Are you able to post links/names of researchers/papers who have looked at the effect of blood sugar in non-diabetic children? I’m very keen to get info about how to regulate my kids’ blood sugar via their diet. Also keen to hear more about the effects too much sugar in-utero can have (not at the gestational diabetes level). I have a GP husband so I’m going to need research to get this to the table!

The half a bread roll could be causing the bloating. I hadn’t realised wheat products made me feel a bit bloated as I ate them every day so the feeling was normal. Since being on the diet, I have noticed it the few times I’ve eaten bread or pastry. Nothing drastic, but noticeable.

Too little fat does seem to be something to avoid with this diet. Most veggie meat alternatives are low fat, so you might need a little extra cheese or nuts to make up for that.

Over a stone gone now after about a week of no losses :D, it’s going slowly

Hi Judith
I ould just about manage it but it’s much easier now 🙂
Into May ! Nearly holiday time for you 😀
I still have to wait until June 9th and I so need a break ATM 🙁

Hashimoto my dear
I am tuff when it comes To name calling 😜😘
I am an old psychiatric nurse and midwife who grew up on a sheep station with four older brothers. So……..,You can call me whatever you like. Hahaha. But I like your thinking. – Positive names are always good though.
🌞✨
And Switzerland best of neutral luck to you too X. 🍀
Fatty with less boombah!!

Hi Thankyou for reading this. I am 2 weeks into the 800 diet and weight is dropping off. I am even exercising again. I was wondering however if the low carb could promote the growth of kidney stones in any way. I live remotely and my doctor does not know so I was wondering if anyone else may have any information. Thanks so much.

Sausages can be tricky – go for the bacon instead with any fat cut off. There’s the weirdest ‘recipe’ in the BSD book described as cheesy beans – yuk. If you can eat that you can probably have baked beans although I’d have thought they would be high in carbs ( just looked them up – but annoyingly it only gives their calorie value on toast ) .

I bought a ‘Carbs and Cals’ book on Amazon ( endorsed by Diabetes Uk ) which gives pictures of portion sizes of every conceivable food – and pics of what you can eat out too . I’m finding it invaluable. It’s here if anyone’s interested.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1908261153/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I’m going away for the weekend to a friend’s and I”m dreading falling off the wagon – I need an iron resolve and nerves of steel ! But she keeps chickens so eggs will be in plentiful supply – it’s just the curry she suggested tomorrow evening but I’m going to stick to chicken tandoori – no rice .

Hi barby, I had a week of not really losing anything but it seems to be over now… not really sure.

Hi janet 1973, I just ordered Jason Fung’s ‘The Obesity Code’ which should get here by Tuesday. Really looking forward to reading it as I think it help me understand nutrition more.

Healthyana, try not to beat yourself up if you do have a bad day and eat more than you intended or which wasn’t exactly healthy. I think we all do to some extent. (I *may* have had wine last night …) Just try not to let a temporary blip become more than that.

Thanks Janet, will do – looks like a really good site.

I can confirm that the recipe for creamy cauli and canelini bean soup is yummy. So can my son who enjoyed his bowlful, I was jealous of his slice of bread he had with it tho lol

I would recommend you have a look at the dietdoctor.com website. I mention it a lot here but it really has taken my knowledge and understanding to the next level. I particularly like Jason Fung’s videos on fasting and you should look under the ‘science’ tab at a critique he wrote about that new study just out on the biggest loser. There may be some answers in there about your fatigue.

I have used food to support me emotionally since childhood, probably most of us have in some way or other. The big change for me though has been not to see any slip -ups as catastrophes. Life will always chuck in events where you can’t eat the ideal way. There will always be days when you want to pull the duvet over your head and stay in bed. There will always be celebrations that demand cake. I know for a fact that Dr Mosley DOES EAT CAKE! He just doesn’t do it every day or even all that often. This is the state of mind we need to get to. That its alright to make an exception once in a blue moon and it doesn’t have to lead to a massive bender.

What I try to do now when I tempted is ask myself some questions; will it pass if I make a cup of tea or read a magazine or do something to distract myself? Do I really think eating that food will make me feel better? If I eat it, am I prepared to live with the consequences? Its fine if I am prepared to accept the consequences, that’s what grown ups do. If I am going to guilt trip myself then it simply isn’t worth it as the pleasure will be spoiled. If I do decide to eat the naughty stuff, I really enjoy it for what it is but I no longer let it spiral as I am not prepared to deal with the consequences if they are severe.

This is a period of learning – and unlearning – very deeply ingrained habits. If I went on a bender after every slip-up I have had over the last twelve weeks I would probably be two stone heavier not a stone and a half lighter! So get your wheels back on your wagon and keep your toolkit close to hand! You don’t need to be perfect, just better than before!

Hi Janet1973, great many thanks for confirming that

Hi Ziggysmum
Yes, its absolutely fine, a great cleanser/detoxifier apparently! Dr Mosley is a big fan of lemon and lime added to cold fizzy water to make it more interesting. So go for it!

Hi Judith, thanks for this, what you say always makes a lot of sense to me. I did have to giggle to myself yesterday when I got your message – I hope you got my reply – fortunately, you gave me lots of really good clues as to who you were! I don’t know anyone else who is going to Australia so I guessed you were getting giddy with your new phone! I hope you are enjoying using it. For the most part, they make life a lot easier.

At three o’clock this morning I decided the sensible thing to do would be to ring my surgery and ask for more detail about the results. Last night I watched a video on the dietdoctor.com website that said it is good for hdl (good cholesterol) to go up and the only way to make that happen is through a low carb high fat diet. Great I thought. But then it went on to say that some people on said diet also get a raise in ldl (bad cholesterol) but they don’t really understand it why yet. So not so good. Of course, the thing I didn’t know was was it my hdl or ldl?

So I rang the surgery this morning and spoke to a lovely nurse who was very supportive of my weight loss and told me exactly what I needed to know – and also said the same things as the video last night – hallelujah! So both my hdl and ldl have gone up but both are well within acceptable ranges for now. She said that the ldl one might even rectify itself over time. But in the mean time I need more ldl-reducing foods. I should admit I still don’t eat enough oily fish etc. Walnuts are also supposed to be good so a great excuse to eat more walnut cake and walnut whips! (you know I’m joking right?).

So my new mission is to find lovely foods that reduce ldl and rejoice in the knowledge that the bsd has yet another benefit – it can actually increase our good cholesterol levels!

I hope you are getting the same lovely weather we are further south? Who is going to be looking after your garden while you are down under?

I didn’t answer lisas nanny about the silicon cups, I just picked them up in tesco 🙂

Hi Christine

Thank you :)) How are you getting on?

Rachel

Hello, I am on day four of the 8 week programme, so far feeling really good.
Could anyone tell me if it is okay to have warm water with half a squeezed lemon in the morning? I seem to remember, when reading the BSD book, something about avoiding citrus fruit (of course I can’t find it for looking now).
I’m not sure if the advice may be do do with the fact that lemon water makes your body more alkaline, in any event I would like to drink a cup first thing if that is okay but certainly don’t want to wreck the good the diet is doing.
Advice appreciated, many thanks.

Hi Jackie
Latte and toast????oooh you naughty girl, but I so empathise with you, toast is my big thing too. No, Im lying, ALL carbs are my big thing, but having read your reply I dont feel too bad about the bottle of red I drank on my wedding anniversary, or the subsequent 5 sml g&t’s (I did count in the cals lol)
So glad to have helped you, albeit inadvertently :))))) let me know how you’re doing

Rachel

So TMI alert, I think I was constipated… I’ve had to go twice this morning lol. Apologies for sharing such matters but I think it may have contributed to my slower loss as well as my mood yesterday.

Today I’m feeling more normal, but I recognise that this is little to do with the diet. I’ve been clawing my way back to mental health over the last 18 months after my husbands depression almost cost us our marriage, leading to my own depression. We are both much better now, but I’m not quite 100% yet. Proud of my husband though as he has really turned his around.

I’m low on steps today, and water, but it’s only 11am. There is time to catch up. I’ll take the small one out for a walk soon and that will help a bit. I’m attempting to make cauliflower and cannellini soup from the recipes on here for lunch so hopefully that will turn out nice. I’ve also made pancake batter with coconut flour and put some in fridge and some in freezer, as an experiment to see if they still turn out ok. The recipe did say you could freeze the made pancakes but I like to have them fresh out of the pan and still warm to eat 🙂 Need to buy more chickpeas too and make more salt and vinegar ones as I think they are going to be something I can pacify myself with when the urge for junk interferes with my calm.

Todays food looks like this…

Breakfast yoghurt and strawberries

lunch soup

dinner courgetti bolognaise

Hi healthyanna,
The first step is to read the book. There’s so much information in it and it helps prepare you for the 8 weeks (or really for low carb mediterranean style lifestyle). There are helpful tips concerning cleaning out kitchen cupboards etc and stocking them with BSD friendly foods.
Then it’s a matter of following the core principles of the BSD (the diet, exercise and mindfulness meditation.) Personally I’ve found mindfulness meditation very helpful in combatting emotional eating – well worth a try if you don’t already do it.
It’s very important to be kind to yourself. Use the forums for support and if you do have a slip up try and return to the BSD (all 3 principles) as soon as you can. We all have slip ups but it’s how we deal with them that can make a huge difference on this journey.
There’s a quiz in the book to take to see how you’re coping with the BSD. Remember that if the fast 800 isn’t for you, there’s the 5:2 and the BSD way of life as alternatives.
I wish you the very best on your BSD journey.

Oh wow Hashimoto please please please tell me you’re in London so I can go see this practitioner….crossing fingers and ankles now!
I love this all day breakfast idea!!! Don’t like sausage coz I’m always panicky on how much cereal and carbs go into it. Do you think it would be ok doing egg, tomato, mushrooms and beans? – yummy weekend brunch idea!

I get so obsessed thinking of food and looking at food websites its kooky.

Hahaha I hear you Chocolate_ee!

Last night I chopped up some veg, added a packet of bernard matthews roast chicken cut up, threw it into a big bowl and topped it up with boiling water and half a stock cube – felt like fine dining and I was never ever a soup person. It was so delicious and under a 200 calories, didn’t know what to do with myself after because I knew I needed to eat my calorie allowance or I’d get hungry. Ended up boiling an egg and eating it just like that 🙂

Smoked Salmon and avocado with courgetti is on list of meal options for this weekend….I love this indulgent idea of smoked salmon for breakfast, reminds me of Christmas!

Don’t know how I posted my reply twice!!!

Wow, I see what you mean with cod vs salmon so I need to worry more about the calories than weight. I had to look up Fage yoghurt as I hadn’t heard of it but I think it may be also sold in Aldi here in Australia. I think Jalna and Chobani were pretty good low carb options. I think the soup is a great idea. Maybe I could do some minestrone (no pasta) or chicken soup. You have helped me so much as I have dragged the chain this week worrying about starting – more the logistics and the ‘what ifs’ I can’t stick to it.

It seems that real oats are contentious. I know that Michael Mosely said they are OK but probably not best option, I’m not great with eggs.

Hi Hashimoto, that plan sounds great. Very doable and one I would stick to. I don’t want the worry of inventive recipes and calorie counting – I know that would trip me up. Can you have a pot of yoghurt 150/200g or is it really just 2 tablespoons? And for the chicken or fish or meat, is it 100g for women? x

PS do you eat any snacks – I’m thinking they will bump up calorie count easily.

Good news about the doll, Christine – shame about the price though 🙁
Yes, I think planting the seed might light a spark in the grey matter. Sorry for the mixed metaphors!!! 🙂

Kes- well done both of you. Isn’t this the best diet ever!
Penny

Hi Ruby, I have a whole small pot of Fage total yoghurt or quarter of a pot of Aldi authentic greek yoghurt.

The fage is 190 calories a pot
The Aldi is 165 calories a quarter pot. ( the pot is big)
A few blueberries, raspberries or strawberries is not many calories.

My son eats a little gem lettuce if he gets hungry!! Plenty of bulk and very few calories.
I opt for a celery stick as they have next to no calories (12 per stick?)
you could try a few nuts or a boiled egg or a tiny piece of cheese and nibble slowly!!!

A medium egg is only 66 calories.
For the fish I go by weight, if it is salmon as it is more calorific than cod.
A typical piece of cod in a supermarket is about 98 calories.
A typical piece of supermarket salmon is 282 calories!

Smoked salmon is often a better option on this diet as you can adjust the amount more easily and it is very flavourful. Or you could cut your piece of cooked salmon in half and have it for another day!!! It is lovely with courgetti. It’s worth getting a Cuisique spiraliser when you are on this diet! 🙂

Hi Judith,
We did get her boy doll with a dummy, it was very expensive though, so she hasn’t had an outfit as well, we usually buy her an outfit and a toy of some sort.
I’m thinking of given sons mother in law the bsd book, she was very interested, and yes shame the builder wasn’t interested, maybe if I had had more time I could have got through to him? You never know, a spark might have started his little grey cells.
Christine

I picked up the Bouillon from Tescos but most supermarkets should have it . This one was the vegan one but I think there are others. I can’t tell you what a smile it put on my face – daft really . If I’d thought a week ago that I would be grinning over the prospect of a cup of watery soup I’d have thought I’d gone bonkers !

Suggestions for starters … how about smoked salmon – just looked it up – a small portion ( 50g ) is only 92 cals and zero carbs .

Hi Bumblebee, I have recurring problems with my sacroiliac joint rotating out of position. I found a good remedial sports therapy massage practitioner who can work it back into place. She also does pressure point massage to release muscles and ligaments.

If you are somewhere which serves an all day breakfast it is fairly easy to calculate the calories on the plate. I go for one egg, bacon, tomato and mushrooms or a sausage. If I do that I skip breakfast to save up some calories. 🙂

Hi Lynne,
I have found your reply, funny I didn’t get it or even a few others! I have read some of the ones I missed, will have a look through other threads when I have more time, probably Sunday now, I thought it was funny there didn’t seem to be any emails from the forum one night, I thought i had been abandoned!
I used to make cards, however I did start overtaking my life, now the craft club has taken over my life! It is a social and fund raising event though so I don’t mind so much, it’s just really hard work when there are sale events at church, then I can cancel out a couple of weeks at least while it’s being organised, then after boxing up and putting away unsold items, cashing up etc, you can imagine, I do get help from members, however the bulk of the tasks are down to me, it’s a good job David is involved with the fundraising too, he helps load and unload the car and does all the heavy lifting, thank goodness.
Christine.
Oh have just checked my post, David is my hubby!

Hi Hashimoto, that plan sounds great. Very doable and one I would stick to. I don’t want the worry of inventive recipes and calorie counting – I know that would trip me up. Can you have a pot of yoghurt 150/200g or is it really just 2 tablespoons? And for the chicken or fish or meat, is it 100g for women? x

PS do you eat any snacks – I’m thinking they will bump up calorie count easily.

Also, I still feel tired with not much energy. Surely can’t still be carb flu after a month! I am so looking forward to being energised, like many of you describe.

I used to have bad stomach pains after eating too many packets of crisps – thank goodness that has gone.

Hi Lucia,
You certainly are an inspiration, you have kept me going with your humorous posts, especially when I have been ‘down’ with my own lack of weight loss!
I’m sorry I haven’t seen your recent posts, it seems my email didn’t pick up the later posts from the forum, I have rectified that now, I don’t want to miss your posts.
Well done on reaching the eight weeks? It seems like a lot longer that you have been posting, I have lost another pound! How much do you want to lose yet?
Christine

Hi Chocolate-ee

Thanks for the welcome yeah I know what you’re saying – I found 4 stray coco pops and ate them! then thought to myself eeeuuuwww what if spiders crawled on them.

For me it was the thinking that ‘uh oh not going to eat this ever again let me just eat it now so I don’t regret not eating it when I throw it out’

I even threw a macaroon into the bag then fished it out and threw it out again and then spent a few minutes staring at it thinking – my friend brought it all the way from France…..glad to say I didn’t eat it ha ha ha

Wow I love this Marigold Bullion idea, I have trouble in the afternoon as well. Where can I find it?

My breakfasts I have down to T – I have not deviated because I don’t feel hungry or lethargic or grumpy at all, no headaches either. Protein shake with 1g of carbs per serving and 20g protein, just 103 calories + 3 slices of Sainsbury’s pastrami 36 calories + black coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil 39 calories.

From my last 2 years on LCHF diet my health and energy were at their best so I’m blending those concepts with the BSD and staying under 800 calories per day.

You are most welcome Rachel, so glad to have helped you 😀 I’ve stayed off the latte and toast this morning so you’ve helped me too 😉

Is there like a Facebook Group where BSD followers are getting together?

Hi Hashimoto,

Thank you for the warm welcome.

Thanks for the meal tip too – I’m a bit worried I wont be able to count the exact amount of calories but I’m happy not eating the carbs and great tip telling them i’m on a special diet 🙂

I have issues with my sacro iliac joint which gives me back pain so will look up on the NHS maybe the slipped disc exercises can help as well. Stretching used to help but now my tummy gets in the way of a good stretch so I cant get to where I need to be to ease the pain – one of my big motivations to get the belly fat gone!

Welcome Bumblebee – sounds like you’re doing great. Had to laugh at your eating some of the food you were chucking out ! I did exactly the same. I found myself nibbling on stray cashew nuts and stale cornflakes that had escaped from their packaging – what was I thinking ?!

I had a sneaky weigh this morning and discovered , if the scales are to be believed that I’ve lost 4 KG – but then I know from having done Lighter Life that this can fluctuate during the day so I’m not taking it too seriously .

I also discovered a great snack which really satisfied me when then hunger pangs kicked in mid afternoon yesterday ( my weak time of day ) from a tip on another board – bought some Marigold Bouillon which is negligible carbs and cals in fact I”m not even going to include it in my daily total it’s so tiny. Just holding a mug of steaming salty vegetable broth made me feel great – something to wrap my tastebuds around when the going gets tough . Worked a treat.

I still find myself obsessing about food every minute of the day but I”m hoping that will pass . I just need to stay busy.

Good luck everyone.

Welcome to the forums Bumblebee 🙂

If you are meeting up with your friend for a meal most meals are ok if you skip the carbs. Steak, chicken, fish , soup, burgers. Etc with no chips, rice, potatoes or bread.
I always explain to the waiter that I am on a special diet so I can’t have starchy carbs on my plate 🙂

I have back problems and go to a pilates for bad backs class recommended by my physio. If you look up slipped discs on the NHS site there is a short video of simple back exercises which relieve pain/discomfort and gently help with core muscle strength : )

I am trying to speed up my weight loss – I’m really checking everything I do and eat, to see if I can improve losses. I think I have a very low metabolism from being VERY sedentary for years – still am. I have lost nothing in last 2 days, but have felt bloated.

I’m now going to start weighing food more often like most of you longtimers.

For last hour have just been on MFP under My Foods, creating my standard Yogurt/berries/nuts/linseed/chia etc breakfast – weighed every item, logged it all, there were no great surprises there, at least it is quick to add every day in future.

Have done the same for my standard goats cheese salad. The only item I’m not sure about is the squirt of Hellmans mayo. It is only a few cals more than the oil and vinegar, and similar carbs.

I’m trying to find the ” best value” foods to eat – the Yogurt breakfast is first on list.

Being veggie, I need to get my balance right re carbs/protein/fat. I am trying under 50 carbs, and 40+ fat and protein.

I don’t add fat like oil or butter, just get it from yoghurt and cheese – hope that’s OK.

I like pulses, but try not to eat too many.

I have broken low carb a couple of times in the month – by having half a roll etc, but counted it in. Would that really affect weight loss considerably?

Also I get very bloated quite often. I am starting to suspect that Quorn mince does that to me – though the Linda McCartney sausages are fine. Will try the Quorn chicken style chunks next.

I wondered if I should increase my fat more?

I am drinking at least 6 large glasses water per day. I have been increasing my steps a bit, and tried the walking up stairs too (thanks for suggestion)

I do want to lose more quickly, it seems sooo slow for me. Rather disheartening.

Any suggestions gratefully received 🙂

Good morning everyone

I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone who helped me yesterday, your support and advice meant so much and pulled me back from the brink of throwing in the towel.

Thank you again,

Rachel xx

Hi All,

Also new on here and saw this thread so thought I’ll give it a go – Got the book last week, read it twice, Last weekend I threw out all the yukkies from my food cupboard and ended up eating some of it, I’m on my 4th day now doing the 800 calorie diet with real foods not shakes.

Initially I was really concerned that 800 calories wouldn’t be enough and I’d be hungry and fail. So far I’m really ok, not feeling like i’m starving, have increased energy already and feel like I can do this. A challenge today as I’m meeting a friend after work but just to make sure I have enough support I’ve told her about my eating plan and she’s really supportive.

Any tips for a new starter?

Lisas nanny you have motivated me to start counting my steps – putting on so much weight has given me this terrible back pain I never had before and I feel if I start walking a little while on the diet I can definitely get the added benefits from it.

for counting calories my phone doesnt have enough memory for a fitness app so I’ve got a small notebook that fits in my bag and write everything down. I’m really impressed how in control I feel – feels really good and having all this amazing support and great tips is fantastic!

Great to meet you all!

Bumblebee

xxx

Hi Bill i could always cut my toenails but now it is so much easier and I don’t have to wriggle to do it. I bet it is the same for most people on here who have lost weight. It’s a real bonus! : )

Perhaps not the most delicate subject but one that makes my life a little easier is the fact that I can actually bend down to cut my own toenails 😀

Thank you Fatty. I’ve thought long and hard about it and the times in my life when I’ve been the correct weight I ate a low carb diet (I didn’t know it at the time!) Reflection is an interesting process! Best wishes for your journey.

Fatty I told you you would have to change your name soon lol!!!

What about ‘few fatty clothes’ at the moment? Until it is ‘only skinny clothes for me’

Congratulations on your journey so far!! : )

Congratulations Kes and welcome to the veterans club!!! And well done on what you have both achieved! 🙂

Isn’t it great to see those stones numbers coming down? It’s a real thrill! 🙂

Hi Lostgirl, how are you doing? I don’t seem to have seen any posts from you lately and wondered how you are?

Hope all is well 🙂