans will be made for future healthy eating. 💜

Hi Tofa,
Welcome on board. Oats are ok if unprocessed, so rolled oats or steel-cut oats are fine, porridge oats are not. Porridge oats are processed and not advisable, they are the instant ones that you add water or milk to and boil and serve within 20mins. Rolled oats need soaked overnight, they way my grandmother used to make porridge.
There is a list in MM’s book – sadly I have a Kindle version that does not give pages so I can’t direct you to a page, but it is chapter 6, about 6 pages into the chapter under the section The “M Plan”, then 3 pages on in that section, a table of ‘The M Plan – what to eat to control your weight’ and that itemises what to eat and what to avoid.
Brown rice is ok, but I don’t think red rice is as it does not have the extra fibre. Wild rice is ok. From memory — the book says occasionally eaten.
For M Plan, you can try quinoa, bulgar, buckwheat (I really like this as it is nutty and a lot of texture), whole grain barley instead of rice.
All pasta is off the menu, brown has a negligible amount of extra fibre so still too starchy.

For breakfast, I used to the muesli in the 5:2 book which used oats and oat bran along with 100ml skimmed yogurt, ground almonds, seeds and a few blueberries or rasps. I adapted that to 60ml full fat yogurt, 30g blueberries or rasps, then 3gm each or flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds and 3 almonds. I am as full with the new full fat version as I was with the older version. On the 5:2 you could add in some ground almonds to the mix if you need more.

If you go through the recipes at the back, you can pretty much use them all for the ‘5’ days and from them you can get an idea of portions.
good luck.

This is a great idea with lots of info. Best of luck to you 🍀I’ve just joined ‘n will see my doctor next week in order to get his support so will begin the 800 on Monday 2nd of May. Looking forward to getting tips ‘n advice 😀

Right not pricking my fingers for couple days now !!!
We don’t need to do it every day do we or must we ????????

Start again next week I think ,unless I feel weird etc
Thank you folks
Alan

I can definitely vouch for the fact that Hashimoto is a girl!

Nothing to forgive JackieMac!!!! 🙂

Hi tofa
I can offer an answer to your question about oats. As cereal goes, rolled oats are the best to choose, but not the ready brek type. But they have a significant quantity of carbs, more if you mix them with milk. So its a question of are you happy to have that number of carbs. Some people aim for 20g carbs a day so they wouldn’t have porridge. Others aim for 50/60 or more, or aren’t even counting carbs and so porridge would be acceptable. They are filling and enjoyable.

The other point to bear in mind, if you are concerned about your blood sugar, is that some people find porridge causes a spike while others have no effects so you could try to see what effect it has on you and make a decision from there.

Hi tofa, welcome to the forums and the BSD way of life! Have you thought of switching to full fat yoghurt with a sprinkling of seeds and berries?

If you really want porridge oats you could toast some on foil under the grill then add a few( when cold) to some full fat yoghurt with berries and seeds. It’s delicious that way and you are including the fat for the BSD diet!

Brown rice is lower GI than white but use as an ingredient rather than the basis of a meal. Personally I’m staying off carbs as I feel better without them 🙂

Praying the tumour is completely contained to that one lump, and that you have a speedy recovery from your surgery. Like the others have said, don’t stress about the diet too much, keep your sugars as controlled as you can without limiting the essential nutrients you’ll need to get through surgery and any follow up treatment.
Be prepared for possible steroid therapy as part of your treatment, and it’s potential for affecting blood sugars. Ask lots of questions from your second opinion Dr. to make sure you have as much info as possible. Sometimes it helps to write it down because the fear factor can kick in and you miss some information.
Wishing you all the best…

Hi, This is the first time I have ever joined any forum. I am absolutely new to BSD and with a low BMI, so having read the book, will start with 5:2, In the meantime have just switched to healthy foods and low carbs, which resulted in loss of 10lbs.
Still confused about oats….I recently gave up my fruit free meusli and replaced it with Porage Oats, making porridge with added oatmeal, and milled seeds with yogurt thinking cooked oats would be better.??? Are any oats considered a good breakfast, if so any particular type of jumbo oats? I could resort to seeds only for breakfast but like my oats and am likely to become disappearing woman. On the other hand its more important I am successful in gettling blood sugar level down so would follow delicious suggestion of milled seeds and blueberries if I had to….
Question 2 ….I see rice is not good, how low is the GI on wild rice, eg red carmargue rice or long grain brown rice? Can I eat regularly or occasionally?
Question 3….is brown pasta considered high GI too? Thanks . Tofa

Oh forgive me! Yes I did think you were a man! Good to know you’re a high achieving lady!

Sorry JackieMac!!! I’m a girl, by the way!!! My handle often makes people think of me as a Japanese man!! :0

Hi TFB, i’m near the end of week 13 and have upped my calories since week 8. I stick to the principles of the BSD – no starchy carbs etc and my weight is now stable. Oddly I can eat more calories and remain at a stable weight than I could before the diet! I can now eat 1400 to 1600 calories a day whereas before I was gaining weight on 1000 calories. Weird but true! At 5’4 and 8st 12lbs I don’t really want to lose any more – unless it was from my stomach – but I have a feeling that that is mostly skin.

Good luck on the rest of your BSD journey and it is so interesting to know that you were part of a 16 week study. Respect! No way could I do 16 weeks of shakes! 🙂

You boys are giving me the heebie jeebies!

Hi Barby – what Cherrianne and Bill1954 said 🙂

Hi Scater, glad things are going well. Try a teaspoon of milled flax seed on your yoghurt – works a treat for constipation! 🙂

Hi Bill, I told them I couldn’t guarantee to keep still because of sudden bursts of coughing! There’s no way I could keep still if I knew a needle was approaching my eye! They had concerns about a general and my health. They looked shocked when I said ‘well, if I die under the general I won’t feel anything so I don’t care but I can’t be awake when a needle goes in my eye’. I can’t tell you how squeamish I am about eyes 🙁

So good news I started on Saturday and I’ve barely felt hungry I fitted around being away with work. Husband much more supportive and mum also having a look at the book. I’ve lost 4lbs, stomach a bit weird at times and a bit constipated but I guess things are settling down. Happy days. Xx thanks for all your support.

I had the original vitrectomy and cataract operation under general as I had a trapped nerve in my neck at the time and couldn’t guarantee I could lie still for a couple of hours.
The other 3 ops I had under local and TBH it wasn’t a problem.
Likewise they put numbing drops into the eye prior to the injections so there is only a dull pain as it happens. It was later when the drops wore off that the irritation started.

Oh, sorry your work is so vitally important when you have so much too cope with 🙁

You will cope though, although I’ve never met you I can tell you are a strong and motivated person. I’m hoping for the best for you xx

Boomboombum that’s brilliant, I’ll remember that!!!! 🙂

Hi Bill + Hashimoto

I have a rare degenerative eye disease and feel for you both, I dread the day when an injection will become necessary, I will have to be knocked out too, don’t know how you managed that Bill, very impressed.

Hi donno, if you stick to the diet you could possibly meet that target, or at least get close, the average loss for 8 weeks is 15kg!
Keep working on it and you will be amazed!!! 🙂

Ooh sorry to hear that Bill, the thought of an injection in the eye makes me very squeamish! I had my cataract ops done under a general for that reason.
Hope you’re fine now. I’m just waking up – I know – I’ll send you an email a bit later 🙂

Wow! Amazing reading about such great weight loss xx